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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
Poll: Cloaked unit blue overlay needs rework? (Vote): Yes, it does not look good enough (Vote): No, it seems just fine EDIT: Screenshot with Dark Templar (click to enlarge): ![[image loading]](http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/816/816927/starcraft-ii-20070830110000203.jpg) Link to Banshee SC2 page: http://www.starcraft2.com/features/terran/banshee.xml | ||
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alphablend
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Manifesto7
Osaka27149 Posts
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New Zealand6138 Posts
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
EDIT: SC2 screens are xml-coded on the official site (I have no experinece in dealing with this), so I don't have the time to link to another source, however, I can link to this atm: http://eu.media.blizzard.com/starcraft2/flash/global/movieplayer_protoss_dtemplar.swf Will add more when I get home from the university. | ||
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Stegosaur
Netherlands1231 Posts
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Famehunter
Canada586 Posts
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A3iL3r0n
United States2196 Posts
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KwarK
United States42668 Posts
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lololol
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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Luhh
Sweden2974 Posts
For people complaining about the border, the border is there so you'd know what type of unit it is, and this is a good thing. Feedback owns no feedback in strategy games. Perhaps a tad too much, but whatever. Perhaps like some say it's because it's fading into view or something. *shrug* The only problem as I see it is that cloaked units may be a bit harder to spot in SC2, (higher resolution, less pixeling, more movement and animations in general etc) but that is not necessarily a bad thing. | ||
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Stegosaur
Netherlands1231 Posts
Look at the banshee page http://www.starcraft2.com/features/terran/banshee.xml The 'cloak' animation is pretty long, but after it goes into the 'cloaked blur' phase, it will switch to 'detected' state after about 10 sec, and it's transparent with some subtle blue outlining which IMO looks good. I think DT's will look the same and these shots are just unlucky 'heat of the moment' shots where they uncover/cloak animation was playing. | ||
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Tiptup
United States133 Posts
I made the following comparison screenshot a couple days ago for a thread I made on b.net suggestion forum. I toned down the heavy blue nature of the outline to a more neutral white (with only a slight blue tint remaining). Then I gave the green DTs more team coloring (so you can actually know they're on the green team!) and darkened/desaturated the purple in the terrain and made the color more blue (and lightened the orange lines). Basically, in the original version of the screenshot you have a mess that looks like everything is blue and purple. ![[image loading]](http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/4592/ss43hires2nr8.jpg) Blizzard needs to realize that team colors are what convey the most important information about a unit. They somehow forgot this in WarCraft 3, but the original StarCraft had team color down perfectly (whether intentional or accidental). If team color blends in with a bunch of bright, heavily-saturated colors (whether from the terrain or special effects), then it makes the game too visually noisy. Maybe it looks pretty (in some ways), but our eyes will be tracking crap all over the place. In the original StarCraft it was possible to instantly comprehend everything on a screen in almost every case and your eyes immediately were drawn to the most important things. (Also, why do the DT have cone heads?) | ||
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pzea
United States25 Posts
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
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Smoov
United States37 Posts
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
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Auspicious
United States175 Posts
On September 12 2007 02:49 Stegosaur wrote: I think the templars in that screenshot are in the process of fading out or in, after being uncovered by a detector, or after a detector lost sight of them. When that happens a small animation appears which displays some blue kind of current covering the unit, cloaking/uncloaking it. Look at the banshee page http://www.starcraft2.com/features/terran/banshee.xml The 'cloak' animation is pretty long, but after it goes into the 'cloaked blur' phase, it will switch to 'detected' state after about 10 sec, and it's transparent with some subtle blue outlining which IMO looks good. I think DT's will look the same and these shots are just unlucky 'heat of the moment' shots where they uncover/cloak animation was playing. I agree, the banshee cloaking looks pretty sweet  | ||
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Q(-_-Q)
United States348 Posts
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[X]Ken~D
377 Posts
Cloak units should be invisible, but not nearly invisible to their user. | ||
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Loverman
Romania266 Posts
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tec27
United States3698 Posts
On September 12 2007 09:50 Q(-_-Q) wrote: I think the cloak looked good for the banshee, but not for the dark templar (just looks kinda awkward) Agreed. The Banshee one has a nice balance of the light blue/actual color, but the DT just ends up looking like a bright-blue being running around hitting stuff. | ||
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Alizee-
United States845 Posts
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epidion
United States316 Posts
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Piste
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thoraxe
United States1449 Posts
Do you want SC1 with a nice coat of paint, or SC2? | ||
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
On September 13 2007 07:09 Piste wrote: You guys have not time to watch how pretty dt is anyways when you are playing ^^ Unit aesthetics are very important. It's a large part of what makes the game a spectator sport. | ||
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ImgGartok
United States216 Posts
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