EPTAlso, yes, you don't need SLI for CUDA, just having the two is fine. (In some situations SLI actually causes problems in computation.)
Thanks for all your help!
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colblitz
United States41 Posts
Also, yes, you don't need SLI for CUDA, just having the two is fine. (In some situations SLI actually causes problems in computation.) Thanks for all your help! | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 03 2011 11:44 colblitz wrote: Yeah, all Nvidia GPUs support CUDA, it's more a matter of which version you need to support (http://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-gpus). Also, yes, you don't need SLI for CUDA, just having the two is fine. (In some situations SLI actually causes problems in computation.) Thanks for all your help! That would probably explain my confusion. | ||
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troynewell47
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
For CUDA programming, i.e. your own programs, I'd assume you're fine with any Nvidia card? On July 03 2011 12:09 troynewell47 wrote: Can someone link me the best 650 watt psu out there? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121080 Best...for what? And before you say that's a 550W unit, look closer. | ||
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colblitz
United States41 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Core i5-2400 (same) - $180 after promo code http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 **EVGA GTS 450 - $100 after promo code, $70 after mail-in rebate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130679 **AsRock H61M-VS - $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241 G.Skill 2 x 4GB DDR3 RAM (same) - $55 after promo code http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311 Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB (same) - $40 after promo code http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769 **Intel 320 Series 80GB - $160 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167049 Asus CD / DVD-RW (same) - $20 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 **Extra SATA cable (you need 3, motherboard comes with 2) - $4 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812270093 **Rosewill Green Series 430W - $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182202 **Cooler Master HAF 912 - $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 Differences: no SLI support, limited slots on motherboard, worse but decent and quiet power supply, worse case, significantly weaker video card. However, a GTS 450 is still enough to play SC2 well on high settings at 1920x1080, so it's far from a useless gaming card. As a rough idea of the GTS 450 compared to the GTX 560, see charts in the link. Note that pretty much anything past a certain point handles SC2 fine, and it's really about the CPU in those scenarios. http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/HD_6850_SCS3_Passive/27.html Note that none of the internal components are particularly noisy, so noise shouldn't be that bad despite the very open-air, mesh-heavy case design. They're not exactly silent though either. Promo codes expire in a couple days, but you said you were buying soon. edit: wait a sec, I just realized that the motherboard doesn't have SATA3, and that's a SATA3 SSD that would be very sad edit2: changed SSD to an Intel 320 80GB. After all, you're putting two OS on it and need to partition the drive, so this has a little more capacity. Some of those video/image editing applications take a bit of space too. They changed the warranty from 3 years to 5 years on the 320 series. This should be the most reliable SSD on the market, based on Intel's past history and the fact that they're using the same controller as for the previous X25-M G2. | ||
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colblitz
United States41 Posts
On July 03 2011 11:21 skyR wrote: This is what you would be looking at if you wanted to go over budget slightly, for $890 (with one HDD, you can add a second one of whatever capacity and speed you want): Intel Core i5 2400 @ $180 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 Gigabyte GTX 560 @ $190 ($170 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125383 Gigabyte Z68 D3 @ $120 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128501 + Show Spoiler + I don't think SLI is necessary for CUDA? You just need the extra graphics card correct? If that's the case, you can get just get any motherboard with two PCI-E x16 slots and SATA3 (for your SSD). GSkill Ripjaws 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311 XFX Core Edition 450 @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012 Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769 Fractal Design Define R3 @ $110 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352001 DVD Burner @ $20 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 Crucial M4 64GB @ $120 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441 If you wanted to stay within your budget but still meet all your needs, you could get a Corsair CX430 V2 for $45 ($25 after mail in rebate) instead of the XFX and a GTX 460 instead of the GTX 560, both these changes would take roughly $40 off the overall total. You can obviously get a less expensive case if you don't need a silent case. skyR, do you have any recommendations for motherboards for if I only went with a single GPU, without needing an expansion? edit: Oh, didn't see your modification, Myrmidon - thanks! | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
You can get a more expensive motherboard than that if you want though. Just get something with the features, PCI/PCIe slots, RAM slots, etc. that you need. e.g. this has USB3 and SATA3 support, for $75: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236 | ||
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Soloside
United States1238 Posts
I've always been interested in building my own desktop and now that I have some time and money on my hands, I've decided to start one. The use will be mainly for school/gaming/stream. Did a little research and came down to this. AMD Phenom II X6 1100T - 189.99 Sapphire ATI HD6850 - 169.99 (-15.00 MIR) OCZ Vertex2 60gb - 104.99 (-20.00 MIR) G Skill Ripsaw 8gb (2x4gb) 1333 - 69.99 GIGABYTE GA-880GA-UD3H ATX AMD mobo - 99.99 Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" - 44.99 ASUS 24X DVD Burner - 19.99 What I need help is with the power supply (brand + watt) and if anything I have is overkill/could be improved. As for budget I want it to be ~850 max. EDIT: Forgot the case, but was always interested in the Antec 300 illusion. Any thoughts? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Intel Core i5 2400 @ $180 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 Gigabyte GTX 560 @ $190 ($170 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125383 Asrock H61M U3S3 @ $75 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236 GSkill Ripjaws 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311 XFX Core Edition 450 @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012 Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769 Antec Three Hundred Illusion @ $55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066 DVD Burner @ $20 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 Crucial M4 64GB @ $120 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441 Intel processors are better. Self explanatory: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083 and http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i5-2500-2400-2300.html A GTX 560 uses roughly 160w while a core i5 2400 uses roughly 55w so a quality 500w power supply such as the XFX Core Edition 450 provides more than enough power for such a configuration. If you wanted to overclock, you can get a core i5 2500k, an Xigmatek Gaia, and a Asrock P67 Pro3 instead. This would add about $80 to the total. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + @Soloside: Phenom II X6 1100T kind of sucks compared to a i5-2400 (which costs the same), except when you can actually keep all six cores busy. In that situation, they're roughly the same, with a very slight edge to the Phenom II X6. See here: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/363?vs=203 Antec 300 Illusion is okay but it's kind of dated and missing features of more modern cases. The extra two fans over the normal Antec 300 only help temperatures by a few degrees. At $55 it's a decent value though. You're better off with a variant of the last build skyR posted. + Show Spoiler [build] + Intel Core i5 2400 @ $180 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 Gigabyte GTX 560 @ $190 ($170 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125383 AsRock H61M-VS @ $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241 GSkill Ripjaws 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311 XFX Core Edition 450 @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012 Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769 DVD Burner @ $20 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 Extra SATA cable (you need 3, motherboard comes with 2) @ $4 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812270093 Intel 320 Series 80GB @ $160 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167049 Antec 300 Illusion @ $55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066 fyi the power supply is way overkill, though it should be of good quality. The above parts need well less than 300W in the worst case scenario. | ||
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magicaljobo
Australia113 Posts
I'm trying to put together a new computer. I'm not that experience with hardware so any assistance would be greatly appreciated  I would like to buy from pccasegear.com as I'm from Australia. My budget is AU$1000. I was thinking of getting this BenQ GL2440HM 24in Widescreen LED Monitor with Speakers . Its $199, therefore leaving $800 for my build. I don't need an O/S. Reason for building a new computer is because I currently play SC2 on my laptop which I accidentally dropped a couple of weeks ago XD Doesn't work so good now :S I will use this computer to play SC2 and BF3 in the future. I don't need to play my games on the best graphics. I just want a reliable, affordable computer which will last me a couple years if possible. Many Thanks, George | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
This sample build can't overclock but won't have trouble playing computer games: Processor: i3 2100 PSU: Earthwatts 430W Motherboard: ASRock H61M-VS RAM: 4GB of memory GPU: Gigabyte GTX560 Ti Hard Disk: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB That currently comes to $603 but you still need a computer case. I'm going to leave case picking to you because I'm not you and I don't know what you think looks cool or suits your needs (what do you need? do you want quiet computing; do you want to fit 10 hard disks; do you want a small portable frame? I dunno I'm not you). So you have $200 to choose a computer case. I can tell you what's bad and what's good so pick a few and I can tell you which ones are seriously bad designs. | ||
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xUraharaX
United States72 Posts
On July 03 2011 19:08 Womwomwom wrote: Are you going to overclock the CPU or not? Since you want a reliable, no-fuss computer, I'm thinking no but this will make it easier to pick out parts. This sample build can't overclock but won't have trouble playing computer games: Processor: i3 2100 PSU: Earthwatts 430W Motherboard: ASRock H61M-VS RAM: 4GB of memory GPU: Gigabyte GTX560 Ti Hard Disk: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB That currently comes to $603 but you still need a computer case. I'm going to leave case picking to you because I'm not you and I don't know what you think looks cool or suits your needs (what do you need? do you want quiet computing; do you want to fit 10 hard disks; do you want a small portable frame? I dunno I'm not you). So you have $200 to choose a computer case. I can tell you what's bad and what's good so pick a few and I can tell you which ones are seriously bad designs. You have $200 to spare, I would recommend spending an addition $60 for an i5-2400 you may not need the additional 2 cores right now, but its a great investment for the future of the computer and if you have the money to spare it will almost surely save you from having to upgrade a year early + Show Spoiler + http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=187_346_1184&products_id=16402 Case pricing in australia truly is funky... but its good to see this case still is at a normal price point + Show Spoiler + http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25_547&products_id=14993 And simply because no optical drive was listed previously + Show Spoiler + http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=658_667&products_id=17348 | ||
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xUraharaX
United States72 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_535&products_id=15319 reason being is the additional pci-e connector necessary for your graphics card, and although you can convert your standard 4 pin into pci-e I usually dont recommend it on a multiple rail design. | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
Fair enough about the PSU, he isn't running much off the PSU so it wouldn't really matter if he's using an adapter but getting a PSU with two actual PCIe connectors is a far better idea. | ||
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Az0r_au
Australia385 Posts
*edit* BF2 currently supports up to 6cores so BF3 will for sure support atleast 4 | ||
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HuggyBear
Australia377 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 03 2011 22:10 HuggyBear wrote: Don't forget it costs around $70-80 to ship everything, monitor included. Insurance costs $20-ish Depends on where you order through. At least in the US, you're likely to have free shipping on that large of an order if you don't pay for a faster option. | ||
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magicaljobo
Australia113 Posts
So thinking of going with a variation Womwomwom's build. Processor: i5-2400 PSU: Silverstone Strider 500W ST50F-ES Motherboard: ASRock H61M-VS RAM: 4GB of memory GPU: Gigabyte GTX560 Ti Hard Disk: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB Monitor: BenQ GL2440HM 24" Case: Silverstone PS05 Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222AB After factoring the price for a case and optical drive had some spare money, so took xUraharaX's advice and put it toward a better CPU :D Including shipping and Insurance its just over $1000 which is great! Big thanks to Womwomwom, xUraharaX, Az0r_au, HuggyBear and JingleHell for the build, their advice and feedback! Really appreciate it, you guys are awesome! <3 | ||
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