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On August 09 2011 22:47 nihlon wrote:You'll probably have to buy a new motherboard as well in that case since neither is on Asus site for your motherboard: http://support.asus.com/Cpusupport/List.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=M2N68-AM SE2&p=1&s=24&hashedid=rzWjxRHTivB96wPdAlthough I'm sure you'll get a lot of people saying it's better to get an intel configuration or wait for amd's new processors that comes out soon. You'll probably have to say what your budget are, what you want to use the computer for and so on if you want better advice. Also it's better you post all your components if you are worried about the power supply.
My budget is 100$-250$(for the processor). I am using it for gaming, and these are my whole specs.
Processor
Model : AMD Phenom(tm) 9550 Quad-Core Processor
Speed : 2.2GHz
Cores per Processor : 4 Unit(s)
Type : Quad-Core
Integrated Data Cache : 4x 64kB, Synchronous, Write-Back, 2-way, Exclusive, 64 byte line size
L2 Cache : 4x 512kB, ECC, Synchronous, Write-Back, 16-way, Exclusive, 64 byte line size
L3 Cache : 2MB, ECC, Synchronous, Write-Back, 32-way, 64 byte line size, 4 threads sharing
Computer
Mainboard : ASUS M2N68-AM SE2
BIOS : AMI (OEM) 1407 04/14/2010
Bus(es) : ISA X-Bus PCI PCIe IMB USB i2c/SMBus
Multi-Processor (MP) Support : No
Multi-Processor Advanced PIC (APIC) : Yes
Total Memory : 3GB DIMM DDR2
Chipset
Model : AMD F10 Athlon 64/Opteron/Sempron HT Hub
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 1GHz (2GHz)
Total Memory : 4GB DIMM DDR2
Channels : 2
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 400MHz (800MHz)
Memory Module(s)
Memory Module : Kingston 99U5429-007A00LF 2GB DIMM DDR2 PC2-6400U DDR2-800 (5-6-6-18 3-24-6-3)
Memory Module : Kingston 99U5429-007A00LF 2GB DIMM DDR2 PC2-6400U DDR2-800 (5-6-6-18 3-24-6-3)
Video System
Video Adapter : AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series (1408 SM5.0 800MHz, 1GB DDR5 5GHz, PCIe 2.00 x16)
Graphics Processor
OpenCL GP Processor : AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series (1408SP 22C 800MHz, 832MB DDR5 5GHz)
Compute Shader Processor : AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series (1408SP 800MHz, 1GB DDR5 5GHz)
STREAM GP Processor : AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series (2SP 22C 800MHz, 1GB DDR5 5GHz)
Storage Devices
SAMSUNG HD502IJ (500.1GB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, 16MB Cache) : 466GB (C
Generic STORAGE DEVICE (USB) : N/A (E
Generic STORAGE DEVICE (USB) : N/A (F
Generic STORAGE DEVICE (USB) : N/A (G
Generic STORAGE DEVICE (USB) : N/A (H
Optiarc DVD RW AD-7200A (ATAPI, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache) : 8GB (D
Logical Storage Devices
Hard Disk (C : 466GB (NTFS) @ SAMSUNG HD502IJ (500.1GB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, 16MB Cache)
DVDVolume (D : 8GB (UDF) @ Optiarc DVD RW AD-7200A (ATAPI, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache)
Removable Drive (E : N/A @ Generic STORAGE DEVICE (USB)
Removable Drive (F : N/A @ Generic STORAGE DEVICE (USB)
Removable Drive (G : N/A @ Generic STORAGE DEVICE (USB)
Removable Drive (H : N/A @ Generic STORAGE DEVICE (USB)
Peripherals
LPC Hub Controller 1 : ASUS MCP61 LPC Bridge
LPC Legacy Controller 1 : ITE IT8712F
Audio Device : ASUS MCP61 High Definition Audio
Audio Codec : Realtek Semi High Definition Audio
Audio Device : Pine Technology AA80h
Audio Codec : ATI (AMD) HDMI Audio
Serial Port(s) : 3
Disk Controller : ASUS MCP61 IDE
Disk Controller : ASUS MCP61 SATA Controller
USB Controller 1 : ASUS MCP61 USB Controller
USB Controller 2 : ASUS MCP61 USB Controller
SMBus/i2c Controller 1 : nVidia MCP5+ SMBus 1
SMBus/i2c Controller 2 : nVidia MCP5+ SMBus 2
Printers and Faxes
Printer : Microsoft XPS Document Writer (600x600, Colour)
Printer : HP LaserJet P1005 (600x600, USB)
Peripherals
Network Services
Network Adapter : NVIDIA nForce 10/100 Mbps Ethernet (Ethernet, 100Mbps)
Power Management
Mains (AC) Line Status : On-Line
Operating System
Windows System : Microsoft Windows Vista Home 6.00.6002 (Service Pack 2)
Platform Compliance : x86
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What is your budget?
$1,000
What is your resolution?
1680x1080
What are you using it for?
Play SC2 on Ultra and Stream is primary, Star Wars Old Republic, Diablo 3. (on really good settings)
What is your upgrade cycle?
4 Years
When do you plan on building it?
This week preferably.
Do you plan on overclocking?
Yes
Do you need an Operating System?
No
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No.
Where are you buying your parts from?
I can drive to local Microcenter or Frys and US-Newegg.
I want to run my OS & critical apps on a SSD and I only need about 500 GB for storage after that.
I’ve been reading this thread for a long time and would love any input/help. Thanks for your time.
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On August 09 2011 14:33 holy_war wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What is your budget?
~$800
What is your resolution?
1920x1080
What are you using it for?
Play BF3/SC2/D3 on high as a minimum
What is your upgrade cycle?
2 years or less
When do you plan on building it?
Next month
Do you plan on overclocking?
Yes
Do you need an Operating System?
No
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Yes, within the next year
Where are you buying your parts from?
Preferably online (Newegg, others)
I currently have a 1.5 TB HDD, but would like to consider adding a 60/128 gig SSD if possible. I appreciate any help.
Quite frankly $800 isn't large enough for an overclockable SLI / CrossfireX ready configuration with an SSD. You are either going to have to sacrifice the SSD or the SLI / CrossfireX readiness. I'm not sure why you are looking into doing SLI or CrossfireX unless you just feel like wasting money or plan on doing Eyefinity / Surround. Also when your upgrade cycle is less than two years, I don't see the reasoning behind doing this.
On August 09 2011 16:54 Gattaca.usa wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Using the eXtreme Power Supply calculator,
with an i5 2500k OC to 4.5GHz 1.4v (estimate)
HD 6870
4GB x2
1SATA 7200RPM HDD
1 DVD Burner Drive
1 HSF
4 LED Case Fans
It says under 90% load, the minimum PSU wattage I need is 351W, but it recommends 401W.
Will I be safe with an XFX 450W PSU? It seems like it's kind of close, will this put too much strain on my PSU?
For the extra $$ should I just get the XFX 550W? after the MIR it is only 5 more.
The power supply calculator gives you a recommended power supply wattage. Don't mistake it for a load figure. If minimum is 351w than that means it's going to use less than 300w under load.
On August 09 2011 18:26 shadowy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What PSU would you guys recommend for i5-2500k , 4x4 DRR3, GTX 580, 4 to 5 HDD/SSD, 1 DVD and couple extra fans + couple leds on a PC constrantly running BOINC (distributed computing) and tons of I/O operations on the disk drives 24/7.
System to be OCed, but nothing to the extreme.
I have 550w Cooler Master, but with alll the negative opinions in the thread about CM PSUs I start to fear about it.
Edit: For something so critical to the system, I would never be cheap. Rather spend some buck on a component like this, than on anything else.
It depends on the model. Some of their older discontinued lines such as Real Power and UCP were good. Most of the current line is crap except for the Silent Pro line though.
For a GTX 580 configuration, I would recommend a XFX Core Edition 550 or an Antec High Current Gamer 520.
On August 09 2011 17:09 Gattaca.usa wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Also, any answer to this: when assembling a build, should i get an anti static wrist strap and some zip ties?
Some manufacturers will include zipties for you. Anti static wrist strap isn't necessary but I guess if you're paranoid about it, you can get one.
On August 09 2011 22:03 Bleak wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I'm thinking to buy a:
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition AM3 3.2GHz 8MB Cache 45nm,
or
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition AM3 3.4GHz 8MB Cache 45nm,
I am using ASUS M2N68-AM SE2 motherboard, my question is, will I able to install this to that motherboard, or will I need a new one? Also, will this increase the power consumption of my system? If so, how much?
I'm using Windows Vista 32bit.
If this is primarily for gaming, you are better off getting a core i3 2100, H61 motherboard, and 4gb of DDR3 memory. This would total up to $205.
On August 10 2011 00:46 skip89w6 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What is your budget?
$1,000
What is your resolution?
1680x1080
What are you using it for?
Play SC2 on Ultra and Stream is primary, Star Wars Old Republic, Diablo 3. (on really good settings)
What is your upgrade cycle?
4 Years
When do you plan on building it?
This week preferably.
Do you plan on overclocking?
Yes
Do you need an Operating System?
No
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No.
Where are you buying your parts from?
I can drive to local Microcenter or Frys and US-Newegg.
I want to run my OS & critical apps on a SSD and I only need about 500 GB for storage after that.
I’ve been reading this thread for a long time and would love any input/help. Thanks for your time.
Here's a configuration for $898 capable of everything you asked for.
Not sure how big you want your SSD to be but you can just select one of bigger size if need be, good choices would include but not limited to Samsung 470 Series, Intel 320 Series, and Crucial M4. You did say that you only needed 500GB for a Spinpoint F3 for $50 is a good deal so why not?
Core i5 2500k @ $180
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589
ASUS P8P67 @ $120
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0364220
Sapphire Radeon HD6870 @ $175 ($155 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948
Corsair 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $49
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233192
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB @ $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
Intel 320 Series 80GB @ $160
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167049
XFX Core Edition Pro 450 @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012
Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233
Xigmatek Gaia @ $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082
DVD Burner @ $19
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136238
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Frankly, an anti-static wrist strap is good, but not vital. If you're really careful to keep one hand on the PSU, with the PSU plugged in and turned off to ground you, you can work inside the computer over carpet.
Mind you, I suggest not trying that unless you really know what you're doing, and are 100% sure about doing it one handed. Better to just move the PC off carpet to avoid static, and ground yourself against the PSU.
I do know what I'm doing, and I still don't do that for anything more complicated than pulling RAM.
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skyR why do you suggest 8GB instead of 4GB?
Thanks for the build. Going to start buying later this afternoon.
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Because you have a $1000 budget, you can step down to 2x2GB by all means but it doesn't make much sense. With memory being so inexpensive nowadays, 8GB is sort of the standard for new builds in your budget range.
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Alright, and if you had my budget and personal requirements, these are the parts you would get? Or would you save money and step down in certain areas?
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Yes. I have a 2500k, ASUS P8P67, and a Seasonic unit myself (XFX Core Edition is a rebranded Seasonic). If I were to ever get an SSD, it would be from Intel. Case is personal preference so you can choose whatever you want but the HAF 912 is a good case at a good price but personally I would never get a case from Coolermaster since I find them to be ugly.
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I dont think u guys noticed the first post, os il psot again.
What is your budget?
$500-$750
What is your resolution?
1 monitor 1280- 1024 pixels
What are you using it for?
Gaming(Think the HD 5850 should be good), Watching HD video's, movies, photoediting
What is your upgrade cycle?
As long as possible( or around 4-6 years)
When do you plan on building it?
Soon prob this month
Do you plan on overclocking?
Yes, if i need to b4 i get a new computor
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes, i dont think windows XP can support DirectX 11, the one i need.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
If my budget allows
Where are you buying your parts from?
newegg, frys or tomshardware
any help would be appreciated
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On August 10 2011 02:58 Dragom wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I dont think u guys noticed the first post, os il psot again.
What is your budget?
$500-$750
What is your resolution?
1 monitor 1280- 1024 pixels
What are you using it for?
Gaming(Think the HD 5850 should be good), Watching HD video's, movies, photoediting
What is your upgrade cycle?
As long as possible( or around 4-6 years)
When do you plan on building it?
Soon prob this month
Do you plan on overclocking?
Yes, if i need to b4 i get a new computor
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes, i dont think windows XP can support DirectX 11, the one i need.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
If my budget allows
Where are you buying your parts from?
newegg, frys or tomshardware
any help would be appreciated
Total: $593 before mail in rebates.
Not overclockable, not multi-GPU ready. Your budget allows neither of these unless you want to skimp on components and is highly unnecessary at such a pitiful resolution.
Core i5 2400 @ $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074
Asrock H61M-vS @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241
Sapphire Radeon HD5670 @ $65 ($50 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102930
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Crucial 2x2GB 1333MHz @ $25
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148418
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Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB @ $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
Antec Earthwatts 430D @ $44
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371034
Thermaltake V3 @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133094
DVD Burner @ $19
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136238
Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986
The difference is primarily phases and connectivity. ASUS P8P67 Pro and Deluxe also offers an Advanced RMA option.
Microcenter has the purchase a core i5 2500k (or any other Sandybridge processor) and get $40 off motherboard) promotion running currently: http://www.microcenter.com/specials/promotions/save40_promo.html
The $120 motherboard I linked is the ASUS P8P67: http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0364220
Whatever you do, just don't get the ASUS P8P67 LE. It's a garbage board.
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@skyr, i wish to have a motherboard with 4 RAM slots, since 4x2 GB RAM cards tends to cost a lot less then 2 x4 GB RAM cards. would the
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157256be a good choice( it seems obviously superior to the one you gave me, and paying an extra 10 bucks isnt that bad)?
Edit: R U SERIOUS? THAT ONE JUST GOT DEACTIVATED!!!! oh well, ill take the recommended one u guys gave me then.
Btw, how come the Graphics card says DDR3 instead of the normal GDDRsomething?
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On August 10 2011 03:35 Dragom wrote:
Btw, how come the Graphics card says DDR3 instead of the normal GDDRsomething?
Because the lower end cards do not need the memory bandwidth provided by GDDR5 so manufacturers save on costs by using DDR3.
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@ skyr, the computer case says it only has 2 USB front ports, but it doesnt say anything about back ports. 2 usb ports is like useless since the mouse takes up 1 usb port, and if the one of them malfunctions.....
Edit: the reviews also say its pretty thin , im pretty clumsy, so im afraid ill damage it. would the Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case be a better alternative(albeit slightly more costly)
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The Asrock H61M-VS makes mention that it has six USB ports at the rear and has four front panel headers for front USB.
Rear = Back.
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On August 10 2011 05:04 Dragom wrote:
@ skyr, the computer case says it only has 2 USB front ports, but it doesnt say anything about back ports. 2 usb ports is like useless since the mouse takes up 1 usb port, and if the one of them malfunctions.....
Your motherboard will have plenty of USB ports (depending on which one you get but normally you will have a minimum of 4) which will be at the back and the front ports on your case are extras that you plug into your motherboard
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Hello, I'm planning to buy a new pc this week. I want it for gaming at 1080 at ultra ideally, or very high (SC2, and if possible BF3). No plans on OC now, nor crossfire/sli, but would like to have the option.
From what I read here, I understand that I would need something like a i5 2500k and gtx 560 ti. Now, I'm not sure about the mobo, and dont live on usa, so if someone can advice me considering this place as reference, I would appreciate it. My budget it is about $1500 (no OS, I have a monitor). Thanks in advance.
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On August 10 2011 05:12 skyR wrote:
The Asrock H61M-VS makes mention that it has six USB ports at the rear and has four front panel headers for front USB.
Rear = Back.
Yes, but the computer case does not mention if it has any openings that allow all the ports to be usable...
On August 10 2011 05:13 juanemma wrote:Hello, I'm planning to buy a new pc this week. I want it for gaming at 1080 at ultra ideally, or very high (SC2, and if possible BF3). No plans on OC now, nor crossfire/sli, but would like to have the option. From what I read here, I understand that I would need something like a i5 2500k and gtx 560 ti. Now, I'm not sure about the mobo, and dont live on usa, so if someone can advice me considering this place as reference, I would appreciate it. My budget it is about $1500 (no OS, I have a monitor). Thanks in advance.
Wow, lol, You have a pretty high budget.
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