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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
December 07 2011 06:26 GMT
#15801
On December 07 2011 15:20 Bill Murray wrote:
I might just go with whatever someone helps dhe with

i'm not buying a psu/graphics card/hard drive though
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
December 07 2011 06:27 GMT
#15802
heard that. I just saw you post right before me, and saw a similar price range.
I honestly would like to add another monitor/keyboard/mouse/etc so I can keep my old computer in case someone wants to get on Facebook while I'm playing Skyrim
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 09:49:54
December 07 2011 09:40 GMT
#15803
most of the builds recommended are pretty similar, so something core like:

i5-2400
h61 asrock/etc mobo (h67 if want usb3/sata3)
hd 6870 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131378
400-450w psu (something along the lines of antec neo eco / dirtwatts is fine) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371029
case of your choice
cheap 7200rpm hdd, size is your call
cheapest optical drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151250
cheapest ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148472

might be some cheaper shit out there tho
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
ShadowStar
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway11 Posts
December 07 2011 10:58 GMT
#15804
Thanks for the answer it was, really usefull. Thanks for your time :D
Umm, what did the big red button do again?
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 12:21:42
December 07 2011 12:20 GMT
#15805
CPU Intel Core i5 2500 (3.3 GHz) 182,90 €
Mobo Asus P8H67-V (Rev. B3) 89,80 €
Kit Dual Channel DDR3 G.Skill Ripjaws X, 2 x 4 Go, PC3-10666 , CAS 9 36,90 €
GPU Asus GeForce GTX 560 Ti DirectCU II TOP, 1 Go 214,90 €
SSD Crucial M4, 64 Go, SATA III 99,00 €
Burner DVD Samsung SH-222AL/BEBE 17,90 €
Case PC Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus Noir 73,40 €
PSU ModXStream PRO, 600 W, OCZ 59,90 €

Resolution: 1920*1080 and 1600*900
Overclocking: no

Gonna buy myself this pc before christmas. prices are from topachat.com, if u have a better site that delivers to belgium, i'm all ears but this looks like good prices. Looks like i'll be using my old HDD, ain't paying these ridiculous prices, damn flood.

Heavy gaming pc. Skyrim, sc2, bf3 and eventually coh2, d3 maybe swtor..
just want a good pc that will last my a couple years. I only game on my main screen 2nd screen if for watching movies or browsing the web.

I realize i could get a 500W PSU but that shop only has 550W minimum and i don't really like the brands. Decent brand with lowest watt is that one. Case i think is a bit expensive, hope it's worth it, but i'm open to suggestions.

This build is almost 2 months old, finnaly got the cash, no reason to change anything is there? Don't even bother suggesting a Radeon, i will not go there!

thx for your input.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
December 07 2011 12:44 GMT
#15806
Nothing much to complain about, everything will work fine. If you want to save some cash, the Zalman Z9 Plus is generally a great cheapass chassis.
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 13:11:08
December 07 2011 13:10 GMT
#15807
On December 07 2011 21:44 Womwomwom wrote:
Nothing much to complain about, everything will work fine. If you want to save some cash, the Zalman Z9 Plus is generally a great cheapass chassis.

thanks man, Zalman Z9+ looks like an amazing case and it's only 50 euros. Probly gonna get that.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 15:06:57
December 07 2011 15:05 GMT
#15808
About to press buy so I figured I'd check in one more time, one because I'm paranoid and two, because I'm wondering whether I'm going too high end with my parts. The price looks more expensive than I would expect, but I guess thats probably just the HD price and I'm fine with paying a bit more for a graphics card that might be slightly overkill.


Intel i5-2500k
AsRock Z68 Extreme3
G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2GB
Gigabyte nVIDIA GTX560TI 1GB (maybe I should get the twin frozr instead?)
Corsair 650TX V2
Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus
Cooler Master Hyper 212+
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB
Asus DVD±RW 24X


For the monitor I was thinking Dell Ultrasharp U2312HM, but I'm wondering if the U2412M is worth another £50 or 60, I'm currently using a 20" and I don't know how much bigger I can actually go without me thinking that the monitor is too big. I'll probably pick up a second one around January when I'll stop feeling bad about blowing so much money in such a short space of time

Also as I first time builder is there anything else I'll need to buy along with the actual parts, I have screwdrivers and stuff, but what about things like thermal paste?
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 15:19:11
December 07 2011 15:12 GMT
#15809
nope thermal paste will be on the cpu fan when u buy it. The one you buy separately is higher quality i think, but the stock one will work just fine. Only reason to buy thermal paste is if you remove the fan, then you need to replace the paste.

Nope you won't need anything special. just a screwdriver.

Having a few of those plastic thinggies to tie up cables is nice tho. so you can make a nice and clean interior.
something like this: http://www.genpack.com/popup.asp?image=GP-Cabel-(billede-2)-bi.jpg
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 15:30:28
December 07 2011 15:25 GMT
#15810
@Eufouria
Thermal paste is either pre-applied or comes in a small bag with the heatsink so you don't need to buy this. You could buy a anti-static wrist strap if you are paranoid about stuff like that and some zip ties or something to help make the cables look neater inside your computer (if you care about it).

You could save some money on the psu as you don't need 650 W. A decent ~500 W is more than fine. The asus dvd is usually not the cheapest so you could probably save a little there. Are there any special reason you chose that mobo? I'd probably go for something like Asrock P67 PRO3 unless you need a z68 board. Personally I'd probably get the cheapest 1333 2x4 GB ram instead of the 2x2 ripjaws (that usually aren't the cheaper ones). And if the prices are somewhat similar I would get the 560 ti twin frozr version but it's not a must.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 15:35:56
December 07 2011 15:35 GMT
#15811
@Gruff Ah ok, that's good to hear.

I'll get a Corsair CX500 instead then. I went for that mobo because someone else in the thread recommended it, but I guess since I'm going for single GPU its probably overkill.

They're the same price so I'll go for the twin frozr instead.

Thanks for your help.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 15:50:05
December 07 2011 15:43 GMT
#15812
On December 07 2011 21:20 Nizaris wrote:
CPU Intel Core i5 2500 (3.3 GHz) 182,90 €
Mobo Asus P8H67-V (Rev. B3) 89,80 €
Kit Dual Channel DDR3 G.Skill Ripjaws X, 2 x 4 Go, PC3-10666 , CAS 9 36,90 €
GPU Asus GeForce GTX 560 Ti DirectCU II TOP, 1 Go 214,90 €
SSD Crucial M4, 64 Go, SATA III 99,00 €
Burner DVD Samsung SH-222AL/BEBE 17,90 €
Case PC Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus Noir 73,40 €
PSU ModXStream PRO, 600 W, OCZ 59,90 €

Resolution: 1920*1080 and 1600*900
Overclocking: no

Gonna buy myself this pc before christmas. prices are from topachat.com, if u have a better site that delivers to belgium, i'm all ears but this looks like good prices. Looks like i'll be using my old HDD, ain't paying these ridiculous prices, damn flood.

Heavy gaming pc. Skyrim, sc2, bf3 and eventually coh2, d3 maybe swtor..
just want a good pc that will last my a couple years. I only game on my main screen 2nd screen if for watching movies or browsing the web.

I realize i could get a 500W PSU but that shop only has 550W minimum and i don't really like the brands. Decent brand with lowest watt is that one. Case i think is a bit expensive, hope it's worth it, but i'm open to suggestions.

This build is almost 2 months old, finnaly got the cash, no reason to change anything is there? Don't even bother suggesting a Radeon, i will not go there!

thx for your input.

I wouldn't go for AMD either at that specific price point but I don't think you should hate on a company like that.

That shop seems a bit overpriced. Also you definely should give overclocking some consideration as that's well within budget and benefits SC2 and Skyrim and other future games greatly and it's super easy with sandybridges.

Cooler Master cases are overpriced in Europe and not recommended in general.

Your build costs about 775€. Here's an example build from anobo.de:
http://www2.anobo.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43193&agid=1617
http://www2.anobo.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43133&agid=1601
http://www2.anobo.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=52672&agid=669
http://www2.anobo.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=52088&agid=1193
http://www2.anobo.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30069&agid=1628
http://www2.anobo.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=47362&agid=699
http://www2.anobo.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=45569&agid=707
http://www2.anobo.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=36381&agid=625


2500k with an aftermarket CPU cooler and a GTX 560 Ti in a pretty silent case for about 700€ including shipping. Imo you definitely should overclock but if you for whatever reason choose not to, just buy the i5 2500 and something like:
http://www2.anobo.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46918&agid=1603

Oh and the m4 is also cheaper there:
http://www2.anobo.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46113&agid=1145

On December 08 2011 00:05 Eufouria wrote:
About to press buy so I figured I'd check in one more time, one because I'm paranoid and two, because I'm wondering whether I'm going too high end with my parts. The price looks more expensive than I would expect, but I guess thats probably just the HD price and I'm fine with paying a bit more for a graphics card that might be slightly overkill.


Intel i5-2500k
AsRock Z68 Extreme3
G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2GB
Gigabyte nVIDIA GTX560TI 1GB (maybe I should get the twin frozr instead?)
Corsair 650TX V2
Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus
Cooler Master Hyper 212+
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB
Asus DVD±RW 24X


For the monitor I was thinking Dell Ultrasharp U2312HM, but I'm wondering if the U2412M is worth another £50 or 60, I'm currently using a 20" and I don't know how much bigger I can actually go without me thinking that the monitor is too big. I'll probably pick up a second one around January when I'll stop feeling bad about blowing so much money in such a short space of time

Also as I first time builder is there anything else I'll need to buy along with the actual parts, I have screwdrivers and stuff, but what about things like thermal paste?

http://www.aria.co.uk/Systems/Gaming Range/Gladiator/Gladiator Rage GTX Intel Core i5-2500K @ 3.30GHz DDR3 Gaming PC ?productId=47281

If you take this computer and use 2 free component changes by calling customer support to add a hyper 212 evo and change graphics to GTX 560 Ti it's going to total about 650£, is this cheaper than your config?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
December 07 2011 15:49 GMT
#15813
On December 07 2011 08:22 skyR wrote:
... You can waste money on a Noctua NH-D14 and a Seasonic Platinum or Corsair AX, or similar components - all are reasonably quiet, perform well, and carry a longer than your standard warranty.


Just wanted to say (for that poster and posterity's sake) that the Thermalright Silver Arrow performs exactly the same as the D14 (sometimes 1*C better) but is much quieter. An excellent long-term investment for those with the budget for it. You can even run it at like 600RPM for complete silence and its performance is still great.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 07 2011 15:51 GMT
#15814
And Thermalright Archon is even more quiet than silver arrow(because of better aerodynamics, it uses the same fan) and costs only 3€ more, though it's slightly worse in cooling performance. Also Thermalright macho is essentially silent as well(Thermalright good company)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
December 07 2011 15:54 GMT
#15815
The reference was to Noctua's (seemingly, or at least so far) lifetime support of free socket mounting kit upgrades.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 07 2011 16:03 GMT
#15816
But but thermalright has that too o.O At least had for 2011, why wouldn't they have for future ones?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 17:18:22
December 07 2011 17:16 GMT
#15817
On December 08 2011 00:43 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 21:20 Nizaris wrote:
CPU Intel Core i5 2500 (3.3 GHz) 182,90 €
Mobo Asus P8H67-V (Rev. B3) 89,80 €
Kit Dual Channel DDR3 G.Skill Ripjaws X, 2 x 4 Go, PC3-10666 , CAS 9 36,90 €
GPU Asus GeForce GTX 560 Ti DirectCU II TOP, 1 Go 214,90 €
SSD Crucial M4, 64 Go, SATA III 99,00 €
Burner DVD Samsung SH-222AL/BEBE 17,90 €
Case PC Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus Noir 73,40 €
PSU ModXStream PRO, 600 W, OCZ 59,90 €

Resolution: 1920*1080 and 1600*900
Overclocking: no

Gonna buy myself this pc before christmas. prices are from topachat.com, if u have a better site that delivers to belgium, i'm all ears but this looks like good prices. Looks like i'll be using my old HDD, ain't paying these ridiculous prices, damn flood.

Heavy gaming pc. Skyrim, sc2, bf3 and eventually coh2, d3 maybe swtor..
just want a good pc that will last my a couple years. I only game on my main screen 2nd screen if for watching movies or browsing the web.

I realize i could get a 500W PSU but that shop only has 550W minimum and i don't really like the brands. Decent brand with lowest watt is that one. Case i think is a bit expensive, hope it's worth it, but i'm open to suggestions.

This build is almost 2 months old, finnaly got the cash, no reason to change anything is there? Don't even bother suggesting a Radeon, i will not go there!

thx for your input.

I wouldn't go for AMD either at that specific price point but I don't think you should hate on a company like that.

That shop seems a bit overpriced. Also you definely should give overclocking some consideration as that's well within budget and benefits SC2 and Skyrim and other future games greatly and it's super easy with sandybridges.

Cooler Master cases are overpriced in Europe and not recommended in general.

Your build costs about 775€. Here's an example build from anobo.de:
http://www2.anobo.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43193&agid=1617
http://www2.anobo.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43133&agid=1601
http://www2.anobo.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=52672&agid=669
http://www2.anobo.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=52088&agid=1193
http://www2.anobo.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30069&agid=1628
http://www2.anobo.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=47362&agid=699
http://www2.anobo.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=45569&agid=707
http://www2.anobo.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=36381&agid=625


2500k with an aftermarket CPU cooler and a GTX 560 Ti in a pretty silent case for about 700€ including shipping. Imo you definitely should overclock but if you for whatever reason choose not to, just buy the i5 2500 and something like:
http://www2.anobo.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46918&agid=1603

Oh and the m4 is also cheaper there:
http://www2.anobo.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46113&agid=1145


I've had bad experience with radeon cards, that combined with inferior drivers i see no reason to buy from them. not really hating on the company, just saying i wouldn't buy their stuff.

I was under the impression overclocking seriously reduces the lifespan of your cpu ? While offering minimal gains. Was also always afraid of just burning the cpu up but now that's impossible with sandy bridges right? Guess its time to read up more about it, but i kept my previous pc 3.5y...(3ghz c2d)

I see those ASRock mobos everywhere but i've never heard of that company. Is the quality there? That's all that really matters to me; I want it to last!

thx allot man, i'll go try to play with that website but It's only in german so that could get interesting... but silent is a big thing for me so if i could squeeze some silent stuff in there it would be great.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 17:48:45
December 07 2011 17:44 GMT
#15818
Um inferior drivers? That's pretty subjective to say the least, due to the newest drivers 6870 actually clearly beats 560 and 6950 clearly beats 560 ti and 6970 clearly beats gtx 570

Asrock is asus's sister company

Overclocking reduces the lifespan of your CPU from like 15 years to like 5-8 years, you will need a new one anyway at that point. It also is incredibly rare that a CPU suddenly stops functioning.

You can incredibly safely overclock to like 4.5Ghz, the voltage will still be well below specifications. You won't fry anything if you just do it properly and don't apply a 2.0Vcore. In fact that won't even work as the PC just just wouldn't start up.


For Silence I'd suggest the Thermalright Macho heatsink, impossible to beat for silence(and performance) at the price point. Also Fractal Design Define R3 case would be good, which I think I already included anyway. Apart from that you could change the power supply to Super Flower Golden Green 450W as that's a very quiet one. Also the Twin Frozr and DirectCU II heatsinks are really nice for silence, though the Gigabyte Windforce is really quiet as well and that one's much cheaper.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
December 07 2011 18:09 GMT
#15819
So based on recommendation here, this is my build so far,

CPU - Intel i5-2400 $189http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074
GPU - Radeon HD 6870 1GB $159 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131378
PSU - Antec NEO ECO 400W $35 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371029
RAM - Team Elite 8GB (2x4) DDR3 1333 $33 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313086
Mobo - MSI P67S-C43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s $77 (after $20 rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130576
HDD - Western Digital Caviar Blue 500Gb 7200 RPM SATA 6Gbs $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769
Optical drive - Random $14 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151250
Case - Bitfenix Merc Alpha $40 https://store.bitfenix.com/chassis/bitfenix merc alpha
OS - Windows 7 HP 64 bit $100 http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Builder/dp/B004Q0PT3I

Total: $770

Fits the budget, but I feel like there's so many freaking options for parts, am I in the right ball park for cost/performance? I'm not afraid of looking stupid if I made some horrible error, lol.

Thanks!
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
Deatheus89
Profile Joined October 2011
Singapore19 Posts
December 07 2011 18:13 GMT
#15820
hey guys! i just got a gigabyte z68xp-ud3. But my dvd driver seems to be incompatible with the motherboard? Cause i dont see that 40 pin thing that connected my old motherboard to my dvd drive. eh issit true? haha im not sure if i lost a wire or am just too dumb to actually spot the dvd driver plug?
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