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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 22:26:53
October 08 2011 22:25 GMT
#12701
+ Show Spoiler +


This is a video showing you PC assembly. You can decide for yourself if it really looks all that complicated. Pay close attention to the shapes of different cables, and the fact that they only really fit in the place they're supposed to go.

Between that video and this board, we've gotten a LOT of people through assembly on their first PC, along with troubleshooting anything that comes up due to inexperience.

We're really not trying to be elitists saying build it, we're trying to get you a PC with better warranty, better components, and ideal performance, all for less money than a prebuilt.
TheAppetizer
Profile Joined February 2011
United States146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 22:41:41
October 08 2011 22:39 GMT
#12702
On October 09 2011 05:38 skyR wrote:
$336:

Intel Celeron G530 @ $57
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116409



What is the difference between this processor and an i3 2100? Just the clock speed?

EDIT: Also, how would I use two screens on this computer build? Would I need to get a dedicated graphics card?
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
October 08 2011 22:42 GMT
#12703
http://www.topachat.com/pages/configomatic.php

Here you can build up a computer

You will need an i5-2400
cheapest H61 motherboard (all is compatible, so just go with the cheapest of the list)
cheapest 8gb ram
probably the MSI gtx560ti
after the case is to your likings
PSU get a corsair or antec unit
Samsung spintpoint F3 1tb for the HDD
and probably a little crucial m4 SSD
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 22:43:44
October 08 2011 22:43 GMT
#12704
On October 09 2011 07:39 TheAppetizer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 05:38 skyR wrote:
$336:

Intel Celeron G530 @ $57
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116409



What is the difference between this processor and an i3 2100? Just the clock speed?

EDIT: Also, how would I use two screens on this computer build? Would I need to get a dedicated graphics card?


Yes you will need one then.

The i3 has HT

edit : woops double post
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 22:51:04
October 08 2011 22:46 GMT
#12705
On October 09 2011 07:39 TheAppetizer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 05:38 skyR wrote:
$336:

Intel Celeron G530 @ $57
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116409



What is the difference between this processor and an i3 2100? Just the clock speed?


Celeron G530 compared to Core i3-2100:
  • Lower clock speed
  • No hyperthreading (a bigger deal on a dual core than a quad core IMHO)
  • 1MB less L3 cache
  • no AVX support
  • no Intel Quick Sync Video, InTru 3D, Clear Video HD, Wireless Display, or 3D Video
  • 100 mHz lower max integrated graphics clock speed


edit:
On October 09 2011 07:43 Rachnar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 07:39 TheAppetizer wrote:
On October 09 2011 05:38 skyR wrote:
$336:

Intel Celeron G530 @ $57
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116409



What is the difference between this processor and an i3 2100? Just the clock speed?

EDIT: Also, how would I use two screens on this computer build? Would I need to get a dedicated graphics card?


Yes you will need one then.


Sandy Bridge integrated graphics can handle two displays...with Windows 7?
http://www.intel.com/cd/products/services/emea/eng/chipsets/ec-h61/overview/468255.htm
http://www.intel.com/cd/products/services/emea/eng/chipsets/ec-h67/overview/462674.htm
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
October 08 2011 22:52 GMT
#12706
Ok my mistake, didn't know motherboard's had enough slot's for it
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
TheAppetizer
Profile Joined February 2011
United States146 Posts
October 08 2011 23:00 GMT
#12707
Would I have to get a different motherboard than this one then since it only has one VGA port? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137554&currentpage=636
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 23:02:53
October 08 2011 23:01 GMT
#12708
On October 09 2011 06:56 CaM27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 06:50 Shikyo wrote:
they're all garbage, get one from aria.co.uk or pay to build


Thanks for replying. Obviously someone that ask advices here has no experience in building a computer. Anyway which one would you recommend from this website? And yeah is it safe to ship one from UK to Belgium?

Well honestly I'd just order from hardwareversand.de. Like, let me set up a 600€ computer up for you. Also you probably aren't up to task for overclocking but if you feel like you want to, say so and I'll redo the build.

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/7135/examplebuild2.png

Doesn't include windows etc but those can be altered if necessary. Also afaik rechner zusammenbau means computer assembly but if that's wrong please tell me <.<

On October 09 2011 07:39 TheAppetizer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 05:38 skyR wrote:
$336:

Intel Celeron G530 @ $57
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116409



What is the difference between this processor and an i3 2100? Just the clock speed?

EDIT: Also, how would I use two screens on this computer build? Would I need to get a dedicated graphics card?

Clock speed, hyper threading, cache, integrated graphics and price and slow video decoding and whatever else were the numerous features they disabled
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 08 2011 23:04 GMT
#12709
Ya I overlooked the fact that VS only has one video output. You can get a Biostar: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138313 or the Asrock H61M U3S3: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236
pog0
Profile Joined June 2010
United States30 Posts
October 08 2011 23:43 GMT
#12710
On October 09 2011 04:26 Myrmidon wrote:
Yeah actually, what model Dell Optiplex is it? What does it really look like?

Many small cases will only fit half-height video cards, but few will only take a single slot video card, unless the computer already has other expansion cards already in the way. I'm not that familiar with Dell Optiplex models, but I suspect that few or none are mini-ITX, with only one expansion slot? MicroATX is the most common for desktop computers.

Just checking.


It's an Optiplex 745. It's a full tower, but the heatsink and fan and ducting is one giant piece which prohibits me to fit anything serious in there. I was originally planning to use it for myself and put a GTX 460 in it, BUT no room length wise or height wise to fit a card that beefy in there. I went budget and used the CPU from the Dell and RAM, just found a used mobo and bought a new case and PSU. I will prob upgrade to a Q6600 for OC and get some new RAM.

If she shows some real interest, I will build something a bit more gaming oriented for her. If not, oh well... I got an upgrade out of it.
Korlinni
Profile Joined April 2011
125 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 02:18:07
October 09 2011 02:16 GMT
#12711
What is your budget?

$800-$900 +/- 50

What is your resolution?

1680x1050

What are you using it for?

Gaming

What is your upgrade cycle?

2-3 years Only reason I am upgrading my computer now is because the parts are dying.

When do you plan on building it?

ASAP

Do you plan on overclocking?

Not planning on overclocking, but want the ability to.

Do you need an Operating System?

No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No

Where are you buying your parts from?

Newegg

I could use a new wireless internet adapter since I'm not able to have direct connection, if you have any recommendations for that.

Ty for reading and maybe even recommending a build.
Impossible is a word to be found only in the dictionary of fools!
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 02:36:29
October 09 2011 02:34 GMT
#12712
You can skip stuff like the hard drive, optical drive, case, etc. if you want to reuse those.

Core i5-2500k and Wintec 2 x 4GB DDR3 RAM - $253
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.747067

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus - $26
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

AsRock Z68 Pro3 - $105
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157251

Sapphire HD 6870 - $170, $150 AMIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB HDD - $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

+ Show Spoiler [SSD, optional] +
Crucial M4 64GB SSD - $107
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441

SATA cable since motherboard comes with 2 and you'd be using 3 SATA devices - $3.49
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812189204

Samsung CD / DVD-RW - $17
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233

Antec Neo Eco 520C (no power cord to wall included) - $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030

Cooler Master HAF 912 - $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

TPLink 802.11b/g/n (1x1) USB wireless adapter - $19
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704045
needsoma
Profile Joined September 2011
6 Posts
October 09 2011 04:30 GMT
#12713
XFX 450W Core Edition Single Rail ATX 12V 34A PSU

Planning to order this psu which costs 35 after rebates, but just wondering: are there any better alternatives? Planning to do a bit of overclocking. My resolution is 1600x900.

So far i have:
GTX 460 1GB
Core i5 2500k
Seagate 7200rpm 1TB
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB 1600 Mhz

Also, can someone recommend me a decent case and a motherboard? I'm leaning towards the ASRock P67 PRO3 right now. Thanks in advance!

skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 09 2011 04:32 GMT
#12714
There is no better power supply than the XFX Core Edition Pro 450 in its price range.

You should not be getting a GTX 460 for $100 when the Radeon HD6850, HD6870, and GTX 560 all outperform it and are less expensive.

The Asrock P67 Pro3 is a good choice.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
October 09 2011 06:09 GMT
#12715
I've been told by people under NDA that Bulldozer (or AMD's CPU division more like) is dead. Obviously no particular details but looking at Chinese leaks (which isn't actually a half bad source for leaks, they were 100% on the money when it came to Sandy Bridge reaching 4.7Ghz and desktop Llano performance), Bulldozer gets fucked over by the high end Phenom II 975 BE.

Downright tragic if those benchmarks are true. The fact AMD is getting close to missing the deadline by 6 months and have cut prices by like $100 on all of their SKUs should rather telling of actual performance.
Korlinni
Profile Joined April 2011
125 Posts
October 09 2011 06:14 GMT
#12716
tyvm Myrmidon. Arrives in 3 days!
Impossible is a word to be found only in the dictionary of fools!
bubO
Profile Joined August 2010
United States367 Posts
October 09 2011 07:00 GMT
#12717
Can anyone recommend me a good motherboard for a I5 2400 and a GTX 460? for my friend
Protoss...
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 09 2011 07:03 GMT
#12718
Asrock H61M U3S3
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
October 09 2011 07:19 GMT
#12719
On October 09 2011 15:09 Womwomwom wrote:
I've been told by people under NDA that Bulldozer (or AMD's CPU division more like) is dead. Obviously no particular details but looking at Chinese leaks (which isn't actually a half bad source for leaks, they were 100% on the money when it came to Sandy Bridge reaching 4.7Ghz and desktop Llano performance), Bulldozer gets fucked over by the high end Phenom II 975 BE.

Downright tragic if those benchmarks are true. The fact AMD is getting close to missing the deadline by 6 months and have cut prices by like $100 on all of their SKUs should rather telling of actual performance.


*jc denton voice* what a shame
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
October 09 2011 07:37 GMT
#12720
On October 09 2011 15:09 Womwomwom wrote:
I've been told by people under NDA that Bulldozer (or AMD's CPU division more like) is dead. Obviously no particular details but looking at Chinese leaks (which isn't actually a half bad source for leaks, they were 100% on the money when it came to Sandy Bridge reaching 4.7Ghz and desktop Llano performance), Bulldozer gets fucked over by the high end Phenom II 975 BE.

Downright tragic if those benchmarks are true. The fact AMD is getting close to missing the deadline by 6 months and have cut prices by like $100 on all of their SKUs should rather telling of actual performance.


Hasn't this already been a speculation since the whole bapco fiasco?

And I mean more so, than from previous speculations.
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