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Quartal
140 Posts
But seriously, Bulldozer seems to be in line with expectations, not a crash hot sandybridge killer, a bit of a let down but not a total failure (well the Phenom X6 does beat it in some things) I seriously hope that AMD can produce a competitive processor for the mainstream market before they are forced off and Intel can monopolise the entire space.. | ||
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the-bulldozer-review-amd-fx8150-tested/11 The good news is AMD has a very aggressive roadmap ahead of itself; here's hoping it will be able to execute against it. We all need AMD to succeed. We've seen what happens without a strong AMD as a competitor. We get processors that are artificially limited and severe restrictions on overclocking, particularly at the value end of the segment. We're denied choice simply because there's no other alternative. I don't believe Bulldozer is a strong enough alternative to force Intel back into an ultra competitive mode, but we absolutely need it to be that. I have faith that AMD can pull it off, but there's still a lot of progress that needs to be made. AMD can't simply rely on its GPU architecture superiority to sell APUs; it needs to ramp on the x86 side as well—more specifically, AMD needs better single threaded performance. Bulldozer didn't deliver that, and I'm worried that Piledriver alone won't be enough. But if AMD can stick to a yearly cadence and execute well with each iteration, there's hope. It's no longer a question of whether AMD will return to the days of the Athlon 64, it simply must. Otherwise you can kiss choice goodbye. | ||
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.Mystic
Canada486 Posts
I've decided to just buy a prebuilt computer for my secuirty cameras. Its not 1080p so nothing fancy but enough that it runs smooth. I have 2 builds im considering to buy. The first one is: It has the following: Nvidia Gforce 9800 GT 512 MB Graphics Card Intel Core 2 Duio 3.00 GHz Processor 2 GB Ram 500W power supply Antec case P5KPL Green Asus motherboard. 500GB Hard drive This one is about $200-$250 (negotiating atm) The next one is; tel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6300 1.86 GHz, 2M L2 Cache, LGA775 ZEROtherm CF900 775 Heatsink EVGA 650i ultra motherboard 4GB (2x2GB) Corsair DDR2 DHX PC2-6400 800MHz BFG Tech NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS OC 320MB 500GB WD Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX (warranty until 2/19/2014) Pioneer DVR-212 SATA DVD-RW Antec Basiq VP450 450W Power Supply (purchased 09/30/2011) Antec 900 Mid Tower Gaming Case Price is $300 so i am wondering which one would be a better buy. I'm only familiar with the new computer parts out today. Edit: The first comp is 3 years old. My buddy said that the second comp is much older and slower with a worse graphics card. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
they depreciate every 6 months at 0.70 Ax0.70^(2x5) | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
FX-8150: Eight cores, 3.6 GHz CPU base (3.9 GHz Turbo Core, 4.2 GHz Max Turbo), $245 suggested retail price (U.S.) FX-8120: Eight cores, 3.1 GHz CPU base (3.4 GHz Turbo Core, 4.0 GHz Max Turbo), $205 suggested retail price (U.S.) FX-6100: Six cores, 3.3 GHz CPU base (3.6 GHz Turbo Core, 3.9 GHz Max Turbo), $165 suggested retail price (U.S.) FX-4100: Four cores, 3.6 GHz CPU base (3.7 GHz Turbo Core, 3.8 GHz Max Turbo), $115 suggested retail price (U.S.) Based on what little we've seen, those prices seem to be a fantasy world. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the-bulldozer-review-amd-fx8150-tested In gaming, it's struggling to hang with Ph2. Sorry, AMD. No good. Predictions were right. Wow, I'm late with this. Shoulda been up all night. | ||
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Bambipwnsu
Canada698 Posts
On October 12 2011 23:18 JingleHell wrote: It finally happened: BD is here. Link from AMD Twitter. Based on what little we've seen, those prices seem to be a fantasy world. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the-bulldozer-review-amd-fx8150-tested In gaming, it's struggling to hang with Ph2. Sorry, AMD. No good. Predictions were right. Wow, I'm late with this. Shoulda been up all night. Don't worry you only missed a massive letdown which was followed by everyone going to bed out of dissapointment. It hurt to watch this: | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
As much as it's nice-ish to be vindicated in all the heated debates I've had with rabid AMD fanboys for the last several months, I have to ultimately conclude: Dammit. More insane Intel pricing. It's so bad that Intel's probably having a better release party for BD than AMD is... | ||
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Bambipwnsu
Canada698 Posts
On October 12 2011 23:52 JingleHell wrote: Can't watch that video. Not available in my country. As much as it's nice-ish to be vindicated in all the heated debates I've had with rabid AMD fanboys for the last several months, I have to ultimately conclude: Dammit. More insane Intel pricing. What I can't fathom is the decrease in performance in single-threaded apps and performance per clock. Like what the ... From the [H]Forums ![[image loading]](http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4585/amdfx815018.jpg) I updated the video link so hopefully you can watch. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 12 2011 15:28 Lup wrote: Hey, I'm looking to buy a new pc would someone have a look at this build i'm sure there's lots of things to be improved as I'm clueless when it comes to computers, =] my budget is only £300-400 would love to stay at low 300 if possible + Show Spoiler + I think you're cutting in the wrong places there and I really would be scared of that PSU. Probably going to cost you much more than you're planning on saving. Try this: mobo 50£: http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/motherboards/intel1155h61chipsetmotherboards/90-mxghp0-a0uayz.html cpu 58£: http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/processors/intelpentiumdualcore/bx80623g840.html graphics card 140£: http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/atiradeongraphicscards/atihd6800series/hd-687a-znfc.html ram 21£: http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/memory-pc/ddr3-pc3-10666/1333mhz/cmx4gx3m1a1333c9.html HDD 32£: http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/harddrives-internal/sata500gbto1tb/st500dm002.html DVD writer 15£: http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/opticaldrives/satadvdwriters/gh22ns70.auaa.html PSU 34£: http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/powersupplies/rs450-acaad3-uk.html case 26£: http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/cases/cases/cpc-t45ub-u01.html Totals at around 375£ and easily runs SC2 on ultra. For cutting, these are the possibilities: CPU 37£: http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/processors/intelpentiumdualcore/bx80623g530.html Graphics card 125£: http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/atiradeongraphicscards/atihd6800series/hd-685x-zndc.html Graphics card 80£: http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/atiradeongraphicscards/atihd6700series/eah6770dc2di1gd5.html Depending on what you think you need. Don't skimp on the PSU / Case, that's going to be more trouble than it's worth. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On October 12 2011 23:18 JingleHell wrote: It finally happened: BD is here. Link from AMD Twitter. Based on what little we've seen, those prices seem to be a fantasy world. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the-bulldozer-review-amd-fx8150-tested In gaming, it's struggling to hang with Ph2. Sorry, AMD. No good. Predictions were right. Wow, I'm late with this. Shoulda been up all night. They can't do much about it i mean if you're talking about scilicon used in order to make these chips intel uses quite a bit less, assuming similar cost of processing as they are both 32nm, intel pulls in cost per chip to make. Transistors: 995 million Die size: 216 mm² vs Transistors: 2 billion Die size: 315mm² They want to price it higher but know it would probably never sell so they price it near intel prices and ignore the gap. Very much like the first phenom release sell it to oems put stickers like clock speed and COREZZZZASDASDA and hope it sells enough to keep afloat before revisions. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On October 13 2011 00:43 Shikyo wrote: 115$ overclockable quadcore... but why is the performance per mhz so shitty?=/ I'm guessing an Athlon II x4 640 or something would be a better choice for an overclockable budget 4core.. Most rational people don't give a damn about an unlocked shitty CPU at a low price. And people defending BD are pretty much grasping at straws at this point to find ways it isn't shit. | ||
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Legatus Lanius
2135 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On October 13 2011 01:03 Legatus Lanius wrote: are sandforce drives really that bad? i can pick up a corsair force 3 120g for 130 bucks (australia), yea or nay good people? Well, our statistical sampling may suck, but I'd say the disproportionate number of complaints we see here tell enough of a tale. Avoid Sandforce, IMO. You get what you pay for. | ||
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Legatus Lanius
2135 Posts
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
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ThatGuy89
United Kingdom1968 Posts
CPU: i5 2300 graphics: hd 6850 is there anything else to be taken into consideration? or is it just processor and graphics | ||
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