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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
manchego
Profile Joined June 2011
8 Posts
June 19 2011 04:20 GMT
#7061
@skyR

Replaced the Gigabyte one with the MSI one. Awesome.

So, all set and gets the skyR stamp or approval?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 19 2011 04:22 GMT
#7062
I edited my post if you didn't see and maybe something you should consider but the configuration is a good one regardless if you make these changes or not.

You should also just get the less expensive EVGA -AR GTX 560 Ti and do the overclocking yourself: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604

A regular GTX 560 is also more than capable of Starcraft II on ultra at 1080p: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130660 Only a ten year warranty (promotion ends July 30th) as opposed to lifetime though.
manchego
Profile Joined June 2011
8 Posts
June 19 2011 04:29 GMT
#7063
Just saw those, thanks a ton for your help.
Myrland
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway4 Posts
June 19 2011 04:46 GMT
#7064
@ Womwomwom

Big thanks to you for your input! After checking abit on the anti-glare I've decided on the U2331H
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
June 19 2011 05:22 GMT
#7065

But the u2311h isnt on special
geethy
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia67 Posts
June 19 2011 08:43 GMT
#7066
Just wondering, can what type of audio does the ASUS P8P67 PRO Motherboard B3 have? Like, will it support 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound? Or will I have to buy a sound card? Sorry if this is a bit of a stupid question :/
'Money can't buy you happiness, but I'd rather cry in a Ferrari.'
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
June 19 2011 09:04 GMT
#7067
onboard sound does support 5.1, but if you're going to drop money on a 5.1 setup, then a sound card could be beneficial.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
geethy
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia67 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 09:08:58
June 19 2011 09:08 GMT
#7068
Mmk, would a 7.1 card be any good? Like, would it be worth the extra money?
'Money can't buy you happiness, but I'd rather cry in a Ferrari.'
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
June 19 2011 09:12 GMT
#7069
If you need a 7.1 audio (why? if you have that much money, don't ask Teamliquid), go ask someone else because a sound card is not what you want.
Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
June 19 2011 10:04 GMT
#7070
On June 19 2011 18:08 geethy wrote:
Mmk, would a 7.1 card be any good? Like, would it be worth the extra money?


You better not be spending huge bucks just for money. Its not about how many drivers you have...its about quality.

Were you thinking about getting gaming 7.1 headphones? If so, don't bother. Its along the same lines as buying a "premade gaming computer". You are paying for "bling" that is likely to have subpar audio quality with positional audio you could get out of any quality headphones.
LoL @ NA: bambipwnsu
geethy
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia67 Posts
June 19 2011 10:15 GMT
#7071
Yeah, that's what I was wondering, whether there was much difference between 5.1 or 7.1
'Money can't buy you happiness, but I'd rather cry in a Ferrari.'
Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
June 19 2011 10:37 GMT
#7072
Same goes for 5,1 headphones.
If you want to read up on it you can go read up on the posts by nitpickers @ head-fi..

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/513400/best-5-1-7-1-headphones/15

Spoilered relevant post for you:

+ Show Spoiler +


Man, you're missing the point; 2,3, or 4 driver per side; what's the difference, the more there are, the crappier they'll be. You're arguing semantics and missing my main point. I'll reiterate and leave it here, as you seem only to ant to tell everyone you much you like these, and gloss over the real issues.

Soundstage and clarity is not about buying MORE drivers, it's about buying BETTER ones. And this will ALWAYS be limited by the nature of games files. Simple effects of footsteps, explosions etc are not hard to reproduce with accuracy.

Please, headphone drivers have a sub in there? C'mon. You're back on the marketing stuff - it matters not how many decoders and whatnot you have in there, you do not get 5.1 out of headphones. Period.

All you have described is those widget effects, which produce rear delay or whatever. Fine, you like the effect. But don't mistake that for 5.1. You simply cannot replicate 5 satellite speakers placed around a room with adequate space between them, and a full size sub, with headphones.

Again, you like the effect, fine. If other like the sound of that, then they'll get the Titton. But don't try and tell anyone true 5.1 surround sound and extra mega wide soundstage comes out of cheap drivers right next to your ear. Your ears simply cannot audibly process the difference between sound coming from one driver or another when they are crammed in right next to each other.

This effect is just as equally produced by quality drivers producing separation effects through better design, quality and build. Your ears can be fooled into gaining the same effect, for far less cash, with stereo. Because the drivers do it better than '5.1' in the first place.

I haven't heard many of these sets, don't need to, because they're all shades of the same flavour. I've also had many discussions about this with someone who was a competitive Pro gamer for 15 years, and who only ever used good stereo phones. He now owns a headphone store and still games. He stocks a few 5.1s, because no matter that he tells gamers, some want bling and toys to play around with. And despite his advice and experience, if that's what they're set on, better he sells one to them after spending his time to give that advice.

So that's all I'm saying, these things are no better for gaming. You might like them, but technically stereo can do it all just as well, or better, for less. Plus, as you've already said these sets aren't about hi fi. So after gaming if someone wants to listen to music, phones will do this better too.

I'll leave readers to make up their own mind, but people should know what they're buying isn't technically superior.


LoL @ NA: bambipwnsu
Killcycle
Profile Joined January 2011
United States170 Posts
June 19 2011 12:15 GMT
#7073
@Myrmidon / SkyR

I asked about a build about a month-ish ago, you guys helped out and it's been running smooth and without a hitch. Sc2 looks beautiful! Just wanted to say thanks :D <3
I fear not the shadows of glory nor the echoes of eternity; place before me a true rendition of greatness... and then we shall see.
geethy
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia67 Posts
June 19 2011 12:57 GMT
#7074
Sweet, thanks for that. One of my friends is a headphone nut, so I'm gonna try some really good stereo headphones and then try some virtual surround ones and see which one I like better. At the moment, I'm leaning towards just a regular stereo with a clip-on mike. Thanks for the help!
'Money can't buy you happiness, but I'd rather cry in a Ferrari.'
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
June 19 2011 17:14 GMT
#7075
At friend's house, she says that the computer sometimes restart on its own due to a failure. I'm here right now, running Stress test to see if any CPU problem. I've already ran Memory test without any problem.

What tests should I run to test Hard drive, or what should I do to try to identify the problem? As of now, I have no idea what it can be
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 19 2011 17:21 GMT
#7076
I'm assuming it's a BSOD? If it is, you just have to wait for it to happen and see what the stop code is.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 17:30:40
June 19 2011 17:22 GMT
#7077
Yea, but she says the BSOD (blue screen) appears and disappears really fast, so she can't read what's on.

Is there any test to test the Hard drive?

The cpu/mobo should be workingt because they were mine. I removed the Overclock just in case it was because of that. The new hardware inside are RAM, Hardrive. Everything else is.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 19 2011 17:23 GMT
#7078
You need to disable automatic restart by going into Control Panel > System & Security > System > Advanced System Settings > Startup & Recovery Settings. Untick Automatically restart under System failure.
wideye
Profile Joined June 2010
United States209 Posts
June 19 2011 19:59 GMT
#7079
hey guys-

i am asking for a computer for my birthday, but i do not want to stress of building my own. i just want to play sc2 on at least medium graphics. i am pretty noob with computers but i have narrowed my search down to a few options with a budget of 1200-1400. i just have a few questions remaining:

1) any notable preferences between vesta and origin? i am down to those two brands.
2) what should i choose for video cards, ATI Radeon 6870 or Nvidia GTX 560 Ti? or upgrade to one of the 2GB video cards? how would those translate to graphics levels in sc2?
3) is the intel i7 worth the extra hundred bucks or so over the i5? i think i only need 4 GB RAM. not sure if i7 would be overkill...
4) i already have a 22-inch samsung tv/monitor with a DVI and HD input. this would work just fine with any desktop, right?

thanks so much for the help.


slim pickens
Habel
Profile Joined April 2011
United States123 Posts
June 19 2011 20:02 GMT
#7080
Is there any reason you don't want to build your computer other than the stress? There is very little stress involved, as it would really take a hammer to put something somewhere it doesn't belong.
"I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints." - Billy Joel
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