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warnull
Profile Joined February 2016
United States280 Posts
February 01 2022 10:47 GMT
#121
On February 01 2022 19:02 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2022 20:59 Gina wrote:
They might not be using a nice-looking draw like bits of paper out of a hat, but just put the names and points into a program and get the groups. I know my friends running Go tournaments had software for that sort of thing. So there may not be anything to show on video.

That would be what? 30 seconds video? So why not show it? I mean there's literally no reason to not show it. You're not competing for views or to be interesting, you're doing it so you stop these stupid conspiracy theories.


IMO there's no such conspiracy theory. The only people that claim grievances with the seeding method are select individuals in this TL thread. ESL shouldn't waste production resources catering those people. I would rather see more player interviews.

deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12134 Posts
February 01 2022 11:01 GMT
#122
On February 01 2022 19:47 warnull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2022 19:02 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 31 2022 20:59 Gina wrote:
They might not be using a nice-looking draw like bits of paper out of a hat, but just put the names and points into a program and get the groups. I know my friends running Go tournaments had software for that sort of thing. So there may not be anything to show on video.

That would be what? 30 seconds video? So why not show it? I mean there's literally no reason to not show it. You're not competing for views or to be interesting, you're doing it so you stop these stupid conspiracy theories.


IMO there's no such conspiracy theory. The only people that claim grievances with the seeding method are select individuals in this TL thread. ESL shouldn't waste production resources catering those people. I would rather see more player interviews.


From my point of view they're not wasting resources. The admins most probably have webcams and/or are capable of recording their desktop. Nobody's asking to have a show.

At the same I, personally, would be fine to know how the process was handled. Is it pure chaos? Some rules were applied? I would love to know how they do this.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
February 01 2022 18:29 GMT
#123
All of Shopify ended up getting kinda smoked by the final rundown.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
t5Fab
Profile Joined July 2018
183 Posts
February 02 2022 07:22 GMT
#124
Following EPT points as players value, group D has:

- the best player of rank 1
- the best player of rank 2
- the best player of rank 3
- the best player of rank 4
- the second best player of rank 5

The unbalance seems very easy to spot to me...
MdarkKreller
Profile Joined February 2022
United States4 Posts
February 02 2022 10:23 GMT
#125
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honorablemacroterran
Profile Joined January 2022
188 Posts
February 02 2022 17:42 GMT
#126
On February 01 2022 16:32 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2022 07:17 bela.mervado wrote:
isn't this what you are looking for?

444.75

8951
Maru,T,3185
Zest,P,1976
Solar,Z,1369
Scarlett,Z,1315
Zoun,P,1106

8924
Rogue,Z,2937
Dark,Z,2397
Heromarine,T,1573
Neeb,P,1265
Showtime,P,752

8944
Trap,P,2897
Cure,T,2153
Reynor,Z,1914
Bunny,T,1240
Lambo,Z,740

8948
Serral,Z,2670
Clem,T,2536
Time,T,1333
Special,T,1237
Dream,T,1172


How is this better?

Group A: interesting fight for 2nd place between Zest, Solar and Zoun. Maru all but guaranteed through unless he somehow loses to Protoss.

Group B: Rogue vs Dark for the billionth time this year. Heromarine with an outside chance of causing an upset.

Group C: interesting.

Group D: Serral has an even easier group. Sure, you trade one angstgegner for another, but the rest still can't touch him. Clem has to TvT a bunch, so he should be comfortably second, but either Dream or Time can surprise.

Vs the actual groups:

Group A: interesting fight for 2nd place between Solar, Cure and Dream. Rogue all but guaranteed unless he decided to leave his A-game at home.

Group B: Serral and Dark should stomp this. Only question is who is #1.

Group C: interesting.

Group D: interesting fight for second place. If Maru has an off day it's even possible that he falls to Clem, Zoun and/or Reynor. Unlikely given current forms.


Seems like a lot of effort for no significant gain.


It's really not that much effort and the reason for doing it is that it's fairer.
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