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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 02:51:18
June 05 2011 02:50 GMT
#6301
On June 05 2011 11:43 BreakBad wrote:
@skyR
Probably going to get his recommendation on those 3 items just in case. I haven't done any streaming yet so I'm sure I an hold it off for another month or 2 to get the cash for that processor. I'll probably take the rest of your recommendation though. Try to practice up before the world laughs at me


if you can extend you budget a bit ($40 more), you can opt for this quad core combo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.660638. you lose out on USB3 with this motherboard though.
starleague forever
BreakBad
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany62 Posts
June 05 2011 02:54 GMT
#6302
On June 05 2011 11:50 a176 wrote:
if you can extend you budget a bit ($40 more), you can opt for this quad core combo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.660638. you lose out on USB3 with this motherboard though.


I actually could spend 40 more. What is the benefit of having that USB3 though?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 05 2011 02:55 GMT
#6303
It's faster than USB2. So if you don't have any external USB3 harddrives or USB3 recording equipment or USB3 something, you don't need it.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 05 2011 02:55 GMT
#6304
On June 05 2011 11:54 BreakBad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 11:50 a176 wrote:
if you can extend you budget a bit ($40 more), you can opt for this quad core combo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.660638. you lose out on USB3 with this motherboard though.


I actually could spend 40 more. What is the benefit of having that USB3 though?


Very little, yet. Not a whole lot of peripherals need the extra bandwidth, and most of the few uses available, you'd likely know about if you were likely to have a use for them right now.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
June 05 2011 02:56 GMT
#6305
Yep, just a future proofing thing. You could always get a USB3 add-in card down the road if needed.
starleague forever
BreakBad
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany62 Posts
June 05 2011 03:00 GMT
#6306
Looked on Google and it looks like my externals (mouse and hard drive) are both USB2. With that said, which package should I get for what I want to do (stream and game)?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 05 2011 03:00 GMT
#6307
On June 05 2011 12:00 BreakBad wrote:
Looked on Google and it looks like my externals (mouse and hard drive) are both USB2. With that said, which package should I get for what I want to do (stream and game)?


You need quad core to stream SC2 effectively.
BreakBad
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany62 Posts
June 05 2011 03:01 GMT
#6308
On June 05 2011 12:00 JingleHell wrote:
You need quad core to stream SC2 effectively.


Same with WoW and (potentially) D3?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 05 2011 03:02 GMT
#6309
On June 05 2011 12:01 BreakBad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 12:00 JingleHell wrote:
You need quad core to stream SC2 effectively.


Same with WoW and (potentially) D3?


4 cores will beat 2 for streaming pretty much anything.
BreakBad
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany62 Posts
June 05 2011 03:04 GMT
#6310
On June 05 2011 12:02 JingleHell wrote:
4 cores will beat 2 for streaming pretty much anything.

Ok thanks! I will definitely get the quad package then! Thanks for everyone's help!
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
June 05 2011 03:48 GMT
#6311
Hmm...

Anything worthy at futureshop then? 6970 is out of stock. But I think they have some 6870, but doubt it is a good card, since I could get 570/580
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 05 2011 03:56 GMT
#6312
lol 6870 for $245 and 6970 for $400... /facepalm

Only ones worth considering for an Eyefinity setup is the GTX 570 or Radeon HD6970.

These prices are absurd so if you buy from futureshop, please do a pricematch.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
June 05 2011 04:13 GMT
#6313
Yes, but the 6970 is out of stock

Also, I have the 250 gift card... so a little bit Overpriced is not a big issue.

OR, of course, I could start getting monitor with the Gift card. But I'm not very familiar with the Monitor future shop sells. Mind helping me? ^^

ty!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 05 2011 04:17 GMT
#6314
But wouldn't you want identical monitors for Eyefinity?

Most of the TN panels are nearly identical in terms of quality and performance so it doesn't really matter which you pick. It's just different branding, connectivity, features, etc.

Why not just save the gift card to spend on future birthday / christmas gifts?
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
June 05 2011 04:46 GMT
#6315
I'm a little bit tight on money, so that's why i was hoping to use the 250 gift card for something (getting CPU/Mobo : not possible since Futureshop doesn't carry Sandy bridge)

Getting Vid Card : 6970 is out of stock. Should have tried to buy it via Pricematch... but I was still waiting...

Getting a Monitor : This may be my last option.

Another option, of course, would be to get something else... game, birthday/christmas gifts, etc... but I could really use that 250 gift -.-
ragnasaur
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States804 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 05:00:50
June 05 2011 04:59 GMT
#6316
Hey guys, I've been doing a bunch of research lately and I could really use your help and suggestions!

I'm trying to get a really nice new computer for ~$1000 (preferably under).
I'm a gamer and an artist so Games and Photoshop are very important for me.
Hopefully it will last me for 5+ years as this puppy has.

My old GPU (6600GT) died on me after like 2 years of overclocked pwnage, because of this, I'd like a pre-overclocked graphics card with a long warranty attached.

i5-2500k + Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.660241
HDD + Win7pro: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.653228
GTX560ti: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130651
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005
Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231313
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216

it equals about to $929 after rebates & before shipping
is there anything else I'm missing? also how is the memory? any bottle-necking going on?
The HDD reviews weren't that great but as far as i know Seagate Barracuda is a good drive...
and would that 650W PSU be able to comfortably handle 2 560ti's in SLI down the road?
Can that 560ti handle 2 monitors with good resolution by itself?

couple notes:
I would like the opportunity to add SLI, and a 2 monitor set-up in the future.
I will be able to salvage a DVD drive from my current rig.
I know I could get a cheaper case but that one is sweeeeet

| (• ◡•)| (❍ᴥ❍ʋ) George Forman doesnt have any fingerprints
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 05:19:23
June 05 2011 05:05 GMT
#6317
The HDD is overpriced, and 6Gb/s SATA on a HDD is pointless anyways, spinny drives can't saturate 3Gb/s.

The motherboard isn't SLI ready, they have to get that enabled through Nvidia. (Nevermind, they just didn't get all in my face with it like most people do on product pages)

Go with just 1333 mhz memory for ~$40, you shouldn't pay more than that for 4GB.

The PSU is only decent, at best, but should do what you want it to. skyR or Myrmidon can probably tell you a better option for less though.

EVGA has kickass support.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 05 2011 05:07 GMT
#6318
Seagate Barracuda performance is good but reliability is up for debate.

Yes, the 650w would be capable of SLI GTX 560 Ti but you'll want the new and improved version of the TX650: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020 There's also the XFX Core Edition Pro 650 for $90 ($70 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207014 Both power supplies are manufactured by Seasonic and are nearly identical.

Are you referring to playing a game on one monitor and having your desktop on the other? If so, the GTX 560 Ti and basically any card with 2 DVI outputs is capable of it. The second monitor that has your instant messaging, browsers, etc won't have an impact on performance. If you're referring to 3D Surround, SLI is required.

Performance difference between different memory frequencies and timings are very small as seen here: http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377/3 and here: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3.html

Wouldn't you want 8GB of memory for photoshop as well?

The MSI P67 G series of motherboards is capable of SLI.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 05:13:40
June 05 2011 05:12 GMT
#6319
On June 05 2011 14:07 skyR wrote:


Wouldn't you want 8GB of memory for photoshop as well?

The MSI P67 G series of motherboards is capable of SLI.


Yeah, that too on the memory.

You sure that specific board is SLI ready though? They normally list that on the Newegg page, doesn't say it anywhere, and neither does the MSI product page.

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/P67A-G45--B3-.html

Normally they make sure you know about it, since they have to get it enabled.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 05 2011 05:15 GMT
#6320
It is listed on Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130582 and the motherboard has SLI logo as well. NCIX has also said it supports SLI.

If it doesn't support SLI than well boy... MSI = false advertising -_-
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