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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
BetaWolf
Profile Joined June 2011
United States39 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 23:56:27
July 04 2011 23:55 GMT
#7901
I am building my first gaming compute and this is what I have.
MoBo
CPU
Graphics Card
RAM
Power Supply
HardDrive
Case

with those, a monitor, dvd burner, and windows it comes to $1,049.90. Are all the parts compatible and will 750w be enough? also will I need to buy a heat sink if I don't plan on overclocking?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 00:00:27
July 04 2011 23:59 GMT
#7902
On July 05 2011 08:55 Killamancer wrote:
I am building my first gaming compute and this is what I have.
MoBo
CPU
Graphics Card
RAM
Power Supply
HardDrive
Case

with those, a monitor, dvd burner, and windows it comes to $1,049.90. Are all the parts compatible and will 750w be enough? also will I need to buy a heat sink if I don't plan on overclocking?


In other news, throwing money at random larger numbers doesn't make a better PC.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/129

That benchmark shows a whole lot of considerably cheaper to same priced Intel CPU's wrecking the shit out of that AMD hex core.

Get an i5 2400 and an H61/H67 mobo, depending on the features you need.

And that is a metric asston more PSU than you need, 500W will be more than enough. You don't need an aftermarket heatsink, no.
alepov
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands1132 Posts
July 05 2011 00:00 GMT
#7903
Question: The HD6950 scores better in most benchmarks than the 560GTX TI, and costs only 10 euro more. Why did you guys recommend the 560GTX most of the time in this price range?
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 05 2011 00:02 GMT
#7904
On July 05 2011 09:00 alepov wrote:
Question: The HD6950 scores better in most benchmarks than the 560GTX TI, and costs only 10 euro more. Why did you guys recommend the 560GTX most of the time in this price range?


Actually, they're fairly comparable in some, and each take others by a fair margin. Given that both are overkill for SC2, the cheaper is plenty unless they have some specific needs.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/293?vs=330

Also, the 560Ti OC's insanely well.
alepov
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands1132 Posts
July 05 2011 00:06 GMT
#7905
Wow thanks for quick reply =)
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 05 2011 00:17 GMT
#7906
On July 05 2011 09:00 alepov wrote:
Question: The HD6950 scores better in most benchmarks than the 560GTX TI, and costs only 10 euro more. Why did you guys recommend the 560GTX most of the time in this price range?


The GTX 560 Ti is recommended simply because it performs similar to the Radeon HD6950 1GB variant but is less expensive. Not to mention that EVGA's post-sale support is considered to be one of the very best in the industry and that there is a lack of 6950 1GB variants (ex. MSI Twin Frozr II, Gigabyte SOC).
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 05 2011 00:35 GMT
#7907
On July 05 2011 08:55 Killamancer wrote:
I am building my first gaming compute and this is what I have. + Show Spoiler +

MoBo
CPU
Graphics Card
RAM
Power Supply
HardDrive
Case

with those, a monitor, dvd burner, and windows it comes to $1,049.90. Are all the parts compatible and will 750w be enough? also will I need to buy a heat sink if I don't plan on overclocking?


Along the lines of what JingleHell said...

Core i5-2400 - $181 after promo code (ends 7/5)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

Gigabyte GTX 560 - $190, $170 after mail-in rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125383

AsRock H61M-VS - $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241

G.Skill 2 x 4GB DDR3 RAM - $55 after promo code (ends 7/6)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311

Rosewill Green Series 430W - $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182202

If you would like USB3, or SATA3, or more PCI/PCIe slots on the motherboard, feel free to get something more expensive, but otherwise it's probably not worth paying for features you won't use. The HD 6850 is a decent pick, but the GTX 560 is a little faster and probably a little better value. The power supply above is okay but nothing special. With 396W on +12V it's a lot more powerful than you need, but it's one of the cheapest decent options. It also has 6 molex connectors; you'll need to use 2 of them through an adapter that comes with the GTX 560 to fill the second PCIe power plug requirement.
BetaWolf
Profile Joined June 2011
United States39 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 01:06:22
July 05 2011 00:51 GMT
#7908
On July 05 2011 08:59 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 08:55 Killamancer wrote:
I am building my first gaming compute and this is what I have.
MoBo
CPU
Graphics Card
RAM
Power Supply
HardDrive
Case

with those, a monitor, dvd burner, and windows it comes to $1,049.90. Are all the parts compatible and will 750w be enough? also will I need to buy a heat sink if I don't plan on overclocking?


In other news, throwing money at random larger numbers doesn't make a better PC.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/129

That benchmark shows a whole lot of considerably cheaper to same priced Intel CPU's wrecking the shit out of that AMD hex core.

Get an i5 2400 and an H61/H67 mobo, depending on the features you need.

And that is a metric asston more PSU than you need, 500W will be more than enough. You don't need an aftermarket heatsink, no.


Thanks for the fast reply. Here is what I changed after your suggestions

MoBo
CPU
Power Supply

Since i'm new at this, i'm not sure if that's a good MoBo. Will it fit in the case and will the ram work with it or will I have to use ddr3 1333?

EDIT: I didn't notice your post Myrmidon. Ill check that out
EDIT2: Can you recommend a MoBo with more PCIe slots? I plan on adding a video capture card.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 01:33:44
July 05 2011 01:33 GMT
#7909
The RAM will just downclock itself, no worries. Faster than 1333 is fairly minute difference anyways, and those sorts of gains are barely productive if you aren't trying to squeeze the last drop of performance out. Makes more difference for archiving/encoding, but still not huge compared to more CPU.

I'm really terrible at keeping track of the safe lower end mobos, though, so I'll leave that one to Myrm/skyR/Wom.
BetaWolf
Profile Joined June 2011
United States39 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 03:00:43
July 05 2011 01:48 GMT
#7910
Thanks for all the help everyone, here's what have.

CPU
RAM
PowerSupply
Graphics Card
Hard Drive
Case
DVD Burner
MoBo

Is everything compatible and should I buy this?
Leeto
Profile Joined August 2007
United States1320 Posts
July 05 2011 04:39 GMT
#7911
Quick question: If you have a Z68 board, an Intel processor with built-in graphics, and a discrete graphics card, can you plug monitors into both the GPU and the motherboard at the same time? What would happen in that case?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 05 2011 04:59 GMT
#7912
On July 05 2011 13:39 Leeto wrote:
Quick question: If you have a Z68 board, an Intel processor with built-in graphics, and a discrete graphics card, can you plug monitors into both the GPU and the motherboard at the same time? What would happen in that case?


Yes, you can use both the discrete graphics card ports and IGP ports. Virtu would switch between the IGP and discrete graphics card depending on the task at hand, so idling at desktop = IGP, gaming = discrete.
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 05:59:44
July 05 2011 05:57 GMT
#7913
Hey guys, just wondering if this build checks out, or if there's anything I can do to improve it. My budget is $900. I'm looking for this to last 3-4 years~

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ar/kEF/
ABCDEF
Profile Joined July 2011
7 Posts
July 05 2011 05:57 GMT
#7914
Do i need any extra case fans for this case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119240

let me know before I purchase my build thanks :D
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
July 05 2011 06:05 GMT
#7915
On July 05 2011 14:57 ABCDEF wrote:
Do i need any extra case fans for this case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119240

let me know before I purchase my build thanks :D


No, it comes with everyone you need. It doesn't have a top fan but you don't need it.


On July 05 2011 14:57 dnastyx wrote:
Hey guys, just wondering if this build checks out, or if there's anything I can do to improve it. My budget is $900. I'm looking for this to last 3-4 years~

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ar/kEF/


Get this power supply instead because you aren't going to use 600W:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012&Tpk=450W Core

Is there any reason for getting a Z68 motherboard? If not, just get this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230&cm_re=Asrock_Pro3-_-13-157-230-_-Product

It'll even have uEFI which Gigabyte motherboards don't have.
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 06:46:31
July 05 2011 06:45 GMT
#7916
On July 05 2011 15:05 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 14:57 dnastyx wrote:
Hey guys, just wondering if this build checks out, or if there's anything I can do to improve it. My budget is $900. I'm looking for this to last 3-4 years~

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ar/kEF/


Get this power supply instead because you aren't going to use 600W:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012&Tpk=450W Core

Is there any reason for getting a Z68 motherboard? If not, just get this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230&cm_re=Asrock_Pro3-_-13-157-230-_-Product

It'll even have uEFI which Gigabyte motherboards don't have.


I was thinking of the 600w PSU in case I wanted to add another HD or video card somewhere down the line.

I did switch to the mobo you suggested though.

The last change I'm thinking of making is grabbing a GTX 560 Ti instead, so my build would look something like this:

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ar/kME

Thanks for the feedback! As a first time builder, it helps.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 06:59:11
July 05 2011 06:57 GMT
#7917
Well your choice what GPU you get. Look at benchmarks and determine from there.

A 600W PSU is only going to be useful if you use two GPUs - hard disks use an inconsequential amount of power. Crossfire/SLI is a bad upgrade strategy.

Northern Islands, AMD's 28nm GPU with a whole new architecture, is coming out to consumers extremely soon - within the end of the year possibly. The current 11.7 Catalyst drivers already have the next generation GPU instruction sets within them.

Tesla and Southern Islands have already been taped out and are going to be better than any last generation GPU in Crossfire/SLI. So why bother dealing with SLI/Crossfire if you're not going to buy two cards close to immediately?
alepov
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands1132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 16:54:33
July 05 2011 16:07 GMT
#7918
http://azerty.nl/0-1073-398419/xfx-core-edition-pro550w-voe.html
or
http://azerty.nl/0-1073-90497/ocz-modxstream-pro-voeding-.html ?
(or some other psu?)

Cos I saw you recommending the xfx one in this price range, in this thread. But I've had feedback from a lot of people and a guy that works in hardware store told me the ocz one is a much better buy. Do you disagree on that? Why?
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
mous
Profile Joined September 2010
15 Posts
July 05 2011 16:46 GMT
#7919
Guys I'm going to buy a new pc, and my budget is around 700$. The problem is I don't have that much knowledge so I was wondering if you guys could help me out. I want to at least play and stream sc2 at high graphics, with 1440x900 resolution.

VGA I really want a nvidia card, but if it's really suicide I wil go with an ati, I was thinking about the GTX 560 (not sure if there is a huge difference between this and the Ti version)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125383&cm_re=geforce_gtx_560-_-14-125-383-_-Product

CPU intel, I don't intend to overclock, so I was thinking the i5-2500
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115073&cm_re=intel_i5_2500-_-19-115-073-_-Product

Harddisk, I really want to have at least 1TB, PSU I was thinking about the XFX Core 450W, I think 450W should be enough, not sure though if you guys recommend another VGA...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012&cm_re=xfx_core_edition-_-17-207-012-_-Product

I do need a case, but no operating system.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 05 2011 17:15 GMT
#7920
@alepov

The OCZ ModXStream Pro is not bad at all, but the XFX is better aside from having non-modular cables (if that's a plus to you). Corsair CX V2 is also acceptable and cheaper, though less reliable long-term than the XFX unit.

@mous

Both the GTX 560 and GTX 560 Ti are priced fairly relative to each other and to AMD products. That Gigabyte GTX 560 looks good. If you don't mind losing 200 MHz, the i5-2400 is $20 cheaper, about $30 cheaper after promo code if you order today. That power supply is plenty overkill for that configuration but a decent pick for the price.
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