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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
STYDawn
Profile Joined December 2011
137 Posts
May 17 2012 01:58 GMT
#22001
On May 17 2012 10:41 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 10:27 Nizzy wrote:
Thanks so much guys (the 2 guys) that replied. I'm not sure I'm understanding some of it though.

The 3820, is quad instead of dual channel, 10mb L3 Cache instead of 8, 3.6 Ghz instead of 3.5.. All for like 20 bucks cheaper. It seems like such a better deal.

Yes its mainly for computer gaming but also what to do some HD streaming of even games like battlefield3. So its going to need to be stocked.

Im thinking the dual cards in SLI so their isnt as much work on just 1 card. Also I want tri monitor set up. I saw the 590 has 3 dvi out's on it but I dont want to pay 700 for it.

Thanks for explaining that the bench marks are pretty much worthless.


X79 motherboards are twice as expensive as Z77...

Stock clock is irrelevant since you are overclocking lol.

You're getting a 3820 yet you're complaining about the cost of a shitty GTX 590 being $700...


wait why a 590 in the first place? why isnt he getting a new gen card?
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 04:10:45
May 17 2012 03:39 GMT
#22002
My new build won't post. Help please.

Asus sabertooth z77
intel i5 3570k
2x4gb corsair vengeance
NZXT 850w hale82 series

Is all I have plugged in right now. Double checked all the connections, they seem to be fine. When I turn on the power supply, I get a green light on the motherboard. When I short the PWR SW pins with a screw driver to turn it on, the fan on the PSU budges a little bit and then nothing happens. CPU fan doesn't spin, no additional lights on the mobo, nothing.

I've tried resetting the bios, I've tried booting with 1 stick of ram instead of 2... still nothing.

If I were to guess, I would say I have a bad power supply?
Nizzy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States839 Posts
May 17 2012 05:04 GMT
#22003
On May 17 2012 10:41 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 10:27 Nizzy wrote:
Thanks so much guys (the 2 guys) that replied. I'm not sure I'm understanding some of it though.

The 3820, is quad instead of dual channel, 10mb L3 Cache instead of 8, 3.6 Ghz instead of 3.5.. All for like 20 bucks cheaper. It seems like such a better deal.

Yes its mainly for computer gaming but also what to do some HD streaming of even games like battlefield3. So its going to need to be stocked.

Im thinking the dual cards in SLI so their isnt as much work on just 1 card. Also I want tri monitor set up. I saw the 590 has 3 dvi out's on it but I dont want to pay 700 for it.

Thanks for explaining that the bench marks are pretty much worthless.


X79 motherboards are twice as expensive as Z77...

Stock clock is irrelevant since you are overclocking lol.

You're getting a 3820 yet you're complaining about the cost of a shitty GTX 590 being $700...


3820 is only 300, when compared with other top i7 sandy bridge proc's it seems like a great deal for the better specs/same price. A strong proc is a great place to start.

The 590 just seems like its not worth the money for me. However the extra cache/ghz basic speeds over the 3820 proc over the 2700k seem worth it for 300.
Nizzy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States839 Posts
May 17 2012 05:39 GMT
#22004
Ive taken some advice. I don't think the Sabretooth is needed.

ASUS PX79 (still quad channel support) ($100 less)
i7 3820 Proc
SLI 560 NVidia 2GB x2
800W
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 07:30:15
May 17 2012 07:24 GMT
#22005
Why do you want quad channel support? It is utterly useless for 99% of people. You are not the 1% that can benefit from it. The Intel i7 3820 is the shitty X79 processor that is worse than the i7 2600k. The only LGA2011 processor worth anything is the Intel i7 3930k and that's because of the core/thread count.

Edit:
I've already given you a very good sample build. What is honestly wrong with it?

Power Supply: 450W Rosewill Capstone,
DVD Drive: Optiarc
SSD for programs: Crucial SSD 120GB
Motherboard: MSI Z77 G43
Processor: i5 3570K with $20 gift card
GPU: HD7850 with $20 rebate.
Memory: Gskill 8GB
Hard Drive for data: 2TB Barracuda Green
CPU Cooler: Hyper 212+ with $10 rebate.
Case: Lian Li PC-K9B w/ window with discount coupon (LLMay2012)

Total: Hitting around $1,100 minus speakers, keyboard, monitor, and operating system. A similar system from ibuypower is $1,337 using the configuration tool. Assuming Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit is $100, that gives you $137 to put towards a good sound system like some Audioengines, which will sound a hell lot better than any multimedia pack on the market.
Frost
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1042 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 07:51:07
May 17 2012 07:28 GMT
#22006
Ok guys.
Big update;


CPU: Core i3 2100 LGA 1155 3.1GHz Boxed Processor $89.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0359809

Motherboard: BIOSTAR TZ77XE3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS $124.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138355

RAM:
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 $46.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314

GPU:
SAPPHIRERadeon HD 7850 OC 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card ( 11200-01-20G
$259.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102984&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

HDD: Combo deal
Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive + ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS – OEM
$104.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.936999

PSU: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650M 650W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Semi Modular High Performance Power Supply $109.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139031

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

Help me find a good power sink to handle the GPU!
Also, can someone verify if the PSU is compatible with my GPU?
In overall, please comment on the compatibility of the entire build!
Nabutso
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 08:01:07
May 17 2012 07:56 GMT
#22007
You don't need nearly that many watts for that GPU, you want a quality 400w unit so something like neo eco 400c or something.

You also don't want a Z77 with a 2nd gen i3, you want something like an H67.
Frost
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1042 Posts
May 17 2012 07:59 GMT
#22008
On May 17 2012 16:56 Nabutso wrote:
You don't need nearly that many watts for that GPU, you want a quality 400w unit so something like neo eco 400c or something.


Thank you for your response, but I don't want to take any chances with lower watts. Could you see if the PSU is compatible with the GPU? Also, what would be a good heatsink for the GPU?
Nabutso
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 08:05:13
May 17 2012 08:02 GMT
#22009
On May 17 2012 16:59 Frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 16:56 Nabutso wrote:
You don't need nearly that many watts for that GPU, you want a quality 400w unit so something like neo eco 400c or something.


Thank you for your response, but I don't want to take any chances with lower watts. Could you see if the PSU is compatible with the GPU? Also, what would be a good heatsink for the GPU?


You don't need to buy a seperate heatsink for the GPU, they come with one.

And I am actually 200% sure that that PSU will power your build, to the point that I'll point out that I had a 520c (480w on 12v rail) powering a gtx 680, a 6870, and a 2600k @5ghz all at max load.

edit: the whole marketing campaign to try to convince people that they need 3-4x their actual wattage is ridiculous.
OneBaseKing
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Afghanistan412 Posts
May 17 2012 08:08 GMT
#22010
I have a GPU with 3gb VRAM. But on the system settings, it only shows 2790 mb of vram is that supposed to be correct?
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 08:25:33
May 17 2012 08:20 GMT
#22011
On May 17 2012 17:08 bbrian wrote:
I have a GPU with 3gb VRAM. But on the system settings, it only shows 2790 mb of vram is that supposed to be correct?


The difference is how memory capacity is measured. You, and the manufacturer, use decimal. Your computer uses binary. Your video card for example has 3 gigabytes; "gigabytes" is decimal. In binary, 1 gigabyte (1 billion bytes) is more than a billion bytes; 1,073,741,824 exactly.

3,000,000,000 bytes / 1,073,741,824 bytes = 2.79396772 gigabytes; which is exactly what your system is reporting. Everything okay here.
OneBaseKing
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Afghanistan412 Posts
May 17 2012 09:15 GMT
#22012
Thanks! Another question, Crysis is running at like 20 FPS with a 7950 GPU and a 965 BE CPU! Is my CPU bottlenecking the GPU or is it the problem in the game?
BlackKiller
Profile Joined December 2011
58 Posts
May 17 2012 09:16 GMT
#22013
Im sorry, that I am goin to post you guys a non computer build but I would like some help on the PC I build that you guys help me with. Before I started here my Specs.
Motherboard:Asrock p67 Pro3 B3
Processor: Intel i5 2500k
Graphic Card: Sapphire 7850
Boot Drive: Samsung 830 128GB
Hard Drive: Seagate 500gb
Ram: G.Skillz 1333mHz 8GB
OS: Window 7 64*. Alright here my problem my Bios take like sometimes 10 secs to get to the OS and I even have a SSD. Shouldnt my Bios load up fast like 5 sec or less. My Bios take a long time to load it like between 9-12 secs. Should I update my BIOS? Also if you do reccomend me to update my BIOS, Can you guys help me in Step by Step. Here the link of I my update Bios I think (http://www.asrock.com/mb/beta.asp?Model=P67 Pro3) Can you guys make sure that the right update bios for Asrock p67 Pro3 B3. Thanks in advance
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 13:44:49
May 17 2012 13:41 GMT
#22014
Hey guys I'm here waiting for microcenter to open to buy an i5 3570k and z77 pro4m 1155. I have a 430w psu, if I'm going to overclock will it be enough with a single Gtx 460? And I am planning to buy the rosewill challenger case. Also, could you guys recommend a mobo for an i5 3450 from microcenter?
alQahira
Profile Joined June 2011
United States511 Posts
May 17 2012 13:51 GMT
#22015
Xeo, what brand/model is your 430w power supply? If it is a good one, then it is more than enough, if it is bad, then maybe not.
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
May 17 2012 13:53 GMT
#22016
On May 17 2012 22:51 alQahira wrote:
Xeo, what brand/model is your 430w power supply? If it is a good one, then it is more than enough, if it is bad, then maybe not.

Corsair builder series
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
May 17 2012 13:59 GMT
#22017
On May 17 2012 22:51 alQahira wrote:
Xeo, what brand/model is your 430w power supply? If it is a good one, then it is more than enough, if it is bad, then maybe not.

Corsair builder series
ForJungSooYeon
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada63 Posts
May 17 2012 14:12 GMT
#22018
Here is my build so far; I don't have a motherboard picked yet could someone look over my build and suggest me a motherboard from newegg.ca?

http://imgur.com/uvHPJ
OTL
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
May 17 2012 14:19 GMT
#22019
You might want to use NCIX. Prices are probably better and you get to help out a Canadian business.

Anyway, any H61 board is fine. Just pick anyone from MSI, Asrock, or Asus. Doesn't really matter how expensive or cheap it is as long as it has the features you know you're going to use. For instance, if you need 6 rear USB ports then get a motherboard that has that.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
May 17 2012 14:21 GMT
#22020
On May 17 2012 23:12 ForJungSooYeon wrote:
Here is my build so far; I don't have a motherboard picked yet could someone look over my build and suggest me a motherboard from newegg.ca?

http://imgur.com/uvHPJ


How about you spend $5 more and get a 3450..

MSI H77MA-G43 $88.99
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130648

IF you got a 3450 you wouldn't need to BIOS flash the motherboard.
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