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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
April 12 2011 13:46 GMT
#4221
does fully modular really matter that much to you? theres only one cable ive got to hide and thats the spare 4+4 one, it really wont matter that much man.

if you really need fully modular, you could try the silverstone ST60F-P, but i dunno about its performance
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 13:49:08
April 12 2011 13:48 GMT
#4222
On April 12 2011 22:46 Legatus Lanius wrote:
does fully modular really matter that much to you? theres only one cable ive got to hide and thats the spare 4+4 one, it really wont matter that much man.

if you really need fully modular, you could try the silverstone ST60F-P, but i dunno about its performance

It's not a deal-breaker, but I'm not sure there's reason to spend extra on a 750W PSU for a single GPU system. I should be okay with a quality 600W, no?
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 13:54:44
April 12 2011 13:51 GMT
#4223
i have a 6950 and a 2500k, and its plenty lol. you could run two 6950s with 600watts

iirc, the xfx black is based off the seasonic m12d, and its a great psu, and pretty cheap too. you wont need all the wattage but its a better psu than the silverstone one
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 15:00:37
April 12 2011 14:43 GMT
#4224
@Ingenol

Even a quality 500w unit will be capable of running a single 6950 but fully and semi modular ones usually don't start that low or come at a very high premium.

Fully modular PSUs:

Silverstone Strider Plus 600w @ $110 (42a on 12v, 3 year warranty)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256064

Seasonic X560 @ $125 (46a on 12v, 5 year warranty)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151098

Seasonic X650 @ $140 (54a on 12v, 5 year warranty)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088

Corsair AX750 @ $170 (62a on 12v, 7 year warranty)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139016

Semi modular PSUs:

Antec Truepower New 650W @ $80 (54a on 12v, 5 year warranty)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371021

XFX XXX Edition 650W @ $89 (52a on 12v, 5 year warranty)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207007
nastyndog
Profile Joined January 2011
United States43 Posts
April 12 2011 14:44 GMT
#4225
Modular is nice but not necessary if you're careful with your cabling. I would still recommend spending the extra money you save by not getting modular on a more robust PSU though. 1) it gives you room to upgrade to more powerful/higher wattage parts in the future. 2) The more headroom you have the less strain it is on your PSU meaning it will generate less heat and might last longer as well. 3) I don't actually have a third reason I just think thats lists in three's are prettier :D
"I whip my hair grack and forth" - Day9
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
April 12 2011 14:51 GMT
#4226
skyr, i dont think the tx v2 series is modular
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 12 2011 15:00 GMT
#4227
On April 12 2011 23:51 Legatus Lanius wrote:
skyr, i dont think the tx v2 series is modular


ops my bad =p
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
April 12 2011 15:02 GMT
#4228
Thanks guys! I'm just going to go with the Antec TP-650. It's not worth it to pay extra for fully modular for me right now.
ForgottenOne
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 15:41:50
April 12 2011 15:41 GMT
#4229
Urgent: I am building my computer right now. The CPU cooler that comes in the box already has some thermal paste applied. Should I also apply some more? I'm thinking to replace the cooler in the future and don't want to have my CPU muddied with paste and not actually being cooled properly by the next cooler if I would add a second layer then.
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Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
April 12 2011 15:43 GMT
#4230
is the xxx edition the same as the black edition, just lower watts? i mean, same oem and all that?
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 15:50:50
April 12 2011 15:43 GMT
#4231
On April 13 2011 00:41 ForgottenOne wrote:
Urgent: I am building my computer right now. The CPU cooler that comes in the box already has some thermal paste applied. Should I also apply some more? I'm thinking to replace the cooler in the future and don't want to have my CPU muddied with paste and not actually being cooled properly by the next cooler if I would add a second layer then.


You do not need to apply thermal paste if it is already pre-applied. If you want to use your own aftermarket thermal paste, you'll need to remove the pre-applied thermal paste before applying yours.

When you are replacing your heatsink, you should always remove the old thermal paste and apply a new layer.

On April 13 2011 00:43 Legatus Lanius wrote:
is the xxx edition the same as the black edition, just lower watts? i mean, same oem and all that?


All of XFX's power supplies are made by Seasonic.
nastyndog
Profile Joined January 2011
United States43 Posts
April 12 2011 16:17 GMT
#4232
removing old thermal paste isnt that bad. just rub it off with a soft cloth and some rubbing alcohol. skyr is right, you should always use new thermal paste.
"I whip my hair grack and forth" - Day9
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 16:52:48
April 12 2011 16:52 GMT
#4233
Need computer, already have : HDD,PSU(maybe, might need)Case and Ram
Budget: 400$~

Resolution: 1024x768

What am i using it for: Play SC2 on medium ish settings with steady fps(current drops down to about 10 in big battles -.-

Upgrade Cycle: year or two

When do u plan on building it: Asap

Overlocking: no

help meeee :D
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 12 2011 17:03 GMT
#4234
@arb

Uh does this budget require an operating system?

Is your RAM DDR3?

What does maybe might need a PSU mean?

Is your case ATX or mATX?

~$300 would get you a Core i3 2100, H61 / H67 motherboard, and a GTS 450 / Radeon 5770.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
April 12 2011 17:09 GMT
#4235
On April 13 2011 02:03 skyR wrote:
@arb

Uh does this budget require an operating system?

Is your RAM DDR3?

What does maybe might need a PSU mean?

Is your case ATX or mATX?

~$300 would get you a Core i3 2100, H61 / H67 motherboard, and a GTS 450 / Radeon 5770.

no i have an OS, but since im not tech savvy, where could i find the watts(?) of my power supply, to make sure it'd work with the gfx card or whatever

im such a noob at computers =[
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 12 2011 17:11 GMT
#4236
You would have to open up your computer and look at the label on the side of the power supply. If this is a prebuilt by Dell / HP than you are better off building an entirely new computer... power supplies that come with these are generally crap and the case is also generally crap.

So is your RAM DDR3? DDR2 and DDR3 are not interchangeable ...
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 20:49:52
April 12 2011 20:49 GMT
#4237
On April 13 2011 00:43 Legatus Lanius wrote:
is the xxx edition the same as the black edition, just lower watts? i mean, same oem and all that?


XXX edition and black edition are both by Seasonic, but the black edition is significantly better. They're different designs though. Black edition is their M12D, which is still really good--better in some ways than the X series even. It uses DC-DC to generate 3.3V/5V from 12V, unlike the traditional individual regulation of the XXX edition. The XXX edition is very good too, other than some really bad high 3.3V/5V with low 12V crossloading results. But those kinds of loads you'll never see on a modern computer, so it's safe.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 23:50:30
April 12 2011 23:49 GMT
#4238
On April 13 2011 02:11 skyR wrote:
You would have to open up your computer and look at the label on the side of the power supply. If this is a prebuilt by Dell / HP than you are better off building an entirely new computer... power supplies that come with these are generally crap and the case is also generally crap.

So is your RAM DDR3? DDR2 and DDR3 are not interchangeable ...

its 3gig DDR2

power supply is industry standard 220 watt
(i can assume ill be needing a new psu)
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 13 2011 00:05 GMT
#4239
On April 13 2011 08:49 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 02:11 skyR wrote:
You would have to open up your computer and look at the label on the side of the power supply. If this is a prebuilt by Dell / HP than you are better off building an entirely new computer... power supplies that come with these are generally crap and the case is also generally crap.

So is your RAM DDR3? DDR2 and DDR3 are not interchangeable ...

its 3gig DDR2

power supply is industry standard 220 watt
(i can assume ill be needing a new psu)


So you would need a new everything except for the case, hdd, and dvd-drive. Total comes to $392 before mail in rebates:

Core i3 2100 & Gigabyte H61M-D2P Bundle @ $192
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.622953

Sapphire Radeon 5770 @ $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102873

Antec Earthwatts 380W @ $40 ($25 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033

Crucial 2x2GB @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148262
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
April 13 2011 00:33 GMT
#4240
On April 13 2011 09:05 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 08:49 arb wrote:
On April 13 2011 02:11 skyR wrote:
You would have to open up your computer and look at the label on the side of the power supply. If this is a prebuilt by Dell / HP than you are better off building an entirely new computer... power supplies that come with these are generally crap and the case is also generally crap.

So is your RAM DDR3? DDR2 and DDR3 are not interchangeable ...

its 3gig DDR2

power supply is industry standard 220 watt
(i can assume ill be needing a new psu)


So you would need a new everything except for the case, hdd, and dvd-drive. Total comes to $392 before mail in rebates:

Core i3 2100 & Gigabyte H61M-D2P Bundle @ $192
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.622953

Sapphire Radeon 5770 @ $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102873

Antec Earthwatts 380W @ $40 ($25 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033

Crucial 2x2GB @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148262

Much much appreciated! :D
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