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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Jorrod
Profile Joined August 2010
United States5 Posts
April 13 2011 19:44 GMT
#4261
On April 14 2011 01:40 Myrmidon wrote:
If you can buy it in time, this 2 x 4GB DDR3 is $70 (with promo code):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231426

GTX 460 768MB is a little better than the SE version, and this Asus DirectCU is somewhat factory OC'd too and cheaper at $140 (before $30 MIR):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121390

Earthwatts Green 380D is a little better and cheaper now than the Corsair CX430 (both have same +12V rating anyway, so you're not losing any power there), though both are going to have to use a molex -> 6 pin power connector for a GTX 460:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033

Despite the name, Antec One Hundred is pretty much just an alternate Three Hundred with a few more features, and it's going for $10 less:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129098

I agree with the hard drive suggestion.

With all those savings combined, you have room for a good SSD like the Crucial C300, if you want:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148357


Thanks for the suggestions. I am tempted to pick up the SSD if I do not get a better video card, any opinions on which I should do? Do you have any suggestions for a video card in the $180 - $250 range? Also, will the power supply still be sufficient for a better video card.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 19:47:56
April 13 2011 19:45 GMT
#4262
@DragoonPK

You cannot overclock on the H61 chipset and you cannot do SLI or CrossfireX either. If you are looking to do either, you are going to have to pay premium for a P67 chipset and a core i5 2500k. Keep in mind that there is also no USB3 or SATA3 on the H61 chipset; if you are looking at adding a SSD later or have external devices that take advantage of USB3, you would want a H67 chipset.

A quality 400w power supply is perfectly capable of powering your configuration. There is not much of a selection at the retailer you listed and I do not know the OEM of the Coolermaster or Mushkin model so I can't comment much about it.

If you're looking to play games besides Starcraft 2, it is best to go for a Radeon 6850. This card has the potential of being flashed to a 6870.

@dandan23

Swan M10, Edifier S330, Klipsch PM2.1, and Corsair SP2200 are some $100 speakers that come to mind.

@Jorrod

The power supply is still sufficient for any mid-range graphics card.

You have these choices to choose from in the $180 - $250 range:

Radeon 6850 ($175)
GTX 460 1GB ($200)
Radeon 6870 ($210)
Radeon 6950 1GB ($240)
GTX 560 ($250)
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
April 13 2011 19:51 GMT
#4263
I wonder if there are other options in Bahrain. For sure, the CM eXtreme Power from Acbel is junk, though I guess it would work at the kind of low loads you'd be using:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eXtreme-Power-Plus-500-W-Power-Supply-Review/728
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/02/16/entry_level_power_supply_roundup/2
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
April 13 2011 19:59 GMT
#4264
@SkyR

Which motherboard from those: http://www.advantionline.com/Intel-Motherboards/
Would be the best in my case in your opinion?

In addition, how well would a Radeon 6850 run something like Cryisis 2 on 1680x1050 highest (just a benchmark)?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 13 2011 20:07 GMT
#4265
@DragoonPK

You can look at various reviews to see performance numbers for yourself of various cards, here are simply two reviews:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3987/amds-radeon-6870-6850-renewing-competition-in-the-midrange-market/8

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6850-6870-review/19

Your only options at that retailer are:

ASUS P8H67-M LE/CSM (your original choice) - this will be fine if you do not plan on overclocking, doing SLI / CrossfireX, are not upgrading to an SSD later, or have external devices that take advantage of USB3

ASUS P8P67-M Pro - if you want to overclock (keep in mind you need a core i5 2500k as well) or do CrossfireX

ASUS P8P67 Sabertooth - if you are looking to do SLI
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
April 13 2011 20:23 GMT
#4266
@SkyR

Thanks! Really appreciate your help :D!
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
April 13 2011 20:37 GMT
#4267
@SkyR

One more question, Its ok to just get the ASUS P8P67-M Pro for USB 3.0 and possible SSD expansion and still get the ir 2500 right? I mean I don't really want to OC the CPU since I think its pretty damn good as it is.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 13 2011 20:37 GMT
#4268
Yes you can do that.
Jorrod
Profile Joined August 2010
United States5 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 20:51:36
April 13 2011 20:51 GMT
#4269
On April 14 2011 04:45 skyR wrote:
@Jorrod

The power supply is still sufficient for any mid-range graphics card.

You have these choices to choose from in the $180 - $250 range:

Radeon 6850 ($175)
GTX 460 1GB ($200)
Radeon 6870 ($210)
Radeon 6950 1GB ($240)
GTX 560 ($250)


@skyR
Thank you for the chart. Any advice on these two cards.

GIGABYTE GV-N560OC-1GI GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi)
link

EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1563-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi)
link
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 13 2011 20:54 GMT
#4270
@Jorrod

The EVGA comes with a lifetime warranty upon registration as opposed to Gigabyte's three year warranty. The Gigabyte one has a very good heatsink so it'll be quieter, cooler, and have more overclocking potential.

It basically comes down to whether you want to pay a $20 premium for lifetime warranty.
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
April 13 2011 21:28 GMT
#4271
Does anyone know how to make a graphics card quieter, and maybe cooler. I'm running a Sapphire HD4870, and the fan is too loud at minimum. It idles at 60 and can be heard from 4m away, just barely. It's also the loudest thing in my computer, which is inaudible if the graphics card fan is off.
There is no one like you in the universe.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 13 2011 21:28 GMT
#4272
@Blisse

Use MSI Afterburner and manually adjust your fanspeed.
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 22:06:48
April 13 2011 21:52 GMT
#4273
On April 14 2011 06:28 skyR wrote:
@Blisse

Use MSI Afterburner and manually adjust your fanspeed.


Minimum is 24%. At least that's the minimum RivaTuner gives me.

Same with Afterburner. 24% is lowest, and still very audible.

@skyr, only thing keeping me from doing that is what to buy and me being afraid to open up the card.
I'm not sure how much I cleaned the card though.
There is no one like you in the universe.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 13 2011 21:55 GMT
#4274
If it's still too loud after you manually adjusted the fanspeed and cleared the dust out of the heatsink than your only option would be to buy an aftermarket heatsink to replace the stock one on your graphics card or buy a new graphics card.
NinjoOb
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada128 Posts
April 14 2011 00:37 GMT
#4275
Hi guys, I'm stuck again.

I'm installing my motherboard into the case, but I'm not sure what screws to use. I read somewhere that you put the golden colored screws in first then screw the regular ones on top of those, is that correct ?

Also there are some little metal pieces that stick out on the IO shield (towards the inside of the case), making it hard to push the motheboard against it in order for the screw holes to lineup. Should I just bend them a bit ?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 14 2011 00:44 GMT
#4276
Standoffs should be installed onto the nine specified locations in the case and than your motherboard goes ontop of these and you screw in the motherboard

This is what a standoff looks like:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


There shouldn't be metal sticking out of the I/O shield. If you can take a picture of it, it'll give us a better understanding of what you are talking about.
NinjoOb
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada128 Posts
April 14 2011 01:14 GMT
#4277
Oh ok, I have it installed now, I was doing something terribly wrong with the screws and the standoffs... I won't go into the details because it's pretty embarassing

Anyway, you can see what I meant in this video :



at 3:42, he mentions "flaps" that you can bend a little bit.
Anyway, like i said, I managed to install the mobo without forcing anything so I guess it doesn't really matter.

Many thanks again !
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 14 2011 01:47 GMT
#4278
@getone321

Total comes to $660 before taxes, mail in rebates, etc. You're looking at around ~$750 after shipping insurance, 5% GST, and recycling fee.

There's a limited supply (50) of the processor & motherboard combo so act quick. You'll looking to add ~$20 onto your total if you miss it =p

Core i3 2100 & MSI H61M-P21 Bundle @ $170
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=60593&promoid=1317

MSI Geforce GTS 450 @ $110
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=57924&promoid=1317

Corsair 2x2GB 1333MHz @ $40
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=40072&promoid=1317

Corsair CX430 @ $40 (pricematched with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11180AC5606 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=54842

Coolermaster 310 @ $36 (pricematched with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/216705/COOLERMASTER/RC_310_BWN1_GP/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=39592

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $40
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=58402&promoid=1317

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $94 (pricematched with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/222137/GFC-00599/MICROSOFT/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45271

BenQ G2222HDH 21.5" 1920x1080 @ $130
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=52148&promoid=1317
Soft`Soap
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada865 Posts
April 14 2011 03:47 GMT
#4279
Hey I was looking at that case and I was wondering if I asked them to trade my case in for the one you recommended to getone321 (if it's still a possibility) if it would fit all my needS?

my build is as follows
+ Show Spoiler +

Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 4GB 2X2GB PC3-10666 DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit
55546 1 $39.99 $39.99
Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB SATA3 6GB/S 7200RPM 32MB Cache 3.5IN Dual Proc Hard Drive OEM
57432 1 $63.21 $63.21
Price Match Request(subject to approval) $43.79 $43.79
Corsair Builder Series CMPSU-430CX 430W ATX Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan *2 Year Warranty*
54842 1 $29.99 $29.99
Silverstone Precision PS04B ATX Black Mid Tower Case 4X5.25 1X3.5 5X3.5INT No PS
54275 1 $39.99 $39.99
Price Match Request(subject to approval) $35.16 $35.16
Samsung SH-S223C 22X DVD Writer SATA Black OEM
46792 1 $25.99 $25.99
Price Match Request(subject to approval) $16.79 $16.79
NCIX Value Bundle Deal Intel Core i3 2100 Processor & Gigabyte H61M-D2P-B3 H61 Motherboard
FREE GROUND SHIPPING FOR THIS ORDER!
This product can only be exchanged or replaced with the exact same item.
59963 1 $189.99 $189.99
1 x Intel Core i3 2100 Dual Core Hyperthreading Processor LGA1155 3.1GHZ Sandy Bridge 3MB
1 x Gigabyte GA-H61M-D2P-B3 mATX LGA1155 H61 DDR3 1PCI-E16 1PCI-E 2PCI SATA2 DVI Video Sound Motherboard
MSI GeForce GTS 450 Fermi OC 850MHZ 4GHZ 1024MB 1GB GDDR5 2XDVI Mini-HDMI DX11 PCI-E *IR-$13*
57924 1 $109.99 $109.99
1 x FREE Ubisoft Tom Clancy H.A.W.X 2 (PC Game) Coupon for Digital Download *NVIDIA Promo Only*

NOTE: Free gifts can only be claimed in this shopping cart and cannot be added after the order is processed.
BenQ G2222HDH Black 21.5IN Widescreen LCD Monitor 1920X1080 5ms 40000:1DC VGA HDMI *IR-$25*
Electronics Recycling Fee $12.00 Per Item
FREE GROUND SHIPPING FOR THIS ITEM!
52148 1 $129.99 $129.99
Price Match Request(subject to approval) $127.60 $127.60
PC Assembly and Testing With 1 Year Limited NCIX System Warranty (PRE-CONFIG WIN. OS If Purchased)
Electronics Recycling Fee $10.00 Per Item
Note: PC Assembly & Testing does not include servers and requires an additional 4-5 business days to ship once all parts are in stock. NCIX will install aftermarket heatsinks or pre-filled CPU liquid coolers. 1 Year Limited Warranty on installed system parts.
7842 1 $50.00 $50.00
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT DVD OEM
45271 1 $123.98 $123.98
Price Match Request(subject to approval) $93.79 $93.79


The case looks pretty cool, but if it doesn't fit my needs then no big deal lol. Or if they email me telling me that it's too late
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 14 2011 03:48 GMT
#4280
You can call them and ask but it'll probably delay your order / too late already.
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