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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 06 2011 06:55 ABCDEF wrote: that wasnt my question.. No, but if you're going to be a fucking baby about good advice, don't expect an answer. Don't post the build itself if you don't want people to give suggestions on it. That's what this thread is. | ||
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ABCDEF
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
amd x6 1055T (2.8GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket) EVGA GeForce GTX 460 SuperClocked Video Card - 1024MB GDDR5 4gb RAM DDR3 i dont know what other parts ill be getting yet but i figure that should be enough to get a rough estimate for streaming/playing quality for sc2. can anyone give me a quality range? | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 06 2011 09:15 JiYan wrote: building a comp and looking to stream once its built, i was wondering what settings this current (rough) build could stream at: amd x6 1055T (2.8GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket) EVGA GeForce GTX 460 SuperClocked Video Card - 1024MB GDDR5 4gb RAM DDR3 i dont know what other parts ill be getting yet but i figure that should be enough to get a rough estimate for streaming/playing quality for sc2. can anyone give me a quality range? AMD is currently a terrible choice Performance/$, you're better off with an i5 2500k. The architecture is massively superior, and you can OC it insanely on air cooling. Buy the non-overclocked card, and OC it yourself to save some money. It's easy, and you can DL EVGA's precision tool to do it. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/147?vs=288 The CPU's benched against eachother. On July 06 2011 07:32 ABCDEF wrote: I want the hyper 212 my question wasn't advice on my build I already got advice my question was what I posted if i wanted advice on my build i wouldve asked for it. Going by the nature of this thread, the question was implied, had you not chosen to react like a peeved twelve year old to my response, I'd consider answering the other question. Don't know why you'd complain about saving money on something with pretty much the exact same performance and a superior mounting system. | ||
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
i guess the main question in my post is what i could run with these parts. also, im curious if there is really a need for 8gb of RAM when im reading a lot of people are saying that 4gb should be fine for anything really. thanks though | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 06 2011 09:24 JiYan wrote: i already got the GTX 460 Superclocked from a deal for ~120 which i consider pretty good and i already have ordered a used amd x6 1055T for 120 as well. i guess the main question in my post is what i could run with these parts. also, im curious if there is really a need for 8gb of RAM when im reading a lot of people are saying that 4gb should be fine for anything really. thanks though You should be able to do reasonably well with them, but streaming is kind of a mileage may vary type thing. | ||
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 06 2011 09:27 JiYan wrote: sorry to bother, but reasonably well means nothing to me xD. are you talking about high settings sc2 streaming at 720p? idk I can't tell you for sure. If you already have the parts, just try and see? That's the best you can do anyways, since, like I said, mileage varies. Your stream shouldn't look like complete ass as long as you have decent upload. Specifics beyond that will kind of depend on other factors. | ||
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Exact details are going to depend on what's happening on screen, what codec you're using, the exact quality settings/resolution/fps, etc. However, I'd just set the stream resolution to half your monitor resolution (or rather, what resolution you're playing on, which hopefully should be the monitor's resolution), unless that is small, and then tweak quality settings and fps. That should keep text legible. Suffice to say, you will find some configuration that works reasonably well, with reasonably good picture quality, with a Phenom II X6. | ||
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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RabidSeagull
United States220 Posts
CASE http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153 POWER http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341018 SOUND http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829270006 HARD DRIVE http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697 MOTHERBOARD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130295 RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311 GRAPHICS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102941 CORE http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103942 MONITOR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009266 Can you guys tell me if this looks decent, specifically if the parts are compatible with each other and are going to work well, any way to build a bit cheaper, etc | ||
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SonSon
United States106 Posts
Well I built my computer but the only gripe I have right now is that my SSD doesn't have a place to go. I put it in one of the hard drive internal bays and strapped it. Is this fine or is there something else I can do? This is my case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197 and this is my SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441 | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 06 2011 11:01 RabidSeagull wrote: Hey guys, I'm attempting to build my first computer, my buddy has a bit of knowledge about this type of stuff and helped me put together some parts on newegg. I'm planning on using it mainly for gaming but I'm not looking for anything too fancy. Here's the list we came up with, although it ended up being a bit more expensive than anticipated: CASE http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153 POWER http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341018 SOUND http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829270006 HARD DRIVE http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697 MOTHERBOARD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130295 RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311 GRAPHICS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102941 CORE http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103942 MONITOR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009266 Can you guys tell me if this looks decent, specifically if the parts are compatible with each other and are going to work well, any way to build a bit cheaper, etc The sound card isn't really needed unless you really want high quality, at which point that's probably not a good choice, onboard is good enough. The llano CPU isn't a good choice for a build with a discrete graphics card compared to an i3 2100 build on socket 1155 with an H61 or H67 mobo, depending on features needed. The PSU is beyond insanely overkill for the configuration, 450W will easily do it. On July 06 2011 11:04 0oZe wrote: Hi guys, Well I built my computer but the only gripe I have right now is that my SSD doesn't have a place to go. I put it in one of the hard drive internal bays and strapped it. Is this fine or is there something else I can do? This is my case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197 and this is my SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441 Just buy a 2.5" drive bay adapter. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811990004&cm_re=drive_bay_adapter-_-11-990-004-_-Product | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
I would seriously question your buddy's knowledge of computers. The AMD A8-3850 Llano is a FM1 processor. The motherboard you have selected is an AM3 motherboard. The two are not compatible with each other. An FM1 processor must go into an FM1 motherboard. There is also no point in buying a Llano if you are purchasing a discrete graphics card. The entire point of the Llano is for low-budget gamers who play at low resolutions and/or settings that won't be using a discrete graphics card but with it's current pricepoint, purchasing a desktop Llano doesn't make much sense. A core i3 2100: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078 and an H61 or H67 motherboard of some sort such as the Asrocck H61M U3S3 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236 ) is a much better choice for gaming. The performance difference between AMD and Intel processors can be clearly seen in many articles such as these: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3.html and http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/20 A Radeon HD5770 uses less than 100w while the core i3 2100 uses less than 50w, both under load. Even stronger processors such as the core i7 2600k uses less thaan 100 under load. So I seriously question the knowledge of your buddy. The 700w power supply is quite unnecessary as a non-overclocked low-end single graphics card configuration can get by with a ~400w power supply. A sound card is not necessary. The motherboard has integrated sound which is adequate for the majority of users. @0oZe That's fine. You can buy an 3.5" to 2.5" adapter if you really wanted to but it's fine to just tape it to the inside of your case if you're not going to move the case around. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
The motherboard and CPU aren't compatible with each other. The former is AM3, while the latter is a $95 CPU bundled with a $60 GPU on the FM1 socket. The motherboard already has an integrated sound chip, so a low-end discrete sound card is unnecessary unless you need additional audio ports, and the power supply is way overkill. You could also save by just getting 4GB of RAM, but that's a great price for 8GB so you might as well. To save money and get better gaming performance (and actually get parts that are compatible), I'd change the CPU, motherboard, and power supply to these and get rid of the sound card: Core i3-2100 and BioStar H61MH - $165 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.675362 Corsair CX430 V2 - $45, $25 AMIR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026 The HD 6770 is just a rebranded HD 5770, so that's not a particularly good (or bad) deal. | ||
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WayHeroic
United States111 Posts
Motherboard: Asrock H61M-VS Processor: i5-2400 Memory: 8gb (2x4GB) DDR3 1333 MHz G.Skill Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion Graphics Card: MSI R6850 1GB Thanks in advance | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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HuggyBear
Australia377 Posts
I'm helping a friend build a PC ($1.3k Budget), for gaming and uni work and I want to ask your opinions. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/TEHfY.jpg) We'll be buying most of the parts from PC Case Gear (http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php) Do you guys think there'd be enough room in the motherboard for the graphics card + a wireless network card? Oh and I know you'll torch me for picking a 2500 over a 2500k, but she doesn't know anything about overclocking hence the non-OC pick. We'll probably buy the OS from somewhere else so that's -$105 | ||
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