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Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
June 23 2022 00:42 GMT
#1




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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 23 2022 00:33 GMT
#2
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Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
June 23 2022 00:40 GMT
#3
On June 23 2022 09:33 JimmiC wrote:
PEI is a pretty awesome place but small I wonder why he picked it?


If memory serves, Artosis' wife is originally from PEI.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33388 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-23 00:43:39
June 23 2022 00:43 GMT
#4
On June 23 2022 09:40 Chris_Havoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2022 09:33 JimmiC wrote:
PEI is a pretty awesome place but small I wonder why he picked it?


If memory serves, Artosis' wife is originally from PEI.


If so, moving close to family when you're raising three(?) kids seems like it would just be good for everyone.
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Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-23 00:48:19
June 23 2022 00:47 GMT
#5
On June 23 2022 09:43 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2022 09:40 Chris_Havoc wrote:
On June 23 2022 09:33 JimmiC wrote:
PEI is a pretty awesome place but small I wonder why he picked it?


If memory serves, Artosis' wife is originally from PEI.


If so, moving close to family when you're raising three(?) kids seems like it would just be good for everyone.


Indeed I suspect that's the primary reason why Artosis is leaving South Korea. Good luck to him & the family with their move.
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DreamlnCode
Profile Joined December 2018
United Kingdom77 Posts
June 23 2022 00:50 GMT
#6
Sometimes we need a change otherwise we get stuck in a rut. Best of luck to him.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-23 00:53:53
June 23 2022 00:52 GMT
#7
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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
June 23 2022 00:53 GMT
#8
An instrumental figure in making Korean SC more accessible to western audiences, kind of sadge but also gl
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 23 2022 00:57 GMT
#9
Good for him! Tough choice but I wish him the best! Probably the GOAT caster.

Hopefully this means we see Artosis in non-GSL a lot more now!

Also, if he's not able to cast GSL online, I hope they bring on State full-time. He was awesome with Tasteless!
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
June 23 2022 01:01 GMT
#10
Wow. Good for him. Never thought I'd be this sad about a relative stranger's (potential) career change.

Can't say I'd blame Afreeca for not permitting online casts of GSL. Maybe some tri-casts with Artosis casting remotely would be a good compromise. Hell even guest casts from time to time would be rad.

Gonna miss him.
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RoninKenshin
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada97 Posts
June 23 2022 01:02 GMT
#11
Big moves Dan, best wishes to you and your family through it all!

On June 23 2022 09:33 JimmiC wrote:
PEI is a pretty awesome place but small I wonder why he picked it?


In PEI you can buy a pretty big house with acres of land for a few hundred thousand dollars. In Vancouver/Toronto you might be able to buy a studio apartment for the same price.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 23 2022 01:18 GMT
#12
Damn not gonna lie that shook me a little, the times they are a-changing

PEI is great though, hopefully he can have a wonderful time there raising his family.
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Taktek
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada4 Posts
June 23 2022 01:22 GMT
#13
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10340 Posts
June 23 2022 01:33 GMT
#14
Surprising, but it would be really cool if they can do online casts like with ASL!

Tastosis is a huge part of why I love watching GSL, they just do such an excellent job, I hope they'll allow online casts!
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LHK
Profile Joined May 2015
204 Posts
June 23 2022 01:44 GMT
#15
Wow. End of an era. Best of luck ‘Tosis and ‘Tosis fam. Thanks for all the amazing casts throughout the years. The absolute GOAT casting duo.
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MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
June 23 2022 02:15 GMT
#16
Just wait until he has to play at TR16 often… the salt
Best of luck with your move buddy!
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Alternity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States74 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-23 02:35:59
June 23 2022 02:35 GMT
#17
End of an era. Been watching tastetosis for over a decade now.

This is a smart move though, with the Blizzard ESL contract ending after this year the future of SC2 esports in 2023+ is very much in doubt sadly. It's been a good run but leaving after GSL S3 is good timing and could help him be able to stream on twitch more during NA/EU hours.

Just one more sign of the times. Best of luck to Artosis. Will be interested to see what Tasteless does in the future as well. He seems to also be trying to build a Youtube presence but not as successfully.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
June 23 2022 02:35 GMT
#18
Our legend deserves some rest. Wishing best of luck Arty! Take care.
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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
June 23 2022 02:40 GMT
#19
Sad to see this happens. Bon voyage Artosis.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19237 Posts
June 23 2022 03:30 GMT
#20
I’ve always appreciated Dan and Nick’s contribution to Starcraft. I selfishly hope they will always be able to stay connected to the scene for as long as possible. Im hoping SC3 or some other RTS will come out soon so their careers can continue to grow and be exciting.
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ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1685 Posts
June 23 2022 05:10 GMT
#21
On June 23 2022 10:01 Moobutt wrote:
Wow. Good for him. Never thought I'd be this sad about a relative stranger's (potential) career change.

Can't say I'd blame Afreeca for not permitting online casts of GSL. Maybe some tri-casts with Artosis casting remotely would be a good compromise. Hell even guest casts from time to time would be rad.

Gonna miss him.


Where in the world does it say they did not permit online casts for GSL?
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-23 05:58:01
June 23 2022 05:54 GMT
#22
Man, end of an era. Wishing the best of luck with the move!

Also, safe to say you did it Artosis.
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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-23 06:19:15
June 23 2022 06:18 GMT
#23
Did ZG come to visit Korea for this reason too?
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-23 06:47:48
June 23 2022 06:47 GMT
#24
We had a good run boys, congratulations to that TL article that said the last gsl would be in 2022.
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Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
June 23 2022 07:24 GMT
#25
End of an era.

Wishing him and his family all the best!
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3423 Posts
June 23 2022 07:49 GMT
#26
Truly end of an era. That said, online GSL casts are probably not the best idea.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3423 Posts
June 23 2022 07:49 GMT
#27
On June 23 2022 14:54 Grettin wrote:
Man, end of an era. Wishing the best of luck with the move!

Also, safe to say you did it Artosis.


Wow, that brings back memories. Arty really did make it.
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2215 Posts
June 23 2022 07:55 GMT
#28
Did not see this coming, Artosis has given me so much joy : so thank you
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Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2215 Posts
June 23 2022 07:56 GMT
#29
On June 23 2022 16:49 True_Spike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2022 14:54 Grettin wrote:
Man, end of an era. Wishing the best of luck with the move!

Also, safe to say you did it Artosis.


Wow, that brings back memories. Arty really did make it.


Amazing, lived his dream
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 23 2022 08:51 GMT
#30
Plus side is that the east coast of Canada is one of the best time zones for esports. He’ll be more able to cover NA/EU events.
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Freeborn
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany421 Posts
June 23 2022 09:03 GMT
#31
Oh wow.
Good luck and all the best!

GSL forevaaa!
psiANIDe
Profile Joined January 2012
Korea (South)47 Posts
June 23 2022 10:21 GMT
#32
Sadly, I think this just points to the end of GSL with more certainty. :/

Going to miss Tastetosis and GSL. :/

At least they'll still cast ASL though.
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3397 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-23 10:47:41
June 23 2022 10:47 GMT
#33
Is there any reason for the GSL to stop though? Like, is the deal between Afreeca and the sponsor are going to end as well? I just see its still going fine, and we have more players coming back from military and doing pretty well and attract enough fanbase, especially with more foreigner coming over.
And greatest of luck to Artosis and his family, thats a great family decision and we are all going to miss him.
itsdaniel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Austria334 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-23 11:13:07
June 23 2022 11:10 GMT
#34
I can't blame him... if you are young, Korea is the place to be... Having multiple kids, Canada provides so much advantages in terms of space of apartments, nature, healthcare and education... perfect place to go. I wouldn't want to raise kids or getting old in Korea myself as a foreigner...
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 23 2022 11:12 GMT
#35
On June 23 2022 19:47 tigera6 wrote:
Is there any reason for the GSL to stop though? Like, is the deal between Afreeca and the sponsor are going to end as well? I just see its still going fine, and we have more players coming back from military and doing pretty well and attract enough fanbase, especially with more foreigner coming over.
And greatest of luck to Artosis and his family, thats a great family decision and we are all going to miss him.


The GSL, like most esport events, Starcraft or otherwhise, is financed partly by Blizzard. In 2020, Blizz negociated a 3 year deal with them and ESL, it's up this year and we don't know what's next after it. The GSL in its current form is most likelly not durable without Blizzard support.
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3397 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-23 11:50:17
June 23 2022 11:33 GMT
#36
On June 23 2022 20:12 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2022 19:47 tigera6 wrote:
Is there any reason for the GSL to stop though? Like, is the deal between Afreeca and the sponsor are going to end as well? I just see its still going fine, and we have more players coming back from military and doing pretty well and attract enough fanbase, especially with more foreigner coming over.
And greatest of luck to Artosis and his family, thats a great family decision and we are all going to miss him.


The GSL, like most esport events, Starcraft or otherwhise, is financed partly by Blizzard. In 2020, Blizz negociated a 3 year deal with them and ESL, it's up this year and we don't know what's next after it. The GSL in its current form is most likelly not durable without Blizzard support.

I might just be dead wrong on this, but I thought GSL was never part of the deal between Blizzard with ESL. Afreeca pretty much run the GSL events by themselves, with sponsorship from KR product companies. The only thing that Blizzard has to do with GSL is that its their game, but no financial support is involved.
Beelzebub1
Profile Joined May 2015
1004 Posts
June 23 2022 12:30 GMT
#37
All good things come to an end, thanks for the GSL casts Artosis

Honestly not too bummed about it though, they'll probably bring State back to cast and I thought he was great with Tasteless.
maneatingshoe
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada484 Posts
June 23 2022 12:42 GMT
#38
Maybe I'll bump into him if he's in Charlottetown, never met any esports personalities in person being from the east coast, would be super cool!

I don't count the one time I randomly met CombatEX....
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
June 23 2022 13:44 GMT
#39
End of an era indeed. Moving to Canada makes sense given his family situation though.

I also wonder about GSL though. Even if GSL continues, it's been... man, 10 years strong with Tastosis. Seeing them cast GSL is like comfort food at this point. Those two even predate the rise of big YouTubers. Definitely sad to see that come to an end.
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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3363 Posts
June 23 2022 14:10 GMT
#40
PEI is a good choice tbh. good location, affordable housing, family ties (? I believe?). Big change from Seoul though ofc.

It was nice meeting you at various events way back in the WGT/WCG era and the first few DH in Europe outside Sweden for SC2, glad you ll be able to attend more of those in an easier way as tournaments resume, hopefully DH Montreal too.

Thanks for all the work in Korea and for the scene.
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Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-23 14:38:11
June 23 2022 14:34 GMT
#41
I think the funniest thing about this news is that Artosis said he already had tested to see how latency in BW to Korea was last time he was in PEI.

Because of course he'd do that.

More seriously, if you're wondering why he's doing this, he explains it at the start of his most recent stream. His reasons are fairly sound I think and this seems like the best choice for his family.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
June 23 2022 15:38 GMT
#42
On June 23 2022 23:34 Ben... wrote:
I think the funniest thing about this news is that Artosis said he already had tested to see how latency in BW to Korea was last time he was in PEI.

Because of course he'd do that.

More seriously, if you're wondering why he's doing this, he explains it at the start of his most recent stream. His reasons are fairly sound I think and this seems like the best choice for his family.

I think everyone understands why he's doing it but it still feels a little bit sad because it's like the end of an era.

But I wish him all the best of course on his new journey.
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lJTJPl
Profile Joined December 2020
21 Posts
June 23 2022 15:50 GMT
#43
im devastated
Drahkn
Profile Joined June 2021
191 Posts
June 23 2022 17:13 GMT
#44
Maybe time to pass the torch, a lot of the charm of GSL is the casting from studio hearing the audience etc
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
June 23 2022 17:14 GMT
#45
On June 23 2022 12:30 BisuDagger wrote:
I’ve always appreciated Dan and Nick’s contribution to Starcraft. I selfishly hope they will always be able to stay connected to the scene for as long as possible.


I agree, and on the second point I am guilty of this too. I wish Artosis and his family the best of luck, and a pleasant moving process.
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hiroshOne
Profile Joined October 2015
Poland425 Posts
June 23 2022 18:07 GMT
#46
GSL will never be the same without this guy around. But as a father of two myself, I fully understand his motives. Goodluck brother!!!
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ox.tQ
Profile Joined November 2010
794 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-23 18:33:14
June 23 2022 18:29 GMT
#47
On June 23 2022 23:10 WGT-Baal wrote:
PEI is a good choice tbh. good location, affordable housing, family ties (? I believe?). Big change from Seoul though ofc.


There's a housing bubble in Canada, and PEI is experiencing a housing crisis currently (as are many other provinces). Isn't an issue if you or your parents own property and have access to home equity (in case you wish to co-habitate or get a mortgage although interest rates are on the rise and the rate of growth in housing year-to-year prices is leveling off...)

Consumer inflation is also approaching eight percent in Canada, not to mention it is one of the most taxed countries in the world. Although PEI (and Manitoba) are the only two provinces with no specific tax bracket for people who earn more than $100,000 per year - the top tax is 16.7 percent and kicks in at $63,970. There are politicians who are pushing for higher provincial income taxes for 'top earners' in PEI. Federal income taxes are substantial and sales tax is at 15 percent in PEI.


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Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-23 18:35:39
June 23 2022 18:30 GMT
#48
End of an era.. 14 years is A LOT of time!

thanks to Artosis (and Tasteless) for all the memories. It was a lot of fun, especially the 2008-10 pro in-house tours, NonY's insane courage run and that couple of early GSL seasons. Fantastic stuff.

Anyway.. Best of luck in your new place. Cheers
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zalem95
Profile Joined January 2011
Peru184 Posts
June 23 2022 19:50 GMT
#49
On June 23 2022 09:33 JimmiC wrote:
PEI is a pretty awesome place but small I wonder why he picked it?

Uhmm He has 3 children and I am a father myself I guess it has to do with education and a future for his family, I live in a big city and life it's pretty expensive I heard good things about Canada and the standard of living there so I'm guessing is for that reason.

Having a family is waaaaay too expensive.
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Seph02
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands221 Posts
June 23 2022 20:11 GMT
#50
I really hope the community pushes GSL to keep the tastosis duo alive, next to SC it's also the bond they have and the banter that makes people keep tuning in to SC.

Best of luck Artosis, it's a good move
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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3363 Posts
June 23 2022 20:52 GMT
#51
On June 24 2022 03:29 ox.tQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2022 23:10 WGT-Baal wrote:
PEI is a good choice tbh. good location, affordable housing, family ties (? I believe?). Big change from Seoul though ofc.


There's a housing bubble in Canada, and PEI is experiencing a housing crisis currently (as are many other provinces). Isn't an issue if you or your parents own property and have access to home equity (in case you wish to co-habitate or get a mortgage although interest rates are on the rise and the rate of growth in housing year-to-year prices is leveling off...)

Consumer inflation is also approaching eight percent in Canada, not to mention it is one of the most taxed countries in the world. Although PEI (and Manitoba) are the only two provinces with no specific tax bracket for people who earn more than $100,000 per year - the top tax is 16.7 percent and kicks in at $63,970. There are politicians who are pushing for higher provincial income taxes for 'top earners' in PEI. Federal income taxes are substantial and sales tax is at 15 percent in PEI.




yes i m in Ottawa (immigrant, no parental help) and it s been horrible. But I thought PEI was still relatively decent.
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Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
June 23 2022 21:54 GMT
#52
On June 23 2022 11:15 MineraIs wrote:
Just wait until he has to play at TR16 often… the salt
Best of luck with your move buddy!


He will specifically stream and play during NA hours and he will have a small MMR increase by not playing as many Koreans. Consistently S rank Artosis incoming
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
June 23 2022 22:10 GMT
#53
On June 24 2022 03:29 ox.tQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2022 23:10 WGT-Baal wrote:
PEI is a good choice tbh. good location, affordable housing, family ties (? I believe?). Big change from Seoul though ofc.


There's a housing bubble in Canada, and PEI is experiencing a housing crisis currently (as are many other provinces). Isn't an issue if you or your parents own property and have access to home equity (in case you wish to co-habitate or get a mortgage although interest rates are on the rise and the rate of growth in housing year-to-year prices is leveling off...)

Consumer inflation is also approaching eight percent in Canada, not to mention it is one of the most taxed countries in the world. Although PEI (and Manitoba) are the only two provinces with no specific tax bracket for people who earn more than $100,000 per year - the top tax is 16.7 percent and kicks in at $63,970. There are politicians who are pushing for higher provincial income taxes for 'top earners' in PEI. Federal income taxes are substantial and sales tax is at 15 percent in PEI.




I have relatives in Richmond, BC. Now that's a housing bubble!
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1871 Posts
June 23 2022 23:02 GMT
#54
On June 23 2022 15:47 Morbidius wrote:
We had a good run boys, congratulations to that TL article that said the last gsl would be in 2022.


The long con finally pays off.
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Moonerz
Profile Joined March 2014
United States445 Posts
June 23 2022 23:09 GMT
#55
Sad to see this but it had to happen at some point with the blizz money ending soon. Ive always kinda wondered how viable the gsl income is for a family of 5 especially as viewership and the scene in general dwindled down

I bet the better Na/Eu streaming hours will make up for the lost gsl income while Artosis figures out his next steps. And hopefully this means a lot more Arty at international events
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 24 2022 00:34 GMT
#56
On June 24 2022 08:02 Mizenhauer wrote:
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On June 23 2022 15:47 Morbidius wrote:
We had a good run boys, congratulations to that TL article that said the last gsl would be in 2022.


The long con finally pays off.


Now we just wait for Rogue to be patched out of the game
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25283 Posts
June 24 2022 01:40 GMT
#57
Noooooo. But best luck to Dan the Man and his clan

Honestly, I thought it would be better (and we saw it) sometimes with Arty + one guest caster, I enjoyed Special’s insight especially, Scan was good and I was OK to see more of it.

Assuming Artosis can’t do it, I thought Tasteless did a great job letting State do his thing.

Tasteless + a rotating cast of racial specialists or whoever from the foreign scene is in Korea at the time could work really well, he’s just such a genial guy it basically works whoever you stick alongside him.

Obviously Tastosis has that intangible quality, but we’ll be fine. I wonder if his kids have picked up decent Korean chops, give them a little bilingual leg up being back in the Americas!
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J. Corsair
Profile Joined June 2014
United States470 Posts
June 24 2022 01:45 GMT
#58
Artosis can move wherever he'd like, his well-paying career as a streamer has reached fruition. I doubt he needs the extra income from GSL/ASL - seeing as how he doesn't necessarily need them, I understand that he would prefer to take his family to relatively nicer environment for a growing family.

He will be able to make his own hours, and even getting taxed to hell I'm sure he'll make plenty of money for his family. I'm glad he stayed in Korea as long as he did, and I'm thankful for all the seasons if excellent casting he's given us along with Tasteless.

I wonder if Tasteless will follow suit eventually. He is the more eclectic and interesting personality of the two in my opinion, you can pair him with virtually any other caster and he will do great. Between the draconian social systems, lack of space, and bizarrely superficial Korean culture (and horrific air quality) I imagine Tasteless will find a new home, eventually. He seems like the type to retire in style, streaming from a bungalo on the coast of a nice area in a South American country.
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NExt
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1651 Posts
June 24 2022 04:06 GMT
#59
a long and distinct period of history has come to a final point.

hopefully, GSL approves the online casts.
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Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3397 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-24 05:03:42
June 24 2022 05:03 GMT
#60
Congratulations Artosis. A new chapter, for sure. Hope you enjoy PEI, it is lovely.
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v1p3r52
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand182 Posts
June 24 2022 07:23 GMT
#61
NGL im pretty sad hes leaving Korea, not seeing him and Nick cast together wont be the same for GSL, even if he pops in online somehow will be weird. At least ASL is still going. Selfish part of me wishes he could just stay in Korea forever and cast with Nick. Seems like an end of an era, this wasn't something i thought would actually happen.

Tho it does make sense for him. He has a wife and a bunch of kids and living in Korea forever is probably not the best long term. Moving there he will be closer to family which will be better for his kids.

Hopefully it works out good for him and we can still see him cast tournaments

661
Profile Joined May 2018
71 Posts
June 24 2022 09:39 GMT
#62
RIP GSL
AxiomB
Profile Joined August 2016
69 Posts
June 24 2022 09:46 GMT
#63
Dan is a great guy, best wishes to him and his family! Will forever appreciate the time he spent investing into BW and SC2. Much respect,
kind thoughts from that Tasmanian Star Guy.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 24 2022 10:08 GMT
#64
I wish Artosis and his family all the best. today, i learned what PEI stands for.

tbh i'm not sure how I would feel about GSL online casts. maybe it would be cool if Tasteless was casting live with someone else (possibly rotating) and Artosis would give his input between games or something.

I never really thought I would ever read this news but it does make sense. he's truly come a long way from jumping over the barrier so he doesn't have to pay subway fare to getting a house for his family in PEI. I'm weirdly proud of Artosis.
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sirok_
Profile Joined November 2019
33 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-24 10:32:58
June 24 2022 10:21 GMT
#65
It is better to stop it too soon rather than too late.
In his duo with Tasteless, Artosis was supposed to be the anaytical caster.
However, if you watch the last SC2 GSL games that he casted, you will notice that he called the games prematurely and incorrectly nearly half of the time.
Of course, he is a historical figure in the Starcraft scene, and people genuinely love him for it.
But you can't live forever on past achievements and fame.

I'm sure he'll eventually make the majority of his money from streaming/BW, and I wish him the best of luck in doing what he really loves.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9021 Posts
June 24 2022 13:15 GMT
#66
About time, to be honest.
absinthfee
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany718 Posts
June 24 2022 15:05 GMT
#67
Sucks, but all the best to Artosis for the future. He did a lot for the game and for esports as a whole. It is safe to say, that esports would not be what it is today without GSL and SC2 being their precursor.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44321 Posts
June 24 2022 15:24 GMT
#68
Artosis's video/elaboration:



Congrats to Artosis to having an amazing SK journey, being one of the biggest non-Korean names and personalities in StarCraft, and best of luck on the next step of his life!
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pandorasheep
Profile Joined February 2022
73 Posts
June 24 2022 17:36 GMT
#69
Sad for GSL! But Artosis in ESL! HELL YEAH. Maybe this is the real reason why they fired Nate...
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
June 24 2022 22:57 GMT
#70
And here is Tasteless' response/elaboration about Artosis moving and their casting of the ASL & GSL going forward.

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sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
June 24 2022 23:22 GMT
#71
The end of an era! Happy for Tosis but it makes me sad.
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Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
937 Posts
June 25 2022 00:47 GMT
#72
I'm a bit sad, hope to see stuff like Tasteless Lan Parties reminiscing sections.

Also his chat will love him playing on the North American ladder
:3
Marl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States692 Posts
June 25 2022 01:44 GMT
#73
I wonder what this means for his twitch stream. Won't his ping be too high to play Korean ladder? Would be cool though if it breathes some life into the US servers.
pandorasheep
Profile Joined February 2022
73 Posts
June 25 2022 02:13 GMT
#74
On June 23 2022 09:50 DreamlnCode wrote:
Sometimes we need a change otherwise we get stuck in a rut. Best of luck to him.


Whats wrong with Tastosis?
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden721 Posts
June 25 2022 04:29 GMT
#75
On June 25 2022 10:44 Marl wrote:
I wonder what this means for his twitch stream. Won't his ping be too high to play Korean ladder? Would be cool though if it breathes some life into the US servers.


According to himself it will be decent, last time he was in Canada he tried it out.

And arent the server global?
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2111 Posts
June 25 2022 08:59 GMT
#76
Seeing this actually makes me feel like time has flew by 🤔
John 15:13
Meatloaf
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Spain664 Posts
June 25 2022 09:44 GMT
#77
Thanks for all the good times artosis!
jim_beavers
Profile Joined June 2022
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-25 11:58:55
June 25 2022 11:50 GMT
#78
Look, I haven't watched SC content in years, but this is still really hard to read.

I genuinely don't think that SC2 would have survived for how long as it did without Tastosis. They were the best. Their chemistry was incredible, and they never lost their magic in over ten years of casting together.

Happy for Artosis, and I couldn't think of a better place to raise kids, but man does this feel like the end of GSL to me...

Also, from the Tasteless video:

"Would I be open to casting GSL live with anyone else but Artosis? No. I don't wanna do it with anybody else but Artosis."
Man that's good to hear.
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2087 Posts
June 25 2022 18:43 GMT
#79
Feels so weird but it's understandable. I started watching GSL in 2010 right after starcraft 2 came out and has pretty much been a fan every since and followed it through thick and thin.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16702 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-26 01:06:57
June 26 2022 01:05 GMT
#80
On June 25 2022 20:50 jim_beavers wrote:
I genuinely don't think that SC2 would have survived for how long as it did without Tastosis. They were the best. Their chemistry was incredible, and they never lost their magic in over ten years of casting together.

I think you are reversing cause and effect. The prime mover is an unbelievably great video game franchise. This franchise attracts some great people. I'd say Artosis career rests upon the efforts of the brilliant men who created Starcraft. I'd say the Starcraft franchise does not rest upon Artosis' efforts.

I personally love Starcraft. That said, in the wider scheme of things the Starcraft franchise, as great as it is gameplay wise, isn't that great of a financial success. To put things into perspective Pacman brought in over $1 Billion in 1980 for Namco. The Starcraft franchise is now 24 years old and has yet to hit the Billion dollar mark in revenue.
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tommey.liang
Profile Joined November 2020
United States362 Posts
June 26 2022 14:37 GMT
#81
This is huge news! Can't believe Artosis will say goodbye to Korea, his home for the past 14 years and where he rose to fame. Best of luck to him and his family as they transition to Canada.
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StabiloBoss20
Profile Joined July 2015
313 Posts
June 26 2022 19:41 GMT
#82
Nail in the coffin for GSL?
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16702 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-28 06:48:33
June 28 2022 04:53 GMT
#83
Prince Edward ISLAND is smaller in area than your typical greater metro area of a major city. It has a population less than 250,000. PEI is in the Atlantic Time Zone... 1 hour later than places like New York and Miami. The lag has gotta be pretty bad.

One of the greatest detective shows of all time is filmed on Prince Edward Island. Tom Selleck as Magnum P.E.I.


Welcome to Canada Artosis!
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3397 Posts
June 28 2022 05:40 GMT
#84
On June 27 2022 04:41 StabiloBoss20 wrote:
Nail in the coffin for GSL?

Are you implying 70-80% of GSL English viewership are there only to watch Tastetosis?
rycho
Profile Joined July 2010
United States360 Posts
June 29 2022 00:30 GMT
#85
Very happy for Artosis. Very sad for the end of GSL as we know it. Been a huge fan since the first season. Last match of season 3 is going to be really sad. All good things...
freaquency88
Profile Joined July 2019
Malaysia14 Posts
June 29 2022 00:40 GMT
#86
Really can’t imagine GSL without Artosis. All good things must come to an end I guess. GL out there Artosis.
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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
June 29 2022 10:52 GMT
#87
On June 28 2022 14:40 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2022 04:41 StabiloBoss20 wrote:
Nail in the coffin for GSL?

Are you implying 70-80% of GSL English viewership are there only to watch Tastetosis?


....yes, lol.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
June 29 2022 11:55 GMT
#88
On June 28 2022 14:40 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2022 04:41 StabiloBoss20 wrote:
Nail in the coffin for GSL?

Are you implying 70-80% of GSL English viewership are there only to watch Tastetosis?

Maybe not only to watch Tastosis but it's definitely a huge appeal of the tournament.
Without Tastosis viewer numbers will definitely (significantly?) shrink.

At least for me I probably wouldn't watch the low-tier matches like e.g. Ragnarok vs Keen if it wasn't for Tastosis commentating
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ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1685 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-06 06:50:59
July 06 2022 06:50 GMT
#89
On June 28 2022 14:40 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2022 04:41 StabiloBoss20 wrote:
Nail in the coffin for GSL?

Are you implying 70-80% of GSL English viewership are there only to watch Tastetosis?


...yes lmao

you think I watch GSL if i have to listen to feardragon or grubbyzombie?

fuck no

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MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1053 Posts
July 06 2022 08:56 GMT
#90
On July 06 2022 15:50 ShowTheLights wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2022 14:40 tigera6 wrote:
On June 27 2022 04:41 StabiloBoss20 wrote:
Nail in the coffin for GSL?

Are you implying 70-80% of GSL English viewership are there only to watch Tastetosis?


...yes lmao

you think I watch GSL if i have to listen to feardragon or grubbyzombie?

fuck no

Listening to people who actually play SC2 would be an improvement IMO.
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serendipitous
Profile Joined November 2017
Canada195 Posts
July 06 2022 23:47 GMT
#91
Losing Tastosis would be a hit to the GSL but as long as it has Rogue and Maru and herO I will watch it
Mizconout
Profile Joined August 2016
49 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-07 02:14:19
July 07 2022 02:13 GMT
#92
On July 06 2022 15:50 ShowTheLights wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2022 14:40 tigera6 wrote:
On June 27 2022 04:41 StabiloBoss20 wrote:
Nail in the coffin for GSL?

Are you implying 70-80% of GSL English viewership are there only to watch Tastetosis?


...yes lmao

you think I watch GSL if i have to listen to feardragon or grubbyzombie?

fuck no

User was temp banned for this post.


Sports—and by extension E-Sports—is all about creating entertaining live TV. StarCraft is a community, and even for some of us its nostalgia, and personalities are inter-wound with it. Removing the iconic casting duo will irrevocably affect GSL viewership, just as English viewership of Brood War sky-rocked when Tasteosis began live casting the ASL a few years back.

80% of viewership jumping ship? Probably not; but, do not underestimate the magnitude of this—this is a big loss for StarCraft live commentary. On a personal note, Tasteless and Artosis when doing solo-casts, they just lack that special-something.

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