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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 18:34:37
August 13 2011 18:34 GMT
#9641
On August 14 2011 03:28 divito wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Figured I'd throw my hat in as well for KStew, been awhile since I've thrown parts together + have to get used to US pricing:

Core i5-2500 @ $220
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

MSI PH67S-C43 @ $85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130579

EVGA SuperClocked GTX 560 @ $200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130661

Corsair 2x4GB DDR3/1333 @ $49
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233192

Antec BP550 @ $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371016

Antec Three Hundred @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

LITE-ON Burner @ $19
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289

$738 before MIR, tax, shipping etc...


BP550 is overpriced. Neo Eco provides more power and is less expensive, higher quality as well: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030

No point in paying a premium for a pre-overclocked card when you can do it yourself for $10 less.

Not sure why everyone is recommending Corsair memory when GSkill 8GB is at $35...
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 18:35:27
August 13 2011 18:34 GMT
#9642
Uhm, saving $10 for a negligible difference isn't pointless at all. If nothing else, save that $10 on RAM, throw in another 20, and step up from a 2400 to a 2500 non-k, and gain more performance...

There's usually better places to put the money, particularly since he may end up having to screw around with settings to actually talk his RAM into running at 1600, and not everyone likes to have to mess with things. He pretty clearly wants plug n play.

Faster memory really doesn't show it's legs without OCing the CPU anyways.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 18:43:47
August 13 2011 18:43 GMT
#9643
Ok so i'll recap the build with the Gskill ram and antec case

Core i5 2400 @ $150
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354590

ASUS P8H61 @ $75
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0365088

Sapphire Radeon HD6870 @ $175 ($155 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948

G.SKILL 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422

XFX Core Edition Pro 450 @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012

ANTEC 300 illusion @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066

DVD Burner + 1TB Seagate Barracuda @ $68

so only 618$ before MIR
and 768$ if you add the monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009266



Edit : we might as well include some of these builds in the OP and update them from time to time ^^
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 13 2011 18:46 GMT
#9644
@Rachnar: The OP is currently locked, I asked Frag about it a while back. He'd have to get a mod to unlock it. Besides which, it's almost impossible to keep anything besides basic guidelines updated due to sales.
Horuku
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States405 Posts
August 13 2011 19:01 GMT
#9645
On August 14 2011 03:46 JingleHell wrote:
@Rachnar: The OP is currently locked, I asked Frag about it a while back. He'd have to get a mod to unlock it. Besides which, it's almost impossible to keep anything besides basic guidelines updated due to sales.


Still, it could do with some updating. There isn't any discussion going on in the OP over things like differences between P67 vs. Z68, information regarding newer graphics cards (560 gtx TI vs 570 gtx vs 580 gtx), etc.

Those are just some examples, but I'm curious as to why there isn't someone maintaining it?
d<^^>b
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 19:02:42
August 13 2011 19:02 GMT
#9646
Nobody is maintaining it because getting it unlocked and keeping it updated is pointless, since nobody reads the OP of any thread in this sub-board anyway.

Also, I'm not entirely sure how often Frag actually checks in here.
Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
August 13 2011 19:13 GMT
#9647
On August 14 2011 04:02 JingleHell wrote:
Nobody is maintaining it because getting it unlocked and keeping it updated is pointless, since nobody reads the OP of any thread in this sub-board anyway.

Also, I'm not entirely sure how often Frag actually checks in here.


says it was last updated 5-18-2011, idk WHAT was updated, maybe just the mods locking it
I'm like badass squared | KeitZer.489
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 13 2011 19:16 GMT
#9648
Maybe a mod edited something in. It's not that it's locked really, you just can't edit a post after a certain amount of time un-edited without a mod's help.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 19:58:41
August 13 2011 19:57 GMT
#9649
On August 14 2011 04:02 JingleHell wrote:
Nobody is maintaining it because getting it unlocked and keeping it updated is pointless, since nobody reads the OP of any thread in this sub-board anyway.

Also, I'm not entirely sure how often Frag actually checks in here.

I don't know, I just recently got into computers and I read the OP like once a week. =D

Btw what is the difference between H61 and H67? The only Google issues I found were less SATA ports and no capability of overclocking GPUs for H67.

Just another thought that came to my head, should I get my father (the low budget computer non-gaming if you don't recall) a Phenom II x4 or 6? I know the second-generation Core series rips apart Phenoms, but since he does not game will it make a difference? I recall him saying he always wanted to see how a non-integrated graphics runs, so I am thinking about getting him a cheap-rebate 5670 1 GB to show him, as he probably won't notice anything since he doesn't game, but if it makes him happy...

(I also have no idea how to run integrated graphics and plugging in those stuff, even where the monitor cables go)...

710+ Posts with a Probe Icon =D
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 20:05:52
August 13 2011 20:05 GMT
#9650
An i3-2100 should be at around the same price as an x4 and be better basicly (exept come few specific tasks)

a 6 core will be totally useless for him too

a good cheap gpu is a gts450 which can even run games on high settings depending on the resolution, but if he has no intention of the sort then the HD5670 will be more then plenty

the monitor cable for integrated graphics would go directly in the motherboard

the difference between h61 and h67 is just connectivity
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
August 13 2011 20:17 GMT
#9651
Thanks, this comes down to about $550 after tax and rebates, any suggestions or things I can save? (The 1 TB is for movies that he downloads frequently, though he deletes them everytime he watches).

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=18395226
710+ Posts with a Probe Icon =D
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
August 13 2011 20:25 GMT
#9652
The cpu, an i5 is too much for just basic stuff .... actually i'd say even an i3 is but as it's so cheap

55$ for a 1tb 5400 rpm ? you can have 1tb 7200 rpm for 50$

you can get a cheaper mobo (basicly any will do the work)

and i'm sure you can find less expensive PSU if you look well, for such a low power consuming computer that corsair is overkill (in the meantime any would be)
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
August 13 2011 20:34 GMT
#9653
The Corsair PSU is $20 atm with the discount code and rebate. I would downgrade to an i5 2300 then! Thanks a lot! I am only ordering the PSU atm, so I will deal with any small stuff like the CPU later. I will deal with the HDD next week, thanks!
710+ Posts with a Probe Icon =D
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 20:36:02
August 13 2011 20:35 GMT
#9654
nono ... an i3-2100 ....

but yeah if the psu is so cheap, go for it
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
divito
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1213 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 20:40:49
August 13 2011 20:40 GMT
#9655
For reference, Maximum PC had a build a month or two back for a $667 PC. Parts are:

Sapphire HD 6790 @ $150
i3-2100 @ $126
Samsung SH-S222A @ $22
Gigabyte GA-H67M-D2-B3 @ $90
Rosewill RG530-S12 @ $50
Patriot 4GB DDR3/1333 @ $40
Rosewill R218 @ $30
WD Caviar Blue 1TB @ $60

and they include Win 7 HP @ $99
Skype: divito7
GFLOW
Profile Joined November 2010
United States48 Posts
August 13 2011 20:45 GMT
#9656
Just curious if these temps look ok. The computer has been on for a couple hours and it's been a while since I've built a comp. Thanks for any input [image loading][/img]
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
August 13 2011 20:46 GMT
#9657
On August 14 2011 04:16 JingleHell wrote:
Maybe a mod edited something in. It's not that it's locked really, you just can't edit a post after a certain amount of time un-edited without a mod's help.

i can edit but it'd probably be easier just to start a new thread every quarter or so since that's when most of the new changes take place. also, it makes the thread less of a 500 page pain in the ass to read for useful information.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 20:59:23
August 13 2011 20:55 GMT
#9658
Might as well wait for bulldozer to get out if we wanna do that sort of thing

edit : @ skip : those temps are good, overclock it and see at how much you can get
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
August 13 2011 20:59 GMT
#9659
Hey guys, I run my computer in 1920x1200 and it's getting to be a lower end system these days. I can't play SC2 smoothly in a really low resolution... THAT kind of slow.

So I've decided to spend $600-$900 on a new computer. I have a PSU, case, SATA HDD and DVD drive, monitor, keyboard, mouse, and win7 64-bit so I've foregone those in the list. Here's what I have so far.

Motherboard: BIOSTAR TZ68A+ LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX
CPU: Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52400
GPU: GTX 570
OR THIS GPU: GTX 570
RAM: Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory
HDD: SAMSUNG SpinPoint T Series HD501LJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive
PSU: SILVERSTONE ST75F 750W ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V
Case: Antec P180B ATX
OS: Windows 7 (64 bit)

My major questions are as follows:
1. Are all the parts compatible with each other? The PSU and case are older, and I'm not sure if they will work with this build.
2. How big of a PSU (wattage) do I NEED with this build?
3. On the motherboard, is the PCIe 2.0 x16 slot too close to the CPU to be a problem in terms of heat?
4. Will it run SC2 on high/ultra at 1920x1200?
5. Will it run BF3 on high/ultra at 1920x1200?
6. Should I buy extra cooling for any parts in particular if I have the money?

I might not post for a day or so, moving into my new place.
Please PM me with any songs you like that you think I haven't heard before!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 13 2011 21:06 GMT
#9660
Yes all the parts are compatible but some are poor decisions. There's a negligible increase in performance going from 1333MHz memory to 1600MHz memory, 8GB of memory can be had for $35 if you are purchasing within the next day or so: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422

The primary reason to get a Z68 board is for overclocking and since you don't seem to be doing that (since you need a core i5 2500k for it), it seems to be a waste of money when you can select a H61 or H67 board for ~$20 less. Other reasons for selecting a Z68 board would be for virtu and ssd caching. But you don't seem to care about power consumption since you're picking a GTX 570 and you don't seem to have any intention of getting an SSD for caching either.

750w is more than enough for this configuration. Such a configuration needs no more than around 30a on the 12v rail.

No, PCIe slot distance from the CPU socket is fine. It might be a problem if you have a big CPU heatsink but you don't seem to be ovoerclocking.

Yes, it'll run Starcraft II and Battleifeld 3 on maxed settings at 1920x1200.
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