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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 03 2011 16:54 GMT
#7841
The Antec Neo Eco 450C (doesn't come with power cord--use any old one) is a little better than the ST50F-ES, and it's $10 cheaper too. It also has two PCIe connectors.
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=13454

The Silverstone unit is acceptable though.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
July 03 2011 20:32 GMT
#7842
Hi guys I'm building my first computer and I have been reading through the past pages and it's been really helpful. My budget is around 700 bucks and I have followed the advice and looked at the previous builds. If you could please look at it and tell me if there is anything wrong (I'm super paranoid). I guess what I am most unsure about are is the video card ok? will everything fit into the case? is there enough power? is everything compatible?

I plan to use it for playing SC2 and upcoming games like Diablo3 and Skyrim.

Here is what I have pretty much finalized on:

Case - ATX mid tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066

Motherboard - P67
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128487

Video Card - Radeon HD 6850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125353

Power Supply - XFX Core 450W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012

CPU - i5 2500k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012

RAM - PNY XLR8 2x2 GB DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178265

Hard Drive - Caviar Blue 500GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

Optical Drive - CD/DVD burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233

Heat Sink - Gaia SD1283
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082

Thanks for your time and input!
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 03 2011 20:34 GMT
#7843
Good build except for motherboard. Switch it out for a more feature rich Asrock P67 Pro3: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-03 20:39:13
July 03 2011 20:38 GMT
#7844
On July 04 2011 05:34 skyR wrote:
Good build except for motherboard. Switch it out for a more feature rich Asrock P67 Pro3: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230


Wow, skyR not commenting on CL8 1600 RAM for over $10/GB. That's a first. Granted, the price increase on that kit for the performance increase is actually vaguely reasonable. At least for non-gaming uses.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 03 2011 20:40 GMT
#7845
Mail in rebate brings it down to $29 and I assume he wants to deal with the mail in rebates since the rest of his configuration is reasonably well thought out.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 03 2011 20:42 GMT
#7846
On July 04 2011 05:40 skyR wrote:
Mail in rebate brings it down to $29 and I assume he wants to deal with the mail in rebates since the rest of his configuration is reasonably well thought out.


Ah. MIR. I utterly didn't see that. Definitely worth it then.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
July 03 2011 20:55 GMT
#7847
On July 04 2011 05:34 skyR wrote:
Good build except for motherboard. Switch it out for a more feature rich Asrock P67 Pro3: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230


OMG so does this mean everything else is ok?
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 03 2011 20:57 GMT
#7848
Yeah.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
July 03 2011 21:03 GMT
#7849
Ok thanks guys so much! You guys are so fast you're better than my friends irl.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
CuraOh
Profile Joined November 2010
Chile81 Posts
July 03 2011 23:16 GMT
#7850
i want to upgrade my old computer i from chile and i buy to newegg, i really like to buy the amd llano so i am thinking in the A8-3850
but i dont know which mobo choose.
http://promotions.newegg.com/AMD/11-1834/index.html?cm_sp=Cat_CPUs-Processors-_-AMD/11-1834-_-http://promotions.newegg.com/AMD/11-1834/696x288.jpg

for the memory i am thinking this because the package is better than g.skill for the travel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233180

and i dont know what gpu to buy somthing around $60-$100 if u could help me i lost here

JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-03 23:18:18
July 03 2011 23:17 GMT
#7851
On July 04 2011 08:16 CuraOh wrote:
i want to upgrade my old computer i from chile and i buy to newegg, i really like to buy the amd llano so i am thinking in the A8-3850
but i dont know which mobo choose.
http://promotions.newegg.com/AMD/11-1834/index.html?cm_sp=Cat_CPUs-Processors-_-AMD/11-1834-_-http://promotions.newegg.com/AMD/11-1834/696x288.jpg

for the memory i am thinking this because the package is better than g.skill for the travel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233180

and i dont know what gpu to buy somthing around $60-$100 if u could help me i lost here



if you're buying a GPU there's literally no sane reason to buy the A8-3850. It's priced like an i3-2100 with worse performance in gaming unless you use the IGP.
CuraOh
Profile Joined November 2010
Chile81 Posts
July 03 2011 23:24 GMT
#7852
so i could save the money for the gpu? i dont know much about, in the page of newegg says that whit another graphic card will perform better
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 03 2011 23:26 GMT
#7853
On July 04 2011 08:24 CuraOh wrote:
so i could save the money for the gpu? i dont know much about, in the page of newegg says that whit another graphic card will perform better


Uhm, what I'm saying is that if you plan to buy a discrete graphics card for gaming reasons, then Llano sucks compared to an i3 2100 for gaming as a CPU. If you compare integrated graphics, however, the Llano will outperform the i3.
hellgoat
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden30 Posts
July 03 2011 23:46 GMT
#7854
Hello fellars! I'm in a bit of a pickle here. This is my current set (relevant details at least, linking to newegg for convenience):

Motherboard: ASUS P7P55D-E LX (socket 1156)

CPU: Intel Core i3-530 (not avi on newegg)

Graphics: XFX Radeon HD 5770

Memory: 4gb of DDR3 1333 memory, can't remember brand. It's in 4x1gb, kept them for a while.

Power supply: Silver Power SP-SS500 (link to some random review I found on google)

So, it's about time to upgrade. I was thinking of going the Intel i5-2500, GTX 560 and 8gb RAM that's been adviced so frequently here, which would require me to buy a new motherboard in addition to the rest. So, my question is, is it really worth it to buy the new motherboard and CPU or would the new RAM and graphics card be sufficient? How much of an effect would I see from the upgraded CPU? Obviously I have to upgrade my lackluster CPU at some point, but would you rather advice I wait until it's even further behind and the next gen has come out? Do I need to upgrade my random, offbrand Power Supply?

I realize only I know what I really need, but budget is kind of an issue for me, so I would just humbly ask for some thoughts on this.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 03 2011 23:56 GMT
#7855
Your power supply is a Seasonic OEM and provides 34a on the 12v rail. It's not completely terrible but it isn't that great either from skimming through the various reviews I've seen.

Your configuration is still quite decent for gaming. I'd wait until the second quarter of 2012 when Ivybridge is released before committing on a new configuration. If it's for other tasks that would benefit greatly from 4GB of extra memory and two extra cores than go ahead and upgrade.
hellgoat
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden30 Posts
July 04 2011 00:27 GMT
#7856
On July 04 2011 08:56 skyR wrote:
Your power supply is a Seasonic OEM and provides 34a on the 12v rail. It's not completely terrible but it isn't that great either from skimming through the various reviews I've seen.

Your configuration is still quite decent for gaming. I'd wait until the second quarter of 2012 when Ivybridge is released before committing on a new configuration. If it's for other tasks that would benefit greatly from 4GB of extra memory and two extra cores than go ahead and upgrade.


This sounds very reasonable. Thanks for the fast reply <3
ABCDEF
Profile Joined July 2011
7 Posts
July 04 2011 05:20 GMT
#7857
Could you check my build before I hit the buy button :D

Here is my build:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.660241

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130651

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121080

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146025

Cooling: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 + http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103069 + http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007


Only thing I am iffy about is the PSU It seems like an AMAZING psu but its so expensive!!! Should I get it or get a cheaper one with higher watts/ the same watts
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 04 2011 05:33 GMT
#7858
Well the Kingwin Lazer Plat is one of the best ~600w unit on the market atm so you get what you pay for... It's silly to spend so much on a power supply if you don't have specific needs and your case / other components are sub par / aren't (near) flagship products. I'd go for a less expensive power supply, such as the XFX Core Edition line.

Don't buy the Coolermaster Hyper 212+ for $50, it's only suppose to be a $20-$30 heatsink but Newegg decided to mark it up due to demand. Get the Xigmatek Gaia instead which performs very similar to the Hyper 212+: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082
ABCDEF
Profile Joined July 2011
7 Posts
July 04 2011 05:48 GMT
#7859
Ok thanks skyR :D

2 questions 1. Does the Xigmatek Gaia have a connecter on the other side for another fan like the 212+

and

2. What PSU would you say to use for my build?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 04 2011 05:54 GMT
#7860
Yes, Xigmatek provides you with enough mounts to have a push-pull fan configuration.

If you want to do SLI, you can get the XFX Core Edition Pro 650 for $90 ($60 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207014 If you are just going to be using a single card configuration, you can get the 450 variant for $55 ($45 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012
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