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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
eery1
Profile Joined June 2010
52 Posts
May 28 2012 05:49 GMT
#22301
Haha, gotcha. Thank you sir! :D and thanks too Snypah!
FakePseudo
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium716 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 07:25:40
May 28 2012 07:14 GMT
#22302
+ Show Spoiler +
Considering the long upgrade cycle, I went with a good power supply and a not-quite-cheapest motherboard. Other selections are on the cheaper side, to get significantly under $900. The case is kind of suspect though, but even if it has build quality issues or if fans die, it's not like it needs all the fans to be running, or that the case being poor would make the computer stop working.

I'd really recommend upgrading the video card if desired before 5 years though.

Core i5-3450
AsRock B75 Pro3 - $270 total
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.910000

Team 2 x 4GB 1600MHz DDR3 RAM - $41
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313255

Gigabyte GTX 460 - $140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125412

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB
Samsung CD / DVD burner - $77 total
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.936994

Rosewill Capstone 450W
Rosewill Future - $105 total
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.915283

Microsoft Windows 7 64-bit OEM - $100 (but with $20 promo gift card)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986


edit: personally I'd recommend adding an SSD to that, but some people don't care much about boot or application load times, or general system responsiveness. Intel 330 60GB is $80, and even good 120-128GB SSDs like Crucial M4 / Samsung 830 / Intel 330 are only around $125 these days, still under budget.


So basically this build should fit all my demands, but i have a few questions:
-Poor me, i'm living in belgium, where could i get my components from (website or local retailer) and get my new rig built?
-I've seen the exact same build (quoted from myrmidon as well) but with a i5 3550 instead of 3450. Is that a typing error or is there some difference?
-Let's say i wanna spend like 50 € more on the graphics card, what should i go for?

Sorry for bad english and many thanks!
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iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 07:50:57
May 28 2012 07:39 GMT
#22303
On May 28 2012 16:14 FakePseudo wrote:
Show nested quote +
+ Show Spoiler +
Considering the long upgrade cycle, I went with a good power supply and a not-quite-cheapest motherboard. Other selections are on the cheaper side, to get significantly under $900. The case is kind of suspect though, but even if it has build quality issues or if fans die, it's not like it needs all the fans to be running, or that the case being poor would make the computer stop working.

I'd really recommend upgrading the video card if desired before 5 years though.

Core i5-3450
AsRock B75 Pro3 - $270 total
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.910000

Team 2 x 4GB 1600MHz DDR3 RAM - $41
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313255

Gigabyte GTX 460 - $140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125412

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB
Samsung CD / DVD burner - $77 total
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.936994

Rosewill Capstone 450W
Rosewill Future - $105 total
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.915283

Microsoft Windows 7 64-bit OEM - $100 (but with $20 promo gift card)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986


edit: personally I'd recommend adding an SSD to that, but some people don't care much about boot or application load times, or general system responsiveness. Intel 330 60GB is $80, and even good 120-128GB SSDs like Crucial M4 / Samsung 830 / Intel 330 are only around $125 these days, still under budget.


So basically this build should fit all my demands, but i have a few questions:
-Poor me, i'm living in belgium, where could i get my components from (website or local retailer) and get my new rig built?
-I've seen the exact same build (quoted from myrmidon as well) but with a i5 3550 instead of 3450. Is that a typing error or is there some difference?
-Let's say i wanna spend like 50 € more on the graphics card, what should i go for?

Sorry for bad english and many thanks!


The difference between the i5-3550 and i5-3450 is 200mhz clock speed. A HD6870. Will hardwareversand.de ship to Belgium?

EDIT: Yes they do ship to Belgium.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Pokemonxoxo
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States217 Posts
May 28 2012 08:04 GMT
#22304
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 26 2012 14:16 Pokemonxoxo wrote:
Hey guys I am back again to make another computer this time for another cousin after finishing one today. I have some leftover parts, a 500gb western digital harddrive and a fractal design core 1000 case. I was wondering if you guys can suggest me some other parts that fit the given case so I can make another computer for gaming purposes.

What is your budget?

Less than $400 for the remaining parts.

What is your resolution?

1440x900

What are you using it for?

Gaming for Sc2, D3

What is your upgrade cycle?

About 3 years.

When do you plan on building it?

ASAP

Do you plan on overclocking?

Nope

Do you need an Operating System?

Nope

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Nope

Where are you buying your parts from?

Newegg, Tigerdirect, Amazon, NCIX

Thank you.


So I am thinking about these parts. What do you guys think?

CD/DVD drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138329

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103911

Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220480

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127666

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033

Which comes up to about $283.

They must all fit into the fractal core 1000 case, so do they all fit? And is this a good deal or do I need to change some things around? My cousin might upgrade to a better monitor in the future, so I hope to get a build that satisfies his current monitor resolution and can be used for better resolutions up to 1920x1080 should he choose to get a new monitor.
Within and Without
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
May 28 2012 08:23 GMT
#22305
On May 28 2012 16:14 FakePseudo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

+ Show Spoiler +
Considering the long upgrade cycle, I went with a good power supply and a not-quite-cheapest motherboard. Other selections are on the cheaper side, to get significantly under $900. The case is kind of suspect though, but even if it has build quality issues or if fans die, it's not like it needs all the fans to be running, or that the case being poor would make the computer stop working.

I'd really recommend upgrading the video card if desired before 5 years though.

Core i5-3450
AsRock B75 Pro3 - $270 total
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.910000

Team 2 x 4GB 1600MHz DDR3 RAM - $41
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313255

Gigabyte GTX 460 - $140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125412

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB
Samsung CD / DVD burner - $77 total
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.936994

Rosewill Capstone 450W
Rosewill Future - $105 total
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.915283

Microsoft Windows 7 64-bit OEM - $100 (but with $20 promo gift card)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986


edit: personally I'd recommend adding an SSD to that, but some people don't care much about boot or application load times, or general system responsiveness. Intel 330 60GB is $80, and even good 120-128GB SSDs like Crucial M4 / Samsung 830 / Intel 330 are only around $125 these days, still under budget.


So basically this build should fit all my demands, but i have a few questions:
-Poor me, i'm living in belgium, where could i get my components from (website or local retailer) and get my new rig built?
-I've seen the exact same build (quoted from myrmidon as well) but with a i5 3550 instead of 3450. Is that a typing error or is there some difference?
-Let's say i wanna spend like 50 € more on the graphics card, what should i go for?

Sorry for bad english and many thanks!


i5-3450 €172,14
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/Socket 1155/56298/Intel Core i5-3450 Box, LGA1155.article

ASRock B75 Pro3 ATX €68,22
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/DDR3/59305/ASRock B75 Pro3, Sockel 1155, ATX.article

G.Skill 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1333 1.5v €35,55
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/1333 Low Voltage/44315/8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9.article

HIS HD6870 €143,46
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/1024 MB/43022/HIS HD 6870 IceQ X GDDR5 1024MB Native HDMI 2xDVI 2xMiniDP.article

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB €63,65
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/7200 RPM/39670/WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 6Gb s.article

DVD Burner €16,68
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/S-ATA/44946/LiteOn iHAS122-18 schwarz SATA.article

Antec 300 ATX Case €52,01
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/Midi/23029/Antec Three Hundred, ATX, ohne Netzteil.article

Super Flower Amazon 80+bronze 450w €41,54
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/400 - 500 Watts/30074/Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W.article

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit €79,58
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/OEM-Software/28239/Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit (SB-Version).article

Total: €672,83+Shipping

I'm not 100% sure but I believe Super Flower is a reputable brand.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 08:47:46
May 28 2012 08:46 GMT
#22306
On May 28 2012 17:04 Pokemonxoxo wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 26 2012 14:16 Pokemonxoxo wrote:
Hey guys I am back again to make another computer this time for another cousin after finishing one today. I have some leftover parts, a 500gb western digital harddrive and a fractal design core 1000 case. I was wondering if you guys can suggest me some other parts that fit the given case so I can make another computer for gaming purposes.

What is your budget?

Less than $400 for the remaining parts.

What is your resolution?

1440x900

What are you using it for?

Gaming for Sc2, D3

What is your upgrade cycle?

About 3 years.

When do you plan on building it?

ASAP

Do you plan on overclocking?

Nope

Do you need an Operating System?

Nope

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Nope

Where are you buying your parts from?

Newegg, Tigerdirect, Amazon, NCIX

Thank you.


So I am thinking about these parts. What do you guys think?

CD/DVD drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138329

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103911

Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220480

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127666

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033

Which comes up to about $283.

They must all fit into the fractal core 1000 case, so do they all fit? And is this a good deal or do I need to change some things around? My cousin might upgrade to a better monitor in the future, so I hope to get a build that satisfies his current monitor resolution and can be used for better resolutions up to 1920x1080 should he choose to get a new monitor.


No. AMD CPU's aren't good for gaming AT ALL.

i3-2100 & DVD Burner $126.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.936621

Biostar H61 mATX $49.99
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138332

Pareema 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3-1333 1.5v $20.99
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576003

Zotac GTX 560 $159.99 ($129.99AMIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500225

Corsair CX430v2 $40.50 with promo code CorsairPSU10 (30.50AMIR)
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

Total: $398.45 (358.45AMIR)

It will run what you want on High/ultra.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Crashburn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States476 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 09:09:52
May 28 2012 09:07 GMT
#22307
A couple of noobish questions, if you will:

- Is there a meaningful difference between Sapphire HD 7850's and others, such that I should wait until NewEgg gets more Sapphires in stock?

- Can you compare and contrast these motherboards and tell me which is better? I did some myself but I don't know how to properly weight the differences. For instance, the second link has one more PCI slot, but is it crucial?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157306

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.909999

Thanks again. Here's what I have so far overall, in case you'd like to critique: http://i.imgur.com/wY1kV.jpg (it's sans graphics card and I've replaced the RAM depicted with the Team RAM that Myrmidon suggested)
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
May 28 2012 09:44 GMT
#22308
On May 28 2012 18:07 Crashburn wrote:
A couple of noobish questions, if you will:

- Is there a meaningful difference between Sapphire HD 7850's and others, such that I should wait until NewEgg gets more Sapphires in stock?

- Can you compare and contrast these motherboards and tell me which is better? I did some myself but I don't know how to properly weight the differences. For instance, the second link has one more PCI slot, but is it crucial?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157306

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.909999

Thanks again. Here's what I have so far overall, in case you'd like to critique: http://i.imgur.com/wY1kV.jpg (it's sans graphics card and I've replaced the RAM depicted with the Team RAM that Myrmidon suggested)


The difference between 7850's is Customer Support, Cooling system and the GPU's clock.

Pretty simple. B75 doesn't support OC and Z77 does.

You have no PSU listed.

Rosewill Capstone 450w is 80+ Gold (>87% efficiency at 20/50/80% load) $70 (10% OFF with Promo code PSUMAY10)
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

You could also get the Modular version for an extra $10. ($80)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182261

OR you could get an 80+Bronze (>82% efficiency at 20/50/80% load) such as the PC Power and Cooling Mark III Modular 400w for $50 AMIR.
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703035
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Crashburn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States476 Posts
May 28 2012 09:50 GMT
#22309
Thanks, iTzSnypah!

I did have a PSU but I guess it didn't go through when I clicked.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341017

Since I'm not OCing, there's no other meaningful differences between the two motherboards I listed? That makes things a lot easier.

Which HD 7850 would you recommend in terms of cooling and clock?
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
May 28 2012 10:07 GMT
#22310
On May 28 2012 18:50 Crashburn wrote:
Thanks, iTzSnypah!

I did have a PSU but I guess it didn't go through when I clicked.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341017

Since I'm not OCing, there's no other meaningful differences between the two motherboards I listed? That makes things a lot easier.

Which HD 7850 would you recommend in terms of cooling and clock?


Just get the cheapest one. Almost all of them are at reference clock unless specified.

The HIS 7850 looks good. $250 ($230AMIR)
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161406
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
May 28 2012 13:30 GMT
#22311
found this on craiglist and was wondering if it was worth it. i bolded the important parts, but would like some opinions from more experienced people than I.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UCXzpcTYumWrLD0B494uRB_MvYCVQW9XaSFcstHL_NI/edit
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 28 2012 13:55 GMT
#22312
On May 28 2012 22:30 xrapture wrote:
found this on craiglist and was wondering if it was worth it. i bolded the important parts, but would like some opinions from more experienced people than I.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UCXzpcTYumWrLD0B494uRB_MvYCVQW9XaSFcstHL_NI/edit


Well, you won't technically get much better for $350 without used components or theft, but I wouldn't trust it.

He's also not mentioning what settings he plays those games on. I'll give you a hint, it's not maxed.

A used PC is generally a bad idea unless you know the seller.
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
May 28 2012 13:56 GMT
#22313
So, I ordered a 64GB Crucial M4 SSD back in November for my PC. The problem I have is that I want to install some games on it, but only have 21GB remaining. I was looking at buying one of the 128GB M4s (Can get them for around £77 GBP, only about £9 more than I paid for my 64GB in November!), but then I'd have 2 SSDs and from what I hear, they're not worth selling second hand. What should I do?
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 28 2012 13:57 GMT
#22314
On May 28 2012 22:56 Mackem wrote:
So, I ordered a 64GB Crucial M4 SSD back in November for my PC. The problem I have is that I want to install some games on it, but only have 21GB remaining. I was looking at buying one of the 128GB M4s (Can get them for around £77 GBP, only about £9 more than I paid for my 64GB in November!), but then I'd have 2 SSDs and from what I hear, they're not worth selling second hand. What should I do?


You can use 2 SSD's in one system.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
May 28 2012 13:59 GMT
#22315
The parts individually are probably more than $350, but that doesn't mean they're worth it because they're old and used.

I sold a desktop on craigslist recently with an i5 750, HD 5770, 60 GB SSD, and 600W OCZ Stealthstream PSU for $450 (and most of the parts still had a warranty left); and I felt like that was a pretty good deal for me.

This is considering that you can build a new system for around $700 (including mouse, keyboard, and screen) that will be much better.
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
May 28 2012 14:02 GMT
#22316
On May 28 2012 22:57 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 22:56 Mackem wrote:
So, I ordered a 64GB Crucial M4 SSD back in November for my PC. The problem I have is that I want to install some games on it, but only have 21GB remaining. I was looking at buying one of the 128GB M4s (Can get them for around £77 GBP, only about £9 more than I paid for my 64GB in November!), but then I'd have 2 SSDs and from what I hear, they're not worth selling second hand. What should I do?


You can use 2 SSD's in one system.


I know you can use both, but it's one of those things where 64GB is too small but I doubt I'd fill 128GB (Not for quite a while at least). I have the option of either keeping the 64GB and buying the 128GB anyway or selling the 64GB (Average used price on eBay is around £45-£50) and buy the 128GB, meaning I'd recoup some of the £78 and would effectively only be paying around £28-£33.
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
May 28 2012 14:08 GMT
#22317
On May 28 2012 23:02 Mackem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 22:57 JingleHell wrote:
On May 28 2012 22:56 Mackem wrote:
So, I ordered a 64GB Crucial M4 SSD back in November for my PC. The problem I have is that I want to install some games on it, but only have 21GB remaining. I was looking at buying one of the 128GB M4s (Can get them for around £77 GBP, only about £9 more than I paid for my 64GB in November!), but then I'd have 2 SSDs and from what I hear, they're not worth selling second hand. What should I do?


You can use 2 SSD's in one system.


I know you can use both, but it's one of those things where 64GB is too small but I doubt I'd fill 128GB (Not for quite a while at least). I have the option of either keeping the 64GB and buying the 128GB anyway or selling the 64GB (Average used price on eBay is around £45-£50) and buy the 128GB, meaning I'd recoup some of the £78 and would effectively only be paying around £28-£33.


After paying eBay fees and shipping, how much would you recoup? And what about your time and effort? Is it worth it still?
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
May 28 2012 14:13 GMT
#22318
By the time I paid eBay fees etc., I'd end up with about £40ish for it (Assuming I sell it for £50).
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
May 28 2012 14:17 GMT
#22319
I don't know, I'd fill up a 64 gb in no time. If you plan to keep the computer for a few years you'll probably want more room at some point anyway.
Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
May 28 2012 14:20 GMT
#22320
Waiting for that day when SSD become cheaper
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