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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
September 28 2011 16:45 GMT
#12221
A really damned good 650W PSU can actually do that fine. If your PSU isn't lying about its specs, it won't have trouble running those cards.
Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
September 28 2011 16:50 GMT
#12222
On September 29 2011 01:37 Womwomwom wrote:
Obviously its louder, it has one extra fan. Not to mention Fractal uses sleeve bearing fans while Lian Li is probably using ball bearing fans and the Lian Li's rear 120mm fan is spinning at a crazy 1500RPM. Swapping out the rear 120mm fan for something slower is probably going to do a lot because OEM quality fans spinning that fast simply sound like shit no matter what.


What fan brand/model would you recommend?
LoL @ NA: bambipwnsu
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 17:01:14
September 28 2011 16:56 GMT
#12223
Doesn't the Fractal Design Core 3000 come with a PCI fan controller? Assuming the Lian Li fans aren't using molex like old Antec fans do, you can just hook the noisy fans to the controller and decrease their speed.

Gelids, Nexus Real Silents, Scythe, and Antec TrueQuiets are your best bets. Noctua is an absolute waste of cash, don't bother with them.

On September 29 2011 01:43 PolSC2 wrote:
Is an 850watt bronze certified power supply be able to power two http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102918 in crossfire?

EDIT: Or a 650 gold?

EDIT 2: Also, is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130611 a decent mobo to support crossfire? I don't want to go with super cheap items.


ASRock P67 EXTREME4 is your best bet still I think. Is there a reason why you want Z68. It doesn't give you anything but QuickSync or SSD caching, both rather useless features for consumers and gamers.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 17:05:21
September 28 2011 17:05 GMT
#12224
On September 29 2011 01:50 Bambipwnsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 01:37 Womwomwom wrote:
Obviously its louder, it has one extra fan. Not to mention Fractal uses sleeve bearing fans while Lian Li is probably using ball bearing fans and the Lian Li's rear 120mm fan is spinning at a crazy 1500RPM. Swapping out the rear 120mm fan for something slower is probably going to do a lot because OEM quality fans spinning that fast simply sound like shit no matter what.


What fan brand/model would you recommend?

Delta. (shh dont tell him)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
PolSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States634 Posts
September 28 2011 17:09 GMT
#12225
On September 29 2011 01:56 Womwomwom wrote:
Doesn't the Fractal Design Core 3000 come with a PCI fan controller? Assuming the Lian Li fans aren't using molex like old Antec fans do, you can just hook the noisy fans to the controller and decrease their speed.

Gelids, Nexus Real Silents, Scythe, and Antec TrueQuiets are your best bets. Noctua is an absolute waste of cash, don't bother with them.

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 01:43 PolSC2 wrote:
Is an 850watt bronze certified power supply be able to power two http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102918 in crossfire?

EDIT: Or a 650 gold?

EDIT 2: Also, is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130611 a decent mobo to support crossfire? I don't want to go with super cheap items.


ASRock P67 EXTREME4 is your best bet still I think. Is there a reason why you want Z68. It doesn't give you anything but QuickSync or SSD caching, both rather useless features for consumers and gamers.


I was thinking about this motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130611

So if he DOES want to upgrade to an ivy bridge chip, i can do it for him.

I also went with this power supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194058

700w just to be safe, gold certified, modular, crossfire ready, and nothing but great reviews.
We learn nothing from history except that we learn nothing from history.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
September 28 2011 17:11 GMT
#12226
On September 29 2011 02:09 PolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 01:56 Womwomwom wrote:
Doesn't the Fractal Design Core 3000 come with a PCI fan controller? Assuming the Lian Li fans aren't using molex like old Antec fans do, you can just hook the noisy fans to the controller and decrease their speed.

Gelids, Nexus Real Silents, Scythe, and Antec TrueQuiets are your best bets. Noctua is an absolute waste of cash, don't bother with them.

On September 29 2011 01:43 PolSC2 wrote:
Is an 850watt bronze certified power supply be able to power two http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102918 in crossfire?

EDIT: Or a 650 gold?

EDIT 2: Also, is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130611 a decent mobo to support crossfire? I don't want to go with super cheap items.


ASRock P67 EXTREME4 is your best bet still I think. Is there a reason why you want Z68. It doesn't give you anything but QuickSync or SSD caching, both rather useless features for consumers and gamers.


I was thinking about this motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130611

So if he DOES want to upgrade to an ivy bridge chip, i can do it for him.

I also went with this power supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194058

700w just to be safe, gold certified, modular, crossfire ready, and nothing but great reviews.


I can only laugh at your reasoning.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 17:18:53
September 28 2011 17:14 GMT
#12227
What makes you think that board can run Ivy Bridge and the Asrock board can't? Compatibility is a total crapshoot anyway as all those idiots who bought "Bulldozer ready" 800 series motherboards are bound to find out.

PCIe 3.0 is not going to be an important factor in compatibility. Motherboard doesn't have PCIe 3.0? The CPU doesn't give a shit and will use whatever the next best thing is. PCIe 3.0 is dead useless for consumers anyway, we can't even really saturate PCIe 2.1 with our GPUs.
PolSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 17:20:35
September 28 2011 17:19 GMT
#12228
On September 29 2011 02:11 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 02:09 PolSC2 wrote:
On September 29 2011 01:56 Womwomwom wrote:
Doesn't the Fractal Design Core 3000 come with a PCI fan controller? Assuming the Lian Li fans aren't using molex like old Antec fans do, you can just hook the noisy fans to the controller and decrease their speed.

Gelids, Nexus Real Silents, Scythe, and Antec TrueQuiets are your best bets. Noctua is an absolute waste of cash, don't bother with them.

On September 29 2011 01:43 PolSC2 wrote:
Is an 850watt bronze certified power supply be able to power two http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102918 in crossfire?

EDIT: Or a 650 gold?

EDIT 2: Also, is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130611 a decent mobo to support crossfire? I don't want to go with super cheap items.


ASRock P67 EXTREME4 is your best bet still I think. Is there a reason why you want Z68. It doesn't give you anything but QuickSync or SSD caching, both rather useless features for consumers and gamers.


I was thinking about this motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130611

So if he DOES want to upgrade to an ivy bridge chip, i can do it for him.

I also went with this power supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194058

700w just to be safe, gold certified, modular, crossfire ready, and nothing but great reviews.


I can only laugh at your reasoning.


That's why I came here for help. -_-

On September 29 2011 02:14 Womwomwom wrote:
What makes you think that board can run Ivy Bridge and the Asrock board can't? Compatibility is a total crapshoot anyway as all those idiots who bought "Bulldozer ready" 800 series motherboards are bound to find out.

PCIe 3.0 is not going to be an important factor in compatibility. Motherboard doesn't have PCIe 3.0? The CPU doesn't give a shit and will use whatever the next best thing is. PCIe 3.0 is dead useless for consumers anyway, we can't even really saturate PCIe 2.1 with our GPUs.


I see...
We learn nothing from history except that we learn nothing from history.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 17:24:29
September 28 2011 17:23 GMT
#12229
On September 29 2011 02:09 PolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 01:56 Womwomwom wrote:
Doesn't the Fractal Design Core 3000 come with a PCI fan controller? Assuming the Lian Li fans aren't using molex like old Antec fans do, you can just hook the noisy fans to the controller and decrease their speed.

Gelids, Nexus Real Silents, Scythe, and Antec TrueQuiets are your best bets. Noctua is an absolute waste of cash, don't bother with them.

On September 29 2011 01:43 PolSC2 wrote:
Is an 850watt bronze certified power supply be able to power two http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102918 in crossfire?

EDIT: Or a 650 gold?

EDIT 2: Also, is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130611 a decent mobo to support crossfire? I don't want to go with super cheap items.


ASRock P67 EXTREME4 is your best bet still I think. Is there a reason why you want Z68. It doesn't give you anything but QuickSync or SSD caching, both rather useless features for consumers and gamers.


I was thinking about this motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130611

So if he DOES want to upgrade to an ivy bridge chip, i can do it for him.

I also went with this power supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194058

700w just to be safe, gold certified, modular, crossfire ready, and nothing but great reviews.

Wow, a 700w gold certified PSU has great reviews when it costs 200. This is very unexpected. That's costier than a Super Flower Golden Green Modular 800w... no just no.

please tell me what's wrong with this mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Madoga
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 17:40:27
September 28 2011 17:36 GMT
#12230
Lepa g700 is internally the same as the modu87+ but cheaper.

Though you'd probably be better off looking for MIR or a discount deal.
for examble the Seasonic X650 Though for 6970 in CF you might want to get 700-750W.
Dont really have time to browse around for you right now though.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 28 2011 17:39 GMT
#12231
You guys know that gold certificate doesn't mean that it can support more wattage than bronze certificate right? it mostly depends on the 12v rail
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
September 28 2011 17:40 GMT
#12232
ive had a mate tell me that MSI mobo arent really reliable - or that all the ones that hes had in the past havent been.

Anyone else had this problem too? or are they just as good as any other?

thanks
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
September 28 2011 17:49 GMT
#12233
On September 29 2011 01:43 PolSC2 wrote:
Is an 850watt bronze certified power supply be able to power two http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102918 in crossfire?

EDIT: Or a 650 gold?

EDIT 2: Also, is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130611 a decent mobo to support crossfire? I don't want to go with super cheap items.


a 650w would work with 6970s but dont crank the powertune or volt it hard coz they chew watts like mad
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 28 2011 19:24 GMT
#12234
On September 29 2011 02:49 Legatus Lanius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 01:43 PolSC2 wrote:
Is an 850watt bronze certified power supply be able to power two http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102918 in crossfire?

EDIT: Or a 650 gold?

EDIT 2: Also, is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130611 a decent mobo to support crossfire? I don't want to go with super cheap items.


a 650w would work with 6970s but dont crank the powertune or volt it hard coz they chew watts like mad

Btw the real question is why would you crossfire 2 6970s when the performance gain is neglicible in comparison to crossfire 6950s
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 20:30:39
September 28 2011 20:26 GMT
#12235
ok so heres my build atm, any feedback on how good it is, or if i can swap any parts for cheaper ones or if im overkilling anything would be appreciated thanks

Graphics
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=39504&agid=1004

hard drive
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=28152&agid=689

mobo
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=48252&agid=1603

CPU
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=41227&agid=1617

ram
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=38050&agid=1192
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 28 2011 20:29 GMT
#12236
Looks good.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 28 2011 20:55 GMT
#12237
overkilling anything with that build? o.O The only thing you could be overkilling is getting a 2300 instead of 2100 but it depends on what you're looking for
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
September 28 2011 21:41 GMT
#12238
On September 29 2011 02:19 PolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 02:11 FabledIntegral wrote:
On September 29 2011 02:09 PolSC2 wrote:
On September 29 2011 01:56 Womwomwom wrote:
Doesn't the Fractal Design Core 3000 come with a PCI fan controller? Assuming the Lian Li fans aren't using molex like old Antec fans do, you can just hook the noisy fans to the controller and decrease their speed.

Gelids, Nexus Real Silents, Scythe, and Antec TrueQuiets are your best bets. Noctua is an absolute waste of cash, don't bother with them.

On September 29 2011 01:43 PolSC2 wrote:
Is an 850watt bronze certified power supply be able to power two http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102918 in crossfire?

EDIT: Or a 650 gold?

EDIT 2: Also, is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130611 a decent mobo to support crossfire? I don't want to go with super cheap items.


ASRock P67 EXTREME4 is your best bet still I think. Is there a reason why you want Z68. It doesn't give you anything but QuickSync or SSD caching, both rather useless features for consumers and gamers.


I was thinking about this motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130611

So if he DOES want to upgrade to an ivy bridge chip, i can do it for him.

I also went with this power supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194058

700w just to be safe, gold certified, modular, crossfire ready, and nothing but great reviews.


I can only laugh at your reasoning.


That's why I came here for help. -_-


Oh, just so you know, you used the word "went" so I assumed you had already bought the products.
rv238
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States24 Posts
September 29 2011 01:00 GMT
#12239
Hey guys I am just on the last part of my computer build now and I'm wondering what video card would be the best compliment to my i5 2500k for around $300. I'm a nvidia fan and will favor there cards heavily and also am wondering about micro-stuttering if I went 2 gtx 460's. Any help is greatly appreciated.
LOLZ
Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
September 29 2011 02:24 GMT
#12240
On September 29 2011 02:05 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 01:50 Bambipwnsu wrote:
On September 29 2011 01:37 Womwomwom wrote:
Obviously its louder, it has one extra fan. Not to mention Fractal uses sleeve bearing fans while Lian Li is probably using ball bearing fans and the Lian Li's rear 120mm fan is spinning at a crazy 1500RPM. Swapping out the rear 120mm fan for something slower is probably going to do a lot because OEM quality fans spinning that fast simply sound like shit no matter what.


What fan brand/model would you recommend?

Delta. (shh dont tell him)


No need for liftoff here.
LoL @ NA: bambipwnsu
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