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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
September 29 2011 03:33 GMT
#12241
On September 29 2011 04:24 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 02:49 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On September 29 2011 01:43 PolSC2 wrote:
Is an 850watt bronze certified power supply be able to power two http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102918 in crossfire?

EDIT: Or a 650 gold?

EDIT 2: Also, is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130611 a decent mobo to support crossfire? I don't want to go with super cheap items.


a 650w would work with 6970s but dont crank the powertune or volt it hard coz they chew watts like mad

Btw the real question is why would you crossfire 2 6970s when the performance gain is neglicible in comparison to crossfire 6950s


i dont know why youd bother with cf in the first place even a single 6870 runs new games like deus ex 3 maxed on 1080p
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
.Mystic
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada486 Posts
September 29 2011 03:44 GMT
#12242
hey,

i'm trying to build a cheap basic computer for my store to connect to the security cameras. I'm trying to buy a prebuilt one because it should be cheaper but i can't find any so i'm thinking of building it myself.

This computer will just be to record and see the security cameras (no HD). I would like it as cheap as possible, $200-$300. This will be baught either from ncix or canadacomputers. I'm having the most difficult with figuring out which video card would be reasonable, i don't think a $80+ card is necessary?

I will be getting a 19"-20" monitor myself later, and i already have a copy of windows.
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
September 29 2011 03:47 GMT
#12243
On September 29 2011 12:33 Legatus Lanius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 04:24 Shikyo wrote:
On September 29 2011 02:49 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On September 29 2011 01:43 PolSC2 wrote:
Is an 850watt bronze certified power supply be able to power two http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102918 in crossfire?

EDIT: Or a 650 gold?

EDIT 2: Also, is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130611 a decent mobo to support crossfire? I don't want to go with super cheap items.


a 650w would work with 6970s but dont crank the powertune or volt it hard coz they chew watts like mad

Btw the real question is why would you crossfire 2 6970s when the performance gain is neglicible in comparison to crossfire 6950s


i dont know why youd bother with cf in the first place even a single 6870 runs new games like deus ex 3 maxed on 1080p

Try running BF3 maxed with that
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
September 29 2011 03:50 GMT
#12244
On September 29 2011 12:47 FinBenton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 12:33 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On September 29 2011 04:24 Shikyo wrote:
On September 29 2011 02:49 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On September 29 2011 01:43 PolSC2 wrote:
Is an 850watt bronze certified power supply be able to power two http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102918 in crossfire?

EDIT: Or a 650 gold?

EDIT 2: Also, is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130611 a decent mobo to support crossfire? I don't want to go with super cheap items.


a 650w would work with 6970s but dont crank the powertune or volt it hard coz they chew watts like mad

Btw the real question is why would you crossfire 2 6970s when the performance gain is neglicible in comparison to crossfire 6950s


i dont know why youd bother with cf in the first place even a single 6870 runs new games like deus ex 3 maxed on 1080p

Try running BF3 maxed with that


people have been playing it on ultra with a 6950/570, so its not THAT intensive

besides, it could probably handle high just fine, without all the useless bits, and look pretty much the same
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
rightstuff
Profile Joined October 2010
United States160 Posts
September 29 2011 03:59 GMT
#12245
I missed a deal on newegg.com for a GPU. However, while I was shopping around I spotted this. It's out of stock, but is this the best deal ever? Or is something amiss...?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162058

79.99 for a GTX 460
Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 04:03:29
September 29 2011 04:03 GMT
#12246
On September 29 2011 12:44 HCmystic wrote:
hey,

i'm trying to build a cheap basic computer for my store to connect to the security cameras. I'm trying to buy a prebuilt one because it should be cheaper but i can't find any so i'm thinking of building it myself.

This computer will just be to record and see the security cameras (no HD). I would like it as cheap as possible, $200-$300. This will be baught either from ncix or canadacomputers. I'm having the most difficult with figuring out which video card would be reasonable, i don't think a $80+ card is necessary?

I will be getting a 19"-20" monitor myself later, and i already have a copy of windows.


If you want to deal with MIRs and don't have on-board graphics.

GT 240 @$29.99 after MIR
http://www.ncix.ca/products/index.php?sku=62564&vpn=GT240XYAFA&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1055

HD 5450 @$19.99 after MIR
http://www.ncix.ca/products/index.php?sku=49822&vpn=AX5450 512MK3-SH&manufacture=PowerColor&promoid=1055
LoL @ NA: bambipwnsu
strikerz200
Profile Joined September 2011
58 Posts
September 29 2011 04:04 GMT
#12247
I'm getting error "display driver stopped responding" and I'm using windows 7 64bit
This didnt happen to me, but yesterday i installed some higher software for my card, which prob messed up something...?

I deleted everything from control panel as well as from NVIDIA folder in my C:
and reinstalled my previous version but i'm still getting this problem.

any ideas? my comptuer just freeze up and never recovers. i have to press restart whenever this happens
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
September 29 2011 04:06 GMT
#12248
"Pros: Price w/rebate.

Cons: The card in first slot burst into flames setting off my smoke detector."

haha
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
rightstuff
Profile Joined October 2010
United States160 Posts
September 29 2011 04:12 GMT
#12249
On September 29 2011 13:06 Legatus Lanius wrote:
"Pros: Price w/rebate.

Cons: The card in first slot burst into flames setting off my smoke detector."

haha


LOL i didn't even see that! Yea, no wonder he was one of the people giving it a 1 star rating.
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
September 29 2011 04:15 GMT
#12250
its only 80 bob though. are you a GAMBLING MAN?
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
rightstuff
Profile Joined October 2010
United States160 Posts
September 29 2011 04:20 GMT
#12251
80 bucks for a 460 with a SLIGHT (?) risk of melting down and destroying your motherboard, cpu, and ram and stinking up your residence.

Worth it? YOU DECIDE!
rightstuff
Profile Joined October 2010
United States160 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 04:27:48
September 29 2011 04:22 GMT
#12252
Quick question: Is powercooler a reliable manufacturer of AMD cards?

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=56240&vpn=AX6850 1GBD5-DH&manufacture=PowerColor&promoid=1115

Edit: Sorry for the double post, I just didn't think to edit
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
September 29 2011 05:07 GMT
#12253
yeah powercolor is fine

but id probably still go with the 460. doesnt everything have a chance of fucking up?
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
TechTornado
Profile Joined December 2010
27 Posts
September 29 2011 07:49 GMT
#12254
Hi guys, greetings from Indonesia!
I will be building a gaming pc for starcraft 2 and diablo3. My main concern is to have constant 40-50+ FPS on 4v4 200/200 Ultra. Have questions for my new build for you tech experts :D

Graphics:
I Already own a MSI HD5870 TwinFrozer 1gb ddr5 and may plan to crossfire it in the future
1) Will 2x HD5870 bottleneck an i5-2500k?
2) Will another piece of HD5870 of another brand, (let's say Asus) work to crossfire with my current MSI one?

Power:
I am currently planning to play with 1x HD5870
1) Will it be better to power up this rig for 1x HD5870 and then upgrade the PSU at the same time I buy the second HD5870 OR power up enough wattage for 2x HD5870 from the beginning
2) How much wattage would you advice for a build with i5-2500k + 2x HD5870 +30gb SSD with other regular parts?
Random power outage is a problem in my country and I am concerned about the health of my hardware due to sudden increase/decrease of power. Therefore, I am preparing a UPS to prevent this problem
3)What is the rule of the thumb for UPS~PSU ratio?

Ram:
1) How much RAM would you suggest for this build?
2) Is there any special advantage of using 2 x 2gb rather than 1 x 4gb dims?

That's all I would be asking for now. Any advice is much appreciated

Thank you in advance!
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
September 29 2011 07:53 GMT
#12255
No cpu exept on lowest settings will handle sc2 4v4 200/200 at 40+ fps
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 07:55:13
September 29 2011 07:54 GMT
#12256
On September 29 2011 16:49 TechTornado wrote:
Hi guys, greetings from Indonesia!
I will be building a gaming pc for starcraft 2 and diablo3. My main concern is to have constant 40-50+ FPS on 4v4 200/200 Ultra. Have questions for my new build for you tech experts :D

Graphics:
I Already own a MSI HD5870 TwinFrozer 1gb ddr5 and may plan to crossfire it in the future
1) Will 2x HD5870 bottleneck an i5-2500k?
2) Will another piece of HD5870 of another brand, (let's say Asus) work to crossfire with my current MSI one?

Power:
I am currently planning to play with 1x HD5870
1) Will it be better to power up this rig for 1x HD5870 and then upgrade the PSU at the same time I buy the second HD5870 OR power up enough wattage for 2x HD5870 from the beginning
2) How much wattage would you advice for a build with i5-2500k + 2x HD5870 +30gb SSD with other regular parts?
Random power outage is a problem in my country and I am concerned about the health of my hardware due to sudden increase/decrease of power. Therefore, I am preparing a UPS to prevent this problem
3)What is the rule of the thumb for UPS~PSU ratio?

Ram:
1) How much RAM would you suggest for this build?
2) Is there any special advantage of using 2 x 2gb rather than 1 x 4gb dims?

That's all I would be asking for now. Any advice is much appreciated

Thank you in advance!


Your bottleneck will be your processor, and anyways what you're asking for isn't really feasible, even the top of the line processors can't max out 4v4 200/200 (assuming you mean all 8 players at 200/200) with 50 FPS. I doubt it could keep 50 FPS with 2v2 200/200 on ultra.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 09:01:21
September 29 2011 08:33 GMT
#12257
On September 29 2011 12:33 Legatus Lanius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 04:24 Shikyo wrote:
On September 29 2011 02:49 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On September 29 2011 01:43 PolSC2 wrote:
Is an 850watt bronze certified power supply be able to power two http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102918 in crossfire?

EDIT: Or a 650 gold?

EDIT 2: Also, is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130611 a decent mobo to support crossfire? I don't want to go with super cheap items.


a 650w would work with 6970s but dont crank the powertune or volt it hard coz they chew watts like mad

Btw the real question is why would you crossfire 2 6970s when the performance gain is neglicible in comparison to crossfire 6950s


i dont know why youd bother with cf in the first place even a single 6870 runs new games like deus ex 3 maxed on 1080p

First of all it doesn't, second nvm

On September 29 2011 16:49 TechTornado wrote:
Hi guys, greetings from Indonesia!
I will be building a gaming pc for starcraft 2 and diablo3. My main concern is to have constant 40-50+ FPS on 4v4 200/200 Ultra. Have questions for my new build for you tech experts :D

Graphics:
I Already own a MSI HD5870 TwinFrozer 1gb ddr5 and may plan to crossfire it in the future
1) Will 2x HD5870 bottleneck an i5-2500k?
2) Will another piece of HD5870 of another brand, (let's say Asus) work to crossfire with my current MSI one?

Power:
I am currently planning to play with 1x HD5870
1) Will it be better to power up this rig for 1x HD5870 and then upgrade the PSU at the same time I buy the second HD5870 OR power up enough wattage for 2x HD5870 from the beginning
2) How much wattage would you advice for a build with i5-2500k + 2x HD5870 +30gb SSD with other regular parts?
Random power outage is a problem in my country and I am concerned about the health of my hardware due to sudden increase/decrease of power. Therefore, I am preparing a UPS to prevent this problem
3)What is the rule of the thumb for UPS~PSU ratio?

Ram:
1) How much RAM would you suggest for this build?
2) Is there any special advantage of using 2 x 2gb rather than 1 x 4gb dims?

That's all I would be asking for now. Any advice is much appreciated

Thank you in advance!
5870 maxes the game so you're set there.

2500k definitely is the bottleneck with SC2, just like every other processor. You could try spending a few thousand on a double Xeon setup or just get a 200 dollar 2500k, up to you.

Yes another brand works, you can even crossfire a 5850 with the 5870.

For crossfiring 5870s you probably want around 650-700W to be safe.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
September 29 2011 08:59 GMT
#12258
I like to see a 4v4 game where all 8 players are maxed. I've played 4v4 quite a lot and it's never been close lol.

I have a oc:ed i5 2500k and it's very rare I experience any significant problems in 4v4 as a result of the cpu. If people are so concerned about the cpu bottlenecking very occasionally in 4v4, they should really start playing 1v1s where those things actually matter.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
September 29 2011 09:04 GMT
#12259
On September 29 2011 17:59 gruff wrote:
I like to see a 4v4 game where all 8 players are maxed. I've played 4v4 quite a lot and it's never been close lol.

I have a oc:ed i5 2500k and it's very rare I experience any significant problems in 4v4 as a result of the cpu. If people are so concerned about the cpu bottlenecking very occasionally in 4v4, they should really start playing 1v1s where those things actually matter.


we're talking about 8 maxed out people, ofc no problem untill late game, but try playing with 8 * 300 lings and tell me how much fps you get
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 09:23:12
September 29 2011 09:13 GMT
#12260
Uhm yeah I know, that wasn't my point... There are very few realistic scenarios where the cpu bottleneck shows itself. Maybe in monobattles or something. I've played many 50+ min 4v4's and late game is usually not very large armies but rather 2 or 3 players having big armies while the rest running low on minerals/units. All I'm saying it's a bit pointless to ask for a lag free maxed 4v4 since that rarely happens if you are not messing around and in turn won't be as much of a significance as an competitive 1v1 game.
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