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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
ABCDEF
Profile Joined July 2011
7 Posts
July 04 2011 05:57 GMT
#7861
i changed my case to the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4176827&SID=1rlrekf637qxj

I got the xigmatek cpu cooler

and getting the 650 xfx core edition pro


now im going to hit the buy button thanks man :D
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 09:21:07
July 04 2011 09:19 GMT
#7862
Debating buying a new graphic card as a birthday present to myself (was going to buy a PS3 but I think I'd rather play nice PC games) since I inherited a larger monitor and my poor HD4650 is punching way above it's weight trying to run things in 1920 x 1080.

Looking at the GTX460, and the GTX560/Ti and the price range of the cards kinda confuses me slightly. I'm assuming the price differences is due to various after market cooling and overclocking added. But for example a GTX460 OC costs the same as a GTX560 so which one is "better"? Probably looking at this MSi GTX560Ti .

Another question, my mobo is a slightly old Gigabyte P35-S3G but from what I can tell it should support any of the above cards (it has 1xPCI-E x16 slot)? I also assume a Eathwatts 500W PSU should supply the juice needed.

ArchHydra
Profile Joined November 2010
8 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 10:41:06
July 04 2011 09:38 GMT
#7863
Hello guys, I am going to buy a new computer very soon, and it's main purpose will be gaming. My budget is 1000€, I play on a 1680x1050 resolution, but I might eventually upgrade to something higher.

It is the first time I'm building a computer rather than buying a pre-made one, so would love any advice if the parts are worth the cost, if I should replace anything, if everything is compatible and similar issues.

This is what I have planned so far:

Motherboard: P67 Extreme4 B3 @139.00€
http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/P67-EXTREME4-B3

CPU: Core i5 2500K @189.00€
http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/BX80623I52500K

Video Card: AMD Radeon HD 6870 @164.00€
http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/11179-09-20G

RAM: 2x4GB Dual Kit DDR3-1600 Ripjaws @2x49.00€
http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL

Hard Drive: 1TB SpinPoint F3 @49.40€
http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/HD103SJ

SSD: 40GB 320 Series @86.00€
http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/SSDSA2CT040G3K5

Power supply: 650TX 650W @79.00€
http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/CMPSU-650TXV2EU

Case: HAF 922 Midtower @127.00€
http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/RC922M-KKN1-GP

Optical Drive @22.00€
http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/SH-222AB/BEBE

Total Cost: 953.40€

I will be buying the parts from www.jimms.fi.

EDIT: price change on the motherboard.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 10:58:24
July 04 2011 10:46 GMT
#7864
If you aren't going to run two graphics cards immediately or close to immediately, drop down to this motherboard:
http://www.jimms.fi/tuoteinfo/P67-PRO3-B3?pid=1309776152190

If you are only going to run a single GPU, you don't need a 650W power supply:
http://www.jimms.fi/tuoteinfo/P1-450S-XXB9?pid=1309776325091

Since you're getting a P67 motherboard and a unlocked processor, you probably want a CPU cooler when you overclock:
http://www.jimms.fi/tuoteinfo/RR-B10-212P-GP?pid=1309777076279
ArchHydra
Profile Joined November 2010
8 Posts
July 04 2011 12:07 GMT
#7865
Thanks for the advice Womwomwom, this thread is so good.
staples2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States216 Posts
July 04 2011 13:59 GMT
#7866
I am looking to build a desktop in the next 3-6 months (D3 and HoTS). My thoughts at this point are the i5 2500k and a moderate overclock. I want to be able to run at max settings on 1920x1080 and have a second monitor for other stuff (vent, itunes, web etc) Price range is about $1000 for the rig. I need a case and win7 but don't count win7 in my price range.
Air Force Mission: Kill people and break their shit
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 04 2011 13:59 GMT
#7867
On July 04 2011 22:59 Staples1 wrote:
I am looking to build a desktop in the next 3-6 months (D3 and HoTS). My thoughts at this point are the i5 2500k and a moderate overclock. I want to be able to run at max settings on 1920x1080 and have a second monitor for other stuff (vent, itunes, web etc) Price range is about $1000 for the rig. I need a case and win7 but don't count win7 in my price range.


Ask when you're ready to build.
Zyferous
Profile Joined September 2010
United States270 Posts
July 04 2011 15:34 GMT
#7868
I recently ordered a bunch of parts for a new computer, but I am unsure of how good the GPU is.

I bought a Nvidia GeForce 550Ti, which is supposedly a mid-tier GPU. My question is, how well would it be able to run SC2, [upcoming] Diablo 3, and the like?

My other system specs are:
Intel Core i7 2600
8 GB RAM
60 GB SSD (Used as a cache to speed up actual HDD)

Sorry if this is the wrong place to post, I didn't want to open a new thread for this question
Jaedong forever.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 04 2011 15:42 GMT
#7869
On July 05 2011 00:34 Zyferous wrote:
I recently ordered a bunch of parts for a new computer, but I am unsure of how good the GPU is.

I bought a Nvidia GeForce 550Ti, which is supposedly a mid-tier GPU. My question is, how well would it be able to run SC2, [upcoming] Diablo 3, and the like?

My other system specs are:
Intel Core i7 2600
8 GB RAM
60 GB SSD (Used as a cache to speed up actual HDD)

Sorry if this is the wrong place to post, I didn't want to open a new thread for this question


You bought an i7 2600 and a 550Ti? The GPU isn't terrible, but it's going to bottleneck your CPU pretty effectively.

Resolution will matter, but Blizzard doesn't tend to go nuts on graphics, so you should be able to play at decent settings.
alepov
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands1132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 15:49:09
July 04 2011 15:45 GMT
#7870
Hi, I'm gonna be using my pc for gaming and streaming. Have a samsung 206bw monitor atm (1680 x 1050) and might be using dual monitors and/or upgrade later on to one of those 120hz monitors like LG W2363D (1920x1080) or something along those lines.
I'm not planning on overclocking and I don't upgrade regularly.

Got this so far. Comments?
Also, I have no idea which case to get. I don't care how it looks or how heavy it is etc, I just want a good case, so gimme some options <80 euro or so, preferably.

Oh and, will any of those parts drop in price in the near future? I could wait if it were to be something significant.

Great thread, thanks in advance.
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
shtdisturbance
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada613 Posts
July 04 2011 15:49 GMT
#7871
I just graduated high school and am finally ready to invest in a computer with the help of my grad money. My budget is $1000 but if there is something that i need, i can push my budget a bit.
I don't plan on overclocking.
I have a monitor. 1680x1050.
I was also hoping for a HD with quite a bit of space because i do have a lot of stuff i would like to bring over from this computer.
-Will it play ultra setting sc2?
If there is anything else i'm forgetting, please ask.
Thanks!
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 15:59:20
July 04 2011 15:57 GMT
#7872
Maybe some good news for those of budget. According to some review, AMD new Llano cpu integrated GPU a very capable graphic card. This could fit into some budget build!
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 17:31:10
July 04 2011 17:18 GMT
#7873
On July 04 2011 18:19 MoonfireSpam wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Debating buying a new graphic card as a birthday present to myself (was going to buy a PS3 but I think I'd rather play nice PC games) since I inherited a larger monitor and my poor HD4650 is punching way above it's weight trying to run things in 1920 x 1080.

Looking at the GTX460, and the GTX560/Ti and the price range of the cards kinda confuses me slightly. I'm assuming the price differences is due to various after market cooling and overclocking added. But for example a GTX460 OC costs the same as a GTX560 so which one is "better"? Probably looking at this MSi GTX560Ti .

Another question, my mobo is a slightly old Gigabyte P35-S3G but from what I can tell it should support any of the above cards (it has 1xPCI-E x16 slot)? I also assume a Eathwatts 500W PSU should supply the juice needed.


Price aside, GTX 560 is better than an overclocked GTX 460 1GB (non-SE; SE is worse). Given the same clock speeds, they're exactly the same in performance, but the GTX 560 uses less power and generally can overclock significantly higher.

Your motherboard is fine, though possibly (I didn't check) you might have to update the BIOS to support these PCIe 2.x graphics cards. Earthwatts 500W is also fine.

Until you upgrade the CPU, that's still going to be a limiting factor. I think the best deal in that price range, your CPU aside, is probably a HD 6870 around £140 though.

On July 05 2011 00:45 alepov wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Hi, I'm gonna be using my pc for gaming and streaming. Have a samsung 206bw monitor atm (1680 x 1050) and might be using dual monitors and/or upgrade later on to one of those 120hz monitors like LG W2363D (1920x1080) or something along those lines.
I'm not planning on overclocking and I don't upgrade regularly.

Got this so far. Comments?
Also, I have no idea which case to get. I don't care how it looks or how heavy it is etc, I just want a good case, so gimme some options <80 euro or so, preferably.

Oh and, will any of those parts drop in price in the near future? I could wait if it were to be something significant.

Great thread, thanks in advance.


Rather than four 1GB modules, just get two 2GB modules or maybe even two 4GB modules. That Kingston HyperX is way overpriced. You probably don't need such an expensive motherboard, so you can go cheaper, unless you need all the PCI/PCIe slots, the SATA3 and USB3 support, 4 RAM slots, etc., and can't find something else with all the things you want.

Cases...I think some of these look stupid, but you said you don't care:
Cooler Master Elite 371 - € 36,30
Lian Li LanCool PC-K57 - € 56,88
Fractal Design Core 3000 - € 61,39
Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus - € 73,96

On July 05 2011 00:49 shtdisturbance wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I just graduated high school and am finally ready to invest in a computer with the help of my grad money. My budget is $1000 but if there is something that i need, i can push my budget a bit.
I don't plan on overclocking.
I have a monitor. 1680x1050.
I was also hoping for a HD with quite a bit of space because i do have a lot of stuff i would like to bring over from this computer.
-Will it play ultra setting sc2?
If there is anything else i'm forgetting, please ask.
Thanks!


That's an overkill budget for what you want to do, I think. Hold on.

edit: do you have a .edu e-mail address and can therefore get Windows cheaper? Actually, wait until tonight and I'll round up a build, unless somebody else does it before then. In general I'd think you'd be able to get like a i5-2500, 8GB RAM, SSD, large storage HDD, HD 6870 / GTX 560 (Ti or not), etc.

On July 05 2011 00:57 XenOmega wrote:
Maybe some good news for those of budget. According to some review, AMD new Llano cpu integrated GPU a very capable graphic card. This could fit into some budget build!

It's about what, like an Athlon II X4 paired with a HD 5550, for the top end model? Performance depends a lot on the memory speed, since those Radeon cores share the main system memory. Given the price of the A75 motherboards and lack of A55 motherboards yet, they're currently not good values for anybody.
benbrad2
Profile Joined June 2011
103 Posts
July 04 2011 17:28 GMT
#7874
is 9800gt bottlenecking my i3-2100 in game ?
also, is Hard drive something you need to replace?

I've had mine for about 5 years or so. And I think my computer keeps freezing on me when I try to record too manythings at once.
Like downloading steam game at 1.1mb and launching a game.

Not sure why that happens
Whatsup
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 04 2011 17:33 GMT
#7875
On July 05 2011 02:28 benbrad2 wrote:
is 9800gt bottlenecking my i3-2100 in game ?
also, is Hard drive something you need to replace?

I've had mine for about 5 years or so. And I think my computer keeps freezing on me when I try to record too manythings at once.
Like downloading steam game at 1.1mb and launching a game.

Not sure why that happens


Yes your GPU is a bottleneck. Yes HDD's have to be replaced eventually. Also, at that age it could easily be a 5400RPM HDD, which is slow without having issues. Look up your HDD, see if it's SMART compatible, if so, DL your HDD manufacturers diagnostic tool for it, and run a SMART check on it.

Your memory could also be limiting you when you're doing that much stuff at once, depending on how much you have.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 17:38:06
July 04 2011 17:36 GMT
#7876
On July 05 2011 00:49 shtdisturbance wrote:
I just graduated high school and am finally ready to invest in a computer with the help of my grad money. My budget is $1000 but if there is something that i need, i can push my budget a bit.
I don't plan on overclocking.
I have a monitor. 1680x1050.
I was also hoping for a HD with quite a bit of space because i do have a lot of stuff i would like to bring over from this computer.
-Will it play ultra setting sc2?
If there is anything else i'm forgetting, please ask.
Thanks!


Here's a configuration capable of Starcraft II on ultra for $732:

There's still a lot remaining in your budget so you could get an overclockable configuration, add in an SSD for faster load times (not really important for Starcraft II since you'll be waiting for the other player to load anyways), get a stronger graphics card (doesn't help that much with Starcraft II but it'll help with other games), or just save the money.

Intel Core i5 2400 @ $181 (pricematch with http://www.vastech.ca/intel-core-i5-2400-sandy-bridge-3-1ghz-cpu.html )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57964

Gigabyte H67M D2 @ $86 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11830BD2027 )
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=59419

XFX Radeon HD6850 @ $165 ($140 after mail in rebate)
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=56261&promoid=1334

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $49 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/230752/COOLERMASTER/RC_912_KKN1/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1339

GSkill 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $59 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15380BD8579 )
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=57950

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $35
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=58402&promoid=1334

DVD Burner @ $17
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=49597&promoid=1334

XFX Core Edition Pro 450 @ $47 ($37 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15180AC2804 )
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=59614

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $94 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/222137/MICROSOFT/GFC_00599/ )
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=45271
shtdisturbance
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada613 Posts
July 04 2011 18:56 GMT
#7877
On July 05 2011 02:36 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 00:49 shtdisturbance wrote:
I just graduated high school and am finally ready to invest in a computer with the help of my grad money. My budget is $1000 but if there is something that i need, i can push my budget a bit.
I don't plan on overclocking.
I have a monitor. 1680x1050.
I was also hoping for a HD with quite a bit of space because i do have a lot of stuff i would like to bring over from this computer.
-Will it play ultra setting sc2?
If there is anything else i'm forgetting, please ask.
Thanks!


Here's a configuration capable of Starcraft II on ultra for $732:

There's still a lot remaining in your budget so you could get an overclockable configuration, add in an SSD for faster load times (not really important for Starcraft II since you'll be waiting for the other player to load anyways), get a stronger graphics card (doesn't help that much with Starcraft II but it'll help with other games), or just save the money.

Intel Core i5 2400 @ $181 (pricematch with http://www.vastech.ca/intel-core-i5-2400-sandy-bridge-3-1ghz-cpu.html )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57964

Gigabyte H67M D2 @ $86 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11830BD2027 )
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=59419

XFX Radeon HD6850 @ $165 ($140 after mail in rebate)
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=56261&promoid=1334

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $49 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/230752/COOLERMASTER/RC_912_KKN1/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1339

GSkill 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $59 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15380BD8579 )
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=57950

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $35
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=58402&promoid=1334

DVD Burner @ $17
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=49597&promoid=1334

XFX Core Edition Pro 450 @ $47 ($37 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15180AC2804 )
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=59614

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $94 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/222137/MICROSOFT/GFC_00599/ )
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=45271


Thanks a lot!! I already have a windows 7 so we can subtract that too and i have a total of $638.
I still have some extra money to throw in. Do you think spending the extra 300 would be worthwhile? Would an SSD be a good way to spend some more of it? I would also like more room than 500 GB so what would you recommend there?

Again thanks!
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 19:06:56
July 04 2011 19:06 GMT
#7878
Sure, (ditch the WD Caviar Blue)

Crucial M4 64GB - $111.79 after price match
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=60444
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11230DR4284

Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB - $70
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=49591&promoid=1334

extra SATA cable (motherboard comes with 2; you need 3) - $4
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=15994

If you want to play games other than SC2 in the future, on higher settings, you could upgrade the graphics card a bit.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 04 2011 19:16 GMT
#7879
Well how much space do you need? You can go with an SSD and a storage drive which would add roughly $185 to your total:

A Western Digital Caviar Green: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=49591&promoid=1334 along with one of the following SSDs:

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/234222/Intel/SSDSA2CW080G310/
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/234806/CRUCIAL_TECHNOLOGY/CT064M4SSD2/ (the one Myrmidon linked, you can't pricematch for $112 since it's OOS)
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950DR8354

If you decide you don't want an SSD, you can just get the 1TB variant of the Caviar Blue for $60: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=25350DR5426

You could get a stronger graphics card which would add roughly $70 to your total: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11830BD9294
kontar
Profile Joined June 2010
Greece24 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 19:21:56
July 04 2011 19:20 GMT
#7880
[image loading]

I am getting this tomorrow, any suggestions?

I know the psu is an overkill but i will OC both cpu and gpu and there not a lot of psu to choose from.

I was between the msi p67-gd55 and the gigabyte z68-ud3p but i thought that there is no point to lose fps to energy saving.

ps:i have a rare decease in wich i start every sentence with "i".
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