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Chris_Havoc
United States600 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Chris_Havoc
United States600 Posts
On June 23 2022 09:33 JimmiC wrote: PEI is a pretty awesome place but small I wonder why he picked it? If memory serves, Artosis' wife is originally from PEI. | ||
Waxangel
United States33388 Posts
On June 23 2022 09:40 Chris_Havoc wrote: If memory serves, Artosis' wife is originally from PEI. If so, moving close to family when you're raising three(?) kids seems like it would just be good for everyone. | ||
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Chris_Havoc
United States600 Posts
On June 23 2022 09:43 Waxangel wrote: If so, moving close to family when you're raising three(?) kids seems like it would just be good for everyone. Indeed I suspect that's the primary reason why Artosis is leaving South Korea. Good luck to him & the family with their move. | ||
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DreamlnCode
United Kingdom77 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Ziggy
South Korea2105 Posts
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
Hopefully this means we see Artosis in non-GSL a lot more now! Also, if he's not able to cast GSL online, I hope they bring on State full-time. He was awesome with Tasteless! | ||
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Moobutt
United States1996 Posts
Can't say I'd blame Afreeca for not permitting online casts of GSL. Maybe some tri-casts with Artosis casting remotely would be a good compromise. Hell even guest casts from time to time would be rad. Gonna miss him. | ||
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RoninKenshin
Canada97 Posts
On June 23 2022 09:33 JimmiC wrote: PEI is a pretty awesome place but small I wonder why he picked it? In PEI you can buy a pretty big house with acres of land for a few hundred thousand dollars. In Vancouver/Toronto you might be able to buy a studio apartment for the same price. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
PEI is great though, hopefully he can have a wonderful time there raising his family. | ||
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Taktek
Canada4 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10340 Posts
Tastosis is a huge part of why I love watching GSL, they just do such an excellent job, I hope they'll allow online casts! | ||
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LHK
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MineraIs
United States846 Posts
Best of luck with your move buddy! | ||
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Alternity
United States74 Posts
This is a smart move though, with the Blizzard ESL contract ending after this year the future of SC2 esports in 2023+ is very much in doubt sadly. It's been a good run but leaving after GSL S3 is good timing and could help him be able to stream on twitch more during NA/EU hours. Just one more sign of the times. Best of luck to Artosis. Will be interested to see what Tasteless does in the future as well. He seems to also be trying to build a Youtube presence but not as successfully. | ||
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outscar
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19237 Posts
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ShowTheLights
Korea (South)1685 Posts
On June 23 2022 10:01 Moobutt wrote: Wow. Good for him. Never thought I'd be this sad about a relative stranger's (potential) career change. Can't say I'd blame Afreeca for not permitting online casts of GSL. Maybe some tri-casts with Artosis casting remotely would be a good compromise. Hell even guest casts from time to time would be rad. Gonna miss him. Where in the world does it say they did not permit online casts for GSL? | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
Also, safe to say you did it Artosis. | ||
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
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Dante08
Singapore4128 Posts
Wishing him and his family all the best! | ||
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True_Spike
Poland3423 Posts
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True_Spike
Poland3423 Posts
On June 23 2022 14:54 Grettin wrote: Man, end of an era. Wishing the best of luck with the move! Also, safe to say you did it Artosis. Wow, that brings back memories. Arty really did make it. | ||
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Edpayasugo
United Kingdom2215 Posts
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Edpayasugo
United Kingdom2215 Posts
On June 23 2022 16:49 True_Spike wrote: Wow, that brings back memories. Arty really did make it. Amazing, lived his dream | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
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Freeborn
Germany421 Posts
Good luck and all the best! GSL forevaaa! | ||
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psiANIDe
Korea (South)47 Posts
Going to miss Tastetosis and GSL. :/ At least they'll still cast ASL though. | ||
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tigera6
3397 Posts
And greatest of luck to Artosis and his family, thats a great family decision and we are all going to miss him. | ||
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itsdaniel
Austria334 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On June 23 2022 19:47 tigera6 wrote: Is there any reason for the GSL to stop though? Like, is the deal between Afreeca and the sponsor are going to end as well? I just see its still going fine, and we have more players coming back from military and doing pretty well and attract enough fanbase, especially with more foreigner coming over. And greatest of luck to Artosis and his family, thats a great family decision and we are all going to miss him. The GSL, like most esport events, Starcraft or otherwhise, is financed partly by Blizzard. In 2020, Blizz negociated a 3 year deal with them and ESL, it's up this year and we don't know what's next after it. The GSL in its current form is most likelly not durable without Blizzard support. | ||
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tigera6
3397 Posts
On June 23 2022 20:12 Nakajin wrote: The GSL, like most esport events, Starcraft or otherwhise, is financed partly by Blizzard. In 2020, Blizz negociated a 3 year deal with them and ESL, it's up this year and we don't know what's next after it. The GSL in its current form is most likelly not durable without Blizzard support. I might just be dead wrong on this, but I thought GSL was never part of the deal between Blizzard with ESL. Afreeca pretty much run the GSL events by themselves, with sponsorship from KR product companies. The only thing that Blizzard has to do with GSL is that its their game, but no financial support is involved. | ||
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Beelzebub1
1004 Posts
Honestly not too bummed about it though, they'll probably bring State back to cast and I thought he was great with Tasteless. | ||
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maneatingshoe
Canada484 Posts
I don't count the one time I randomly met CombatEX.... | ||
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Fighter
Korea (South)1531 Posts
I also wonder about GSL though. Even if GSL continues, it's been... man, 10 years strong with Tastosis. Seeing them cast GSL is like comfort food at this point. Those two even predate the rise of big YouTubers. Definitely sad to see that come to an end. | ||
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WGT-Baal
France3363 Posts
It was nice meeting you at various events way back in the WGT/WCG era and the first few DH in Europe outside Sweden for SC2, glad you ll be able to attend more of those in an easier way as tournaments resume, hopefully DH Montreal too. Thanks for all the work in Korea and for the scene. | ||
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
Because of course he'd do that. More seriously, if you're wondering why he's doing this, he explains it at the start of his most recent stream. His reasons are fairly sound I think and this seems like the best choice for his family. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15958 Posts
On June 23 2022 23:34 Ben... wrote: I think the funniest thing about this news is that Artosis said he already had tested to see how latency in BW to Korea was last time he was in PEI. Because of course he'd do that. More seriously, if you're wondering why he's doing this, he explains it at the start of his most recent stream. His reasons are fairly sound I think and this seems like the best choice for his family. I think everyone understands why he's doing it but it still feels a little bit sad because it's like the end of an era. But I wish him all the best of course on his new journey. | ||
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lJTJPl
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Drahkn
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DSK
England1110 Posts
On June 23 2022 12:30 BisuDagger wrote: I’ve always appreciated Dan and Nick’s contribution to Starcraft. I selfishly hope they will always be able to stay connected to the scene for as long as possible. I agree, and on the second point I am guilty of this too. I wish Artosis and his family the best of luck, and a pleasant moving process. | ||
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hiroshOne
Poland425 Posts
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ox.tQ
794 Posts
On June 23 2022 23:10 WGT-Baal wrote: PEI is a good choice tbh. good location, affordable housing, family ties (? I believe?). Big change from Seoul though ofc. There's a housing bubble in Canada, and PEI is experiencing a housing crisis currently (as are many other provinces). Isn't an issue if you or your parents own property and have access to home equity (in case you wish to co-habitate or get a mortgage although interest rates are on the rise and the rate of growth in housing year-to-year prices is leveling off...) Consumer inflation is also approaching eight percent in Canada, not to mention it is one of the most taxed countries in the world. Although PEI (and Manitoba) are the only two provinces with no specific tax bracket for people who earn more than $100,000 per year - the top tax is 16.7 percent and kicks in at $63,970. There are politicians who are pushing for higher provincial income taxes for 'top earners' in PEI. Federal income taxes are substantial and sales tax is at 15 percent in PEI. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4195 Posts
thanks to Artosis (and Tasteless) for all the memories. It was a lot of fun, especially the 2008-10 pro in-house tours, NonY's insane courage run and that couple of early GSL seasons. Fantastic stuff. Anyway.. Best of luck in your new place. Cheers  | ||
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zalem95
Peru184 Posts
On June 23 2022 09:33 JimmiC wrote: PEI is a pretty awesome place but small I wonder why he picked it? Uhmm He has 3 children and I am a father myself I guess it has to do with education and a future for his family, I live in a big city and life it's pretty expensive I heard good things about Canada and the standard of living there so I'm guessing is for that reason. Having a family is waaaaay too expensive. | ||
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Seph02
Netherlands221 Posts
Best of luck Artosis, it's a good move | ||
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WGT-Baal
France3363 Posts
On June 24 2022 03:29 ox.tQ wrote: There's a housing bubble in Canada, and PEI is experiencing a housing crisis currently (as are many other provinces). Isn't an issue if you or your parents own property and have access to home equity (in case you wish to co-habitate or get a mortgage although interest rates are on the rise and the rate of growth in housing year-to-year prices is leveling off...) Consumer inflation is also approaching eight percent in Canada, not to mention it is one of the most taxed countries in the world. Although PEI (and Manitoba) are the only two provinces with no specific tax bracket for people who earn more than $100,000 per year - the top tax is 16.7 percent and kicks in at $63,970. There are politicians who are pushing for higher provincial income taxes for 'top earners' in PEI. Federal income taxes are substantial and sales tax is at 15 percent in PEI. yes i m in Ottawa (immigrant, no parental help) and it s been horrible. But I thought PEI was still relatively decent. | ||
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Mutaller
United States1051 Posts
On June 23 2022 11:15 MineraIs wrote: Just wait until he has to play at TR16 often… the salt Best of luck with your move buddy! He will specifically stream and play during NA hours and he will have a small MMR increase by not playing as many Koreans. Consistently S rank Artosis incoming | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On June 24 2022 03:29 ox.tQ wrote: There's a housing bubble in Canada, and PEI is experiencing a housing crisis currently (as are many other provinces). Isn't an issue if you or your parents own property and have access to home equity (in case you wish to co-habitate or get a mortgage although interest rates are on the rise and the rate of growth in housing year-to-year prices is leveling off...) Consumer inflation is also approaching eight percent in Canada, not to mention it is one of the most taxed countries in the world. Although PEI (and Manitoba) are the only two provinces with no specific tax bracket for people who earn more than $100,000 per year - the top tax is 16.7 percent and kicks in at $63,970. There are politicians who are pushing for higher provincial income taxes for 'top earners' in PEI. Federal income taxes are substantial and sales tax is at 15 percent in PEI. I have relatives in Richmond, BC. Now that's a housing bubble! | ||
Mizenhauer
United States1871 Posts
On June 23 2022 15:47 Morbidius wrote: We had a good run boys, congratulations to that TL article that said the last gsl would be in 2022. The long con finally pays off. | ||
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Moonerz
United States445 Posts
I bet the better Na/Eu streaming hours will make up for the lost gsl income while Artosis figures out his next steps. And hopefully this means a lot more Arty at international events | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
Now we just wait for Rogue to be patched out of the game  | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25283 Posts
Honestly, I thought it would be better (and we saw it) sometimes with Arty + one guest caster, I enjoyed Special’s insight especially, Scan was good and I was OK to see more of it. Assuming Artosis can’t do it, I thought Tasteless did a great job letting State do his thing. Tasteless + a rotating cast of racial specialists or whoever from the foreign scene is in Korea at the time could work really well, he’s just such a genial guy it basically works whoever you stick alongside him. Obviously Tastosis has that intangible quality, but we’ll be fine. I wonder if his kids have picked up decent Korean chops, give them a little bilingual leg up being back in the Americas! | ||
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J. Corsair
United States470 Posts
He will be able to make his own hours, and even getting taxed to hell I'm sure he'll make plenty of money for his family. I'm glad he stayed in Korea as long as he did, and I'm thankful for all the seasons if excellent casting he's given us along with Tasteless. I wonder if Tasteless will follow suit eventually. He is the more eclectic and interesting personality of the two in my opinion, you can pair him with virtually any other caster and he will do great. Between the draconian social systems, lack of space, and bizarrely superficial Korean culture (and horrific air quality) I imagine Tasteless will find a new home, eventually. He seems like the type to retire in style, streaming from a bungalo on the coast of a nice area in a South American country. | ||
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
hopefully, GSL approves the online casts. | ||
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Gescom
Canada3397 Posts
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v1p3r52
New Zealand182 Posts
Tho it does make sense for him. He has a wife and a bunch of kids and living in Korea forever is probably not the best long term. Moving there he will be closer to family which will be better for his kids. Hopefully it works out good for him and we can still see him cast tournaments | ||
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661
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AxiomB
69 Posts
kind thoughts from that Tasmanian Star Guy. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
tbh i'm not sure how I would feel about GSL online casts. maybe it would be cool if Tasteless was casting live with someone else (possibly rotating) and Artosis would give his input between games or something. I never really thought I would ever read this news but it does make sense. he's truly come a long way from jumping over the barrier so he doesn't have to pay subway fare to getting a house for his family in PEI. I'm weirdly proud of Artosis. | ||
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sirok_
33 Posts
In his duo with Tasteless, Artosis was supposed to be the anaytical caster. However, if you watch the last SC2 GSL games that he casted, you will notice that he called the games prematurely and incorrectly nearly half of the time. Of course, he is a historical figure in the Starcraft scene, and people genuinely love him for it. But you can't live forever on past achievements and fame. I'm sure he'll eventually make the majority of his money from streaming/BW, and I wish him the best of luck in doing what he really loves. | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9021 Posts
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absinthfee
Germany718 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44321 Posts
Congrats to Artosis to having an amazing SK journey, being one of the biggest non-Korean names and personalities in StarCraft, and best of luck on the next step of his life! | ||
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pandorasheep
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Chris_Havoc
United States600 Posts
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sparklyresidue
United States5523 Posts
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Starecat
937 Posts
Also his chat will love him playing on the North American ladder | ||
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Marl
United States692 Posts
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pandorasheep
73 Posts
On June 23 2022 09:50 DreamlnCode wrote: Sometimes we need a change otherwise we get stuck in a rut. Best of luck to him. Whats wrong with Tastosis? | ||
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Kreuger
Sweden721 Posts
On June 25 2022 10:44 Marl wrote: I wonder what this means for his twitch stream. Won't his ping be too high to play Korean ladder? Would be cool though if it breathes some life into the US servers. According to himself it will be decent, last time he was in Canada he tried it out. And arent the server global? | ||
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AssyrianKing
Australia2111 Posts
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Meatloaf
Spain664 Posts
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jim_beavers
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I genuinely don't think that SC2 would have survived for how long as it did without Tastosis. They were the best. Their chemistry was incredible, and they never lost their magic in over ten years of casting together. Happy for Artosis, and I couldn't think of a better place to raise kids, but man does this feel like the end of GSL to me... Also, from the Tasteless video: "Would I be open to casting GSL live with anyone else but Artosis? No. I don't wanna do it with anybody else but Artosis." Man that's good to hear. | ||
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Copymizer
Denmark2087 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16702 Posts
On June 25 2022 20:50 jim_beavers wrote: I genuinely don't think that SC2 would have survived for how long as it did without Tastosis. They were the best. Their chemistry was incredible, and they never lost their magic in over ten years of casting together. I think you are reversing cause and effect. The prime mover is an unbelievably great video game franchise. This franchise attracts some great people. I'd say Artosis career rests upon the efforts of the brilliant men who created Starcraft. I'd say the Starcraft franchise does not rest upon Artosis' efforts. I personally love Starcraft. That said, in the wider scheme of things the Starcraft franchise, as great as it is gameplay wise, isn't that great of a financial success. To put things into perspective Pacman brought in over $1 Billion in 1980 for Namco. The Starcraft franchise is now 24 years old and has yet to hit the Billion dollar mark in revenue. | ||
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tommey.liang
United States362 Posts
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StabiloBoss20
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16702 Posts
One of the greatest detective shows of all time is filmed on Prince Edward Island. Tom Selleck as Magnum P.E.I. Welcome to Canada Artosis! | ||
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tigera6
3397 Posts
On June 27 2022 04:41 StabiloBoss20 wrote: Nail in the coffin for GSL? Are you implying 70-80% of GSL English viewership are there only to watch Tastetosis? | ||
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rycho
United States360 Posts
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freaquency88
Malaysia14 Posts
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On June 28 2022 14:40 tigera6 wrote: Are you implying 70-80% of GSL English viewership are there only to watch Tastetosis? ....yes, lol. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15958 Posts
On June 28 2022 14:40 tigera6 wrote: Are you implying 70-80% of GSL English viewership are there only to watch Tastetosis? Maybe not only to watch Tastosis but it's definitely a huge appeal of the tournament. Without Tastosis viewer numbers will definitely (significantly?) shrink. At least for me I probably wouldn't watch the low-tier matches like e.g. Ragnarok vs Keen if it wasn't for Tastosis commentating | ||
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ShowTheLights
Korea (South)1685 Posts
On June 28 2022 14:40 tigera6 wrote: Are you implying 70-80% of GSL English viewership are there only to watch Tastetosis? ...yes lmao you think I watch GSL if i have to listen to feardragon or grubbyzombie? fuck no User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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MJG
United Kingdom1053 Posts
On July 06 2022 15:50 ShowTheLights wrote: ...yes lmao you think I watch GSL if i have to listen to feardragon or grubbyzombie? fuck no Listening to people who actually play SC2 would be an improvement IMO. | ||
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serendipitous
Canada195 Posts
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Mizconout
49 Posts
On July 06 2022 15:50 ShowTheLights wrote: ...yes lmao you think I watch GSL if i have to listen to feardragon or grubbyzombie? fuck no User was temp banned for this post. Sports—and by extension E-Sports—is all about creating entertaining live TV. StarCraft is a community, and even for some of us its nostalgia, and personalities are inter-wound with it. Removing the iconic casting duo will irrevocably affect GSL viewership, just as English viewership of Brood War sky-rocked when Tasteosis began live casting the ASL a few years back. 80% of viewership jumping ship? Probably not; but, do not underestimate the magnitude of this—this is a big loss for StarCraft live commentary. On a personal note, Tasteless and Artosis when doing solo-casts, they just lack that special-something. Day[9] gone; InControl, RIP brother, gone; and now Artosis, gone. | ||
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