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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
grockey
Profile Joined September 2012
United States51 Posts
March 01 2013 18:15 GMT
#27941
So guys... I recently have been having some issues with my new PC... I was using a USB dongle for my WiFi connection and out of the blue it went out yesterday, I restarted my computer and all was well... for about 1 hour. Now when I plug in the adapter in it lights up for a split second and now it wont work at all.
Forever Bronze
RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
March 01 2013 18:16 GMT
#27942
Hey, i've been plagued with this problem for over a year now and only just worked out the problem.

My IDE slave channel 0 socket is broken.

I've recently bought an SSD so i had to put the SSD into the IDE master channel 1, i have my other SSD in the IDE master channel 0.

My question is: Am i able to use both of these SSD's without buying a whole new motherboard?
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
March 01 2013 18:19 GMT
#27943
On March 02 2013 03:16 RiSkyToss wrote:
Hey, i've been plagued with this problem for over a year now and only just worked out the problem.

My IDE slave channel 0 socket is broken.

I've recently bought an SSD so i had to put the SSD into the IDE master channel 1, i have my other SSD in the IDE master channel 0.

My question is: Am i able to use both of these SSD's without buying a whole new motherboard?


*confused*

SSDs with IDE? You're sure you don't mean SATA? If so, there should be no problem if it's just the one port that is broken, since SATA doesn't have master/slave setups and each port operates on its own.
Such flammable little insects!
RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
March 01 2013 18:22 GMT
#27944
On March 02 2013 03:19 Rannasha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 03:16 RiSkyToss wrote:
Hey, i've been plagued with this problem for over a year now and only just worked out the problem.

My IDE slave channel 0 socket is broken.

I've recently bought an SSD so i had to put the SSD into the IDE master channel 1, i have my other SSD in the IDE master channel 0.

My question is: Am i able to use both of these SSD's without buying a whole new motherboard?


*confused*

SSDs with IDE? You're sure you don't mean SATA? If so, there should be no problem if it's just the one port that is broken, since SATA doesn't have master/slave setups and each port operates on its own.

It definitely says IDE, i used a SATA cable... i really dont know much about this at all so, yeah :/..
Eisregen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany967 Posts
March 01 2013 18:32 GMT
#27945
On March 02 2013 03:22 RiSkyToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 03:19 Rannasha wrote:
On March 02 2013 03:16 RiSkyToss wrote:
Hey, i've been plagued with this problem for over a year now and only just worked out the problem.

My IDE slave channel 0 socket is broken.

I've recently bought an SSD so i had to put the SSD into the IDE master channel 1, i have my other SSD in the IDE master channel 0.

My question is: Am i able to use both of these SSD's without buying a whole new motherboard?


*confused*

SSDs with IDE? You're sure you don't mean SATA? If so, there should be no problem if it's just the one port that is broken, since SATA doesn't have master/slave setups and each port operates on its own.

It definitely says IDE, i used a SATA cable... i really dont know much about this at all so, yeah :/..

Easy to figure out:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Photo-Noob@ http://www.flickr.com/photos/eisregen1983/
RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
March 01 2013 18:38 GMT
#27946
On March 02 2013 03:32 Eisregen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 03:22 RiSkyToss wrote:
On March 02 2013 03:19 Rannasha wrote:
On March 02 2013 03:16 RiSkyToss wrote:
Hey, i've been plagued with this problem for over a year now and only just worked out the problem.

My IDE slave channel 0 socket is broken.

I've recently bought an SSD so i had to put the SSD into the IDE master channel 1, i have my other SSD in the IDE master channel 0.

My question is: Am i able to use both of these SSD's without buying a whole new motherboard?


*confused*

SSDs with IDE? You're sure you don't mean SATA? If so, there should be no problem if it's just the one port that is broken, since SATA doesn't have master/slave setups and each port operates on its own.

It definitely says IDE, i used a SATA cable... i really dont know much about this at all so, yeah :/..

Easy to figure out:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Yeah... i'm using SATA, the other SSD isnt being recognised though...
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 19:03:52
March 01 2013 19:02 GMT
#27947
On March 02 2013 03:14 zoLo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 03:12 iTzSnypah wrote:
On March 02 2013 03:06 zoLo wrote:
On March 02 2013 03:00 iTzSnypah wrote:
Unless you have a 2560x1440/1600 or a 120hz monitor, It's a waste of money.


So if I'm planning to play at 1920 x 1080 on a 60 hz monitor it won't be worth the upgrade?

Well I don't know what you currently have so I can't really answer that.


I have an i5 2500K, GTX 550 right now


HD 7950 is about 2.6 times the performance of a 550ti (there's no such thing as a GTX 550 so I'm assuming you meant 550ti). Whether or not it's worth it is up to you. Do you want to max or be close to max every single game at 1920x1080 and rarely have the FPS drop under *some threshold* (let's say, 40 or 50)? Then it's not overkill.

If you're not that much of a performance enthusiast, you'll probably be happy with something like a HD 7850, which is roughly twice the performance of your 550ti. Objectively speaking, HD 7850 or 7870 are better performance per dollar but like I said, depends if the performance satisfies you or not.

Here's one benchmark to help you roughly gauge graphics card performance (see 1920x1200 summary). It's done using fairly recent drivers (12.11 for AMD) so make sure you look at those bars when looking at 7000 series cards: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performance/23.html

Of course, you also need to check individual games. If this "upgrade" is for SC2, there will be no performance gains as a 550ti can already max the game easily at 1920x1080
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
March 01 2013 19:04 GMT
#27948
It's a dumb question, but I made a bootable usb key with my win7, if I add more files on it, like create a "drivers" folder and put my drivers on it, will the key stay bootable ?
RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
March 01 2013 19:33 GMT
#27949
On March 02 2013 03:38 RiSkyToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 03:32 Eisregen wrote:
On March 02 2013 03:22 RiSkyToss wrote:
On March 02 2013 03:19 Rannasha wrote:
On March 02 2013 03:16 RiSkyToss wrote:
Hey, i've been plagued with this problem for over a year now and only just worked out the problem.

My IDE slave channel 0 socket is broken.

I've recently bought an SSD so i had to put the SSD into the IDE master channel 1, i have my other SSD in the IDE master channel 0.

My question is: Am i able to use both of these SSD's without buying a whole new motherboard?


*confused*

SSDs with IDE? You're sure you don't mean SATA? If so, there should be no problem if it's just the one port that is broken, since SATA doesn't have master/slave setups and each port operates on its own.

It definitely says IDE, i used a SATA cable... i really dont know much about this at all so, yeah :/..

Easy to figure out:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Yeah... i'm using SATA, the other SSD isnt being recognised though...


Anyone know how to use both master channel 0 and master channel 1?
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
March 01 2013 20:55 GMT
#27950
I think you don't have AHCI on in the BIOS. That's where IDE comes from, as it's the other, old mode. But this should be about the commands that are sent to the drives, not about master and slave stuff. You should check the BIOS settings, as Windows can't use TRIM (and perhaps something else) with SSDs in IDE mode. If AHCI is off, before you turn it on, you have to Google how to prepare your Windows installation for that, as it won't boot without preparation.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
March 01 2013 20:59 GMT
#27951
On March 02 2013 04:04 MrCon wrote:
It's a dumb question, but I made a bootable usb key with my win7, if I add more files on it, like create a "drivers" folder and put my drivers on it, will the key stay bootable ?

Yup, I'm using a 16 gb USB key for random stuff, and you can simply copy the contents of the Windows ISO on it. It'll boot into the Windows Setup and installing Windows works from that, ignoring other folders you have on your USB drive.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
`Mystery
Profile Joined February 2013
34 Posts
March 01 2013 21:34 GMT
#27952
Hey everyone, I'm just about ready to order this build for streaming, and I was wondering if the motherboard is good/compatable with the rest of the build.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.60 @ Compuvest)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $730.49
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-01 16:33 EST-0500)

Thanks a ton, and let me know if anything should be changed !
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 01 2013 21:44 GMT
#27953
If you're getting the CPU from Microcenter, try to get the motherboard from there as well. Usually they have some kind of combo promo or discount.

Memory is a bit expensive.

Some might say other cases around $50 are better, unless you like the blue LED fan and prefer to have better cooling performance at the price at the expense of having cheapo fans which may be relatively noisy and prone to failure.

Especially considering the power supply price is after rebate, you might as well get the cheaper and far superior Rosewill Capstone 450W:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066


Z77 is okay, but may be unnecessarily expensive. Well, actually if you can get one at a low price, it's not particularly a bad idea as you can enter the UEFI (BIOS), up clock speeds by 400 MHz, and be on your merry way.
`Mystery
Profile Joined February 2013
34 Posts
March 01 2013 21:51 GMT
#27954
Thanks Myrmidon, and I actually don't live near a Microcenter, that's just the auto markup because I was too lazy to change it. That case has a really good reputation for it's price, so that's why i'm going for it. I'll check out cheaper memory, but I don't want to skimp on the motherboard and regret it !
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 01 2013 22:04 GMT
#27955
You can kind of consolidate the order and get lower prices with a few substitutions:

Equivalent CPU, RAM, hard drive, optical drive (qualifies for free shipping)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=72279&promoid=1324
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57953&promoid=1324
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&promoid=1324
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=78975&promoid=1324

Actually, considering the price difference between this and B75 boards, you might as well just get this Z75 Pro3 for $77 and do that "free" 400MHz overclock with half a minute of effort (stock cooler should be okay for that, leave everything on default, should be stable though properly you should check):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157304

You can thank PCPartPicker for being largely useless as usual.
RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 22:35:31
March 01 2013 22:35 GMT
#27956
On March 02 2013 05:55 Ropid wrote:
I think you don't have AHCI on in the BIOS. That's where IDE comes from, as it's the other, old mode. But this should be about the commands that are sent to the drives, not about master and slave stuff. You should check the BIOS settings, as Windows can't use TRIM (and perhaps something else) with SSDs in IDE mode. If AHCI is off, before you turn it on, you have to Google how to prepare your Windows installation for that, as it won't boot without preparation.


Hey so i followed these steps and it didnt work....

http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=4170361&postcount=2
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 22:44:17
March 01 2013 22:41 GMT
#27957
Write some more details. What did not work? Do you not have AHCI in your BIOS? Then you simply don't have it as the mainboard is too old. Or did Windows not boot? Then it's perhaps different between Windows Vista, 7, 8, etc. (for example, it's "storahci" on my Windows, not "msahci").
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
March 01 2013 22:56 GMT
#27958
On March 02 2013 07:41 Ropid wrote:
Write some more details. What did not work? Do you not have AHCI in your BIOS? Then you simply don't have it as the mainboard is too old. Or did Windows not boot? Then it's perhaps different between Windows Vista, 7, 8, etc. (for example, it's "storahci" on my Windows, not "msahci").

AHCI was there, i changed it to AHCI, it said it was installing some stuff then it booted... but the drive is still not available. Downloaded performance drivers as well, didnt change anything.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 01 2013 23:01 GMT
#27959
Did you ever try a different SATA port? Which motherboard and which ports are we talking about?
RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 23:06:32
March 01 2013 23:03 GMT
#27960
Nevermind, i had to just format it, didnt realise i had to do that for it to work! Thanks for your help though! Sorry for wasting you awesome peoples time
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