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On July 17 2007 14:06 mikeymoo wrote: I'm gonna doubt the legitimacy of these. Blizzard wouldn't "release" so many units at once. Well they have to give magazines and other media info about new units ahead of time so they can publish them when blizzcon starts.
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On July 17 2007 14:18 FrozenArbiter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2007 14:10 Flaccid wrote: Whatever man. I think it's cool. But then again, I'm looking forward to a new game. I'm looking forward to a new game that is not retarded (sensor dome).
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On July 17 2007 14:16 anch wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2007 14:09 ArC_man wrote: Oh boy, I can't wait for the Terran Odin. Might as well add in some of the Greek/Roman gods as well. *Still waiting for Terran Gundams* What about Terran Lu Bu (dynasty warriors), the new Terran melee unit?
Or a Protoss Zhuge Liang, or a Zerg Sima Yi, huh, huh?
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I like the idea of burrowing supply depots and the idea of an air unit that can become a ground unit seems nifty. Some of the models though look terrible in my opinion. I would have never guessed that was a DT and the HT looks meh. The Ghost also looks awful. Granted, that is probably what the Ghost would look like if they enlarged the original sprite but they really don't look the way I would have envisioned them from their unit portrait. Needs more black/dark colors on their uniform. Seriously, what assassin would want to wear white tights?
The Thor looks incredibly badass to me, moreso since I've got a thing for big mechs, but I'm skeptical as to whether or not I would want it in SC. Superunits have been done in so many other games and failed. I don't like the idea of the mothership, I don't like the idea of an uber mech.
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alot of you guys have formed very strong opinions from low res screens of characters and models you havent seen in actual gameplay...
protesting that units/buildings are stupid or that they should be taken completely out before even knowing the role/mechanics of these units and buildings is equally baffling....
alot of you should calm down or drink a cup of coffee or somethin'....see how stuff pans out before ranting about how blizzard has ruined starcraft...
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I don't care about how they look - as I said, I'm yet to see a magazine screenshot from a 3D game that doesn't look horrible - but the text beneath made me really worried, and I hope it's just the guy who wrote it who's wrong.
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On July 17 2007 13:23 Luhh wrote: I think the sensor dome is a nerfed terran scan. Think about it:
1) can only see units, not buildings and tech. 2) will probably make a scan in a certain radius.
My guess anyway. Because the terran scan was kind of cheesy in the lucky way a terran could scout a build.
About the units:
Transformer: meh, ok sure. But I don't like the artwork on it.
Thor, huk? Is this the terrans mothermech?
Planetary fortress, sure. Terran was the most defensive race afterall. As long as it's not too powerful on defense.
[edit] [I hope ] what you said about the sensor dome vs scanner is true. Terran should be a little more in line with the other races on major things like checking tech, etc. I still think there should be clean ways to scout for all races though, that don't require a complete tech switch for one unit (corsair), that leaves you open to the tech you are checking for by the time you get it.
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SC2 has gone far C&C than I thought T_T
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Whenever Blizzard does an interview where they vaguely state that they'll preserve aspects of the old SC or focus on making the game competitive, everyone rejoices.
When they release information on the actual game however, everyone thinks the sky will fall on their heads.
It's kind of funny how bipolar everyone is when it comes to news about SC.
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On July 17 2007 13:57 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2007 13:44 paper wrote:On July 17 2007 13:35 {88}iNcontroL wrote: it just keeps getting worse QFT -_- WHY THE MODELS SO UGLY?! i wish they'd stick to the starcraft theme i know and love T_T I know, the old StarCraft units look absolutely AMAZING compared to the new ones.
what the fuck are you talking about o_oV Why is the 2008 Honda Civic so ugly!? I know, the old 1975 civic looks absolutely AMAZING compared to the new ones.
Does that make any fucking sense?
No.
There's no denying that some of the models are just so shitty in terms of appearance, e.g. tank, ghost, dt's weapon wtf? What's with these bulky models too? Did the developers recently watch Transformers and decide it would add to the "cool" factor? -__-
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StarFormers MechCraft TWO YAY!!! ME HAPPY!!!
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On July 17 2007 14:36 GTR-2-Go wrote: Or a Protoss Zhuge Liang, or a Zerg Sima Yi, huh, huh? They probably do exist. A godlike toss adviser = micro, and a new Zerg celebrate = macros.
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On July 17 2007 15:58 paper wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2007 13:57 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:On July 17 2007 13:44 paper wrote:On July 17 2007 13:35 {88}iNcontroL wrote: it just keeps getting worse QFT -_- WHY THE MODELS SO UGLY?! i wish they'd stick to the starcraft theme i know and love T_T I know, the old StarCraft units look absolutely AMAZING compared to the new ones. what the fuck are you talking about o_oV Why is the 2008 Honda Civic so ugly!?I know, the old 1975 civic looks absolutely AMAZING compared to the new ones.Does that make any fucking sense? No. There's no denying that some of the models are just so shitty in terms of appearance, e.g. tank, ghost, dt's weapon wtf? What's with these bulky models too? Did the developers recently watch Transformers and decide it would add to the "cool" factor? -__-
Here is what my post was mainly referring to, as you would have known if you had looked at who I was quoting:
"WHY THE MODELS SO UGLY?! i wish they'd stick to the starcraft theme i know and love T_T"
Your example of the Honda Civic illustrates my point exactly. If I were to say "The 1975 Civic is a much better car than the 2008 Civic" you would probably laugh in my face. Same thing with the SC units.
All I'm trying to say is that the new units look a hell of a lot better to me than the old ones. I don't expect blizzard to shit out perfect 3D models of units right away, I have faith that they will make the units looks great in the end. It's especially annoying that the same people who are big supporters of "we don't care about the graphics as much as the gameplay" are the same ones screaming "ZOMG THE NEW UNITS ARE UGLY!" Give me a break.
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On July 17 2007 14:43 Phyre wrote: I would have never guessed that was a DT and the HT looks meh. The Ghost also looks awful. Granted, that is probably what the Ghost would look like if they enlarged the original sprite but they really don't look the way I would have envisioned them from their unit portrait. Needs more black/dark colors on their uniform. Seriously, what assassin would want to wear white tights?
Agreed.. thats a dark? uhh... just plain ugly. And I do belive this model is in the recent screenshots at IGN so even if this article is fake.. urgh. Ive always thought the HT looked wierd. I think the model itself is high quality and finley detailed. But the design is too over the top or something i dunno.. too gaudy..
But really i just wanted to post this badass pic of a ghost
Dont know why the pic isnt showing.. Terran Ghost. SC Manual
Now thats a rugged looking covert ops unit. Give us the gritty sci-fi man!
EDIT: I just HAD to link Metzens gallery too! such cool art..
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This seems so uninspirational and un-blizzard like, thor straight rip from dreadnaughts from dow and the sensor dome from tiberian sun. Didn't care much for the air unit either, 1 "transformer" unit (the tank) is enough for my taste. Have to say that looks fake as hell. We've only seen 1 new unit in screens so far, which they haven't explained. And new they suddenly come with 2 totally new never seen before units ?
Don't really wan't to sound too pessimistic but I'm still kinda waiting for a terran unit that makes me think "THAT'S the sc I love". Like immortals / stalkers were to the toss.
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On July 17 2007 16:13 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2007 15:58 paper wrote:On July 17 2007 13:57 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:On July 17 2007 13:44 paper wrote:On July 17 2007 13:35 {88}iNcontroL wrote: it just keeps getting worse QFT -_- WHY THE MODELS SO UGLY?! i wish they'd stick to the starcraft theme i know and love T_T I know, the old StarCraft units look absolutely AMAZING compared to the new ones. what the fuck are you talking about o_oV Why is the 2008 Honda Civic so ugly!?I know, the old 1975 civic looks absolutely AMAZING compared to the new ones.Does that make any fucking sense? No. There's no denying that some of the models are just so shitty in terms of appearance, e.g. tank, ghost, dt's weapon wtf? What's with these bulky models too? Did the developers recently watch Transformers and decide it would add to the "cool" factor? -__- Here is what my post was mainly referring to, as you would have known if you had looked at who I was quoting: "WHY THE MODELS SO UGLY?! i wish they'd stick to the starcraft theme i know and love T_T" Your example of the Honda Civic illustrates my point exactly. If I were to say "The 1975 Civic is a much better car than the 2008 Civic" you would probably laugh in my face. Same thing with the SC units. All I'm trying to say is that the new units look a hell of a lot better to me than the old ones. I don't expect blizzard to shit out perfect 3D models of units right away, I have faith that they will make the units looks great in the end. It's especially annoying that the same people who are big supporters of "we don't care about the graphics as much as the gameplay" are the same ones screaming "ZOMG THE NEW UNITS ARE UGLY!" Give me a break.
You were quoting me? Uhh? I didn't compare SC sprites to SC2 models, illiterate ass. The models are inherently ugly. I could have been clearer, but "WHY THE MODELS SO UGLY?!" and "i wish they'd stick to the starcraft theme i know and love T_T" were two ideas, which is obvious by one of the paragraphs up there.
And SC's sprites are classic. I'd rather have those than some of these shitty new models. Where do you derive your faith? WC3? rofl.
edit: theme as in no huge, superesque units, btw.
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Why do the Soul Hunter and DT look like Grunts and Elites from Halo, respectively?
Anyway, pre-alpha guys, pre-alpha.
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On July 17 2007 14:58 Blacklizard wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2007 13:23 Luhh wrote: I think the sensor dome is a nerfed terran scan. Think about it:
1) can only see units, not buildings and tech. 2) will probably make a scan in a certain radius.
My guess anyway. Because the terran scan was kind of cheesy in the lucky way a terran could scout a build.
About the units:
Transformer: meh, ok sure. But I don't like the artwork on it.
Thor, huk? Is this the terrans mothermech?
Planetary fortress, sure. Terran was the most defensive race afterall. As long as it's not too powerful on defense. [edit] [I hope ] what you said about the sensor dome vs scanner is true. Terran should be a little more in line with the other races on major things like checking tech, etc. I still think there should be clean ways to scout for all races though, that don't require a complete tech switch for one unit (corsair), that leaves you open to the tech you are checking for by the time you get it. I hope that the terran scan will stay 100% the same and the sensor dome is a sick, sick joke --;
The text makes it sound like it will display units moving on the minimap (they use the word for map, which could be used for both minimap or the actual map being played), which.. sounds horrible?
And if it works like scan, uh, so you can have 10 of these, group them together and with the new smart cast system, have infinite scans - . .- ?
What's wrong with the comsat add-on, seriously?
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On July 17 2007 13:09 sushiman wrote:I do hope that's not the new design of the dark templar, it looks like some creep from WC3 combined with a wow raidset. ;P Sensor dome would be extremely imba if its effect was permanent, so hopefully not. And first thing that came into my mind when I saw that Thor thingy was 'Krogoth' (anyone that's played TA will know what I mean  ). If you played TA you shouldn't be offensive to Sensor dome at all. There was exactly same building. Sensor dome makes Terran more distinct from other two. It's as imba as protoss ability to teleport their units. And if sensor dome is total replacement to comsat, then Terran rather suffers that gains.
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the ghos looks like a fucking power ranger but well... im kinda looking forward this Thor thing ^^!
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