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Cyro
United Kingdom20333 Posts
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Ata
Canada356 Posts
560-Ti Twin Frozr i5-2500K Gigabyte Z68 D2H Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 8GB 2X4GB XFX Core Edition Pro 450 Coolermaster HAF 912 Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB Samsung DVDRW 22X Coolermaster Hyper 212+ Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB Windows 7 In Canada, I quickly put togther a system from ncix with a 650 Ti Boost @ $165 (cheapest 7850 was $190 i think) and other similar components: cheapest 3750k, $100 mobo, cheapest 64GB ssd, cheapest 500 GB harddrive, cheapest dvd... it came to $913 before tax and shipping and im thinking a -% of that. I might be selling it to a coworker as im not really playing much. Thanks | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On April 13 2013 00:59 findingthelimit wrote: hey guys, i'm having trouble shutting my hyper 212+ up. i boot into BIOS, and when I tab to the fan settings instead of having settings as high, medium, and low, it asks what I want my max temp to be. I assume it adjusts accordingly, so if i set my max temps to 90, my fan would stop running, no problem. but obviously, i don't want my computer to explode... the default one is 50 celcius, and my computer is extremely extremely loud, even when i'm on the windows desktop. quite strange, as i have a good i5 3570, 8gbs of ram, and a modest 450w gold-cert psu. my gpu is 7870 if it matters... are the asrock motherboards just stranger than the other ones? i have a h77 pro4-mvp. also, there are built-in fan controllers in my antec 900, but i've set them all on low manually already. i don't think it made much of a difference. Look into SpeedFan. The default and relatively easy to set up configuration for SpeedFan is where you set up a temperature you want to have, and SpeedFan then increases and decreases the fan speed in 5 % steps around that temperature. That's pretty bad and not any better than what you have in the BIOS, but there's another "advanced" scheme for SpeedFan that will help you and fix all your problems. With the "advanced control" part of SpeedFan's configuration window, you can set up a curve which translates a certain CPU temperature into a certain fan PWM percentage. You could let the fan run at something that feels quiet to you for up to 50 C, then ramp up to 60 % when going onto 75 C, then let it end at 100 % for 95 C. The ASRock motherboard I've seen had a very good positioned sensor for the CPU temperature. I don't know where it was, but it was very well suited to get a smoothly functioning fan speed scheme in SpeedFan set up as it seemed to be a good guess of what the coolers temperature was. That sensor was much more useful than Intel's temperature readings from the CPU itself as those go up and down a lot. It's very annoying to learn how SpeedFan works, but it will do what you want. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On April 12 2013 10:57 Cyro wrote: He's doing overnight custom blend ~95% max RAM, increased priority, error checking, round off checking, checking WHEA errors, etc. Took a big amount of pushing to have a single failure at 1.275v bios across various tests (which was not reproducable running the fft lengh it failed on for 20 mins), so went up to 1.285. I doubt it'll fail overnight custom blend or IBT. This is 5ghz - pretty crazy. Temps more than acceptable without delid, because voltages are so low. http://i.imgur.com/I1DwriU.jpg You could probably go 5.1 or even 5.2 24/7 with this kind of chip with just a hr-02 macho and no delid, wouldn't want belial to get his hands on one >.> I see no one is reacting on the 12v readings, it reassures me because mine (on my new build) is at 8v. As everything works perfectly I didn't posted to ask if it was normal, but it seems it is =) | ||
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mav451
United States1596 Posts
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thom
England105 Posts
 Believe me MrCon when I saw that 12V reading I ran straight for my multimeter and tested it properly myself, and all is well  HWMonitor was telling lies! | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On April 13 2013 01:34 Ata wrote:+ Show Spoiler + I was wondering how much you guys would put this on sale for: 560-Ti Twin Frozr i5-2500K Gigabyte Z68 D2H Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 8GB 2X4GB XFX Core Edition Pro 450 Coolermaster HAF 912 Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB Samsung DVDRW 22X Coolermaster Hyper 212+ Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB Windows 7 In Canada, I quickly put togther a system from ncix with a 650 Ti Boost @ $165 (cheapest 7850 was $190 i think) and other similar components: cheapest 3750k, $100 mobo, cheapest 64GB ssd, cheapest 500 GB harddrive, cheapest dvd... it came to $913 before tax and shipping and im thinking a -% of that. I might be selling it to a coworker as im not really playing much. Thanks Probably $700-$800 | ||
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Craton
United States17288 Posts
The GPU needs a single 6-pin. I have two adapters: One has 2 male molex cables going to a 6 pin connector with the bottom middle connector empty (farthest away from the clip). The other has a single male connector and the 6 pin connector has that same slot double cabled (yellow) with one looping around to the bottom left slot. Which should I send? | ||
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Rollin
Australia1552 Posts
On April 13 2013 08:36 Craton wrote: My brother is replacing a PSU in my Mom's PC and naturally didn't get the PSU I told him to* (got a cheap as fuck one with no 6 / 8 pin connectors). If he ignored you the first time personally I wouldn't bother saying anything further. Also, it probably has no 6/8 pin connectors for a reason, what kind of gpu are we talking about, an integrated graphics replacement level one? | ||
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NihiLStarcraft
Denmark1413 Posts
Motherboard: ASRock H77M (EUR 71,92) CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz (EUR 198,55) GPU: Zotac NVIDIA GTX 650 2GB DDR5 (EUR 100,32) RAM: Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB 1600MHZ (EUR 65,70) SSD: OCZ Vertex4 128GB (EUR 119,95) Total price: EUR 556,44 I have two Samsung Spinpoint HDDs (1.5TB total) and a case that I will use from my old computer, and I'm planning on putting the parts together myself. I'm getting Win 8 64-bit ultimate for free from my university. Suffice to say, I'm not looking to overclock, unless I'm REALLY missing out (keeping in mind the cost of a dedicated CPU fan). I assume the above setup, without overclocking, is more than enough to stream SCII in 720p30fps? Any help/input by the amazing tech people here would be greatly appreciated! If there's some piece of information I forgot to put in, let me know and I'll edit it in. EDIT: I actually forgot the PSU, haha. Any suggestions for a good but cheap PSU that can handle my components? Don't need an expensive modular cable management solution or anything fancy like that. | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
I'm pretty sure people suggest to avoid the GTX 650 and go for AMD at that price. The GTX 650 Ti is different. You can get a Samsung 840 Pro for 115 EUR or something like that. The Samsung 840 (without "Pro") is 145 EUR for 250 GB. EDIT: When I was buying stuff a while ago, I was estimating overclocking to add at least 60 EUR to the price of a PC pretty similar to what you want to buy. | ||
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Craton
United States17288 Posts
On April 13 2013 13:46 Rollin wrote: If he ignored you the first time personally I wouldn't bother saying anything further. Also, it probably has no 6/8 pin connectors for a reason, what kind of gpu are we talking about, an integrated graphics replacement level one? It will work, I just need need to know which adapter to give him. | ||
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NihiLStarcraft
Denmark1413 Posts
On April 14 2013 02:38 Ropid wrote: You might want to look at the price of the other CPUs at the shop you will be buying, for example the i5-3470. I was comparing the various i3/i5/i7 CPUs and, to me, it looked like the i5-3570 for ~200 EUR was the best bang for the buck. The i5-3470, for example, is only ~15 bucks cheaper currently and it's a weaker processor. Please correct me if I'm wrong here! On April 14 2013 02:38 Ropid wrote: I'm pretty sure people suggest to avoid the GTX 650 and go for AMD at that price. The GTX 650 Ti is different. Ah, I see. I've had bad experiences with AMD so I'm entirely an Intel/NVidia kinda person. The 650 Ti is only 30 bucks more expensive and much better from the looks of it, so I'll go for the Ti! Good call, thanks! On April 14 2013 02:38 Ropid wrote: You can get a Samsung 840 Pro for 115 EUR or something like that. The Samsung 840 (without "Pro") is 145 EUR for 250 GB. Comparing the OCZ Vertex4 with the Samsung 840 Pro, it looks like the Vertex4 is a bit faster both when it comes to reading and writing. And the 840 Pro is only 5-10 bucks cheaper! Not sure if it's worth it? On April 14 2013 02:38 Ropid wrote: EDIT: When I was buying stuff a while ago, I was estimating overclocking to add at least 60 EUR to the price of a PC pretty similar to what you want to buy. Right! I'm not into overclocking and if I can stream 720p30fps on that setup, I won't pay the extra money for a K-model CPU and a dedicated CPU fan AND a air-flow optimzed case etc. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Where are you buying? mindfactory, hwvs, or? On April 14 2013 02:44 Craton wrote: It will work, I just need need to know which adapter to give him. Probably either. I was slightly confused by your earlier explanation and didn't read it twice because it doesn't matter. It's just connecting some copper between the power supply +12V rail and the graphics card, and copper between GND and the graphics card. Unless that's not what's happening, it should be good to go. At least, as far as trashy power supplies go. Somehow I doubt it's just a Seasonic SS300-ET or similar. Don't complain if the computer dies an untimely death. | ||
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NihiLStarcraft
Denmark1413 Posts
On April 14 2013 03:01 Myrmidon wrote: I'd probably get 840 instead of 840 Pro for more savings, unless you have some serious I/O needs beyond that of a normal (power) desktop user. Yup, I'm definitely not getting the more expensive 840 model! The question is: the cheap 840 or the Vertex4 - and from what I can tell, the Vertex4 is only a couple bucks more expensive and a good little bit faster! That's why I'm leaning towards the Vertex4 - but if anybody has any suggestions/experience, please let me know!! On April 14 2013 03:01 Myrmidon wrote: Where are you buying? mindfactory, hwvs, or? So far I was only looking at offers on Amazon (.DE) - but a quick check tells me that mindfactory for example has the i5-3570 for 10 bucks less, so I would definitely order it from there of course! | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On April 14 2013 02:57 NihiLStarcraft wrote: Comparing the OCZ Vertex4 with the Samsung 840 Pro, it looks like the Vertex4 is a bit faster both when it comes to reading and writing. And the 840 Pro is only 5-10 bucks cheaper! Not sure if it's worth it? That's not true. Anandtech does benchmarks where they try to simulate what happens in the real world, and the Samsung beats it handily there. I think the Samsung is actually the very best drive. I'm a bit suspicious of OCZ. They had a history of problems regarding reliability. They also have to buy the controller and memory they use, while Samsung can make everything themselves. That's where the better price can come from. It does not have to mean worse quality. | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On April 14 2013 03:24 NihiLStarcraft wrote: Yup, I'm definitely not getting the more expensive 840 model! The question is: the cheap 840 or the Vertex4 - and from what I can tell, the Vertex4 is only a couple bucks more expensive and a good little bit faster! That's why I'm leaning towards the Vertex4 - but if anybody has any suggestions/experience, please let me know!! The prices I see are: 85 EUR - 840 @ 120 GB 120 EUR - 840 Pro @ 128 GB 125 EUR - Vertex4 @ 128 GB 145 EUR - 840 @ 250 GB The small 840 looks a bit shitty in benchmarks, the 840 Pro is better than the Vertex4, the large 840 is large and better in benchmarks than the small 840. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
http://anandtech.com/bench/Product/742?vs=639 Again, I'd get normal 840, capacity depending on what you need. Difference in benchmarks is mostly just sequential writes. btw OCZ Vertex 4 is based on Indilinx Everest 2, so that's an in-house controller. | ||
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NihiLStarcraft
Denmark1413 Posts
Apart from the SSD, the up-to-date build, made to at the very least enable me to stream SCII @ 720p30fps fluently, is: Motherboard: ASRock H77M (EUR 71,92) CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz (EUR 198,55) GPU: Zotac NVIDIA GTX 650 TI 2GB DDR5 (EUR 137,10) RAM: Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB 1600MHZ (EUR 65,70) Is this build 'green-lit' by you experts? Thank you again for being so incredibly helpful, you people rock! | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Prices look slightly high. If RAM cheaper than Vengeance is available, you can get that instead. If you want to save, you can probably use B75 instead of H77, unless you'd really get a second SSD maybe. Did you decide on where you're ordering from and the power supply? | ||
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