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rv238
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On September 21 2011 08:29 rv238 wrote: ok so since my 6950 idea was dumb witch after substancle amout of more reading i totally agree with what gfx card is good with it im also willing to get a i52500k but thx to budget changes almost constantly it needs to be around 700 but maximum gaming incoding and recording power What exactly is this supposed to mean? Say again in English please? | ||
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rv238
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Myrmidon
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rv238
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On September 21 2011 08:24 b_unnies wrote: yah, pretty much reussing the same HD. too lazy to reformat considering i just did a reformat 3-4 days ago Why would you reformat and reuse on your old build right before you're going to put it in a new build...? If you really did it so recently, reformatting would probably take *less* effort unless you know exactly what you're doing. | ||
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pandazzz
United States2 Posts
What is your budget? $400-$500, spending a bit more to get better reliability is okay. What is your resolution? Haven't purchased a monitor yet, will get 1920x1080 or 1920x1200. (Possibly two). What are you using it for? Word processing, programming, running some mathematics computations, watching movies, possibly running a personal server. I would like to be able to play SC2 on average settings on it, though. What is your upgrade cycle? 3+ years. When do you plan on building it? Preferably soon. Ok to wait for a couple months if there is a big advantage. Do you plan on overclocking? No. Do you need an Operating System? No, plan to dual boot Ubuntu and free Windows through my school. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. Where are you buying your parts from? US Boston area, probably online. Any help would be appreciated. | ||
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strikerz200
58 Posts
Normally I run 80~120 fps, but would go down to 10 ~ 15fps for about a minute and a half. Here is my computer spec GPU - 9800GT (3 years old+) CPU - I3-2100 (2 months old ) RAM - 4gb ram (2 months old) MOBO - Some ASRock mobo (2 months old) Harddrive - 1TB Seagtae 7200rpm 2 weeks old, installed Windows 7 64 Bit. PSU - 550NEO HE [ 5 Years old ] This problem didnt happen as frequently as they do now. I think I've also found a pattern, it happens when you put stress on video card. but Im not sure if thats whats causing this problem. I have download a temperature checker, everything is under 45degrees, but my gpu in game goes up to 110~115 whie cpu stays around 45 degrees at 25% usage. can you confirm its my video card for sure? what other tests do you recommend I do? also if it is my gpu, what do you suggest under $150 budget? P.S - My memory usage is at 65% constantly | ||
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
I was thinking the Corsair HS1A at 39.99 (not the USB), but read that the bass is not really good | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On September 21 2011 13:32 pandazzz wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Longtime lurker here, wanted to get some suggestions for my first desktop build. I've been using a laptop for around 10 years, but now want something a bit more beefy. I'm also looking for 1-2 monitors; any suggestions with high vertical resolution (at least 1200 pixels) would be appreciated. What is your budget? $400-$500, spending a bit more to get better reliability is okay. What is your resolution? Haven't purchased a monitor yet, will get 1920x1080 or 1920x1200. (Possibly two). What are you using it for? Word processing, programming, running some mathematics computations, watching movies, possibly running a personal server. I would like to be able to play SC2 on average settings on it, though. What is your upgrade cycle? 3+ years. When do you plan on building it? Preferably soon. Ok to wait for a couple months if there is a big advantage. Do you plan on overclocking? No. Do you need an Operating System? No, plan to dual boot Ubuntu and free Windows through my school. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. Where are you buying your parts from? US Boston area, probably online. Any help would be appreciated. Here's a configuration that totals to $456 to get you started, capable of playing Starcraft II on medium at 1080p: I'm not a hosting expert so I'm not sure if you need a quad or if a dual is suitable for hosting whatever you plan on hosting. Intel Core i5 2400 & PNY 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $221 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.723828 Radeon HD5670 @ $70 ($55 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102930 Asrock H61M-VS @ $55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241 Xigmatek Asgard II @ $30 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811815005 Hitachi 500GB @ $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145299 Antec Neo Eco 400C @ $30 ($20) <-- This is a shellshocker deal that won't last much longer. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371029 + Show Spoiler + If you don't catch it than this: Antec Earthwatts 380D @ $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033 DVD Burner @ $17 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136238 On September 21 2011 13:38 strikerz200 wrote:+ Show Spoiler + whenever im playing a game, I get a big fps dip rather frequently. Normally I run 80~120 fps, but would go down to 10 ~ 15fps for about a minute and a half. Here is my computer spec GPU - 9800GT (3 years old+) CPU - I3-2100 (2 months old ) RAM - 4gb ram (2 months old) MOBO - Some ASRock mobo (2 months old) Harddrive - 1TB Seagtae 7200rpm 2 weeks old, installed Windows 7 64 Bit. PSU - 550NEO HE [ 5 Years old ] This problem didnt happen as frequently as they do now. I think I've also found a pattern, it happens when you put stress on video card. but Im not sure if thats whats causing this problem. I have download a temperature checker, everything is under 45degrees, but my gpu in game goes up to 110~115 whie cpu stays around 45 degrees at 25% usage. can you confirm its my video card for sure? what other tests do you recommend I do? also if it is my gpu, what do you suggest under $150 budget? P.S - My memory usage is at 65% constantly You can stress test the processor with prime95 and monitor temperature with Real Temp and monitor clock speed with CPU-Z. You can test your memory with memtest86 (www.memtest.org), let it run for at least four passes. If a single error shows up, you have a problem with the memory. iirc 9800gt Tjmax is 120c so you're getting pretty close to the threshold and it's definitely not a comfortable temperature to be running at. Have you cleaned out all the dust from the inside of your computer, fans, and heatsinks recently? | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
If gaming graphics settings (going above "average") is deemed more important than a couple of CPU cores, going with the i3-2100 and HD 6770 or possibly bumping up to a HD 6850 is maybe a better choice. An HD 6770 is about twice as fast as a HD 5670, and the HD 6850 is about another third as fast as an HD 6770, for a rough reference. i3-2100 combo with same 2 x 4GB DDR3 RAM - $159 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.723793 Sapphire HD 6770 - $110, $90 AMIR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102941 HIS HD 6850 - $150, $140 AMIR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161384 | ||
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b_unnies
3579 Posts
On September 21 2011 11:39 FabledIntegral wrote: Why would you reformat and reuse on your old build right before you're going to put it in a new build...? If you really did it so recently, reformatting would probably take *less* effort unless you know exactly what you're doing. I did something strange a couple days ago that caused me to mess up my entire OS and that was before i decided to buy my build anyways. i just finished making my build and for some reason my computer loads the motherboard screensaver screen and then immedialely the computer restarts. it says to press DEL to enter bios but when i do, nothing happens and computer restarts. | ||
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Quartal
140 Posts
How true do you believe this rumor is, does it have any merit, and what will be of PCI 3.0 boards such as those by MSI and ASRock if this is true? September 7 2011 VR-ZONE: even if the hardware is compatible, there might be a UEFI related issue that will prevent many motherboards from ever accepting an Ivy Bridge CPU. Then 10 days Later September 17 2011 Anandtech: Ivy Bridge is backwards compatible with existing LGA-1155 motherboards | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
"What we don't know is if this applies to all motherboards, or if this is an issue unique to Intel." Speculation at this point. Up to you if you want to believe or not. No one here is going to know better. | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
No, if Intel wants to fuck the end-user in the face and get more $$$ from selling chipsets and motherboards, they'll release a new socket and properly segment the important features. | ||
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Pwnographics
New Zealand1097 Posts
On September 21 2011 00:16 Myrmidon wrote: Yeah most of the self-contained watercooling systems are both (1) super overkill for OC a i5-2500k to 4.5 GHz and (2) louder than necessary.* I'd just go for a decent air cooler. I mean, for the same price you could get like a Noctua NH-D14, not that I'd recommend doing so. *edit: and I mean the pump is loud, so there's nothing you can do about it, unlike an air cooler, where you can use a different fan or different fan speed control. Maybe Gelid Tranquillo? I'm not sure. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835426023 You should look at the Antec P183 (price has come down a bit) or maybe Fractal Design R3. The latter is cheaper in both senses, but it gives you the option of a few more fan vents if cooling at the stock config is not enough. For example, it might be better to move the front intake to the side panel, or get an extra fan for the side, to directly feed air to the HD 6970. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129174 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352004 Do you have any info on the Fractal Design XL? | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
Also doesn't help it is so large and you are basically forced to cable route through the back. With lower wattage power supplies, you might need some extension cables to reach the ATX 8 pin and 24 pin slots. The Antec P183 and Fractal Design R3 can easily handle single GPU builds. Fractal Design R3 is a more flexible case since it has more fan mounts but the Antec P183 will ultimately be more quiet due to better hard disk mounting mechanism, thick dampening around the PSU area, and the use of thick steel/plastic/polycarbonate sheets. Don't worry about CPU cooling because large CPU coolers + two slow moving fans in push/pull configuration can tame any moderate overclocks. | ||
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Pwnographics
New Zealand1097 Posts
On September 21 2011 19:46 Womwomwom wrote: Too large to properly cool. Don't bother with it unless you're going to cram 10x hard disks in there. Larger cases are harder to cool because little case fans aren't powerful enough to push a stream of well directed air. Also doesn't help it is so large and you are basically forced to cable route through the back. With lower wattage power supplies, you might need some extension cables to reach the ATX 8 pin and 24 pin slots. The Antec P183 and Fractal Design R3 can easily handle single GPU builds. Fractal Design R3 is a more flexible case since it has more fan mounts but the Antec P183 will ultimately be more quiet due to better hard disk mounting mechanism, thick dampening around the PSU area, and the use of thick steel/plastic/polycarbonate sheets. Don't worry about CPU cooling because large CPU coolers + two slow moving fans in push/pull configuration can tame any moderate overclocks. I've heard that the Antec P183 has: 1) Louder stock fans than Fractal. 2) Top fan rattles hard. 3) You need to buy some additional acoustic dampening to outpreform the R3. | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
1) Louder stock fans than Fractal. When the three speed controller on the TriCools are turned to high speed, they're louder yes. On low, definitely not, especially with the Fractal case revisions (that's the R3) coming with higher RPM stock fans to improve cooling performance in reviews. Neither chassis includes particularly fantastic fans, with the TriCools being extremely loud when on high speed settings and the Fractal fans being sleeve bearing fans that can click when mounted horizontally. 2) Top fan rattles hard. Use rubber screws to suspend the fan, cut the metal grill out, or put a coin between the fan grill and top fan. These are the simple solutions to stopping the problem but yes, the top fan does rattle when you pay close attention. 3) You need to buy some additional acoustic dampening to outpreform the R3. Definitely not. The P183 has a more robust frame, better hard drive mounts, gooey silicon feet, thick polycarbonate-integrated side panels instead of tack on bitumen sheets, and the combination of steel and thick plastic all around means it will be quieter than the R3. I know some people at computer enthusiast websites, like Overclocks, seem to believe that the P183 is lower quality or structurally worse than the R3 but I simply cannot see where they get that idea from. The only problem with the P183 is that its outdated in design and thus can feel claustrophobic inside compared to new mid towers. Its seriously a non-issue if you don't swap major parts often, however. If you want a flexible chassis that pretty much does everything decently, the Fractal Design R3 is by far the best out there. If you are simply gunning for quiet computing w/500W PSU builds and nothing else, the Antec P183 is still pretty much the ATX king. Well the Antec Solo II is probably better but its a really expensive pill to swallow ($130 holy shit) unless you really, really hate noise. | ||
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geethy
Australia67 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Antec 300 Case- $59 I5 2400- $195 Western Digital Green 1TB- $55 Samsung 20.5 inches Widescreen LED monitor- $125 Corsair CMX8GX3M2A1333C9 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3- $59 ASRock H61M/U3S3 Motherboard B3- $77 Antec High Current Gamer 520W Power Supply HCG-520- $79 LG GH22NS70 22x SATA DVD-RW Drive OEM- $25 TP-Link TL-WN851ND 300Mbps Wireless N PCI Adapter- $29 ASUS Radeon HD6770 1GB- $135 Beige PS2 Standard Keyboard- $9 All up it comes to $847, can anyone help me shave off about $150? He pretty much only wants it for gaming. Shanks for any help  | ||
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