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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 07 2011 18:16 GMT
#15821
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136240

Just change the drive to this(yours isn't a burner) and the mobo to either a cheap H61 or the USB3 asrock H61
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Deatheus89
Profile Joined October 2011
Singapore19 Posts
December 07 2011 18:54 GMT
#15822
thanks! cant change the mobo though already bought it. quite happy with it, has usb 3 sata 3 pcie 3. basically a good upgrade
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
December 07 2011 18:55 GMT
#15823
I just say inferior drivers because they seem to have more compatibility issues with games then nvidia does. maybe not anymore? but in the past it was pretty fucking bad.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
December 07 2011 18:57 GMT
#15824
On December 08 2011 03:13 Deatheus89 wrote:
hey guys! i just got a gigabyte z68xp-ud3. But my dvd driver seems to be incompatible with the motherboard? Cause i dont see that 40 pin thing that connected my old motherboard to my dvd drive. eh issit true? haha im not sure if i lost a wire or am just too dumb to actually spot the dvd driver plug?


How old is it? If you have a really old DVD drive you might have the oldschool IDE cable instead of a SATA cable... idk even know if newer motherboards have IDE (I presume they would, I think mine does). Regardless, how would you have lost the cable, if you're reusing it?

If you can't find the pins... I think they're just white on the mobo with literally 40 pins... should say IDE right by it (at least on mine, it did). Have you checked your motherboard manual?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 07 2011 18:57 GMT
#15825
The only compatibility issue AMD has is bulldozer, pretty much. I haven't heard of any game recently that wouldn't work properly with their cards? The only one I can think of is CIV 5 that caps AMD graphics cards at like 50 FPS no matter what, but then again in that game FPS isn't too important anyway. After the latest performance drivers AMD cards just outperform Nvidia in price-performance.

If you mean crossfire drivers well, AMD crossfire scaling is better but I guess they have their crossfire patches done later. Either way talking about the past is a bit silly imo, just like Intel isn't making Pentium 4s anymore.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Deatheus89
Profile Joined October 2011
Singapore19 Posts
December 07 2011 19:02 GMT
#15826


How old is it? If you have a really old DVD drive you might have the oldschool IDE cable instead of a SATA cable... idk even know if newer motherboards have IDE (I presume they would, I think mine does). Regardless, how would you have lost the cable, if you're reusing it?

If you can't find the pins... I think they're just white on the mobo with literally 40 pins... should say IDE right by it (at least on mine, it did). Have you checked your motherboard manual?


Yea i think mine is the old school cable and my current mobo doesnt support that anymore, instead they used sata. bah looks like i got to spend more money on a up-to-date sata dvd driver....

Nah i was just getting paranoid coz i assumed that the mobo came with the IDE thing....
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
December 07 2011 19:03 GMT
#15827
On December 08 2011 04:02 Deatheus89 wrote:
Show nested quote +


How old is it? If you have a really old DVD drive you might have the oldschool IDE cable instead of a SATA cable... idk even know if newer motherboards have IDE (I presume they would, I think mine does). Regardless, how would you have lost the cable, if you're reusing it?

If you can't find the pins... I think they're just white on the mobo with literally 40 pins... should say IDE right by it (at least on mine, it did). Have you checked your motherboard manual?


Yea i think mine is the old school cable and my current mobo doesnt support that anymore, instead they used sata. bah looks like i got to spend more money on a up-to-date sata dvd driver....

Nah i was just getting paranoid coz i assumed that the mobo came with the IDE thing....


Or you could buy an IDE to SATA adapter.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
December 07 2011 19:04 GMT
#15828
On December 08 2011 04:02 Deatheus89 wrote:
Show nested quote +


How old is it? If you have a really old DVD drive you might have the oldschool IDE cable instead of a SATA cable... idk even know if newer motherboards have IDE (I presume they would, I think mine does). Regardless, how would you have lost the cable, if you're reusing it?

If you can't find the pins... I think they're just white on the mobo with literally 40 pins... should say IDE right by it (at least on mine, it did). Have you checked your motherboard manual?


Yea i think mine is the old school cable and my current mobo doesnt support that anymore, instead they used sata. bah looks like i got to spend more money on a up-to-date sata dvd driver....

Nah i was just getting paranoid coz i assumed that the mobo came with the IDE thing....


Or you could buy an IDE to SATA adapter. A quick google shows that they exist... just hopefully it's from the DVD drive side where the adapter would convert.... no time to check for you .

Although they seem to be nearly as expensive as a DVD drive itself :S.
Deatheus89
Profile Joined October 2011
Singapore19 Posts
December 07 2011 19:12 GMT
#15829
On December 08 2011 04:04 FabledIntegral wrote:


Or you could buy an IDE to SATA adapter. A quick google shows that they exist... just hopefully it's from the DVD drive side where the adapter would convert.... no time to check for you .

Although they seem to be nearly as expensive as a DVD drive itself :S.


haha thanks anyway!
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 19:29:21
December 07 2011 19:26 GMT
#15830
So I'm looking to build a good budget computer and this is what I'm thinking:

CPU: i3-2120 $138
GPU: Gigabyte 6870 $200~ (Australian prices, keep that in mind)
Mobo: MSI H61M-P23 (B3) $50
Case: Antec 300 Mid ATX $59
RAM: G.Skill DDR3-1333 4GB Kit (2x2GB) $35
PSU: Antec Strictly 550W $69
Total: $551

Is there anything I should change? I may or may not add a HDD to this, if I do it won't be a big one. I don't really need an optical drive yet so I left that out. Also, this computer will be able to run most games on 1920x1080 right? How will Battlefield 3 (and SC2 I guess) do on that resolution?
lalala
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 07 2011 19:30 GMT
#15831
BF3 will do fine, just need to use high settings and play with them to get a decent balance but it should be allright even if it's a dualcore as the hyperthreading helps at least a little.

I'd change the case though, BitFenix Shinobi is way better and only 6$ more. Antec 300 just is so meh. You don't also need 550W so see if there's a decent 380-500w PSU that's like sub-50$ and with a 80+ rating.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 07 2011 19:53 GMT
#15832
On December 08 2011 01:03 Shikyo wrote:
But but thermalright has that too o.O At least had for 2011, why wouldn't they have for future ones?


Thermalright is no where close to Noctua in postsale support.

Noctua offers a 6 year warranty - what does Thermalright offer? Oh right... their heatsinks aren't widely available and this information which should be easily available to find is somewhere hidden on their website.

Noctua offers lifetime support, you get a free mounting bracket that is universal for all their heatsinks that were basically released in the last five years. Thermalright requires you to pay for a mounting bracket that isn't even universal.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
December 07 2011 20:03 GMT
#15833
On December 08 2011 04:30 Shikyo wrote:
BF3 will do fine, just need to use high settings and play with them to get a decent balance but it should be allright even if it's a dualcore as the hyperthreading helps at least a little.

I'd change the case though, BitFenix Shinobi is way better and only 6$ more. Antec 300 just is so meh. You don't also need 550W so see if there's a decent 380-500w PSU that's like sub-50$ and with a 80+ rating.

CPU: i3-2120 $138
GPU: Gigabyte 6870 $200~ (Australian prices, keep that in mind)
Mobo: MSI H61M-P23 (B3) $50
Case: Antec 300 Mid ATX $59
RAM: G.Skill DDR3-1333 4GB Kit (2x2GB) $35
PSU: Antec Neo ECO 450W $63
Total: $545

Can't find a BitFenix Shinobi in my local store part lists, changed the PSU but it wasn't much cheaper at all. If it can run new games on high then I'm pretty content.

Anyone know anything about monitors? I think I will be getting a ASUS VE276Q. My plan is to build a good computer some time in 2012 and move the monitor to that one.
lalala
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 07 2011 20:07 GMT
#15834
1080p on a 27" is going to look like shit unless you're blind. For the price of the VE276Q, you might as well get a Dell Ultrasharp U2312HM which blows the crap out of it.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
December 07 2011 20:11 GMT
#15835
On December 08 2011 05:07 skyR wrote:
1080p on a 27" is going to look like shit unless you're blind. For the price of the VE276Q, you might as well get a Dell Ultrasharp U2312HM which blows the crap out of it.

I just looked that up and isn't an 8ms response time too slow?
lalala
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 07 2011 20:16 GMT
#15836
Advertised specs don't mean shit because there is no universal method of measurement. Response rate doesn't actually matter anymore since most of all modern monitors are already fast enough. Input lag is much more important these days and U2312HM has extremely low input lag and is well regarded as a good overall consumer monitor.
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
December 07 2011 20:53 GMT
#15837
Strictly sc2, isn't this a bit surprising?
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 21:36:29
December 07 2011 21:36 GMT
#15838
On December 08 2011 05:53 billy5000 wrote:
Strictly sc2, isn't this a bit surprising?


its 2x the price G620 vs E8400
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
December 07 2011 22:33 GMT
#15839
On December 08 2011 05:16 skyR wrote:
Advertised specs don't mean shit because there is no universal method of measurement. Response rate doesn't actually matter anymore since most of all modern monitors are already fast enough. Input lag is much more important these days and U2312HM has extremely low input lag and is well regarded as a good overall consumer monitor.

Okay so after like 5 hours of browsing the internets for a good monitor, I've landed on the BenQ XL2410T for $379.

My final build, probably will start buying the parts soon.

CPU: i3-2120 $138
GPU: Sapphire HD6870 1GB $189
Mobo: MSI H61M-P23 (B3) $50
Case: BitFenix Shinobi $65
RAM: G.Skill DDR3-1333 4GB Kit (2x2GB) $29
PSU: Silverstone Strider 500W $65
Monitor: BenQ XL2410T $379

Total: $915

The monitor will last me for a loooong time, that's the only reason I'm willing to shell out so much for it.
lalala
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
December 07 2011 22:43 GMT
#15840
I mean how similar the i3 and the g620, which is half the price, are in terms of fps. So, if the most intense thing you'll do on a budget build is to play sc2/LoL/dota2, g620 may be the better option if you were thinking about an i3. Of course, I don't know how reliable the site is..
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
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