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Nortac
United States375 Posts
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getone321
Canada5 Posts
On April 07 2011 15:37 MiXyass wrote: Okay guys, I did the changes and my grand total comes to $852.22 which is AWESOME! I am super excited right now, BUT I just want to double check everything with you guys to make sure that I'm getting the right stuff. My build is as follows: Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 4GB 2X2GB PC3-10666 DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit $39.99 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=55546&promoid=1312 Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB SATA3 6GB/S 7200RPM 32MB Cache 3.5IN Dual Proc Hard Drive OEM Pricematched at $44.00 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=57432 Corsair Builder Series CMPSU-430CX 430W ATX Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan *2 Year Warranty* $29.99 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=54842&promoid=1312 Silverstone Precision PS04B ATX Black Mid Tower Case 4X5.25 1X3.5 5X3.5INT No PS $39.99 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=54275&promoid=1312 Samsung SH-S223C 22X DVD Writer SATA Black OEM $17.00 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=46792 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT DVD OEM $94 NCIX Value Bundle Deal Intel Core i3 2100 Processor & Gigabyte H61M-D2P-B3 H61 Motherboard $190 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=59963&promoid=1312 MSI GeForce GTS 450 Fermi OC 850MHZ 4GHZ 1024MB 1GB GDDR5 2XDVI Mini-HDMI DX11 PCI-E *IR-$13* $110 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=57924 BenQ G2222HDH Black 21.5IN Widescreen LCD Monitor 1920X1080 5ms 40000:1DC VGA HDMI *IR-$25* $130 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=52148 Labour $50 Total after pricematch: $744.94 Checkout Summary Shipping & Handling: $15.00 Shipping Insurance: $23.20 Electronics Recycling Fee : $22.00 Important Notice: Please note that system assembly adds 2-4 business days processing time to your order if all parts are in stock. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Subtotal: $811.64 No PST - Outside BC residents: $0.00 GST(5%): $40.58 YOUR TOTAL: CAD $852.22 I hope I'm not missing anything I'm also buying the max insurance and paying for purolator (I'm assuming it's safer than the 'free' shipping?) @ Skyr I was looking at the posts and the build that you recommended for mixmyass seems to be around my budget. I won't be paying for someone to assemble it for me, but I will need to buy a keyboard so the same set-up is exactly my budget. What I'm sort of worried about is that the build will not meet my expectations so I'm curious on what your input would be. I want to be able to play SCII on ultra or at least on high, and I play for about 8 hours a day, so I need a computer that can handle 8 hours a day of scii on high/ultra for about 2 years. I'm also wondering how loud the computer will be? I know that the video card you recommended there is massive and has a big fan. I also have speakers that drain about 64w of power and I wouldn't mind spending extra money on a safer power supply. If that particular computer won't meet my high/ultra expectations for a long period of time, what will I need to change on it? Just the processor? or the video card as well? I want to be able to keep that monitor as it seems like a really good deal and I would want to try to stay on budget. + Show Spoiler + What is your budget? My budget is around 850.00 including shipping, taxes, insurance, recycling fee, monitor, OS, and a keyboard. What is your resolution? My desired resolution is 1980x1080 What are you using it for? Just SCII What is your upgrade cycle? 2.5 years When do you plan on building it? Within a week Do you plan on overclocking? No Do you need an Operating System? Yes Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No Where are you buying your parts from? newegg or ncix I'm from Calgary as well | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Nearly the same thing, total comes to $749 before mail in rebates. If you need to lower the cost some more and don't care about USB 3 / SATA 3, you can step down to a H61 motherboard and that will shave ~$25 off the total. You could also step down to a Radeon 5770 if you want to further save money. Core i5 2400 @ $190 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 Asrock H67M @ $95 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157233 Crucial 2x2GB @ $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148262 MSI Radeon 6850 Cyclone @ $175 ($160 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127576 Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB @ $50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181 Coolermaster Elite 330 @ $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119115 Antec Earthwatts 380D @ $40 ($25 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033 Windows 7 Home Premium @ $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754 DVD Drive @ $19 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136216 | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
It shouldn't be that loud unless some fan develops a problem or something like that. One thing to keep in mind is that the cheaper cases including that Silverstone Precision tend to have flimsier construction and thinner panels, which can lead to greater noise. But I wouldn't expect anything too noisy there since none of the parts inside should be problematic. Anyway, that build should play at ultra if you don't mind a few framerate drops here and there. High should be easy for the GTS 450. Power supply deal is over, so get this XFX Core 450W instead (it should be more reliable than the CX430 anyway, and both have overkill wattage for your purposes): http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=59614 Speakers don't draw power from the computer's power supply, so that's irrelevant. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Note that some of these deals are over and that their new sale will start tomorrow (13th). I can come up with a new build for you tomorrow if you'd like. Keep in mind that you can always use MSI Afterburner to manually adjust your fan speeds to get a comfortable noise / cooling performance balance for your graphics card. The stock heatsink that Intel gives you can be quite loud so if you find this to be a problem, you can pay for an aftermarket heatsink such as the Coolermaster Hyper 212+ for ~$25. | ||
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getone321
Canada5 Posts
On April 13 2011 11:56 Myrmidon wrote: @getone321: It shouldn't be that loud unless some fan develops a problem or something like that. One thing to keep in mind is that the cheaper cases including that Silverstone Precision tend to have flimsier construction and thinner panels, which can lead to greater noise. But I wouldn't expect anything too noisy there since none of the parts inside should be problematic. Anyway, that build should play at ultra if you don't mind a few framerate drops here and there. High should be easy for the GTS 450. Power supply deal is over, so get this XFX Core 450W instead (it should be more reliable than the CX430 anyway, and both have overkill wattage for your purposes): http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=59614 Speakers don't draw power from the computer's power supply, so that's irrelevant. Sweet, so I should go ahead and purchase the same computer he did but just change the power supply? I didn't know about the speakers so I guess I won't even need a bigger power supply. One thing that sort of concerns me is that I play for a really long time. Matter of fact, I am getting the line of death from the bottom of screen due to my videocard being overheated(on my laptop), and that is something I definitely want to avoid. With that in mind, if you feel that I shouldn't have any of those problems with the case that is provided on that build and that the processor and the graphics card will be able to handle my longperiod gaming at a high resolution and high graphics, then I'm okay with doing that. Is there a way you could set me up a similar build when the new deals start? And also maybe some video tutorials on how to build it myself? I usually play with headphones so I don't really care too much about the sound BUT i will be putting the computer in the room where me and my wife sleep, so should you recommend that I buy that extra heatsink for the noise? Or will it not even be big enough to bother her while she sleeps? Also, I notice that the fans are around the bottom on the tower and I will be placing my computer on carpet, does that matter? Will I need to lift my computer so it's not touching carpet? I know when i put my laptop on the carpet it will overheat within 30 minutes :S | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
I can configure a similar build for you tomorrow when their new sale starts at ~6pm PST. Overheating should not be an issue with any custom built desktop. The problem with placing a computer on a carpet is that it'll gather up dust quicker so you'll have to clean it more. One other possible problem is if the case has a bottom mounted power supply, you may want to mount the power supply with its fan facing upwards. It's hard to tell you if she'll be bothered by the computer while she's sleeping as everybody's comfort level is different. Fans on the components should be near silent when the computer is idle, the most audible part of a computer during idle would be your case fans. Here's two tutorials on building a computer: + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcR8Fl8cwZk | ||
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getone321
Canada5 Posts
On April 13 2011 12:45 skyR wrote: @getone321 I can configure a similar build for you tomorrow when their new sale starts at ~6pm PST. Overheating should not be an issue with any custom built desktop. The problem with placing a computer on a carpet is that it'll gather up dust quicker so you'll have to clean it more. One other possible problem is if the case has a bottom mounted power supply, you may want to mount the power supply with its fan facing upwards. It's hard to tell you if she'll be bothered by the computer while she's sleeping as everybody's comfort level is different. Fans on the components should be near silent when the computer is idle, the most audible part of a computer during idle would be your case fans. Here's two tutorials on building a computer: + Show Spoiler + Sweet, that would be greatly appreciated. I will look at the tutorials tonight so I can get a better idea on how to build it. | ||
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NinjoOb
Canada128 Posts
Since I bought a Coolermaster Hyper 212+, I don't need to use the smaller fan provided with the cpu right ? And also, if I understand correctly, I need to apply some thermal compound on both the cpu and on the top part of the fan correct ? | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
You need to apply a small amount of thermal compound on the base of the cooler, where there should be a "remove me" sticker. Don't use the paste anywhere else, it won't do anything but get your hands dirty. Just a suggestion but install the cooler on the motherboard before putting it into the case because the Hyper 212+ is one of the trickier ones to install, especially in cramped locations. | ||
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ensign_lee
United States1178 Posts
Stock speeds (3.7 Ghz boost) on my i5 2500k were 1.272V on my original board. With the new one, it requires 1.296! Overclock to 4.5 Ghz on my original board was 1.284, sometimes 1.272V. with the new one, it requries 1.32!!!! O.o Is this just me or are other people seeing this too? | ||
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mav451
United States1596 Posts
On April 14 2011 00:07 NinjoOb wrote: I'm currently putting my computer together, but I have a few questions. Since I bought a Coolermaster Hyper 212+, I don't need to use the smaller fan provided with the cpu right ? And also, if I understand correctly, I need to apply some thermal compound on both the cpu and on the top part of the fan correct ? HDT's require a specific method of applying the thermal paste, see here: http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=170&Itemid=38&limit=1&limitstart=5 The 212+ has 4 pipes, so you'd be making 3 separate lines instead of just two. | ||
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Jorrod
United States5 Posts
Budget: $800 Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $59.95 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042 Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $89.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533 EVGA 01G-P3-1366-TR GeForce GTX 460 SE (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $149.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130591 LITE-ON Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 - OEM $17.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106276 CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V v2.2 SLI Certified $109.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006 CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 $94.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145315 Combo(Motherboard + CPU) $264.98 Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.631830 MSI H67MS-E43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.631830 Total: $787.88 Any suggestions on how to optimize this setup would be appreciated | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
On April 14 2011 01:16 Jorrod wrote: Any suggestions on how to optimize this setup would be appreciated Swap WD Caviar Black with Samsung F3 Spinpoint to save $20. You don't need any PSU more powerful than this. especially since you don't want to overclock. You can get $14 cheaper memory.. Bare memory without heatspreaders work fine. Otherwise, everything else is fine, you might need to fiddle with the graphics settings to run Ultra really well but it can definitely do high settings no problem. | ||
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Zorgon
United States211 Posts
On April 14 2011 01:27 Womwomwom wrote: Swap WD Caviar Black with Samsung F3 Spinpoint to save $20. You don't need any PSU more powerful than this. especially since you don't want to overclock. You can get $14 cheaper memory.. Bare memory without heatspreaders work fine. Otherwise, everything else is fine, you might need to fiddle with the graphics settings to run Ultra really well but it can definitely do high settings no problem. This GTX 460 768MB will perform better the 460SE at the same price. | ||
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Jorrod
United States5 Posts
On April 14 2011 01:31 Zorgon wrote: This GTX 460 768MB will perform better the 460SE at the same price. Thanks for the quick responses. These changes will free up about $100, should I invest this in a better graphics card? | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231426 GTX 460 768MB is a little better than the SE version, and this Asus DirectCU is somewhat factory OC'd too and cheaper at $140 (before $30 MIR): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121390 Earthwatts Green 380D is a little better and cheaper now than the Corsair CX430 (both have same +12V rating anyway, so you're not losing any power there), though both are going to have to use a molex -> 6 pin power connector for a GTX 460: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033 Despite the name, Antec One Hundred is pretty much just an alternate Three Hundred with a few more features, and it's going for $10 less: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129098 I agree with the hard drive suggestion. With all those savings combined, you have room for a good SSD like the Crucial C300, if you want: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148357 | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
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dandan23
Malaysia101 Posts
the only one i know in the good price range is the logitech z 623 anything around that price range is awesome ? ^^ | ||
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DragoonPK
3259 Posts
 , so here goes:Budget: Less than 1000 USD, 800 is the perfect target. Resolution: 1680x1050 on a 22inch Flatron W2271TC Used for: Gaming, browsing, possible streaming, watching stuff. Upgrade Cycle: 2-3 years. Time of building: by end of May. Overclocking: Nope, not now at least. Need OS: Yes. Plan for SLI or Crossfire: No, possible in the future. Buying parts from: Since I am in Bahrain, this is the best store we have around here http://www.advantionline.com/ However I do have a P.O. Box in the US and the UK, but ordering larger things will cause a ton of shipment money. Ok so here is the current Build I have in mind: CPU: Intel core i5-2500 sandybridge 3.3ghz Motherboard: ASUS P8H61-M LE/CSM (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard ( I am not sure how good this is , should I go with it? ) GPU: My cheapest choice is the 5770, but I reckon its getting old. So I am not sure weather to go for a 6790, 6850 or a 6870. Harddrive: 500GB 7200rpm Memory: Mushkin 4GB DD3. OS: Windows 7 64bit home premium Power supply: No clue, if someone can recommend me one from the site I listed above or if not , what do you recommend to support this build? Chassis: Cooler Master USP 100 Black Mid Tower Case Thanks in advance | ||
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