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On December 21 2011 06:12 Myrmidon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2011 05:48 MrStorkie wrote:guys i'm having a serious problem. the rig that i've ordered just arrived and i'm currently trying to install windows 7 ultimate on it. I have a HDD and a SSD and i'm trying to install the OS on the SSD. At the beginning of the install screen, I've created a new partition on the SSD and formatted it.. and it says "primary" disk now. after expanding windows files (which usually takes the longest time to do), I'm getting the error 0x8007001b. Windows installation fails and I have to start from the beginning again. After google-ing for a bit, the fellow here has the exact same error that I do: http://windows7forums.com/windows-7-installation-upgrade/34795-failed-install-windows-7-error-code-0x8007001b.htmlAny ideas on how to go about it? Edit: Should I try to install windows on the HDD first? then proceed to update the firmware on the SSD, and then reinstall the OS on the SSD.. ? Sounds strange. Definitely don't install the OS on the HDD first though, since that's pointless (except to check that the OS disk is not faulty I guess). Firmware update is through bootable disk, so you could burn that and run that update first before trying the OS install again. What model SSD (and HDD) are you looking at?
crucial M4 and WD caviar green. I've tried installing the OS on the HDD. same error.
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My spider sense says that you should call microsoft customer support
Before that you could torrent a windows 7 and burn it on a disc and then try installing from there with your code.
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On December 21 2011 06:12 Nfi wrote:
Hey guys i'm thinking about getting a HD 6790 as an upgrade to my 9800GT currently using a 700W psu. Anyone got any thoughts or opinions on weather this is a good upgrade or not? Any help would be appreciated. Just looking to play some somewhat current gen games (dota 2 etc.) without going up to 70C+.
GPU's can operate just fine even up to ~90*C (they throttle/shut down over 95). The only concern should be fan noise.
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On December 21 2011 06:20 Shikyo wrote:
My spider sense says that you should call microsoft customer support
Before that you could torrent a windows 7 and burn it on a disc and then try installing from there with your code.
i dropped the win7 dvd on the road pavement 2 days ago.. it was cold i decided to keep the dvd under my jacket and put my hands in the pocket and it slipped out.. i'm suspecting it's a scratch, i'm resorting to my old vista Dvd.. hopefully this will work!!
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Can't give any advice but good luck!
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What a waste, why on earth would you just not download win7 and use your code? That's not pirating. You don't REALLY want to use vista.
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On December 21 2011 05:57 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2011 05:27 Shauni wrote:So, I finally replaced the GPU fan to a chassis fan (the one where i fastened an intel cpu fan on). Then I realized that it wasnt that fan which bothered me in terms of noise levels. It's the damned PSU fan which sounds like a vacuum cleaner. It was actually relatively silent before, but started to annoy me a lot a few months ago. It feels like it always runs on max (If the computer has been turned off, it's silent until a few minutes after boot, which seems to me as a warmth issue). I bought the Antec Sonata II about 5 years ago, it's the same 450 w power supply that came with the case. I've upgraded everything else numerous times, but never touched the PSU. In retrospect, maybe I've been lucky that it still lasts, since I've ran a lot of overclocking and numerous graphics cards (I even tried crossfire haha). A quick look at the PSU calculator tells me this: + Show Spoiler +System Type: 1 physical CPU
Motherboard: High End - Desktop
CPU Socket: Socket AM3
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 3200 MHz Deneb
Overclocked: 3800 MHz, 1.45 V
CPU Utilization (TDP): 90% TDP
RAM: 2 Sticks DDR3 SDRAM
Video Card 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 768MB
Regular SATA: 2 HDDs
Green SATA: 1 HDD
Flash SSD: 1 Drive
USB: 4 Devices
Front Bay LCD Display: Yes
Fans
Regular: 1 Fan 80mm; 1 Fan 120mm;
Keyboard and mouse: Yes
System Load: 100 %
Capacitor Aging (+ W %): 30 %
Minimum PSU Wattage: 496 Watts
Recommended Wattage: 546 Watts
While i know it calculates with margin, it might be a good idea to replace especially regarding all the noise. I tried blowing out some dust, but I don't think that's the issue here. Maybe a fan change will help here as well. What do you guys think? Yeah the sonata psu is actually pretty bad and yes it's likely it's running at full power and is dying. If I was you I'd get something like Super Flower Golden Green 550, it's silent too.
Aren't you guys forgetting something though? Is it okay to mount a PSU like that? Both of them have the fan exhaust below the PSU. Won't this make the case very hot since the Antec case uses the old mount-in-top PSU? I don't have any exhaust chassis fans either.
And why are you guys recommending such strange brand PSUs (non gaming?) which are really difficult to find here? Are they more silent or priceworthy? I thought people generally liked to recommend big brands such as OCZ, XFX or Corsair for PSU.
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On December 21 2011 06:30 Shauni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2011 05:57 Shikyo wrote:On December 21 2011 05:27 Shauni wrote:So, I finally replaced the GPU fan to a chassis fan (the one where i fastened an intel cpu fan on). Then I realized that it wasnt that fan which bothered me in terms of noise levels. It's the damned PSU fan which sounds like a vacuum cleaner. It was actually relatively silent before, but started to annoy me a lot a few months ago. It feels like it always runs on max (If the computer has been turned off, it's silent until a few minutes after boot, which seems to me as a warmth issue). I bought the Antec Sonata II about 5 years ago, it's the same 450 w power supply that came with the case. I've upgraded everything else numerous times, but never touched the PSU. In retrospect, maybe I've been lucky that it still lasts, since I've ran a lot of overclocking and numerous graphics cards (I even tried crossfire haha). A quick look at the PSU calculator tells me this: + Show Spoiler +System Type: 1 physical CPU
Motherboard: High End - Desktop
CPU Socket: Socket AM3
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 3200 MHz Deneb
Overclocked: 3800 MHz, 1.45 V
CPU Utilization (TDP): 90% TDP
RAM: 2 Sticks DDR3 SDRAM
Video Card 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 768MB
Regular SATA: 2 HDDs
Green SATA: 1 HDD
Flash SSD: 1 Drive
USB: 4 Devices
Front Bay LCD Display: Yes
Fans
Regular: 1 Fan 80mm; 1 Fan 120mm;
Keyboard and mouse: Yes
System Load: 100 %
Capacitor Aging (+ W %): 30 %
Minimum PSU Wattage: 496 Watts
Recommended Wattage: 546 Watts
While i know it calculates with margin, it might be a good idea to replace especially regarding all the noise. I tried blowing out some dust, but I don't think that's the issue here. Maybe a fan change will help here as well. What do you guys think? Yeah the sonata psu is actually pretty bad and yes it's likely it's running at full power and is dying. If I was you I'd get something like Super Flower Golden Green 550, it's silent too. Aren't you guys forgetting something though? Is it okay to mount a PSU like that? Both of them have the fan exhaust below the PSU. Won't this make the case very hot since the Antec case uses the old mount-in-top PSU? I don't have any exhaust chassis fans either. And why are you guys recommending such strange brand PSUs (non gaming?) which are really difficult to find here? Are they more silent or priceworthy? I thought people generally liked to recommend big brands such as OCZ or Corsair for PSU.
Well then you should buy a new case as well, that sounds like crap >_>
Also how is super flower golden green not a gaming PSU ? "gaming" is just marketing, usually you want to AVOID gaming stuff because it's overpriced. Some of the worst PSUs in the world are gaming PSUs. Also how is Super Flower a small brand? -_-
http://www.silentrig.com/product/1041/high-power-sr
Does this not look like a gaming computer? See what power supply it uses?
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On December 21 2011 06:29 Shikyo wrote:
What a waste, why on earth would you just not download win7 and use your code? That's not pirating. You don't REALLY want to use vista.
I'm just testing to see if it's the DVD or the DVD-ROM that is flawed. I read online somewhere that some people managed to solve this error by updating their DVD drivers. I'm 35% into expanding windows files, but that's a great advice! If this works, then i'll reinstall win7.
update: it worked!! thanks guys!! time to find me some blank DVDs!
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On December 21 2011 06:30 Shauni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2011 05:57 Shikyo wrote:On December 21 2011 05:27 Shauni wrote:So, I finally replaced the GPU fan to a chassis fan (the one where i fastened an intel cpu fan on). Then I realized that it wasnt that fan which bothered me in terms of noise levels. It's the damned PSU fan which sounds like a vacuum cleaner. It was actually relatively silent before, but started to annoy me a lot a few months ago. It feels like it always runs on max (If the computer has been turned off, it's silent until a few minutes after boot, which seems to me as a warmth issue). I bought the Antec Sonata II about 5 years ago, it's the same 450 w power supply that came with the case. I've upgraded everything else numerous times, but never touched the PSU. In retrospect, maybe I've been lucky that it still lasts, since I've ran a lot of overclocking and numerous graphics cards (I even tried crossfire haha). A quick look at the PSU calculator tells me this: + Show Spoiler +System Type: 1 physical CPU
Motherboard: High End - Desktop
CPU Socket: Socket AM3
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 3200 MHz Deneb
Overclocked: 3800 MHz, 1.45 V
CPU Utilization (TDP): 90% TDP
RAM: 2 Sticks DDR3 SDRAM
Video Card 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 768MB
Regular SATA: 2 HDDs
Green SATA: 1 HDD
Flash SSD: 1 Drive
USB: 4 Devices
Front Bay LCD Display: Yes
Fans
Regular: 1 Fan 80mm; 1 Fan 120mm;
Keyboard and mouse: Yes
System Load: 100 %
Capacitor Aging (+ W %): 30 %
Minimum PSU Wattage: 496 Watts
Recommended Wattage: 546 Watts
While i know it calculates with margin, it might be a good idea to replace especially regarding all the noise. I tried blowing out some dust, but I don't think that's the issue here. Maybe a fan change will help here as well. What do you guys think? Yeah the sonata psu is actually pretty bad and yes it's likely it's running at full power and is dying. If I was you I'd get something like Super Flower Golden Green 550, it's silent too. Aren't you guys forgetting something though? Is it okay to mount a PSU like that? Both of them have the fan exhaust below the PSU. Won't this make the case very hot since the Antec case uses the old mount-in-top PSU? I don't have any exhaust chassis fans either. And why are you guys recommending such strange brand PSUs (non gaming?) which are really difficult to find here? Are they more silent or priceworthy? I thought people generally liked to recommend big brands such as OCZ, XFX or Corsair for PSU.
Oh wait, where do you live? What's available? Brand is irrelevant, at least for how the power supply performs, is built, and holds up over time--we just care about the actual manufacturer and design they're using. OCZ, Corsair, etc. don't do any PSU manufacturing, and mostly just order stock designs from the actual PSU manufacturers. Super Flower is a reasonably large PSU OEM, and the Golden Green design is a top tier design. SF Golden Green Pro or rebranded Rosewill Capstone use good parts too.
For the power supplies with large 120-140mm fans on the long side, those are intake fans, not exhaust. If the power supply is of good quality and uses decent 105C-rated electrolytic capacitors in the secondary side, a little higher temperatures coming into the PSU aren't going to be a big deal.
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On December 21 2011 06:33 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2011 06:30 Shauni wrote:On December 21 2011 05:57 Shikyo wrote:On December 21 2011 05:27 Shauni wrote:So, I finally replaced the GPU fan to a chassis fan (the one where i fastened an intel cpu fan on). Then I realized that it wasnt that fan which bothered me in terms of noise levels. It's the damned PSU fan which sounds like a vacuum cleaner. It was actually relatively silent before, but started to annoy me a lot a few months ago. It feels like it always runs on max (If the computer has been turned off, it's silent until a few minutes after boot, which seems to me as a warmth issue). I bought the Antec Sonata II about 5 years ago, it's the same 450 w power supply that came with the case. I've upgraded everything else numerous times, but never touched the PSU. In retrospect, maybe I've been lucky that it still lasts, since I've ran a lot of overclocking and numerous graphics cards (I even tried crossfire haha). A quick look at the PSU calculator tells me this: + Show Spoiler +System Type: 1 physical CPU
Motherboard: High End - Desktop
CPU Socket: Socket AM3
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 3200 MHz Deneb
Overclocked: 3800 MHz, 1.45 V
CPU Utilization (TDP): 90% TDP
RAM: 2 Sticks DDR3 SDRAM
Video Card 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 768MB
Regular SATA: 2 HDDs
Green SATA: 1 HDD
Flash SSD: 1 Drive
USB: 4 Devices
Front Bay LCD Display: Yes
Fans
Regular: 1 Fan 80mm; 1 Fan 120mm;
Keyboard and mouse: Yes
System Load: 100 %
Capacitor Aging (+ W %): 30 %
Minimum PSU Wattage: 496 Watts
Recommended Wattage: 546 Watts
While i know it calculates with margin, it might be a good idea to replace especially regarding all the noise. I tried blowing out some dust, but I don't think that's the issue here. Maybe a fan change will help here as well. What do you guys think? Yeah the sonata psu is actually pretty bad and yes it's likely it's running at full power and is dying. If I was you I'd get something like Super Flower Golden Green 550, it's silent too. Aren't you guys forgetting something though? Is it okay to mount a PSU like that? Both of them have the fan exhaust below the PSU. Won't this make the case very hot since the Antec case uses the old mount-in-top PSU? I don't have any exhaust chassis fans either. And why are you guys recommending such strange brand PSUs (non gaming?) which are really difficult to find here? Are they more silent or priceworthy? I thought people generally liked to recommend big brands such as OCZ or Corsair for PSU. Well then you should buy a new case as well, that sounds like crap >_> Also how is super flower golden green not a gaming PSU ? "gaming" is just marketing, usually you want to AVOID gaming stuff because it's overpriced. Some of the worst PSUs in the world are gaming PSUs. Also how is Super Flower a small brand? -_-
Well um, most review sites I found were german, and the one that wasn't said something like Most of the time we focus on enthusiast and gaming power supplies here at TweakTown. Occasionally, when a product warrants it, we will cover other power supplies as well. The unit we are taking a look at from Super Flower today is one of those units that warrants taking a good look at. It is the Super Flower Golden King SF-550P14PE 550W power supply. After taking a look at the Super Flower Golden Green 800W PSU last month, we were quite interested in seeing what else they had to offer, so we had them send one over.
so I was just curious as to what was different you know?
You really didn't know that Antec design a lot of their cases with the PSU in the top of the case? Even the newly released Antec Solo II had this design I believe.
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I'm planning to purchase a cheaper SSD SanDisk 120 GB Solid State Drive for my build. Is this a reasonable SSD for gaming?
Also, It states this drive does not come with any cables. What are the cables and adapter I need to have this working on a PC? Feedback much appreciated.
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On December 21 2011 06:35 Myrmidon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2011 06:30 Shauni wrote:On December 21 2011 05:57 Shikyo wrote:On December 21 2011 05:27 Shauni wrote:So, I finally replaced the GPU fan to a chassis fan (the one where i fastened an intel cpu fan on). Then I realized that it wasnt that fan which bothered me in terms of noise levels. It's the damned PSU fan which sounds like a vacuum cleaner. It was actually relatively silent before, but started to annoy me a lot a few months ago. It feels like it always runs on max (If the computer has been turned off, it's silent until a few minutes after boot, which seems to me as a warmth issue). I bought the Antec Sonata II about 5 years ago, it's the same 450 w power supply that came with the case. I've upgraded everything else numerous times, but never touched the PSU. In retrospect, maybe I've been lucky that it still lasts, since I've ran a lot of overclocking and numerous graphics cards (I even tried crossfire haha). A quick look at the PSU calculator tells me this: + Show Spoiler +System Type: 1 physical CPU
Motherboard: High End - Desktop
CPU Socket: Socket AM3
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 3200 MHz Deneb
Overclocked: 3800 MHz, 1.45 V
CPU Utilization (TDP): 90% TDP
RAM: 2 Sticks DDR3 SDRAM
Video Card 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 768MB
Regular SATA: 2 HDDs
Green SATA: 1 HDD
Flash SSD: 1 Drive
USB: 4 Devices
Front Bay LCD Display: Yes
Fans
Regular: 1 Fan 80mm; 1 Fan 120mm;
Keyboard and mouse: Yes
System Load: 100 %
Capacitor Aging (+ W %): 30 %
Minimum PSU Wattage: 496 Watts
Recommended Wattage: 546 Watts
While i know it calculates with margin, it might be a good idea to replace especially regarding all the noise. I tried blowing out some dust, but I don't think that's the issue here. Maybe a fan change will help here as well. What do you guys think? Yeah the sonata psu is actually pretty bad and yes it's likely it's running at full power and is dying. If I was you I'd get something like Super Flower Golden Green 550, it's silent too. Aren't you guys forgetting something though? Is it okay to mount a PSU like that? Both of them have the fan exhaust below the PSU. Won't this make the case very hot since the Antec case uses the old mount-in-top PSU? I don't have any exhaust chassis fans either. And why are you guys recommending such strange brand PSUs (non gaming?) which are really difficult to find here? Are they more silent or priceworthy? I thought people generally liked to recommend big brands such as OCZ, XFX or Corsair for PSU. Oh wait, where do you live? What's available? Brand is irrelevant, at least for how the power supply performs, is built, and holds up over time--we just care about the actual manufacturer and design they're using. OCZ, Corsair, etc. don't do any PSU manufacturing, and mostly just order stock designs from the actual PSU manufacturers. Super Flower is a reasonably large PSU OEM, and the Golden Green design is a top tier design. SF Golden Green Pro or rebranded Rosewill Capstone use good parts too. For the power supplies with large 120-140mm fans on the long side, those are intake fans, not exhaust. If the power supply is of good quality and uses decent 105C-rated electrolytic capacitors in the secondary side, a little higher temperatures coming into the PSU aren't going to be a big deal.
Oh I see. So I should just go for something like this then? It's standard size and will fit my slot right?
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On December 21 2011 06:40 broz0rs wrote:I'm planning to purchase a cheaper SSD SanDisk 120 GB Solid State Drive for my build. Is this a reasonable SSD for gaming? Also, It states this drive does not come with any cables. What are the cables and adapter I need to have this working on a PC? Feedback much appreciated.
You just need a SATA data (which is provided by your motherboard or you can just purchase one for a $1) and power cable (which is provided by your power supply). An 2.5" to 3.5" adapter also or you can just tape it to your case.
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On December 21 2011 06:37 Shauni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2011 06:33 Shikyo wrote:On December 21 2011 06:30 Shauni wrote:On December 21 2011 05:57 Shikyo wrote:On December 21 2011 05:27 Shauni wrote:So, I finally replaced the GPU fan to a chassis fan (the one where i fastened an intel cpu fan on). Then I realized that it wasnt that fan which bothered me in terms of noise levels. It's the damned PSU fan which sounds like a vacuum cleaner. It was actually relatively silent before, but started to annoy me a lot a few months ago. It feels like it always runs on max (If the computer has been turned off, it's silent until a few minutes after boot, which seems to me as a warmth issue). I bought the Antec Sonata II about 5 years ago, it's the same 450 w power supply that came with the case. I've upgraded everything else numerous times, but never touched the PSU. In retrospect, maybe I've been lucky that it still lasts, since I've ran a lot of overclocking and numerous graphics cards (I even tried crossfire haha). A quick look at the PSU calculator tells me this: + Show Spoiler +System Type: 1 physical CPU
Motherboard: High End - Desktop
CPU Socket: Socket AM3
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 3200 MHz Deneb
Overclocked: 3800 MHz, 1.45 V
CPU Utilization (TDP): 90% TDP
RAM: 2 Sticks DDR3 SDRAM
Video Card 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 768MB
Regular SATA: 2 HDDs
Green SATA: 1 HDD
Flash SSD: 1 Drive
USB: 4 Devices
Front Bay LCD Display: Yes
Fans
Regular: 1 Fan 80mm; 1 Fan 120mm;
Keyboard and mouse: Yes
System Load: 100 %
Capacitor Aging (+ W %): 30 %
Minimum PSU Wattage: 496 Watts
Recommended Wattage: 546 Watts
While i know it calculates with margin, it might be a good idea to replace especially regarding all the noise. I tried blowing out some dust, but I don't think that's the issue here. Maybe a fan change will help here as well. What do you guys think? Yeah the sonata psu is actually pretty bad and yes it's likely it's running at full power and is dying. If I was you I'd get something like Super Flower Golden Green 550, it's silent too. Aren't you guys forgetting something though? Is it okay to mount a PSU like that? Both of them have the fan exhaust below the PSU. Won't this make the case very hot since the Antec case uses the old mount-in-top PSU? I don't have any exhaust chassis fans either. And why are you guys recommending such strange brand PSUs (non gaming?) which are really difficult to find here? Are they more silent or priceworthy? I thought people generally liked to recommend big brands such as OCZ or Corsair for PSU. Well then you should buy a new case as well, that sounds like crap >_> Also how is super flower golden green not a gaming PSU ? "gaming" is just marketing, usually you want to AVOID gaming stuff because it's overpriced. Some of the worst PSUs in the world are gaming PSUs. Also how is Super Flower a small brand? -_- Well um, most review sites I found were german, and the one that wasn't said something like Show nested quote +Most of the time we focus on enthusiast and gaming power supplies here at TweakTown. Occasionally, when a product warrants it, we will cover other power supplies as well. The unit we are taking a look at from Super Flower today is one of those units that warrants taking a good look at. It is the Super Flower Golden King SF-550P14PE 550W power supply. After taking a look at the Super Flower Golden Green 800W PSU last month, we were quite interested in seeing what else they had to offer, so we had them send one over. so I was just curious as to what was different you know? You really didn't know that Antec design a lot of their cases with the PSU in the top of the case? Even the newly released Antec Solo II had this design I believe.
Go with a gaming power supply then if you don't like good products(seems to be the case judging by amd processor). And antec cases aren't recommended by anyone anyway for some strange reason.
Also the one you linked was a super flower gamer PSU it seems, their gamer PSUs are terrible. It's not 80+ either it lies.
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On December 21 2011 06:41 Shauni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2011 06:35 Myrmidon wrote:On December 21 2011 06:30 Shauni wrote:On December 21 2011 05:57 Shikyo wrote:On December 21 2011 05:27 Shauni wrote:So, I finally replaced the GPU fan to a chassis fan (the one where i fastened an intel cpu fan on). Then I realized that it wasnt that fan which bothered me in terms of noise levels. It's the damned PSU fan which sounds like a vacuum cleaner. It was actually relatively silent before, but started to annoy me a lot a few months ago. It feels like it always runs on max (If the computer has been turned off, it's silent until a few minutes after boot, which seems to me as a warmth issue). I bought the Antec Sonata II about 5 years ago, it's the same 450 w power supply that came with the case. I've upgraded everything else numerous times, but never touched the PSU. In retrospect, maybe I've been lucky that it still lasts, since I've ran a lot of overclocking and numerous graphics cards (I even tried crossfire haha). A quick look at the PSU calculator tells me this: + Show Spoiler +System Type: 1 physical CPU
Motherboard: High End - Desktop
CPU Socket: Socket AM3
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 3200 MHz Deneb
Overclocked: 3800 MHz, 1.45 V
CPU Utilization (TDP): 90% TDP
RAM: 2 Sticks DDR3 SDRAM
Video Card 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 768MB
Regular SATA: 2 HDDs
Green SATA: 1 HDD
Flash SSD: 1 Drive
USB: 4 Devices
Front Bay LCD Display: Yes
Fans
Regular: 1 Fan 80mm; 1 Fan 120mm;
Keyboard and mouse: Yes
System Load: 100 %
Capacitor Aging (+ W %): 30 %
Minimum PSU Wattage: 496 Watts
Recommended Wattage: 546 Watts
While i know it calculates with margin, it might be a good idea to replace especially regarding all the noise. I tried blowing out some dust, but I don't think that's the issue here. Maybe a fan change will help here as well. What do you guys think? Yeah the sonata psu is actually pretty bad and yes it's likely it's running at full power and is dying. If I was you I'd get something like Super Flower Golden Green 550, it's silent too. Aren't you guys forgetting something though? Is it okay to mount a PSU like that? Both of them have the fan exhaust below the PSU. Won't this make the case very hot since the Antec case uses the old mount-in-top PSU? I don't have any exhaust chassis fans either. And why are you guys recommending such strange brand PSUs (non gaming?) which are really difficult to find here? Are they more silent or priceworthy? I thought people generally liked to recommend big brands such as OCZ, XFX or Corsair for PSU. Oh wait, where do you live? What's available? Brand is irrelevant, at least for how the power supply performs, is built, and holds up over time--we just care about the actual manufacturer and design they're using. OCZ, Corsair, etc. don't do any PSU manufacturing, and mostly just order stock designs from the actual PSU manufacturers. Super Flower is a reasonably large PSU OEM, and the Golden Green design is a top tier design. SF Golden Green Pro or rebranded Rosewill Capstone use good parts too. For the power supplies with large 120-140mm fans on the long side, those are intake fans, not exhaust. If the power supply is of good quality and uses decent 105C-rated electrolytic capacitors in the secondary side, a little higher temperatures coming into the PSU aren't going to be a big deal. Oh I see. So I should just go for something like this then? It's standard size and will fit my slot right?
That's a lower-end Super Flower design, labeled at way more wattage than is necessary (and isn't really helpful). For that price there's better alternatives.
If you want to get something nice, this Thermaltake Toughpower XT 575W is very good, for 659 SEK:
http://cdon.se/hemelektronik/thermaltake_toughpower_xt_575w_bronze-14188296
That's a CWT DSG.
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On December 21 2011 06:42 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2011 06:37 Shauni wrote:On December 21 2011 06:33 Shikyo wrote:On December 21 2011 06:30 Shauni wrote:On December 21 2011 05:57 Shikyo wrote:On December 21 2011 05:27 Shauni wrote:So, I finally replaced the GPU fan to a chassis fan (the one where i fastened an intel cpu fan on). Then I realized that it wasnt that fan which bothered me in terms of noise levels. It's the damned PSU fan which sounds like a vacuum cleaner. It was actually relatively silent before, but started to annoy me a lot a few months ago. It feels like it always runs on max (If the computer has been turned off, it's silent until a few minutes after boot, which seems to me as a warmth issue). I bought the Antec Sonata II about 5 years ago, it's the same 450 w power supply that came with the case. I've upgraded everything else numerous times, but never touched the PSU. In retrospect, maybe I've been lucky that it still lasts, since I've ran a lot of overclocking and numerous graphics cards (I even tried crossfire haha). A quick look at the PSU calculator tells me this: + Show Spoiler +System Type: 1 physical CPU
Motherboard: High End - Desktop
CPU Socket: Socket AM3
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 3200 MHz Deneb
Overclocked: 3800 MHz, 1.45 V
CPU Utilization (TDP): 90% TDP
RAM: 2 Sticks DDR3 SDRAM
Video Card 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 768MB
Regular SATA: 2 HDDs
Green SATA: 1 HDD
Flash SSD: 1 Drive
USB: 4 Devices
Front Bay LCD Display: Yes
Fans
Regular: 1 Fan 80mm; 1 Fan 120mm;
Keyboard and mouse: Yes
System Load: 100 %
Capacitor Aging (+ W %): 30 %
Minimum PSU Wattage: 496 Watts
Recommended Wattage: 546 Watts
While i know it calculates with margin, it might be a good idea to replace especially regarding all the noise. I tried blowing out some dust, but I don't think that's the issue here. Maybe a fan change will help here as well. What do you guys think? Yeah the sonata psu is actually pretty bad and yes it's likely it's running at full power and is dying. If I was you I'd get something like Super Flower Golden Green 550, it's silent too. Aren't you guys forgetting something though? Is it okay to mount a PSU like that? Both of them have the fan exhaust below the PSU. Won't this make the case very hot since the Antec case uses the old mount-in-top PSU? I don't have any exhaust chassis fans either. And why are you guys recommending such strange brand PSUs (non gaming?) which are really difficult to find here? Are they more silent or priceworthy? I thought people generally liked to recommend big brands such as OCZ or Corsair for PSU. Well then you should buy a new case as well, that sounds like crap >_> Also how is super flower golden green not a gaming PSU ? "gaming" is just marketing, usually you want to AVOID gaming stuff because it's overpriced. Some of the worst PSUs in the world are gaming PSUs. Also how is Super Flower a small brand? -_- Well um, most review sites I found were german, and the one that wasn't said something like Most of the time we focus on enthusiast and gaming power supplies here at TweakTown. Occasionally, when a product warrants it, we will cover other power supplies as well. The unit we are taking a look at from Super Flower today is one of those units that warrants taking a good look at. It is the Super Flower Golden King SF-550P14PE 550W power supply. After taking a look at the Super Flower Golden Green 800W PSU last month, we were quite interested in seeing what else they had to offer, so we had them send one over. so I was just curious as to what was different you know? You really didn't know that Antec design a lot of their cases with the PSU in the top of the case? Even the newly released Antec Solo II had this design I believe. Go with a gaming power supply then if you don't like good products(seems to be the case judging by amd processor). And antec cases aren't recommended by anyone anyway for some strange reason. Also the one you linked was a super flower gamer PSU it seems, their gamer PSUs are terrible. It's not 80+ either it lies.
Dude, I was asking because I couldn't find anyone selling that Golden Green PSU in my country? What the hell, why are you being such a bitch about it? And what has having AMD cpu got to do with it, haha. If you really want to know I still had an AMD San Diego CPU until not long ago, and upgraded due to problems streaming while playing. Sandy Bridge didn't exist you know... I wasn't asking you for advice about my CPU.
On December 21 2011 06:49 Myrmidon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2011 06:41 Shauni wrote:On December 21 2011 06:35 Myrmidon wrote:On December 21 2011 06:30 Shauni wrote:On December 21 2011 05:57 Shikyo wrote:On December 21 2011 05:27 Shauni wrote:So, I finally replaced the GPU fan to a chassis fan (the one where i fastened an intel cpu fan on). Then I realized that it wasnt that fan which bothered me in terms of noise levels. It's the damned PSU fan which sounds like a vacuum cleaner. It was actually relatively silent before, but started to annoy me a lot a few months ago. It feels like it always runs on max (If the computer has been turned off, it's silent until a few minutes after boot, which seems to me as a warmth issue). I bought the Antec Sonata II about 5 years ago, it's the same 450 w power supply that came with the case. I've upgraded everything else numerous times, but never touched the PSU. In retrospect, maybe I've been lucky that it still lasts, since I've ran a lot of overclocking and numerous graphics cards (I even tried crossfire haha). A quick look at the PSU calculator tells me this: + Show Spoiler +System Type: 1 physical CPU
Motherboard: High End - Desktop
CPU Socket: Socket AM3
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 3200 MHz Deneb
Overclocked: 3800 MHz, 1.45 V
CPU Utilization (TDP): 90% TDP
RAM: 2 Sticks DDR3 SDRAM
Video Card 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 768MB
Regular SATA: 2 HDDs
Green SATA: 1 HDD
Flash SSD: 1 Drive
USB: 4 Devices
Front Bay LCD Display: Yes
Fans
Regular: 1 Fan 80mm; 1 Fan 120mm;
Keyboard and mouse: Yes
System Load: 100 %
Capacitor Aging (+ W %): 30 %
Minimum PSU Wattage: 496 Watts
Recommended Wattage: 546 Watts
While i know it calculates with margin, it might be a good idea to replace especially regarding all the noise. I tried blowing out some dust, but I don't think that's the issue here. Maybe a fan change will help here as well. What do you guys think? Yeah the sonata psu is actually pretty bad and yes it's likely it's running at full power and is dying. If I was you I'd get something like Super Flower Golden Green 550, it's silent too. Aren't you guys forgetting something though? Is it okay to mount a PSU like that? Both of them have the fan exhaust below the PSU. Won't this make the case very hot since the Antec case uses the old mount-in-top PSU? I don't have any exhaust chassis fans either. And why are you guys recommending such strange brand PSUs (non gaming?) which are really difficult to find here? Are they more silent or priceworthy? I thought people generally liked to recommend big brands such as OCZ, XFX or Corsair for PSU. Oh wait, where do you live? What's available? Brand is irrelevant, at least for how the power supply performs, is built, and holds up over time--we just care about the actual manufacturer and design they're using. OCZ, Corsair, etc. don't do any PSU manufacturing, and mostly just order stock designs from the actual PSU manufacturers. Super Flower is a reasonably large PSU OEM, and the Golden Green design is a top tier design. SF Golden Green Pro or rebranded Rosewill Capstone use good parts too. For the power supplies with large 120-140mm fans on the long side, those are intake fans, not exhaust. If the power supply is of good quality and uses decent 105C-rated electrolytic capacitors in the secondary side, a little higher temperatures coming into the PSU aren't going to be a big deal. Oh I see. So I should just go for something like this then? It's standard size and will fit my slot right? That's a lower-end Super Flower design, labeled at way more wattage than is necessary (and isn't really helpful). For that price there's better alternatives. If you want to get something nice, this Thermaltake Toughpower XT 575W is very good, for 659 SEK: http://cdon.se/hemelektronik/thermaltake_toughpower_xt_575w_bronze-14188296That's a CWT DSG.
thanks, I'll get that one
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On December 21 2011 06:14 Shikyo wrote:
rest of the system please, but generally go with 6850 instead
Looking at some of the benchmarks on tomshardware the 6850 doesn't seem that much better than the 6790 is there that much difference that its worth the extra 30?
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On December 21 2011 07:21 Nfi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2011 06:14 Shikyo wrote:
rest of the system please, but generally go with 6850 instead Looking at some of the benchmarks on tomshardware the 6850 doesn't seem that much better than the 6790 is there that much difference that its worth the extra 30?
Tomshardware is pretty shit in general so I'm not sure what benchmark you're looking at but I'm pretty sure most benchmarks (xbit, anand, hwc, [h], etc) have the 6850 performing significantly better (10 or more FPS) than the 6790. The performance difference between it and the 6850 is much greater than between it and the 5770. You get a much better card for $20 more or you get a similar performing card for $20 less.
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