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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-26 04:38:38
December 26 2012 04:34 GMT
#26421
On December 26 2012 13:13 skyR wrote:
First of all, no one was insisting on purchasing the 212 EVO. Second of all, shipping kills that deal.


Shipping doesn't kill the deal, at $55 it's still the best deal around. Even for $60 it can't be beat new price. $75 would just make it a good price but not worth getting unless you really needed cooling (which, frankly, I think you do on a 3570k, the difference between a high end cooler and a 212 is night and day, your talking a good 20*C+ just stock vs hyper 212 with push/pull at higher end heat ranges).

At around $55 it's just a way better deal than the hyper 212 around $25+. The hyper 212 is a terrible heatsink, it's just good for the price. The stock heatsink is also good for the price.

I know no one insisted on it, I was talking to the man saying he was planning on the hyper 212 evo. I was simply posting to dissuade him from it. Go for the hyper 212 if your strapped for cash, but really you are just better staying on stock until you can afford a better cooler than go for the hyper 212, given that the assassin can be had, new, for $49+shipping, or an nh-d14 for $40 used on ebay.
How to build a $500 i7-3770K Ultimate Computer:http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=392709 ******** 100% Safe Razorless Delid Method! http://www.overclock.net/t/1376206/how-to-delid-your-ivy-bridge-cpu-with-out-a-razor-blade/0_100
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 26 2012 04:40 GMT
#26422
Yes, shipping does kill the deal. It's $40 + $26 (to my address) + possible duties & brokerage fees. A Noctua NH-D14 for $50 destroys that deal.
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-26 04:43:30
December 26 2012 04:42 GMT
#26423
On December 26 2012 13:08 iTzSnypah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2012 12:24 Belial88 wrote:
I would strongly recommend against the hyper 212 evo. It's just a hyper 212+ with a bad lap job and a slightly better fan that is still loud as fuck and your just going to end up replacing anyways. My point is that the evo is not a better heatsink than the hyper 212+ - you can do a better lap job yourself (not that I'd even recommend that), and most critically, it's not worth the $9 price premium.


I would strongly recommend you read up on the differences between the Evo and Plus. Evo has higher FPI than the Plus. Also the Evo and Plus are normally around the same price.


I am well aware of the differences between the evo and plus, but fins per inch does not always translate into more performance. Higher fins per inch is also going to be louder, although at that price range I don't think sound is the biggest concern, but more fpi can reduce cooling on a lower static pressure fan. As complicated as all of this can be, real world testing has simply shown the evo to be only 1-2*C better at most, apples to apples, and only 1-3*C stock vs stock.

Basically, the lapjob is the reason it cools better than the 212+, and it's simply not worth the price premium, If the hyper 212 evo was maybe around $1-4 more expensive, it'd be worth it. At $5+, it's simply not worth it when you can get better cooling performance and cheaper, with a hyper 212+ with 1.5g of PK-3. or you can get even cheaper, high grade paste for less than that, that will have a bigger impact on cooling (the stock CM paste is rather terrible).

With the ~$9 price premium, you are much better off buying a hyper 212+, a better fan, and high grade thermal paste, for your money.
How to build a $500 i7-3770K Ultimate Computer:http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=392709 ******** 100% Safe Razorless Delid Method! http://www.overclock.net/t/1376206/how-to-delid-your-ivy-bridge-cpu-with-out-a-razor-blade/0_100
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-26 04:45:16
December 26 2012 04:44 GMT
#26424
On December 26 2012 13:40 skyR wrote:
Yes, shipping does kill the deal. It's $40 + $26 (to my address) + possible duties & brokerage fees. A Noctua NH-D14 for $50 destroys that deal.


Where can you find a NH-D14 for $50 new?

I'd recommend buying an NH-d14 or similar dual tower used over a new assassin at $39+ shipping but as far as new heatsinks go, it's the best deal.
How to build a $500 i7-3770K Ultimate Computer:http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=392709 ******** 100% Safe Razorless Delid Method! http://www.overclock.net/t/1376206/how-to-delid-your-ivy-bridge-cpu-with-out-a-razor-blade/0_100
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
December 26 2012 04:51 GMT
#26425
On December 26 2012 12:18 Myrmidon wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On December 26 2012 11:57 iTzSnypah wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Useful System Info:
Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 @3.2Ghz
MSI P35 Diamond ATX
Evga 9800 GTX @770/1910
Seagate 750GB SATA II 7200rpm HDD
Beige Beast Case

HP vs17 17" 1280 x 1024 60Hz Monitor

I want to upgrade something as I got a good amount of loot from Christmas.

Max Budget: ~$200

I'm debating between:
1080p Monitor
New Case+Fan controller+Fans


My current case is terrible, the only thing that works is the power button as all the other cords are missing. So I'm thinking a new case would be useful now and later when I upgrade my system. Although when I upgrade my system I kind of want to go mATX or smaller, however I would need an ATX case to fit my current components.

I don't think my GPU is powerful enough to play games at 1080p. Currently I barely average 60FPS in the Farcry 2 built-in benchmark (ranch short) on DX9 Medium.

So what do you guys think? Monitor or Case? Or something completely different?

Maybe both? Definitely not $200 for a case and cooling alone, especially if you'd rather have mATX later on.

Like Asus VS229H-P (can use as secondary down the road I guess) and NZXT Source 220 or whatever.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236205
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146083

Ooh I can get the Monitor from Walmart for $144 and since I'll have it shipped to store, free shipping.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 26 2012 04:51 GMT
#26426
NCIX sold out of it at $49, ME has the 2011 variant for $50 (just message Noctua for free mounting bracket).
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
December 26 2012 04:58 GMT
#26427
wow that's pretty cool. yea i got a 2011 myself, noctua sent me a free mounting bracket (since no mount got it for only $30). the pwm fans are better than the standard nh-d14, your actually better off buying a 2011 and just getting noctua to send you the y splitter, standard mount, and sticker free.
How to build a $500 i7-3770K Ultimate Computer:http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=392709 ******** 100% Safe Razorless Delid Method! http://www.overclock.net/t/1376206/how-to-delid-your-ivy-bridge-cpu-with-out-a-razor-blade/0_100
RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
December 26 2012 05:19 GMT
#26428
Okay, so after looking around a little, I think I may have finalized* my build.
*Knowing myself, I probably won't be truly finalized until it's too late.

CPU: i5 2500k $140 Micro Center

GPU: MSI GTX 650 Ti $130 w/ Rebate Newegg

MOBO: MSI Z68A-G43 $70**
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130621&Tpk=z68

HDD: Already have one (Seagate 2TB 5900RPM)

RAM: Already have (Patriot Mem. 2x 2GB 1333)

PSU: Corsair CX430 $40 ($20 w/ Rebate) Newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

HSF: $20 Xixgmatek
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082

That brings me to $400 and w/ shipping & tax (URGH, I didn't realize that Newegg has tax for CA), at $425-ish, my almost absolute budget.


*oes this MOBO allow for easy OCing of the i5 2500K? I read that it should, but I'm not sure. Also, if I decide to get an HD7770 instead, would it be compatible? What about a GTX 660***?

***Say someone gives me a GTX 660 for free and thus I have an extra $100-$125, should I spend it on a better MOBO? CPU? Peripherals? Games? Bank?


I'm sorry if it feels like I'm very indecisive about my build, as it's my first true build and I don't want to be disappointed. I just want to say thank you to those who have been helping me, directly, and indirectly, including those who will help me in the future. I mean it, thank you.
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-26 05:25:00
December 26 2012 05:21 GMT
#26429
I'm thinking about getting some Noctua fans (NF-F12 PWM) for my case and heatsink myself, but boy why do they keep insisting on using those colors :r
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
December 26 2012 05:25 GMT
#26430
On December 26 2012 09:51 evantrees wrote:
Let's give this a try about time to buy a new computer. Though debating saying screw it and just waiting a while longer...

What is your budget?

600~

What is your resolution?
1920x1200 with a 1650 x 1050 monitor also hooked up.

What are you using it for?

Gaming(would like to be able to run dark souls, dota 2 and diablo 3 well and the witcher 2 reasonably, at least ),web browsing and maybe a little encoding.

What is your upgrade cycle?

~4years

When do you plan on building it?

soon

Do you plan on overclocking?

Willing to try it, though airflow in my room isn't the best.

Do you need an Operating System?

yes still running xp, how bad is windows 8?

edit: Can't get windows from university/work for free.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Online (canadian?) retailers, live in toronto could consider going for a trip somewhere.

other nonsense
8gb of ram given current usage.

an ssd would be nice.

have a 1.5 tb hard drive could reuse though it is getting full.

Idling quitely and a limited number of leds on the case would be nice.


$29 Kingston HyperX Blu Black Series 8GB http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=78421&promoid=1033

$25 Bitfenix Merc Alpha Steel Black http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=63256&promoid=1033

$40 - 15MIR Corsair CX Series CX430 http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=76034&promoid=1033

$85 Windows 7 or 8

$13 LG GH24NS95 24X http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=78975&promoid=1033

$160 - 30 MIR XFX Radeon HD 7850 http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=77797&promoid=1033

$150 Intel Core i3 2120 Dual Core CPU & ASUS P8B75-M LE http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=78393&promoid=1033

$95 Samsung 840 Series 120GB http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=77210&vpn=MZ-7TD120BW&manufacture=Samsung Memory & Storage&promoid=1033
(Intel one at 100 was better but sold out)


$596.92 +shipping+taxes-MIR

If you plan on putting more money in this computer, I recommend not getting the SSD and investing that money in a better CPU or GPU and buying a SSD later.
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-26 05:47:49
December 26 2012 05:39 GMT
#26431
On December 26 2012 13:14 shtdisturbance wrote:
This is a computer i am building for my girlfriends little brother.
What is your budget?
500$ tax in

What is your resolution?
Unknown, I need a new monitor but it is not included in price.
The dad was hoping for a 25-27" monitor if you have any suggestions or boxing day prices.


What are you using it for?

He plays minecraft, I was hoping maybe be able to play recent games on low to medium graphics such as sc2, dota 2 etc.
Other than that youtube and general browsing.

What is your upgrade cycle?
Unkown? When required.

When do you plan on building it?
Hopefully buy all the parts tomorrow or within the next week. (Before jan 7)

Do you plan on overclocking?
No.

Do you need an Operating System?
No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No.

Where are you buying your parts from?
I live in Canada and have 2 Canada Computers near my house so i was hoping for some sales there for tomorrow, but I am perfectly fine purchasing them online.

Thank you very much,
Merry Christmas.



$29 Kingston HyperX Blu Black Series 8GB http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=78421&promoid=1033

$25 Bitfenix Merc Alpha Steel Black http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=63256&promoid=1033

$40 - 15MIR Corsair CX Series CX430 http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=76034&promoid=1033

$13 LG GH24NS95 24X http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=78975&promoid=1033

$160 - 30 MIR XFX Radeon HD 7850 http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=77797&promoid=1033

$150 Intel Core i3 2120 Dual Core CPU & ASUS P8B75-M LE http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=78393&promoid=1033

$60 Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=58746&promoid=1033

$476.93+shipping+taxes-MIR


Monitor would depend on budget:
UltraSharp U2312HM 23-inch $180
or go to monitor tread

1TB WD Black for 10$ might be worth it if you can get it at canadacomputers and you should look at their monitors if you go to the store.
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=212&item_id=029337
Wes2000
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States45 Posts
December 26 2012 05:48 GMT
#26432
Budget: $850
Resolution: 1920x1080
Uses: Gaming
Upgrade Cycle: 5 years
Overclocking: No
SLI or Crossfire: No

Operating System: $99.99
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

MOBO: $99.99
MSI P67A-GD80 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130581

GPU: $189.99
HIS IceQ X H785QN2G2M Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161405

CPU: $219.99
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

RAM: $44.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314

HDD: $64.99
Western Digital WD Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

PSU: $44.99
Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D Green 380W Continuous power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033

CASE: $69.99
COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

CD/DVD: $14.99
SAMSUNG Black Single: 18X Dual: 8X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model SH-118AB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151258

Total: $850



Any noticeable flaws or suggestions? I am about right on budget wise, although shipping is going to add a bit. Any ways to cut a few more dollars and not lose too much performance would be great!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-26 06:05:08
December 26 2012 06:00 GMT
#26433
On December 26 2012 14:48 Wes2000 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Budget: $850
Resolution: 1920x1080
Uses: Gaming
Upgrade Cycle: 5 years
Overclocking: No
SLI or Crossfire: No

Operating System: $99.99
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

MOBO: $99.99
MSI P67A-GD80 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130581

GPU: $189.99
HIS IceQ X H785QN2G2M Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161405

CPU: $219.99
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

RAM: $44.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314

HDD: $64.99
Western Digital WD Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

PSU: $44.99
Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D Green 380W Continuous power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033

CASE: $69.99
COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

CD/DVD: $14.99
SAMSUNG Black Single: 18X Dual: 8X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model SH-118AB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151258

Total: $850



Any noticeable flaws or suggestions? I am about right on budget wise, although shipping is going to add a bit. Any ways to cut a few more dollars and not lose too much performance would be great!


P67 does not natively support Ivybridge. If you are not overclocking than you want a B75 or H77 board.

K suffix processors are for overclocking. If not overclocking, get the regular 3570.

Memory is too expensive, 2x4gb 1600MHz cas9 should only be about $30-$40.

HAF 912 is overpriced at $70. A Fractal Design Define R4 which is significantly better is like $10 more. A Corsair 200R which is similar to the HAF 912 is like $50 or $60.

Earthwatts is OOS right now, get the Antec Neo Eco for $30 (promo ends today): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371029 or a CX430 for $40 ($20 after mail in rebate).

And why get a drive and not a burner?
Wes2000
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States45 Posts
December 26 2012 06:17 GMT
#26434
On December 26 2012 15:00 skyR wrote:

P67 does not natively support Ivybridge. If you are not overclocking than you want a B75 or H77 board.

K suffix processors are for overclocking. If not overclocking, get the regular 3570.

Memory is too expensive, 2x4gb 1600MHz cas9 should only be about $30-$40.

HAF 912 is overpriced at $70. A Fractal Design Define R4 which is significantly better is like $10 more. A Corsair 200R which is similar to the HAF 912 is like $50 or $60.

Earthwatts is OOS right now, get the Antec Neo Eco for $30 (promo ends today): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371029 or a CX430 for $40 ($20 after mail in rebate).

And why get a drive and not a burner?


Thank you for the great advise and so fast!

I have updated the build with your suggestions and the price range is looking about perfect. I still need to find a little better Ram price, but overall its right in the range now. Thank you

Budget: $850
Resolution: 1920x1080
Uses: Gaming
Upgrade Cycle: 5 years
Overclocking: No
SLI or Crossfire: No

Operating System: $99.99
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

MOBO: $89.99
MSI B75A-G43 LGA 1155 Intel B75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130651

GPU: $189.99
HIS IceQ X H785QN2G2M Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161405

CPU: $214.99
Intel Core i5-3570 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX80637i53570
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115233

RAM: $44.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314

HDD: $64.99
Western Digital WD Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

PSU: $39.99
CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026&Tpk=CX430

CASE: $59.99
Corsair Carbide Series 200R Black Steel structure with molded ABS plastic accent pieces ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139018&Tpk=Corsair 200R

CD/DVD: $18.99
Sony Optiarc 24X DVD Burner, Bulk Package 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model AD-7280S-0B - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118067

Total: $824
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-26 06:49:59
December 26 2012 06:25 GMT
#26435
On December 26 2012 15:17 Wes2000 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On December 26 2012 15:00 skyR wrote:

P67 does not natively support Ivybridge. If you are not overclocking than you want a B75 or H77 board.

K suffix processors are for overclocking. If not overclocking, get the regular 3570.

Memory is too expensive, 2x4gb 1600MHz cas9 should only be about $30-$40.

HAF 912 is overpriced at $70. A Fractal Design Define R4 which is significantly better is like $10 more. A Corsair 200R which is similar to the HAF 912 is like $50 or $60.

Earthwatts is OOS right now, get the Antec Neo Eco for $30 (promo ends today): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371029 or a CX430 for $40 ($20 after mail in rebate).

And why get a drive and not a burner?


Thank you for the great advise and so fast!

I have updated the build with your suggestions and the price range is looking about perfect. I still need to find a little better Ram price, but overall its right in the range now. Thank you

Budget: $850
Resolution: 1920x1080
Uses: Gaming
Upgrade Cycle: 5 years
Overclocking: No
SLI or Crossfire: No

Operating System: $99.99
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

MOBO: $89.99
MSI B75A-G43 LGA 1155 Intel B75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130651

GPU: $189.99
HIS IceQ X H785QN2G2M Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161405

CPU: $214.99
Intel Core i5-3570 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX80637i53570
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115233

RAM: $44.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314

HDD: $64.99
Western Digital WD Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

PSU: $39.99
CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026&Tpk=CX430

CASE: $59.99
Corsair Carbide Series 200R Black Steel structure with molded ABS plastic accent pieces ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139018&Tpk=Corsair 200R

CD/DVD: $18.99
Sony Optiarc 24X DVD Burner, Bulk Package 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model AD-7280S-0B - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118067

Total: $824

Any reason for ATX size? 1GB HD7870s are around $20 cheaper. CX430 will most likely have coil whine. $45 for 8GB of DDR3-1600 is crazy overpriced. The 3450/3470 are 100/200mhz lower clock however they are also $10/15 cheaper.

Oh and combo deals. Combo deals or death! I'll edit my findings in.

EDIT1: Here is what I got so far.

Considering your upgrade cycle I think a HD7870 would be a better choice.

i5-3470 & DVD Burner $209.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1163293

Gigabyte HD7870 & Crucial 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 $273.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1155880

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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 26 2012 06:26 GMT
#26436
I'd get this H77 board for $70 instead of the B75 you have selected at $90: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157303 If you want / need a full ATX board than there's this for a little under $70: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157314

If you're open to purchasing from another retailer as well, you can save some money. Free shipping btw (unless you live in Alaska, Hawaii, or Puerto Rico).

Windows 7 for $90: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1033

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB for $60: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=58402&promoid=1033

DVD Burner for $16: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45244&promoid=1033

Coolermaster HAF 912 for $50: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1033

Kingston HyperX Blu Black 2x4GB 1600MHz for $29: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=78421&promoid=1033
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
December 26 2012 06:32 GMT
#26437
Wes2000, you don't live near a microcenter by chance, do you?
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-26 09:08:56
December 26 2012 09:03 GMT
#26438
You know you could get a way better quality z68 motherboard and just replace the bios chip. You basically get higher quality at half the price of a z77. I'm planning on buying a 3570k, but I dont want to pay $120 for a shitty z77 motherboard with bad VRM and lack of features, I'd rather pay $60 for a high quality z68, with lots of features and SLI and crossfire, and then $10 for a bios chip to install or maybe it already has IB supported bios because it was used.

Which brings me to what I'm doing:

I plan on buying a used ASUS Maximus IV GENE-Z/GEN3 for $60.

I literally checked out every used lower end Z68 chipset motherboard on ebay and searched on their features and how they overclock. Spoilered because it's fucking huge:

+ Show Spoiler +

ASUS P8Z68-V LX
No SLI
4+2 No Heatsink VRM
Offset voltage only

asus "L" is budget weak version

Gigabyte GA-Z68MX-UD2H-B3
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2218705
Micro ATX
heatsinked VRM,
SLI support but need to put on bottom slot (which is fine on mid tower case, only issue on micro atx case)
Requires bios F13
cant overclock well ib on gigabyte older chipset?
not a great board?

MSI Z68A-G43
4+1 heatsinked phase, wow, avoid unless super cheap
no core voltage adjustment
no sli, no crossfire (second gpu slot is only x4)
Whereas for G45/G43, there are no voltage adjustments for the vcore.
avoid this pos

MSI Z68MA-G45
4+1 nonheatsinked phase
no vcore adjustment?
$48

ASUS Maximus IV GENE-Z/GEN3
bios is 0302, it will work out of box?
12 phase VRM heatsinked
single at x16, dual at x8/x8
SLI/crossfire
$55

ASRock Z68 Pro3-M
micro atx
Single GPu
6 heatsinked vrm
compatability issue with corsair cs430?

ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3
huge heatsinked phase
2 x PCIe 3.0 x16 slots, Supports AMD Quad CrossFireX™ and NVIDIA® Quad SLI™
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/11/09/asrock_z68_extreme4_gen3_motherboard_review/6
hardocp says it sucks. i'll avoid it.


BIOSTAR TZ68A+
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1883335
5.8ghz@1.596vcore so obviously can allow oc/volt.
crossfire, no SLI, crossfire is x16/x4
2x pci 2.0 x16
$64

MSI Z68MA-ED55
10 phases (2x4+1, 8+2?)heatsinked.
Micro ATX
No SLI
16/x4 in crossfire
$65

Evga z68 SLI
8 heatsinked phase
SLI + crossfire
bios r16 for ib? cannot overclock on r16 bios for ivy bridge? Unstable bios? this is going on right now...
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1820030&mpage=1
$68

ASUS P8Z68-V Pro
high count heatsinked vrm
2 x pci e 3.0 slots (dual at x8/x8)
SLI and Crossfire support
5ghz, 1.4v, overclock well apparently
Hardocp recommends!
$70


GA-Z68A-D3-B3
4+1 partially heatsinked
no sli, only crossfire
$78

Msi g43no voltage control, bad vrm
G45 can adjust up to 1.5v with new bios!
MSi GD55/65/80, these boards have a bigger range of voltages and bios OC adjustments

gigabyte MA will not go above 1.5v?


My question to you guys, was basically sort of confirming my findings here, and that the Asus Maximus iv gene 3 is a good overclocking board. I'm just looking for a motherboard that overclocks well, plays well with IB as long as it has the right bios, and doesnt have any limits on the voltages or frequencies.

I'm also interested in SLI support and both CPU VID and Offset voltage options but it isn't necessary. A higher quality VRM is more important, but most of these boards have larger phases.

I know the asus maximums iv gene 3 has a removable bios chip.
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NoBanMeAgain
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States194 Posts
December 26 2012 16:52 GMT
#26439
This is a really n00b question (first pc build ever) does the PSU contain all the connectors needed to hook up to the motherboard and a HDD and SSD if need be?

PSU http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59615&vpn=P1550SXXB9&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1285

Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157314

HDD http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&vpn=ST1000DM003&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1285

im just concerned that i will need to buy extra connectors or something. Also how many extra SSD would i be able to hook up with this particular set up?
'Widow mines will split open the earth, releasing the fiery bats of hell. The skies will grow black with the shadows of the medivacs, and they shall see no light but the harsh exhaust of afterburners. MajOr-16:1
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
December 26 2012 16:59 GMT
#26440
On December 27 2012 01:52 ImANinjaBich wrote:
This is a really n00b question (first pc build ever) does the PSU contain all the connectors needed to hook up to the motherboard and a HDD and SSD if need be?

PSU http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59615&vpn=P1550SXXB9&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1285

Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157314

HDD http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&vpn=ST1000DM003&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1285

im just concerned that i will need to buy extra connectors or something. Also how many extra SSD would i be able to hook up with this particular set up?


It says 3 SATA stock, so 3 total drives without adapters or splitters.
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