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Uhh Negative
United States1090 Posts
I've just been using some PSU calculators and the 450w PSU you recommended seems kind of low: i5 2500k (overclocked to I'm guessing 4.0+ GHz) GTX 560 ti 1 7200RPM HDD Z68 mobo 2x2GB DDR3 RAM 1 DVD-RW drive. Different calculators are giving me between 450 and 550. | ||
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Aphoristic
United States9 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
What calculators are you using? Most of them are designed to sell products. This is the most accurate one: http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine Your configuration's minimum power supply is 322w with a recommended power supply of 372w. @Aphoristic 750w is a comfortable wattage for CrossfireX. People suggesting a lower wattage power supply assumed you never had any intention of doing CrossfireX since you never mentioned it and you only wanted medium settings so CrossfireX was extremely overkill for what you wanted. | ||
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BreakBad
Germany62 Posts
 What is your budget? ~500 - 600 USD (allowing for a 10% buffer) What is your resolution? 1920 by 1080 What are you using it for? Gaming, streaming and other business (mostly Word, Excel and music) What is your upgrade cycle? Until my computer can't handle games at low settings When do you plan on building it? Within this month Do you plan on overclocking? Rarely, if ever Do you need an Operating System? Yes, I will probably sell this laptop when I build this new one Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Haven't yet so I probably won't since I don't know how they are used. Where are you buying your parts from? Good ol' USA (God bless America and everywhere else) | ||
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Uhh Negative
United States1090 Posts
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Aphoristic
United States9 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Anything seem out of place? I just ditched the 1 TB drive as I probably won't really need it (at least right away). | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
For a total of $589, this configuration will stream and play on low at 1080p smoothly: Intel Core i5 2400 @ $190 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 Asrock H61M-VS @ $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241 ASUS Radeon HD5670 @ $70 ($50 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121410 GSkill 2x2GB 1333MHz @ $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231253 Corsair CX 430 V2 @ $45 ($35 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026 Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $44 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073 Thermaltake V3 @ $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133094 Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986 @Uhh Negative So a recommended of a 400w power supply. The 450w is perfectly fine, I think you're overestimating how much power is required for each component. The GTX 560 Ti uses roughly 160w under load: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/geforce-gtx-560-ti_4.html#sect0 The 2500k uses roughly 60w under maximum load: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i5-2500-2400-2300_10.html#sect0 Add in 100w for the rest of your components along with a GPU and CPU overclock. You're sitting at 320w under load. Not to mention that gaming will never put the CPU under maximum load. If you don't feel confident in the 450w unit than I guess you can get the 550w variant or a higher wattage model from Antec, Seasonic, Corsair, or another reputable brand. @Aphoristic Everything looks good but I hope you know that 64gb is really small =\ | ||
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Aphoristic
United States9 Posts
Then what HDD should I get to go with it? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
If the HDD is going to act solely as a storage drive (photos, music, video, documents) than a Caviar Green: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136513 | ||
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BreakBad
Germany62 Posts
Thank you! You say stream and play on low at 1080p smoothly. If I do play separate from the stream will this setup handle max settings? If not, what needs to be changed for that and what would it cost? Also, I'm curious of the cost of a computer that an stream well on high quality settings.. How much would that run me (not that I want or need it)? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
You would need a better graphics card to play on high settings, this would cost roughly another $100 (Radeon HD6850, GTX 460, or better). If you were to say get rid of streaming requirement, you could get a core i3 2100 instead which would take roughly $65 off your total. Most games only utilize two cores so there would be little difference between the dual core processor (core i3 2100) and the quad core processor (core i5 2400). A quad core is necessary for streaming since the game will be using two cores and the two other cores will be used for your streaming. | ||
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BreakBad
Germany62 Posts
I will probably go up to the better graphics card. What one or two would be most cost effective graphics cards should I get? When I stream I don't want (or really need) to show my face on webcam. I can always move to that later. I really just want to stream voice and the game. Does this have any effect on the information you gave me? Again, thank you for your time | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
If not than the Radeon HD6850 for $160 ($150 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161348 Streaming is still dependent on the processor regardless of what you're streaming. | ||
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Ingenol
United States1328 Posts
I'm aware there's no reason they shouldn't be compatible, but at least in some cases they simply seem not to be. | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On June 05 2011 10:37 BreakBad wrote: @skyR I will probably go up to the better graphics card. What one or two would be most cost effective graphics cards should I get? When I stream I don't want (or really need) to show my face on webcam. I can always move to that later. I really just want to stream voice and the game. Does this have any effect on the information you gave me? Again, thank you for your time Was about to mention this as well; if you get this combo, http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.660601 you can afford this video card, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102878&cm_re=5830-_-14-102-878-_-Product and the rest of the components, dvd http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136238 hdd http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152244 ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211364 psu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026 os http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986 Subtotal: $574.92 case is upto you | ||
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BreakBad
Germany62 Posts
On June 05 2011 11:18 a176 wrote: Was about to mention this as well; if you get this combo, http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.660601 you can afford this video card, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102878&cm_re=5830-_-14-102-878-_-Product What does anyone else think of this? Are these things a better fit or a ore ideal situation and skyR's recommendation? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
The HD5830 is a good card and will be capable of handling Starcraft II on high but will struggle with other games on high. | ||
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BreakBad
Germany62 Posts
On June 05 2011 11:25 skyR wrote: A core i3 2100 won't be capable of smoothly streaming. The HD5830 is a good card and will be capable of handling Starcraft II on high but will struggle with other games on high. Would you recommend that card or a 1 step down card? All I will be playing on this computer at the moment is Starcraft 2, World of Warcraft and soon to be Diablo 3. You also said Asrock H61M-VS @ $60 but in a reply by Ingenol he talks about compatibility issues with Asrock boards. Are you positive all of the equipment work together? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Everything works together. Whether you experience problems that other users have had is dependent on your luck. Every manufacturer has had problems with their H61 / H67 / P67 series of boards. You can get a different board if you like: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138313 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130593&cm_re=h61-_-13-130-593-_-Product or another H61 board. | ||
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BreakBad
Germany62 Posts
Probably going to get his recommendation on those 3 items just in case. I haven't done any streaming yet so I'm sure I an hold it off for another month or 2 to get the cash for that processor. I'll probably take the rest of your recommendation though. Try to practice up before the world laughs at me  | ||
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