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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6228 Posts
October 20 2012 06:37 GMT
#25121
I need a GPU suggestion with a few unique requirements. I can't buy from newegg because they don't ship to Korea, so I need an international online store. It also has to be less than $200 and I'd prefer good heat management with 1 GB memory. Is there any option for me?
good vibes only
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
October 20 2012 06:47 GMT
#25122
hd7850
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
CouchWarrior
Profile Joined August 2012
15 Posts
October 20 2012 13:36 GMT
#25123
On October 20 2012 14:07 CouchWarrior wrote:
I have a maxtor 250gb external hard drive and I lost some files on it due to dumbassery. Is there a way to restore my hard drive to an early date say two weeks ago?

Got buried :/
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 20 2012 16:13 GMT
#25124
On October 20 2012 14:07 CouchWarrior wrote:
I have a maxtor 250gb external hard drive and I lost some files on it due to dumbassery. Is there a way to restore my hard drive to an early date say two weeks ago?

How would you return all data to a previous state without some kind of data backup?

Anyway, it depends on how the files were lost. When a file is deleted, the data blocks are just tagged as not containing data any more (but the bits can still be read). It's not like the system bothers overwriting the data unless it's actually writing new data.

Some data recovery utilities can look through all the blocks on the hard drive and look for unmarked data grouped together that seems to correspond to what was once a file. As long as they have not been actually overwritten since then (and not fragmented, though maybe some are smart about that), you may be able to recover them.
CouchWarrior
Profile Joined August 2012
15 Posts
October 20 2012 16:37 GMT
#25125
On October 21 2012 01:13 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 14:07 CouchWarrior wrote:
I have a maxtor 250gb external hard drive and I lost some files on it due to dumbassery. Is there a way to restore my hard drive to an early date say two weeks ago?

How would you return all data to a previous state without some kind of data backup?

Anyway, it depends on how the files were lost. When a file is deleted, the data blocks are just tagged as not containing data any more (but the bits can still be read). It's not like the system bothers overwriting the data unless it's actually writing new data.

Some data recovery utilities can look through all the blocks on the hard drive and look for unmarked data grouped together that seems to correspond to what was once a file. As long as they have not been actually overwritten since then (and not fragmented, though maybe some are smart about that), you may be able to recover them.

I deleted the folder and emptied it from the recycle bin on my desktop, most likely not overwritten unless im missing something. What utility do you suggest I use?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 21 2012 00:32 GMT
#25126
On October 21 2012 01:37 CouchWarrior wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 01:13 Myrmidon wrote:
On October 20 2012 14:07 CouchWarrior wrote:
I have a maxtor 250gb external hard drive and I lost some files on it due to dumbassery. Is there a way to restore my hard drive to an early date say two weeks ago?

How would you return all data to a previous state without some kind of data backup?

Anyway, it depends on how the files were lost. When a file is deleted, the data blocks are just tagged as not containing data any more (but the bits can still be read). It's not like the system bothers overwriting the data unless it's actually writing new data.

Some data recovery utilities can look through all the blocks on the hard drive and look for unmarked data grouped together that seems to correspond to what was once a file. As long as they have not been actually overwritten since then (and not fragmented, though maybe some are smart about that), you may be able to recover them.

I deleted the folder and emptied it from the recycle bin on my desktop, most likely not overwritten unless im missing something. What utility do you suggest I use?

Just in case it wasn't really obvious, don't be writing anything new to that drive in the meantime.

There's a lot of software for that purpose, and I have no idea which is best. I'm sure there's more than is listed here under file recovery:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_data_recovery_software
formless
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada3 Posts
October 21 2012 01:37 GMT
#25127
hey all i am building a computer for my brother
i posted here a month ago but i did not expect it to take so long to get a credit card it just came in the mail

What is your budget?

1000$ flexible

What is your resolution?

1920x1080

What are you using it for?

browsing internet and gaming.


What is your upgrade cycle?

he may upgrade next year for rome total war 2

When do you plan on building it?

ready to start buying whenever

Do you plan on overclocking?

no

Do you need an Operating System?

yes

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

no

Where are you buying your parts from?

ncix.ca or other canadian stores
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 21 2012 06:02 GMT
#25128
This may be pretty overkill. I don't think an upgrade would be necessary next year for anything.

Core i5-3550 - $210
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70542

Gigabyte B75M-D3H - $65
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70273&promoid=1295

G.Skill 2 x 4GB DDR3 1600MHz - $35
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=57953&promoid=1295

MSI GTX 660 Ti Power Edition - $265 (price ends today?)
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=75201&promoid=1382

Crucial M4 128GB - $105
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=60445&promoid=1295

Toshiba 1TB 7200rpm - $60
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=75817&promoid=1295

Samsung CD / DVD burner - $15
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=76258&promoid=1382

XFX Pro 550W - $60 (no good PSU deals... or just get the 450W version and use the molex adapter that comes with the graphics card)
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=59615&promoid=1295

BitFenix Shinobi - $60
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=60584&promoid=1295

Microsoft Windows 7 64-bit OEM - $98
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1295
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-21 23:25:21
October 21 2012 20:40 GMT
#25129
I'm looking to get a pretty budget gaming build that I can expand on later if need be. I want it as close to 400$ as possible, and the ability to play SC2 and Guild Wars 2 on the side at medium-high on 1080P. I think that is possible within my budget (I know it is for SC2, but not sure about GW2). If anybody could help with this build, or suggest a better one, I would greatly appreciate it.

I have a monitor/keyboard/mouse, and a lot of my shopping is from Amazon for Amazon prime. I don't need much storage - a 320GB hard drive would probably be enough but I think I have a good deal on the 60$ one. But every dollar pretty much counts - if I can save 10+$ on a part, please let me know.

Build currently:
GTX 650 @ 110$ on Amazon
DVD Drive 20$
Fractal Design Core 1000 40$
Antec earthwatts 380D @ 45$
G2120 @ 80$
G.Skill 8GB Ram @ 33$
Asrock B75 Motherboard 55$
Western Digital 500GB Hard Drive @60$

I picked a GTX 650 because of its great SC2 performance relative to other stuff. G2120 is just because I wasn't sure if it beats a ~50-60$ Pentium G645 (2.9ghz SB iirc) for cost/performance. I figured 25% increase in price, 10% clock increase and slight IPC increase + lower power consumption makes it worth it?

I think I can get a smaller PSU, but I'm not sure and this would allow me to bump up the parts a little bit without having to get a new PSU. I'd love to save money on the Case or anywhere else - so please let me know!

Total atm: 443$ - I have an OS.

I don't necessarily need to buy now, but I'd like to before christmas. Would black friday be a good time to shave 50-100$ off if I'm lucky?
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10067 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-21 22:23:45
October 21 2012 22:02 GMT
#25130
On April 16 2012 11:34 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 07:43 mTwTT1 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
ok im ready to build my computer!

budget: 1k-1.5k, should be enought for wat im looking for but im willing to go higher if theres a huge difference in performance

requirements: - i want a lagless gaming experience while streaming SC2 at 1080p(basically high fps while streaming) and i want my computer to be extremely quiet
- i will OC my cpu
- i dont need an OS
- gonna buy the parts from ncix.ca


$1251 before mail in rebates, applicable taxes, and other fees.

Corsair 550D @ $122 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11180AC8844 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=66726

ASUS DirectCu II Radeon HD7850 @ $250 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530BD5564 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=69864

Intel Core i7 2600k @ $295
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57960&promoid=1259

MSI Z77A-G43 @ $120 ($100 after mail in rebate)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=69230&promoid=1201

Crucial M4 128gb @ $143 (pricematch with http://www.hookbag.ca/product/H3C06ML4Y/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60445

Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $40
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&promoid=1259

Noctua NH-D14 @ $72 (pricematch with http://www.computervalley.ca/nh-d14/noctua-nh-d14-cpu-cooler-1-x-120-mm-1-x-140-mm-1200-rpm-1300-rpm-2-x-sso-bearing )
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=47090

Seasonic X560 @ $113 (pricematch with http://www.agileelectronics.ca/prod_details/tab/details.asp?prod_id=R-X-560-A )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55672

DVD Burner @ $17 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/239388/LG_Electronics/GH24NS90/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=66853&promoid=1259

Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $79
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&promoid=1259


ok so around 5-6 months ago i bought this computer. a couple of days in i started having issues with the video card(it kept crashing whenever i would run xsplit or watch a stream) so i exchanged it for gtx 570. at first everything was fine but ive recently started to experience massive lag, i used to be able to run my stream on 720p w/ 2500 bitrate but these days i cant even play without having any lag on the na server(no stream). my gpu's standard temp is between 75c-80c on sc2

i dunno what the issue is tt. is this something cpu, gpu or internet related? i also used to have this issue where my computer would automatically reboot on its own whenenever i booted it. however i recently set my cpu back to factory settings it stopped occuring, my cpu used to be oc'ed @ 4 ghz and now its back to 3.4 ghz

edit: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=58573&vpn=012-P3-1571-KR&manufacture=eVGA&promoid=1295 < vid card i exchanged for
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 21 2012 22:47 GMT
#25131
80C is really high for SC2 especially considering that in SC2 its pretty idle most of the time, then again this is Fermi we are talking about.

Either way. GPU is pretty irrelevant here. What temps does your CPU get to?
twitch.tv/medrea
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10067 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-21 23:17:15
October 21 2012 23:13 GMT
#25132
[image loading]

thats when its idoled tho, gonna test it ingame
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-21 23:16:40
October 21 2012 23:15 GMT
#25133
You have to actually play the game to get a reading on temperature.

Sitting there idling at your desktop doesnt do anything lol.

Come back with numbers after you actually experience the drop framerate. Also if you want, post a replay, and a timestamp. And tell us what framerate you get at said timestamp.

Because this way we can provide the best assistance since a lot of us have the same or similar CPU.
twitch.tv/medrea
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10067 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 01:06:43
October 22 2012 00:44 GMT
#25134
On October 22 2012 08:15 Medrea wrote:
You have to actually play the game to get a reading on temperature.

Sitting there idling at your desktop doesnt do anything lol.

Come back with numbers after you actually experience the drop framerate. Also if you want, post a replay, and a timestamp. And tell us what framerate you get at said timestamp.

Because this way we can provide the best assistance since a lot of us have the same or similar CPU.



i have 160 fps when the game starts and it drops down to ~60ish lategame(dropped to 40 when i tabbed to coretemp)
[image loading]

edit: and its weird because my games laggy even in the early game
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 22 2012 01:07 GMT
#25135
That seems a bit low for 90v90 but I wonder does it just slow down when it loses focus? Or did it slow down and THEN you tabbed over?

Someone else will have to chime in though. Ive been up for nearly 24 hours (Im too old for this), and im afraid it might hurt my deductive reasoning ability without me realizing it. Im sure someone else will come by in just a moment.
twitch.tv/medrea
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10067 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 01:14:17
October 22 2012 01:09 GMT
#25136
On October 22 2012 10:07 Medrea wrote:
That seems a bit low for 90v90 but I wonder does it just slow down when it loses focus? Or did it slow down and THEN you tabbed over?

Someone else will have to chime in though. Ive been up for nearly 24 hours (Im too old for this), and im afraid it might hurt my deductive reasoning ability without me realizing it. Im sure someone else will come by in just a moment.


it slowed down after i tabbed over, its odd because up until 1 month ago everything was fine =/. minigun told me that he used to have the same issue aswell, up until someone changed a few settings in his bios and that solved the problem
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
aBstractx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States287 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 04:25:19
October 22 2012 04:17 GMT
#25137
can someone rate this cpu build ive put together?

https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetailPrint.aspx?ID=15661189

going for sort of a high end sc2 streaming pc, will be playing other games. mostly gaming. i feel 128 gb is enough storage for me. i dont store movies/pictures or any other media.

anyone recommend any good ram? just 8 gigs, preferably red in color so match the case & leds. i dont want to be a cheap ass. i really hate my current pc bcuz i went with a low budget build for around $700.


total for the pc is roughly $1000. the monitor on there is $400.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 04:30:20
October 22 2012 04:30 GMT
#25138
What's a CPU build? A computer build, methinks.

The list is quite unviewable to the masses. You need to make it a publish wishlist. In the meantime, my rating is ??/10.

You want DDR3 RAM, preferably rated at 1.5V operation. Nothing much else matters unless you're overclocking RAM for e-peen warz. Well, it might be nice to get it from a larger brand, because they tend to have more buying power in sourcing the actual ICs from the actual chip makers, so maybe greater consistency in product lines.
aBstractx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States287 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 04:40:21
October 22 2012 04:39 GMT
#25139


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uses are gaming, sc2 mostly, streaming said games, perhaps overclocking if i need to.
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sorry... thought every1 could see that. i made it public but couldnt find it? idk wtf :/ just copied it.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
October 22 2012 04:44 GMT
#25140
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 22 2012 13:39 aBstractx wrote:


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uses are gaming, sc2 mostly, streaming said games, perhaps overclocking if i need to.
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sorry... thought every1 could see that. i made it public but couldnt find it? idk wtf :/ just copied it.



Spoiled cause so much text.

From glancing... I think you can get a HAF912 instead of a HAF922; it's smaller (I think?), but has all the functionality that you need, and you'll save 60$. Then, get a 450W Rosewill capstone, you'll save 10-15$ I think. Nothing else freaks out to my eyes, although you can probably make do with a less expensive motherboard.

Would anybody mind reviewing my build a few posts up? I edited it a bunch but now I think I'm done (minus reviews from y'all)
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