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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
May 14 2012 05:28 GMT
#21841
Read that a good mouse pad is more important than mouse or keyboard for gaming... Well, since I've bought Mouse and Keyboard recently, all that's left is a nice mouse pad! Any suggestion? (Preferably using NCIX)
brokenLoL
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom419 Posts
May 14 2012 06:47 GMT
#21842
Thinking about getting the ivy bridge i5 but there's only a 3% performance increase so I might as well get a discount sandy bridge i5
Save me from myself
sjppeere
Profile Joined May 2012
1 Post
May 14 2012 07:29 GMT
#21843
Hey guys! Really want your opninion on my new gaming desktop.

Main question is. Is my PSU good enough for the system giving below?

CPU: Intel Core i5 3570K Boxed
CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen 2 Rev. B
GPU: Asus HD7850-DC2-2GD5GPU
Memory: Vengeance VoedingCorsair CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9
Mobo: Asrock Z77 Pro3
PSU: Corsair Enthusiast TX550M
Case: ZwartCorsair Carbide 500R Black
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB ST2000DM001
DVD: Sony Optiarc AD-7280S

iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
May 14 2012 07:35 GMT
#21844
looks good.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 14 2012 07:44 GMT
#21845
It's already bought?

TX550M is way more than enough, and it's pretty good. In some European countries the Thermaltake Toughpower XT 575W is about the same price or cheaper, and that's better. If you really want something modular, there aren't too many cheaper alternatives though.
boNStarcraft
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden30 Posts
May 14 2012 07:50 GMT
#21846
On May 14 2012 02:46 boNStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 02:39 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
On May 14 2012 02:34 boNStarcraft wrote:
Hi there i'm buying a new computer and would like some advice on components to get but i'm abit in doubt on what too chose so i would like to ask some people that are more informed than me

Could someone give me advice on a good build for a budget of around ~2400$

Would really be appreciated and thanks in advance!


pls answer the questions in the first spoiler in the OP in your post to get solid advice. do that and im sure youll quickly have nice build recommended from our techheads.

and if you just wanna play games with it that budget is like double of what you need for a sick ass gaming machine.

Oh sorry just came into the middle of this thread, didnt see the OP

+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?

My budget would be around ~$2350

What is your resolution?

Will be getting a 1920x1080 120hz screen shortly after i buy the computer.

What are you using it for?

I will game while streaming and i want to be able to stream at a really high quality as my internet would allow it.
Will also be doing some photoshop, after effects and compiling of computer software.

What is your upgrade cycle?

About 5 years.

When do you plan on building it?

I will order the parts sometime this week.

Do you plan on overclocking?

I'm planning on overclocking the processor abit, yes.

Do you need an Operating System?

Not reall.y

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Not that i'm aware of, but who knows. Maybe in the future.

Where are you buying your parts from?

I will be buying it from http://www.inet.se which is a Swedish site.


Any one? :/
Really wanna order a new computer D:
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 08:38:58
May 14 2012 08:17 GMT
#21847
Quick question do you want to play in 3D? Like wear those silly glasses and see everything pop out?

Basically the build might be something along the lines of:
- Intel Core i7 2600K
- Asus P8Z68-V GEN3
- Crucial SSD m4 128GB
- 2TB Samsung Ecogreen F4EG
- FSP Aurum 500W 80+ Gold (p.sure this is not the fanless model)
- Team Elite 8GB
- MSI GeForce GTX 670 OC
- Fractal Design Define R3
- Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

This comes to around 11,500 SEK, which seems to be roughly $1,650 USD. All products are from inet.se; cut and paste those products into the search engine and you should fine them. Seems like you guys get slugged by VAT or something because the price of some products is rather high.

The 120hz monitor choices would be a Samsung S23A700/750 (gloss) or a BenQ XL2420 (matte) depending on whether you like matte or glossy. Keep in mind, you must be pushing well above 60 FPS to get any benefits from these 120hz displays, especially in the case of the Samsungs which have fairly high input lag for what they are. Therefore the benefits will be high for FPS games, especially old ones like Quake and Counter Strike, and quite disappointing for late game Starcraft 2 where everything crawls to a halt no matter how good your system is. I picked an expensive GPU so you have actually some chance of getting high FPS in most modern games.

Hard to do this because I can't read Swedish so someone can probably find better prices but that's a general ballpark.
deejay
Profile Joined April 2012
Australia16 Posts
May 14 2012 09:40 GMT
#21848
Hi I would like to request a computer build and also comments on my current list of parts.

+ Show Spoiler +

To answer the original post

1.Budget
I'm flexible. obviously cheaper is always good but $2000 is my ball park figure.

2.Resolution
I need to buy a monitor too but don't add this into the price. Not sure what resolution I will end up going with. But I will say that I'm not interested in absolutely maximising the resolution

3.Uses?
Gaming.
It is possible that I will use it for CAD and CFD/FEA packages but primarily for play.

4.Upgrade cycle
Long. I want this computer to last for a while. 4 years at least

5.When do I plan on building it
In the next couple of weeks.

6.Overclocking
I'm not comfortable on manually overclocking anything. But if it is a simple option such as a profile setting then thats ok.

7.OS
Yes.

8.SLI or Crossfire
No.

9.Buying location
Australia. I'm familiar with a few good websites but suggestions are welcome.


I've also been exploring other sources of information (mainly friends) and have assembled a temporary list. Feel free to comment and make suggestions.

+ Show Spoiler +

Tower: CoolerMaster HAF 932 Advanced
Fan: Need some advice here. I know it needs to fit my chipset.
CPU: Processor Intel S2011 i7-3820 4 Core(3.60GHz/8MB/Box WITHOUT Cooling FAN)
Motherboard Intel S2011 X79 Asus [RAMPAGE IV FORMULA/BF3]
Video Card: Video Card (nV) PCI-e GTX 560 Ti SO 1GB Gigabyte [GV-N560SO-1GI-950]
RAM: Desktop DDR3 Ram 16GB Quad-Kit (4x4GB) PC3-17000 2133MHz G.Skill [RipjawsX] [F3-17000CL11Q-16GBZL] 11-11-11-30 (MB Chipset Intel X79) ----->seems a bit cheap but my friend recommended it.
DVD drive: Feel free to suggest
Hard Drive: Probably only need 1-1.5TB My friend suggested partitioning them and ensuring they run above 7200rpm
Power Supply: Not sure on this one.

Also anything else I might be missing



Thanks in advance
SunSunych
Profile Joined July 2011
Russian Federation6 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 09:47:53
May 14 2012 09:46 GMT
#21849
Hi TLForum! I want to buy new gaming (StarCraft II, Diablo III) desktop. Here is my specs:
CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 BOX 3,1 GHz
Motherboard: ASRock H77M
Memory: DDR3 2x4096 GeIL Black Dragon 1600MHz
GPU: HD 6870 1024Mb Sapphire
SSD: 90GB Kingston V200+
Case: ZALMAN Z9 Plus
PSU: 550W Chieftec

What do you think? Any subs or alternatives? Thanks!
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
May 14 2012 10:19 GMT
#21850
I dont really keep up with the latest specs so I came here for some help x:

My brother gave me his old graphics card
Its a PNY GTX 470 and I wanted to know what its value is in the current market

I'm either going to sell it or use it in a desktop that Im going to make depending on its value ><
The card is in perfectly working condition, but used
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
May 14 2012 10:22 GMT
#21851
On May 14 2012 18:46 SunSunych wrote:
Hi TLForum! I want to buy new gaming (StarCraft II, Diablo III) desktop. Here is my specs:
CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 BOX 3,1 GHz
Motherboard: ASRock H77M
Memory: DDR3 2x4096 GeIL Black Dragon 1600MHz
GPU: HD 6870 1024Mb Sapphire
SSD: 90GB Kingston V200+
Case: ZALMAN Z9 Plus
PSU: 550W Chieftec

What do you think? Any subs or alternatives? Thanks!


The parts look reasonable. I'd steer away from the Kingston SSD as it uses a SandForce controller and many people have reported issues (BSODs) with that controller.

Additionally, do you have a regular harddisk you plan to use in this new computer? 90 GB from the SSD is very little and won't fit more than Windows, 2-3 games and a bunch of smaller programs. I'd recommend combining the SSD with a 0.5 TB ~ 2 TB regular harddisk for storage.
Such flammable little insects!
boNStarcraft
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden30 Posts
May 14 2012 10:40 GMT
#21852
On May 14 2012 17:17 Womwomwom wrote:
Quick question do you want to play in 3D? Like wear those silly glasses and see everything pop out?

Basically the build might be something along the lines of:
- Intel Core i7 2600K
- Asus P8Z68-V GEN3
- Crucial SSD m4 128GB
- 2TB Samsung Ecogreen F4EG
- FSP Aurum 500W 80+ Gold (p.sure this is not the fanless model)
- Team Elite 8GB
- MSI GeForce GTX 670 OC
- Fractal Design Define R3
- Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

This comes to around 11,500 SEK, which seems to be roughly $1,650 USD. All products are from inet.se; cut and paste those products into the search engine and you should fine them. Seems like you guys get slugged by VAT or something because the price of some products is rather high.

The 120hz monitor choices would be a Samsung S23A700/750 (gloss) or a BenQ XL2420 (matte) depending on whether you like matte or glossy. Keep in mind, you must be pushing well above 60 FPS to get any benefits from these 120hz displays, especially in the case of the Samsungs which have fairly high input lag for what they are. Therefore the benefits will be high for FPS games, especially old ones like Quake and Counter Strike, and quite disappointing for late game Starcraft 2 where everything crawls to a halt no matter how good your system is. I picked an expensive GPU so you have actually some chance of getting high FPS in most modern games.

Hard to do this because I can't read Swedish so someone can probably find better prices but that's a general ballpark.


Most likely not going too play 3d ^^
Would it actually be worth getting a 120hz screen or should i just settle for a normal one? ^^

Also i'm thinking of going with Z77 and Ivy bridge instead just to get recently released hardware ^^

Also what are some thoughts on gtx 670 vs gtx 680 considering the gtx 680 is almost ~$150 dollars more for just a small amount of FPS?
SunSunych
Profile Joined July 2011
Russian Federation6 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 10:54:04
May 14 2012 10:52 GMT
#21853
On May 14 2012 19:22 Rannasha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 18:46 SunSunych wrote:
Hi TLForum! I want to buy new gaming (StarCraft II, Diablo III) desktop. Here is my specs:
CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 BOX 3,1 GHz
Motherboard: ASRock H77M
Memory: DDR3 2x4096 GeIL Black Dragon 1600MHz
GPU: HD 6870 1024Mb Sapphire
SSD: 90GB Kingston V200+
Case: ZALMAN Z9 Plus
PSU: 550W Chieftec

What do you think? Any subs or alternatives? Thanks!


The parts look reasonable. I'd steer away from the Kingston SSD as it uses a SandForce controller and many people have reported issues (BSODs) with that controller.

Additionally, do you have a regular harddisk you plan to use in this new computer? 90 GB from the SSD is very little and won't fit more than Windows, 2-3 games and a bunch of smaller programs. I'd recommend combining the SSD with a 0.5 TB ~ 2 TB regular harddisk for storage.


Thanks for reply. Yes, I have extra HDD - 500Gb for different stuff (small software and so on). 90Gb will be enough for me (exactly for Win7, SC2 and D3 + free space for temporary OS files). Any ideas how can I substitute Kingston SSD?
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 13:57:33
May 14 2012 13:52 GMT
#21854
On May 14 2012 19:40 boNStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 17:17 Womwomwom wrote:
Quick question do you want to play in 3D? Like wear those silly glasses and see everything pop out?

Basically the build might be something along the lines of:
- Intel Core i7 2600K
- Asus P8Z68-V GEN3
- Crucial SSD m4 128GB
- 2TB Samsung Ecogreen F4EG
- FSP Aurum 500W 80+ Gold (p.sure this is not the fanless model)
- Team Elite 8GB
- MSI GeForce GTX 670 OC
- Fractal Design Define R3
- Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

This comes to around 11,500 SEK, which seems to be roughly $1,650 USD. All products are from inet.se; cut and paste those products into the search engine and you should fine them. Seems like you guys get slugged by VAT or something because the price of some products is rather high.

The 120hz monitor choices would be a Samsung S23A700/750 (gloss) or a BenQ XL2420 (matte) depending on whether you like matte or glossy. Keep in mind, you must be pushing well above 60 FPS to get any benefits from these 120hz displays, especially in the case of the Samsungs which have fairly high input lag for what they are. Therefore the benefits will be high for FPS games, especially old ones like Quake and Counter Strike, and quite disappointing for late game Starcraft 2 where everything crawls to a halt no matter how good your system is. I picked an expensive GPU so you have actually some chance of getting high FPS in most modern games.

Hard to do this because I can't read Swedish so someone can probably find better prices but that's a general ballpark.


Most likely not going too play 3d ^^
Would it actually be worth getting a 120hz screen or should i just settle for a normal one? ^^

Also i'm thinking of going with Z77 and Ivy bridge instead just to get recently released hardware ^^

Also what are some thoughts on gtx 670 vs gtx 680 considering the gtx 680 is almost ~$150 dollars more for just a small amount of FPS?


GTX670 is only a few FPS worse than a GTX680 yet quite a bit cheaper. GTX680 exists as a halo card, one that is for people who cannot accept anything less than the best.

If you want Ivy Bridge, just replace the processor with a i7 3770k and a relevant Z77 board from MSI or Asus. The performance difference won't be noticeable however and Sandy Bridge is cheaper when I last checked.

How good 120hz is depends on you and the games you play. For twitch games like Quake 3 and Counterstrike, its fantastic. But 120hz is entirely pointless if you can't push the frame rates, as I said, and if you know you're going to be streaming and playing games at max settings you are not likely going to get that much benefit out of it. Especially if they're intensive games like late game SC2 and The Witcher 2. If you can't get the most out of 120hz, I honestly think the 2,300kr it costs to buy one is better put into an Eizo FS2332 or something.

I actually recommend looking at one first before making a decision, if possible. Its one of those "mileage may vary" products where just about everyone has a different opinion on it.
Cammalleri
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada190 Posts
May 14 2012 13:58 GMT
#21855
On May 14 2012 14:28 XenOmega wrote:
Read that a good mouse pad is more important than mouse or keyboard for gaming... Well, since I've bought Mouse and Keyboard recently, all that's left is a nice mouse pad! Any suggestion? (Preferably using NCIX)

I just bought a Razer Sphex, and i LOVE it, feels way better than any steelseries i've used, it's very cheap, $15~, its very thin, you have to "glue" it on a hard surface, you can also remove it and put it somewhere else without a problem.
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
May 14 2012 17:04 GMT
#21856
is a 430 W psu sufficient for i5 3570k/z77/8gb ram/gtx 460?
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
May 14 2012 17:10 GMT
#21857
On May 15 2012 02:04 xeo1 wrote:
is a 430 W psu sufficient for i5 3570k/z77/8gb ram/gtx 460?


a 430w PSU is more than enough for ANY single graphic card build.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
May 14 2012 17:54 GMT
#21858
On May 15 2012 02:10 iTzSnypah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 02:04 xeo1 wrote:
is a 430 W psu sufficient for i5 3570k/z77/8gb ram/gtx 460?


a 430w PSU is more than enough for ANY single graphic card build.


overclocking a 480 / 580 could break 430w. There was even a test where the guy peaked 800w on the gtx 580 lightning card alone.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 14 2012 17:56 GMT
#21859
GTX 580 and 800w? I don't think so unless it was on a server board under full load.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
May 14 2012 18:21 GMT
#21860
On May 15 2012 02:56 skyR wrote:
GTX 580 and 800w? I don't think so unless it was on a server board under full load.


I was talking from the card alone. Some guy from EVGA talks about it here, unfortunately the images doesn't seem to be working right now but yeah, this was measured with extreme overclocks. But even if you just sit home and overclock casually I think you can break 430w with some overvolt, from the card alone.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
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