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kaifragrance
Canada50 Posts
On May 30 2012 07:35 MisterJulianMan wrote: i can email you a template cart i made on newegg, it has a 2500k and a 6850 in it and its 680$ just let me know your email He said he's not planning on overclocking. | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On May 30 2012 04:34 SilentVico wrote:+ Show Spoiler + What is your budget? 600-1000(Prefer it did not go that high) What is your resolution? 1920x1080 What are you using it for? SC2, F2P, anything on sale on steam, and I want to set up a stream. What is your upgrade cycle? 3-4.5 years(College Student) When do you plan on building it? ASAP Do you plan on overclocking? No(b.c I have no idea) Do you need an Operating System? No Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No (I dont like playing games on that high of a setting) Where are you buying your parts from? NewEgg(Prefer) TigerDirect This is my second build the first one went as follow: -GPU- Radeon 6670 -4gb ram -1tb hard drive -Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz -LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard -Bundle case(with speakers and 500watt power supply) Honestly I want a better computer than the one I build the first time. I prefer if anyone has a good build that meets most of my qualifications that they still reply. Unless you already sold the first build, just buy a new cpu,gpu and psu (unless its a reputable brand). A no name PSU can only put out ~250w if its rated at 500. and then there's the problem of efficiency. i5-2400 $189.99 www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 MSI N460 GTX $129.99 (89.99AMIR) Free NBA2K11 Coupon www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127646 IF necessary PC Power and Cooling Mark III 400w Modular 80+ Bronze $69.99 (49.99AMIR) www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703034 | ||
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SilentVico
United States128 Posts
On May 30 2012 10:02 iTzSnypah wrote: Unless you already sold the first build, just buy a new cpu,gpu and psu (unless its a reputable brand). A no name PSU can only put out ~250w if its rated at 500. and then there's the problem of efficiency. i5-2400 $189.99 www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 MSI N460 GTX $129.99 (89.99AMIR) Free NBA2K11 Coupon www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127646 IF necessary PC Power and Cooling Mark III 400w Modular 80+ Bronze $69.99 (49.99AMIR) www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703034 Im giving my computer to my brother(F2P newb). I might update the computer anyways. The only thing is I never took parts out so I fear I might break my baby. | ||
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SilentVico
United States128 Posts
On May 30 2012 09:20 kaifragrance wrote: He said he's not planning on overclocking. P.M it to me. tell me if u still need my email. | ||
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Thaniri
1264 Posts
I own this computer here. My power supply is 400W, I have the quad core model. I'm pretty sure this is the motherboard. My hard drive recently decided to shit the bed, so I wanted to take the opportunty to upgrade other parts of my computer. I want to be able to run Starcraft/CS:GO on medium/high settings. I am more interested in a steady high FPS than to play on super ultra awesome graphics settings. I have a budget of $400-500 but since I am a computer building virgin, I am afraid to change too many parts on my computer. I will only shop from ncix.ca, I just prefer walking in to a store, judge me  .I'm trying to find somewhere I can buy windows 7 for a students price rather than full price. I wanted to buy a new graphics card and hard drive, and expect also to buy a power supply as a result of it. However I do not know which graphics card to choose, I spent a lot of time looking at the $150CAD range, then realized they all had a standard of PCI 2.1 buses, which I do not think my motherboard has. I am pretty sure I have 2xPCI-E Gen.2 judging by reading the motherboard, and also one slot in which a Radeon HD 4650 sits (very tiny card.) + Show Spoiler + The website with the motherboard specs says 1* PCI Express x16 1* PCI Express x1 2* PCI So, long story short, I need a new hard drive and graphics card, maybe a power supply if it exceeds 400W. If pics help at all, idk... Crappy phone camera. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On May 30 2012 11:22 Thaniri wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Hello, I own this computer here. My power supply is 400W, I have the quad core model. I'm pretty sure this is the motherboard. My hard drive recently decided to shit the bed, so I wanted to take the opportunty to upgrade other parts of my computer. I want to be able to run Starcraft/CS:GO on medium/high settings. I am more interested in a steady high FPS than to play on super ultra awesome graphics settings. I have a budget of $400-500 but since I am a computer building virgin, I am afraid to change too many parts on my computer. I will only shop from ncix.ca, I just prefer walking in to a store, judge me .I'm trying to find somewhere I can buy windows 7 for a students price rather than full price. I wanted to buy a new graphics card and hard drive, and expect also to buy a power supply as a result of it. However I do not know which graphics card to choose, I spent a lot of time looking at the $150CAD range, then realized they all had a standard of PCI 2.1 buses, which I do not think my motherboard has. I am pretty sure I have 2xPCI-E Gen.2 judging by reading the motherboard, and also one slot in which a Radeon HD 4650 sits (very tiny card.) + Show Spoiler + The website with the motherboard specs says 1* PCI Express x16 1* PCI Express x1 2* PCI So, long story short, I need a new hard drive and graphics card, maybe a power supply if it exceeds 400W. If pics help at all, idk... Crappy phone camera. + Show Spoiler + XFX HD6870 $179.99 with savings code 62756-1019 ($149.99AMIR) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=62756&vpn=HD687AZHFC&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1019 Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB $99.99 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58881&vpn=WD10EALX&manufacture=Western Digital WD You won't need a new PSU. | ||
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kamkerx
United States264 Posts
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Haine
15 Posts
I'm in the final stages of deciding my build, so I want a last opinion on it. This build should not get too much more expensive than this. I don't need an OS. I plan to not overclock and will be running dual monitor. I'm aiming it to be able to play new games ~3-5 years from now with low-medium settings without a sweat. The site I'm getting all prices from are dutch, since that way I dont have to pay shipping. I looked up the build in hardwareversand, but that's only about 12-13 euros cheaper, which will be offset by shipping. The main advice I'm currently looking for is if this will all fit in my case and if everything is compatible etc. CPU Intel® Core™ i5-2380P € 179,90 http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/information/pageBuilder.html?articleId=981874&kind=pcBuilder motherboard ASRock H61M-HVS € 44,49 http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/information/pageBuilder.html?articleId=1002409&kind=pcBuilder RAM Corsair 8 GB DDR3-1333 € 53,90 http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/information/pageBuilder.html?articleId=987925&kind=pcBuilder I realize 2x4 might be a few euros cheaper, but I want to keep the option to expand to 16 later. GPU SAPPHIRE HD6850 (11180-00-20R) € 119,90 http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/information/pageBuilder.html?articleId=731578&kind=pcBuilder PSU Corsair CMPSU-500CXV2 € 56,90 http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/information/pageBuilder.html?articleId=884856&kind=pcBuilder HDD Seagate ST1000DM003 € 86,90 http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/information/pageBuilder.html?articleId=963366&kind=pcBuilder SSD Crucial CT128M4SSD2 € 109,90 http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/information/pageBuilder.html?articleId=860676&kind=pcBuilder So apparently this comes in a SSD1 and SSD2 version, which are identical except one is 7mm and one is 9mm. The price is also identical. So which is more practical? DVD LG GH24NS70 € 14,99 http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/information/pageBuilder.html?articleId=864988&kind=pcBuilder Case Fractal Design Core 1000 € 34,99 http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/information/pageBuilder.html?articleId=866222&kind=pcBuilder | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On May 30 2012 19:33 Haine wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Hello everyone, I'm in the final stages of deciding my build, so I want a last opinion on it. This build should not get too much more expensive than this. I don't need an OS. I plan to not overclock and will be running dual monitor. I'm aiming it to be able to play new games ~3-5 years from now with low-medium settings without a sweat. The site I'm getting all prices from are dutch, since that way I dont have to pay shipping. I looked up the build in hardwareversand, but that's only about 12-13 euros cheaper, which will be offset by shipping. The main advice I'm currently looking for is if this will all fit in my case and if everything is compatible etc. CPU Intel® Core™ i5-2380P € 179,90 http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/information/pageBuilder.html?articleId=981874&kind=pcBuilder motherboard ASRock H61M-HVS € 44,49 http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/information/pageBuilder.html?articleId=1002409&kind=pcBuilder RAM Corsair 8 GB DDR3-1333 € 53,90 http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/information/pageBuilder.html?articleId=987925&kind=pcBuilder I realize 2x4 might be a few euros cheaper, but I want to keep the option to expand to 16 later. GPU SAPPHIRE HD6850 (11180-00-20R) € 119,90 http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/information/pageBuilder.html?articleId=731578&kind=pcBuilder PSU Corsair CMPSU-500CXV2 € 56,90 http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/information/pageBuilder.html?articleId=884856&kind=pcBuilder HDD Seagate ST1000DM003 € 86,90 http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/information/pageBuilder.html?articleId=963366&kind=pcBuilder SSD Crucial CT128M4SSD2 € 109,90 http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/information/pageBuilder.html?articleId=860676&kind=pcBuilder So apparently this comes in a SSD1 and SSD2 version, which are identical except one is 7mm and one is 9mm. The price is also identical. So which is more practical? DVD LG GH24NS70 € 14,99 http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/information/pageBuilder.html?articleId=864988&kind=pcBuilder Case Fractal Design Core 1000 € 34,99 http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/information/pageBuilder.html?articleId=866222&kind=pcBuilder The 9mm one, as the 7mm one is for laptops. Everything looks fine. | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
On May 30 2012 12:56 kamkerx wrote: can someone recommend a mother board for a i5 2500k, 240 pin ram, and an ssd. MSI Z68 mATX motherboard. Have to give you a conservative option because you're giving close to zero information. On May 30 2012 19:33 Haine wrote: Hello everyone, I'm in the final stages of deciding my build, so I want a last opinion on it. This build should not get too much more expensive than this. I don't need an OS. I plan to not overclock and will be running dual monitor. I'm aiming it to be able to play new games ~3-5 years from now with low-medium settings without a sweat. The site I'm getting all prices from are dutch, since that way I dont have to pay shipping. I looked up the build in hardwareversand, but that's only about 12-13 euros cheaper, which will be offset by shipping. The main advice I'm currently looking for is if this will all fit in my case and if everything is compatible etc. Well assuming you have a 1080P monitor, this desktop should be fine. Good job, you've picked pretty good parts. Personally, I would swap out that processor for a standard i5 2400, which is cheaper by 2 Euros. The two, I think, are exactly the same in performance; the difference is that the i5-2380P doesn't seem to have integrated graphics while the i5 2400 does. Integrated graphics can be useful because it can help you troubleshoot. If you have a discrete GPU (i.e. that AMD GPU you are going to buy) installed, it will automatically switch itself off. | ||
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Madoga
Netherlands471 Posts
On May 30 2012 19:33 Haine wrote: PSU Corsair CMPSU-500CXV2 € 56,90 http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/information/pageBuilder.html?articleId=884856&kind=pcBuilder You could get the cx430v2. The 430W version is plenty and you'll save another 10-15 euros. | ||
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KeyTone
1 Post
Here are my answers to the questions in the OP: + Show Spoiler + What is your budget? About $2000 at most, but aiming for $1500-ish. What is your resolution? I want to run on two screens at 1920x1080 for work, but for gaming I'll only be using one of them. I already have the monitors, so they don't need to be added to the budget. What are you using it for? Audio: I'm going to be running Ableton Live and doing some production/recording. I want to hook it up to an external audio interface which I have. It might be worth mentioning that the software I use doesn't support hyperthreading. Games: - Starcraft 2 - Diablo 3, Torchlight 2 - Skyrim, Oblivion (with graphical mods) - Metro 2033 - Crysis 2 Other than those, I'm hoping to be able to game on high/ultra in the future considering my long upgrade cycle (3-4 years). What is your upgrade cycle? Pretty long, 3-4 years. When do you plan on building it? Pretty much as soon as I come up with a build, so most likely in a week or two. Do you plan on overclocking? Yes. Do you need an Operating System? Nope. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Maybe if I'm upgrading in the future? I guess it's cool to have that option open, but for now I think a single GPU will suffice, probably? Where are you buying your parts from? Australia, so probably PCCaseGear or MSY. A few other things to note: - Because I'm going to be recording, I need the computer to be relatively quiet. Not necessarily silent, but just soft enough so no sound from the fans leak into the mic. - As I wrote earlier, I have a pretty long upgrade cycle, so I'm hoping to get something together than can keep me on ultra/high throughout that cycle. Here is a build I came up with: + Show Spoiler + CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz ~$220 Case: Fractal Design Define R3 ~$110 Ram: Corsair XMS3 16GB (4 x 4GB) ~$90 Mobo: Not sure? This? SSD: OCZ Agility 60GB ~$70 Firewire Card: SIIG 3 Ports FireWire 800 Model NN-FW0012-S1 ~$50 Heatsink: Noctua NH-C14 ~$80 Optical Drive: ASUS Internal Blu-ray Drive Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM ~$60 HDD: x2 WD Caviar Green 2TB for games/movies/music/general storage x1 WD Caviar Blue 1TB for audio related software/sample libraries ~$340 PSU: Not sure as well. Looking for something that is a good balance between noise and performance. GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 570 maybe? Or should I go higher considering my upgrade cycle? ~$320 I've probably chosen a lot of bad gear, but I'm hoping to get some help from you guys . | ||
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Haine
15 Posts
On May 30 2012 19:46 Womwomwom wrote: MSI Z68 mATX motherboard. Have to give you a conservative option because you're giving close to zero information. Well assuming you have a 1080P monitor, this desktop should be fine. Good job, you've picked pretty good parts. Personally, I would swap out that processor for a standard i5 2400, which is cheaper by 2 Euros. The two, I think, are exactly the same in performance; the difference is that the i5-2380P doesn't seem to have integrated graphics while the i5 2400 does. Integrated graphics can be useful because it can help you troubleshoot. If you have a discrete GPU (i.e. that AMD GPU you are going to buy) installed, it will automatically switch itself off. Thanks everyone. Don't give me too much credit, most of my own build was replaced with these parts earlier in the thread already. If 430W is enough (which I assume), it is indeed a bit cheaper to get that one, thanks! the i5 2400 is actually almost 10 euros more expensive from this shop, so thats why I went for the 2380P, since they didnt seem to differ in performance instead of that graphics chip. Also there seems to be an integrated graphics chip on the mobo, wont that kick in for troubleshooting? Also when I want to order this, the site says I need another case fan. But the case already says it comes with one. Is it really needed to order another one? | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
You probably don't need another case fan for such a low powered system. I'd buy the system first then see if you need additional cooling. | ||
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kamkerx
United States264 Posts
On May 30 2012 19:46 Womwomwom wrote: MSI Z68 mATX motherboard. Have to give you a conservative option because you're giving close to zero information. Well assuming you have a 1080P monitor, this desktop should be fine. Good job, you've picked pretty good parts. Personally, I would swap out that processor for a standard i5 2400, which is cheaper by 2 Euros. The two, I think, are exactly the same in performance; the difference is that the i5-2380P doesn't seem to have integrated graphics while the i5 2400 does. Integrated graphics can be useful because it can help you troubleshoot. If you have a discrete GPU (i.e. that AMD GPU you are going to buy) installed, it will automatically switch itself off. Sorry about not including enough info i have an i5 2500k that i decided i will overclock, 240 pin 8 gb ram, hd 6850 gpu, and a ssd. i just need a mother board that will do well with this build | ||
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Haine
15 Posts
On May 30 2012 20:25 Madoga wrote: You could get the cx430v2. The 430W version is plenty and you'll save another 10-15 euros. The site doesnt give me an option to build this into my system. It is available when trying to pick it seperately though. So for some reason the builder considers this not compatible with the rest of my build. It doesnt seem to be that it can't fit in the case? I feel like the builder system is trying to tell me that I need 500W at minimum. How can one make an estimate of what I need? | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 31 2012 01:17 Haine wrote: The site doesnt give me an option to build this into my system. It is available when trying to pick it seperately though. So for some reason the builder considers this not compatible with the rest of my build. It doesnt seem to be that it can't fit in the case? I feel like the builder system is trying to tell me that I need 500W at minimum. How can one make an estimate of what I need? The builder system is basing it off of suggested minimums from nvidia/AMD, who have to account for units that are scraping up against fraud with their ratings. A CX430 is actually good. Well, decent, and good for cheap. | ||
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jacosajh
2919 Posts
It's not uncommon to see websites that go from something like a $40 CX430 to a $120 TX750 just to upgrade from something like an HD 5570 to an HD5770. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 31 2012 01:48 jacosajh wrote: That or they're maliciously "forcing" you to get a more expensive unit. It's not uncommon to see websites that go from something like a $40 CX430 to a $120 TX750 just to upgrade from something like an HD 5570 to an HD5770. Well fine, I won't try to be Mr Positive anymore. They're all out to fucking get you, the CIA, Elvis, and the Aliens are working together, in conjunction with Michael Moore (the true architect of 9/11, who tried to shift the blame when George Bush's hired Kenyan investigator Barack Obama almost caught up to him). They're secretly trying to increase production of expensive electronics, to increase the effects of global warming, to get huge amounts of cash donated to Al Gore, so he can acquire Google and use their huge private records of everything done on the internet to blackmail the entire world into joining a secret Amish white supremacy cult, where we'll all live at a secret compound on Mars. Uhm, back to being serious, yeah, either way it's a result of profiteering, whether it's because of the shitty PSU's being overrated, or because the company selling you the shit wants to make more money. 430w is enough for any sane quad core, single GPU configuration that isn't aiming to break overclocking records. | ||
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jacosajh
2919 Posts
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