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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
August 09 2011 20:25 GMT
#9381
On August 10 2011 05:22 Dragom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 05:12 skyR wrote:
The Asrock H61M-VS makes mention that it has six USB ports at the rear and has four front panel headers for front USB.

Rear = Back.


Yes, but the computer case does not mention if it has any openings that allow all the ports to be usable...


It's next to the Ethernet and back panel audio ports, etc. Every case has room for that whole section to be usable? I'm kind of confused what you're asking about. All motherboard ports are always available on every case I've ever seen, unless maybe you're talking about fat connectors blocking adjacent ones.
GFLOW
Profile Joined November 2010
United States48 Posts
August 09 2011 20:51 GMT
#9382
@ skyR you suggested the:
Sapphire Radeon HD6870 @ $175 ($155 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948

My friend at lunch said he likes nVidia over Radeon. What are your thoughts? I personally don't have a preference.
Nestle
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 21:05:47
August 09 2011 20:52 GMT
#9383
So I've been researching for a while and looking to build my first ever computer later on this year so please bear with me if i may seem nooby. Now to answer the questions:

What is your budget?
-My budget will be around $1000- $1300 depending on whether or not how much I can get for my current laptop and desktop

What is your resolution?
-Current monitor support a resolution of 1400x900 but will look into a bigger monitor later

What are you using it for?
-Gaming! To be able to set all current games and future games at max settings or at least high

What is your upgrade cycle?
-I guess I will look to upgrade every 2 years? again i'm a beginner so I am not confident upgrading often until I am more proficient.

When do you plan on building it?
-Looking to build it sometime later this year around October-November

Do you plan on overclocking?
-No experience with overclocking but looking for parts compatible with overclocking for future usage

Do you need an Operating System?
-Yes, I will need Windows 7

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
-No

Where are you buying your parts from?
-Hmmm I guess cheapest place possible? Most likely will buy from Newegg or Bestbuy

So hope this is everything u guys need to help me out! Thank you all for the help!
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 20:55:43
August 09 2011 20:55 GMT
#9384
@Nestle: Ask when you're actually planning to build. Prices change, new things come out, etc.

And Best Buy != cheap.
Dragom
Profile Joined December 2010
194 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 21:10:40
August 09 2011 21:08 GMT
#9385
On August 10 2011 05:25 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 05:22 Dragom wrote:
On August 10 2011 05:12 skyR wrote:
The Asrock H61M-VS makes mention that it has six USB ports at the rear and has four front panel headers for front USB.

Rear = Back.


Yes, but the computer case does not mention if it has any openings that allow all the ports to be usable...


It's next to the Ethernet and back panel audio ports, etc. Every case has room for that whole section to be usable? I'm kind of confused what you're asking about. All motherboard ports are always available on every case I've ever seen, unless maybe you're talking about fat connectors blocking adjacent ones.


does that mean i dont have to buy any USB hubs ? o.o

srry, i really dont know these things.
"The second thing to go is your memory...ergh, I can't remember what the first thing is..."
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 21:10:45
August 09 2011 21:10 GMT
#9386
On August 10 2011 06:08 Dragom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 05:25 Myrmidon wrote:
On August 10 2011 05:22 Dragom wrote:
On August 10 2011 05:12 skyR wrote:
The Asrock H61M-VS makes mention that it has six USB ports at the rear and has four front panel headers for front USB.

Rear = Back.


Yes, but the computer case does not mention if it has any openings that allow all the ports to be usable...


It's next to the Ethernet and back panel audio ports, etc. Every case has room for that whole section to be usable? I'm kind of confused what you're asking about. All motherboard ports are always available on every case I've ever seen, unless maybe you're talking about fat connectors blocking adjacent ones.


does that mean i dont have to buy any USB hubs to use the rest of the ports that the motherboard suppports ? o.o


The motherboard back panel will have a number of USB ports, and the motherboard itself will also have USB headers, which you can connect to USB expansion cards if you need or want more ports. Those headers are also what you connect the front panel USB ports to. The exact specifics of your motherboard back panel will vary from model to model.

It's fairly rare to need more USB than you can get, on a desktop.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 09 2011 21:22 GMT
#9387
On August 10 2011 05:51 skip89w6 wrote:
@ skyR you suggested the:
Sapphire Radeon HD6870 @ $175 ($155 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948

My friend at lunch said he likes nVidia over Radeon. What are your thoughts? I personally don't have a preference.


I have no preference. It's up to the individual whether they want AMD or Nvidia. The Nvidia equivalent to the Radeon HD6870 is the GTX 560 which is a little more expensive but offers similar performance.
GFLOW
Profile Joined November 2010
United States48 Posts
August 09 2011 21:37 GMT
#9388
@ skyR I'm always down with less expensive. I think I'll pull the trigger on the Radeon. Thank you for all your help today.
CuraOh
Profile Joined November 2010
Chile81 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 00:24:34
August 09 2011 23:39 GMT
#9389
@juanemma
Cooler Master 912 HAF
http://www.h3hardware.com/detalle_producto.php?codigo=2430 $88
GSkill DDR3 2x2Gb 1333Mhz
http://www.h3hardware.com/detalle_producto.php?codigo=2375 $59
Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1Gb GDDR5
http://www.h3hardware.com/detalle_producto.php?codigo=2354 $290
DVDRW LITE-ON 22x Sata OEM
http://www.h3hardware.com/detalle_producto.php?codigo=1884 $30
Western Digital 1Tb 64Mb Buffer Sata3
http://www.h3hardware.com/detalle_producto.php?codigo=2228 $120
Asus P8H67-V Rev. B3 H67 Sata3 USB3
http://www.h3hardware.com/detalle_producto.php?codigo=2447 $160
Intel Core i5 2400 3.1Ghz QPI 5GT/s 6Mb Cache
http://www.h3hardware.com/detalle_producto.php?codigo=2442 $265
total $1012
con tu presupuesto te recomiendo overclockear te cuesta mas $133
+ Show Spoiler +

tienes que cambiar la placa madre y el cpu y agregar este ventilador
Asus P8P67-M Rev. B3 P67 Sata3 USB3
http://www.h3hardware.com/detalle_producto.php?codigo=2438 $190
Intel Core i5 2500K 3.3Ghz QPI 5GT/s 6Mb Cache
http://www.h3hardware.com/detalle_producto.php?codigo=2422 $320
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus
http://www.h3hardware.com/detalle_producto.php?codigo=2434 $48
total $1145
tambien puedes agregar otro par de memorias para tener 8gb

si puedes pasar otra pagina donde comprar para buscar mejores componente o mejores precio y donde encontrar la fuente de poder que es lo que faltaria
cualquier cosa pregunta

si yo tuviera tu presupuesto compraria las cosas en usa y a traves de un servicio de casilla en miami las podrias recibir en argentina pagando los impuesto correpondientes
si nesesitas asesoria en eso yo te puedo ayudar
por ejemplo
+ Show Spoiler +

en argentina comprar el disco duro (para mantener la garantia),el lector (da igual comprarlo en argentina o en usa )el gabinete (sale mas caro traerlo por que pesa mucho)
y el resto en amazon,
por que amazon ?
por que es uno de los pocos que se puede comprar con una visa o mastercard con un billing adress distinta a la shiping adress (lugar donde llega lo que compras o sea tu casilla)

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Z68A-D3-B3-Intel-Motherboard-GA-Z68A-D3-B3/dp/B00518M78O/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I1XNGPRZ95W0SR&colid=1A9KO725W5OGQ
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-2500K-Processor-3-3GHz-LGA1155/dp/B004EBUXHQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312934222&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10-212P-G1/dp/B002G1YPH0/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1312934222&sr=8-3
http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-DL-DVI-I-SL-DVI-D-PCI-Express-100315L/dp/B0047ZGIUK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312934160&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Technology-1333MHz-KHX1333C9D3B1K2-8G/dp/B004DDI0IE/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1312934589&sr=1-4

cuesta $565 aprox con 8 gigas de memorias
el envio de estos componentes cuesta aprox entre 60 y 100 dolares dependiendo del peso
y a esto le sumas el impuesto que no se como seria en argentina a lo mejor es gratis(en chile tengo que pagar el un 20% mas)
en comparacion con lo mismo en argentina te cuesta $907
ademas compras una fuente de buena calidad

XFX PRO450W Core Edition Full Wired 80+ Bronze Power Supply
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004RJ8EIA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER $62

y te alcansa para un ssd
Crucial 128 GB m4 SATA 6Gb/s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive
http://www.amazon.com/Lexar-Media-Crucial-2-5-Inch-CT128M4SSD2/dp/B004W2JKZI/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3UO0LPTK89197&colid=1A9KO725W5OGQ $220



saludos

the price are in argentina and theres a little option for the components
naolin
Profile Joined March 2011
United States81 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 02:02:58
August 10 2011 02:02 GMT
#9390
On August 09 2011 16:44 Myrmidon wrote:
Okay, the i7-2600 has three advantages over the i5-2500:
(1) 100 MHz higher speed (lol)
(2) 2MB more L3 cache (8MB vs. 6MB, which makes little difference)
(3) hyperthreading, which can provide maybe 30% performance boost in the best-case scenario, but ONLY for things that you aren't doing with the computer

So feel free to spend $100 extra on about 3% extra performance?

Why get a H67 motherboard unless you really want to maximize the performance of your SATA3 SSD...which you don't have?

Trust me, the XFX Core 450W isn't going to be bothered by power consumption in the 50-300W range, where you'll never reach 300W unless you overclock the GTX 560 Ti and purposefully try to max out power consumption. The 650W unit is a somewhat better design, but seems overkill?

If you want to spend the rest of the budget, I'd change the CPU and PSU and pick up a Crucial M4 64GB SSD:
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=60444


So what kind of motherboard should i be looking for?

SkyR recommended an h61 or H67 if i wasn't overclocking

+ Show Spoiler +
There's not much to do with such a large budget if you're not going to overclock. Dual monitors doesn't matter for the configuration unless you plan on doing Eyefinity which doesn't make sense since you'll be playing off center or playing with a bezel in the center. The second monitor having the desktop on it with instant messaging, browsing, and other desktop applications has no effect on performance.

Here's a configuration for $833 capable of playing current and upcoming games on reasonably high settings at 1080p:

Core i5 2500k @ $220
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

EVGA GTX 560 Ti -AR @ $240 ($215 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604

Asrock P67 Pro3 @ $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

Corsair 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $49
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233192

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB @ $50 (not sure how long this sale will last, regular price is usually $60)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

XFX Core Edition Pro 450 @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

Xigmatek Gaia @ $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082

DVD Burner @ $19
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136238



If you don't want to overclock than just remove the Xigmatek Gaia, replace the Asrock P67 Pro with a H61 or H67 motherboard such as the Asrock H61M U3S3, and replace the Core i5 2500k for a regular core i5 2500 with no suffix or a core i5 2400. This would take about $80 off the total.
Gattaca.usa
Profile Joined October 2010
131 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 06:00:49
August 10 2011 05:07 GMT
#9391
Microcenter has the purchase a core i5 2500k (or any other Sandybridge processor) and get $40 off motherboard) promotion running currently: http://www.microcenter.com/specials/promotions/save40_promo.html


I WISH I LIVED NEAR A MICROCENTER /cry
naolin
Profile Joined March 2011
United States81 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 05:41:13
August 10 2011 05:40 GMT
#9392
Alright, i'm almost ready to buy, i''ve modified my build based on some of your suggestions, any further advice will be appreciated, is there anything on here that looks like it woulnd't be compatible. This is with the $50 assembly fee and Windows 7 included, Total comes out to 997.09 USD BEFORE mail in rebates.

Any more help would be appreciated, also anyone done the assembly with NCIX, first time dealing with them.

Coolermaster Haf 912 Black Mid Tower ATX Case 4X5.25 1X3.5 6X3.5INT No PS Front USB Sound - $59.98
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=55583

Corsair CMSO8GX3M2A1333C9 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1333 CL9-9-9-24 204PIN SODIMM Memory Kit $55.03
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=47188

Western Digital WD Caviar Blue 1TB SATA 6GB/S 7200RPM 32MB Cache 3.5IN Hard Drive OEM $66.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=58881

LG GH24LS70 24X SATA Lightscribe Internal DVD Writer Burner DVDRW Optical Drive Black OEM $21.15
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=60680

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 560 Ti Fermi 900MHZ 1GB 4.0GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI Mini HDMI DIRECTX11 PCI-E Video Card $229.99 - 199.99 after mail in rebates
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=58366&promoid=1307

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT DVD OEM $119.98
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=45271

XFX 650W PRO650W Core Edition Single Rail ATX 12V 53A 24PIN ATX Power Supply 80PLUS Bronze PSU - $85.30 - 65.32 after mail in rebate
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=45271

PC Assembly and Testing With 1 Year Limited NCIX System Warranty (PRE-CONFIG WIN. OS If Purchased)
$41.09 (bundle descount)
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=7842

Intel Core i5 2500 Quad Core Processor LGA1155 3.3GHZ Sandy Bridge 6MB
$223.14
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=57963

ASUS P8H67-M LE REV3.0 mATX LGA1155 PCI-E16 PCI-E4 2PCI DVI HDMI VGA Sandy Bridge B3 Motherboard $97.52
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=59326

skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 10 2011 05:57 GMT
#9393
I don't know why you're not taking advantage of sale pricing?

Mushkin 2x4GB: http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=55544&promoid=1307
DVD Burner: http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=60344&promoid=1307
HAF 912: http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1307
Windows 7: http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1307
Core i5 2500k: http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1307

The core i5 2500k is cheaper so you may as well...

Not sure what you plan on doing with a 650w power supply when your board isn't capable of overclocking or SLI.
naolin
Profile Joined March 2011
United States81 Posts
August 10 2011 05:58 GMT
#9394
On August 10 2011 14:57 skyR wrote:
I don't know why you're not taking advantage of sale pricing?

Mushkin 2x4GB: http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=55544&promoid=1307
DVD Burner: http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=60344&promoid=1307
HAF 912: http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1307
Windows 7: http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1307
Core i5 2500k: http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1307

The core i5 2500k is cheaper so you may as well...

Not sure what you plan on doing with a 650w power supply when your board isn't capable of overclocking or SLI.


because i was being dumb and using the CAN site thanks! im going to start building it on the US site with this items
naolin
Profile Joined March 2011
United States81 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 06:12:45
August 10 2011 06:12 GMT
#9395
Alright so Take 2, now i only need help on the mother board, any suggestions? so far this is $830 US with $50 assembly and Windows 7

Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 8GB 2X4GB PC3-10666 DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit
NCIXUS.com SURPRISE SPECIALS! $45.04

Samsung DVDRW 22X SATA Black OEM $19.01

Coolermaster Haf 912 Black Mid Tower ATX Case 4X5.25 1X3.5 6X3.5INT No PS Front USB Sound $55.05

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT DVD OEM
$98.09

Intel Core i5 2500K Quad Core Unlocked Processor LGA1155 3.3GHZ Sandy Bridge 6MB $210.20

Western Digital WD Caviar Blue 1TB SATA 6GB/S 7200RPM 32MB Cache 3.5IN Hard Drive OEM $67.06

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 560 Ti Fermi 900MHZ 1GB 4.0GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI Mini HDMI DIRECTX11 PCI-E Video Card
NCIXUS.com SURPRISE SPECIALS! $230.22 $230.22

PC Assembly and Testing With 1 Year Limited NCIX System Warranty (PRE-CONFIG WIN. OS If Purchased) $50.05

XFX 450W PRO450W Core Edition Single Rail ATX 12V 34A 24PIN ATX Power Supply 80PLUS Bronze - $55.36
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 10 2011 06:17 GMT
#9396
Well new sale starts in like 19 hours so you may want to just keep stuff in your cart and wait until the sale to see if anything worthwhile pops up.
naolin
Profile Joined March 2011
United States81 Posts
August 10 2011 06:18 GMT
#9397
On August 10 2011 15:17 skyR wrote:
Well new sale starts in like 19 hours so you may want to just keep stuff in your cart and wait until the sale to see if anything worthwhile pops up.


ok, the mother board is the thing that I'm completely lost on, what kind of motherboard will I be looking for?
CuraOh
Profile Joined November 2010
Chile81 Posts
August 10 2011 06:21 GMT
#9398
Gigabyte Z68A-D3-B3 ATX LGA1155 Z68 DDR3 2PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 2PCI SATA3 USB3.0 $125
http://www.ncixus.com/products/62006/GA-Z68A-D3-B3/Gigabyte/

Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink $30
http://www.ncixus.com/products/41337/RR-B10-212P-G1/COOLERMASTER/

and you could overlock if you want to
naolin
Profile Joined March 2011
United States81 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 06:25:24
August 10 2011 06:25 GMT
#9399
On August 10 2011 15:21 CuraOh wrote:
Gigabyte Z68A-D3-B3 ATX LGA1155 Z68 DDR3 2PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 2PCI SATA3 USB3.0 $125
http://www.ncixus.com/products/62006/GA-Z68A-D3-B3/Gigabyte/

Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink $30
http://www.ncixus.com/products/41337/RR-B10-212P-G1/COOLERMASTER/

and you could overlock if you want to


if I don't plan on overclocking right now I don't need the Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink right, or should i get it anyways?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 10 2011 06:25 GMT
#9400
If you don't care about USB3 or SATA3 than just get some H61 motherboard: http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=59106

If you want SATA3 than get some H67 board: http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=59419&promoid=1307

If you want USB3 than get some board with USB3: http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=62305

Since the core i5 2500k is currently less expensive than the core i5 2500, you may want a Z68 board just so you can overclock if you wanted to: http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=62697

I guess you can get a core i5 2400 for $8 less if you don't mind it being 300MHz slower: http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=57964
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