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ESL and DreamHack have announced the penultimate tournament of the 2020-2021 ESL Pro Tour: DreamHack Masters: Last Chance. Held during January 12-17, the tournament will be players' last chance to earn EPT points and qualify for the Masters Championship at IEM Katowice 2021.
Official site & info:
We are almost done with our main portion of 2020 for the ESL Pro Tour, but there are points yet to be decided for our EPT Championship: IEM Katowice event. It’s been a long year full of highs and lows for our competitors and there’s only two months left before we lock in all points earned and begin preparing to crown a champion for the 2020-21 season.
Taking place January 12-17, we will have 16 players compete for $57,000 and their final ESL Pro Tour points of the season, which will set the 36 players who will be joining us in Katowice in February. Currently Reynor leads the charts with 2372 points but it’s not fully settled yet - Serral is still on his tail and there’s still events held and points to be earned between now and mid January when we lock them in.
It’s time for DreamHack SC2 Masters: Last Chance 2021.
Qualifiers: Sign up at ESLPlay
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So, uhhh, what happens to the 36th IEM Katowice spot that was originally planned to be awarded through this tournament
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So there are going to be as many spots for EU as for the Season finals, there is one extra spot for NA + Latam and almost double the spots for KR + CH + TW + OCE ?? E.: nevermind, I m dumb. It s just one spot from Asia shifted to NA. Also I just double checked, these are Server Qualifiers, without region lock, so doesn t realy matter anyways, nice.
Still, having to play two full qualifiers and still get 0$, if you lose the qualifing match seems quite off. Giving at least some money to Place 17 - 32 would be nice.
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What, was this tournament intended? Did not thought another one would occure before Katowice! Thats great news! Really excited!
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On November 12 2020 23:41 Haku wrote: What, was this tournament intended? Did not thought another one would occure before Katowice! Thats great news! Really excited!
Yah, some kind of major event before IEM was announced from the start (personally I presumed it was going to be at IEM Beijing originally), but due to the pandemic it seems like it's taking place in the form of another Season Finals-like touranment.
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This should have been region based or something. Feels kinda uninteresting for the overall ‘race to katowice’. Would be surprised if it changed anything, just feels like an extra season finals. Not against it, just feel like it could have been more interesting / something different
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On November 12 2020 23:14 Waxangel wrote:So, uhhh, what happens to the 36th IEM Katowice spot that was originally planned to be awarded through this tournament Seems realy wired:
As the points from different regions are not realy compareable. Those players would as of now be: Dark (KR Rank 11): 1115 pts Scarlett (NA Rank 3): 730pts Nice (TW Rank 1): 702 pts uThermal (EU Rank 6): 657 pts Kelazhur (LA Rank 2): 423 pts Probe (Oce Rank 1): 355 pts Cyan (Ch Rank 2): 160 pts
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On November 13 2020 00:06 dbRic1203 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2020 23:14 Waxangel wrote:So, uhhh, what happens to the 36th IEM Katowice spot that was originally planned to be awarded through this tournament Seems realy wired: https://twitter.com/RealHeyoka/status/1326900739948601344As the points from different regions are not realy compareable. Those players would as of now be: Dark (KR Rank 11): 1115 pts Scarlett (NA Rank 3): 730pts Nice (TW Rank 1): 702 pts uThermal (EU Rank 6): 657 pts Kelazhur (LA Rank 2): 423 pts Probe (Oce Rank 1): 355 pts Cyan (Ch Rank 2): 160 pts
Yah, it's 99.9999% Korea getting another spot unless someone from another region goes on an INSANE run at Last Chance, TSL6, and ASUS ROG online.
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On November 13 2020 00:12 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2020 00:06 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 12 2020 23:14 Waxangel wrote:So, uhhh, what happens to the 36th IEM Katowice spot that was originally planned to be awarded through this tournament Seems realy wired: https://twitter.com/RealHeyoka/status/1326900739948601344As the points from different regions are not realy compareable. Those players would as of now be: Dark (KR Rank 11): 1115 pts Scarlett (NA Rank 3): 730pts Nice (TW Rank 1): 702 pts uThermal (EU Rank 6): 657 pts Kelazhur (LA Rank 2): 423 pts Probe (Oce Rank 1): 355 pts Cyan (Ch Rank 2): 160 pts Yah, it's 99.9999% Korea getting another spot unless Scarlett or Nice win Last Chace and then win like 10+ ESL Open Cups :0 Well Serral is currently 10th in Kr, he could probably get enough global points to qualify over the KR points :D So that spot could technically go to EU as well. No chance for Kelazhur, Probe or Cyan though
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On November 13 2020 00:12 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2020 00:06 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 12 2020 23:14 Waxangel wrote:So, uhhh, what happens to the 36th IEM Katowice spot that was originally planned to be awarded through this tournament Seems realy wired: https://twitter.com/RealHeyoka/status/1326900739948601344As the points from different regions are not realy compareable. Those players would as of now be: Dark (KR Rank 11): 1115 pts Scarlett (NA Rank 3): 730pts Nice (TW Rank 1): 702 pts uThermal (EU Rank 6): 657 pts Kelazhur (LA Rank 2): 423 pts Probe (Oce Rank 1): 355 pts Cyan (Ch Rank 2): 160 pts Yah, it's 99.9999% Korea getting another spot unless someone from another region goes on an INSANE run at Last Chance, TSL6, and ASUS ROG online.
I agree, the format of the tournament doesn't seem the right one considering it has to be a Last Chance qualifier.
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another 16 man event yay :c
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Hm, guess this is a compromise with Covid sticking around as long as it has.
Always good to have more SC2 action, although it doesn’t really feel the ‘last chance’ part will be given a huge amount of space to thrive.
A winner takes all tourney featuring only those not already qualified for that direct spot would be of a lower quality in games sure, but I think would have a lot more hype.
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On November 13 2020 01:12 WombaT wrote: Hm, guess this is a compromise with Covid sticking around as long as it has.
Always good to have more SC2 action, although it doesn’t really feel the ‘last chance’ part will be given a huge amount of space to thrive.
A winner takes all tourney featuring only those not already qualified for that direct spot would be of a lower quality in games sure, but I think would have a lot more hype.
When I heard the title (Last Chance), i assumed it was gonna be this, and that would've been awesome.
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Yeah seems like this isn't going to be so much of a last chance to make Katowice as a "one more chance for the people already qualified for Katowice to get more money"
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On November 13 2020 01:53 Elentos wrote: Yeah seems like this isn't going to be so much of a last chance to make Katowice as a "one more chance for the people already qualified for Katowice to get more money"
one more chance for ppl to complain about lag
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On November 13 2020 02:01 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2020 01:53 Elentos wrote: Yeah seems like this isn't going to be so much of a last chance to make Katowice as a "one more chance for the people already qualified for Katowice to get more money" one more chance for ppl to complain about lag The pessimist in me thinks it won’t be the very last of that haha
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Well the Fall-Winter Starcraft schedule is packed for once. The event's format does seem rather uninspired though and doesn't really make for much of a "last chance".
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On November 13 2020 02:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Well the Fall-Winter Starcraft schedule is packed for once. The event's format does seem rather uninspired though and doesn't really make for much of a "last chance".
Yeah, this is the great thing about ending the SC2 year in March. And it makes a lot of sense to broadcast tournaments in the cold winter months when people are indoors anyway.
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The name reminds me of wrestling pay per views. Way over dramatic and not super accurate to what it actually is. I was excited about the idea of one or two last qualifying spots on the line. Oh well I'll still watch and have fun
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On November 13 2020 00:12 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2020 00:06 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 12 2020 23:14 Waxangel wrote:So, uhhh, what happens to the 36th IEM Katowice spot that was originally planned to be awarded through this tournament Seems realy wired: https://twitter.com/RealHeyoka/status/1326900739948601344As the points from different regions are not realy compareable. Those players would as of now be: Dark (KR Rank 11): 1115 pts Scarlett (NA Rank 3): 730pts Nice (TW Rank 1): 702 pts uThermal (EU Rank 6): 657 pts Kelazhur (LA Rank 2): 423 pts Probe (Oce Rank 1): 355 pts Cyan (Ch Rank 2): 160 pts Yah, it's 99.9999% Korea getting another spot unless someone from another region goes on an INSANE run at Last Chance, TSL6, and ASUS ROG online.
oh wait, Rogue has the direct seed from IEM Katowice, so KR's 10th place cutoff player is actually DongRaeGu at 915 points I think. Closer, but still hard for another region to take the spot.
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I love all the starcraft that's happening
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On November 13 2020 03:32 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2020 00:12 Waxangel wrote:On November 13 2020 00:06 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 12 2020 23:14 Waxangel wrote:So, uhhh, what happens to the 36th IEM Katowice spot that was originally planned to be awarded through this tournament Seems realy wired: https://twitter.com/RealHeyoka/status/1326900739948601344As the points from different regions are not realy compareable. Those players would as of now be: Dark (KR Rank 11): 1115 pts Scarlett (NA Rank 3): 730pts Nice (TW Rank 1): 702 pts uThermal (EU Rank 6): 657 pts Kelazhur (LA Rank 2): 423 pts Probe (Oce Rank 1): 355 pts Cyan (Ch Rank 2): 160 pts Yah, it's 99.9999% Korea getting another spot unless someone from another region goes on an INSANE run at Last Chance, TSL6, and ASUS ROG online. oh wait, Rogue has the direct seed from IEM Katowice, so KR's 10th place cutoff player is actually DongRaeGu at 915 points I think. Closer, but still hard for another region to take the spot.
Not to mention Stats and Zest may be forced to enlist.
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On November 13 2020 03:42 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2020 03:32 Waxangel wrote:On November 13 2020 00:12 Waxangel wrote:On November 13 2020 00:06 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 12 2020 23:14 Waxangel wrote:So, uhhh, what happens to the 36th IEM Katowice spot that was originally planned to be awarded through this tournament Seems realy wired: https://twitter.com/RealHeyoka/status/1326900739948601344As the points from different regions are not realy compareable. Those players would as of now be: Dark (KR Rank 11): 1115 pts Scarlett (NA Rank 3): 730pts Nice (TW Rank 1): 702 pts uThermal (EU Rank 6): 657 pts Kelazhur (LA Rank 2): 423 pts Probe (Oce Rank 1): 355 pts Cyan (Ch Rank 2): 160 pts Yah, it's 99.9999% Korea getting another spot unless someone from another region goes on an INSANE run at Last Chance, TSL6, and ASUS ROG online. oh wait, Rogue has the direct seed from IEM Katowice, so KR's 10th place cutoff player is actually DongRaeGu at 915 points I think. Closer, but still hard for another region to take the spot. Not to mention Stats and Zest may be forced to enlist.
okay, if you account for all that, you arrive at Armani as the winning player at 875 points.... which would get TaeJa to IEM
Still, if Scarlett can make up a 145 point gap (difficult, but DOABLE), she can get Future to IEM
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On November 13 2020 03:32 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2020 00:12 Waxangel wrote:On November 13 2020 00:06 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 12 2020 23:14 Waxangel wrote:So, uhhh, what happens to the 36th IEM Katowice spot that was originally planned to be awarded through this tournament Seems realy wired: https://twitter.com/RealHeyoka/status/1326900739948601344As the points from different regions are not realy compareable. Those players would as of now be: Dark (KR Rank 11): 1115 pts Scarlett (NA Rank 3): 730pts Nice (TW Rank 1): 702 pts uThermal (EU Rank 6): 657 pts Kelazhur (LA Rank 2): 423 pts Probe (Oce Rank 1): 355 pts Cyan (Ch Rank 2): 160 pts Yah, it's 99.9999% Korea getting another spot unless someone from another region goes on an INSANE run at Last Chance, TSL6, and ASUS ROG online. oh wait, Rogue has the direct seed from IEM Katowice, so KR's 10th place cutoff player is actually DongRaeGu at 915 points I think. Closer, but still hard for another region to take the spot.
Does Solar have a better spot than DRG ? he's just after Dark on liquipedia. Poor Solar, no one remember him... Bring back the beta of lotv!
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On November 13 2020 03:47 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2020 03:42 Xain0n wrote:On November 13 2020 03:32 Waxangel wrote:On November 13 2020 00:12 Waxangel wrote:On November 13 2020 00:06 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 12 2020 23:14 Waxangel wrote:So, uhhh, what happens to the 36th IEM Katowice spot that was originally planned to be awarded through this tournament Seems realy wired: https://twitter.com/RealHeyoka/status/1326900739948601344As the points from different regions are not realy compareable. Those players would as of now be: Dark (KR Rank 11): 1115 pts Scarlett (NA Rank 3): 730pts Nice (TW Rank 1): 702 pts uThermal (EU Rank 6): 657 pts Kelazhur (LA Rank 2): 423 pts Probe (Oce Rank 1): 355 pts Cyan (Ch Rank 2): 160 pts Yah, it's 99.9999% Korea getting another spot unless someone from another region goes on an INSANE run at Last Chance, TSL6, and ASUS ROG online. oh wait, Rogue has the direct seed from IEM Katowice, so KR's 10th place cutoff player is actually DongRaeGu at 915 points I think. Closer, but still hard for another region to take the spot. Not to mention Stats and Zest may be forced to enlist. okay, if you account for all that, you arrive at Armani as the winning player at 875 points.... which would get TaeJa to IEM Still, if Scarlett can make up a 145 point gap (difficult, but DOABLE), she can get Future to IEM There could also be a world, where Scarletts, Specials and Astreas GSL Points are added up towards their regional points, where Scarlett allready would be the player with most points. That would probably an even worse option, than what we re thinking about here right now, but someone brought that up to me, that that would as well be possible..
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On November 13 2020 03:53 dbRic1203 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2020 03:47 Waxangel wrote:On November 13 2020 03:42 Xain0n wrote:On November 13 2020 03:32 Waxangel wrote:On November 13 2020 00:12 Waxangel wrote:On November 13 2020 00:06 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 12 2020 23:14 Waxangel wrote:So, uhhh, what happens to the 36th IEM Katowice spot that was originally planned to be awarded through this tournament Seems realy wired: https://twitter.com/RealHeyoka/status/1326900739948601344As the points from different regions are not realy compareable. Those players would as of now be: Dark (KR Rank 11): 1115 pts Scarlett (NA Rank 3): 730pts Nice (TW Rank 1): 702 pts uThermal (EU Rank 6): 657 pts Kelazhur (LA Rank 2): 423 pts Probe (Oce Rank 1): 355 pts Cyan (Ch Rank 2): 160 pts Yah, it's 99.9999% Korea getting another spot unless someone from another region goes on an INSANE run at Last Chance, TSL6, and ASUS ROG online. oh wait, Rogue has the direct seed from IEM Katowice, so KR's 10th place cutoff player is actually DongRaeGu at 915 points I think. Closer, but still hard for another region to take the spot. Not to mention Stats and Zest may be forced to enlist. okay, if you account for all that, you arrive at Armani as the winning player at 875 points.... which would get TaeJa to IEM Still, if Scarlett can make up a 145 point gap (difficult, but DOABLE), she can get Future to IEM There could also be a world, where Scarletts, Specials and Astreas GSL Points are added up towards their regional points, where Scarlett allready would be the player with most points. That would probably an even worse option, than what we re thinking about here right now, but someone brought that up to me, that that would as well be possible..
Anyway, this all boils down to figuring out if it's TaeJa or Future who chances into a last ticket?
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On November 13 2020 04:04 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2020 03:53 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 13 2020 03:47 Waxangel wrote:On November 13 2020 03:42 Xain0n wrote:On November 13 2020 03:32 Waxangel wrote:On November 13 2020 00:12 Waxangel wrote:On November 13 2020 00:06 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 12 2020 23:14 Waxangel wrote:So, uhhh, what happens to the 36th IEM Katowice spot that was originally planned to be awarded through this tournament Seems realy wired: https://twitter.com/RealHeyoka/status/1326900739948601344As the points from different regions are not realy compareable. Those players would as of now be: Dark (KR Rank 11): 1115 pts Scarlett (NA Rank 3): 730pts Nice (TW Rank 1): 702 pts uThermal (EU Rank 6): 657 pts Kelazhur (LA Rank 2): 423 pts Probe (Oce Rank 1): 355 pts Cyan (Ch Rank 2): 160 pts Yah, it's 99.9999% Korea getting another spot unless someone from another region goes on an INSANE run at Last Chance, TSL6, and ASUS ROG online. oh wait, Rogue has the direct seed from IEM Katowice, so KR's 10th place cutoff player is actually DongRaeGu at 915 points I think. Closer, but still hard for another region to take the spot. Not to mention Stats and Zest may be forced to enlist. okay, if you account for all that, you arrive at Armani as the winning player at 875 points.... which would get TaeJa to IEM Still, if Scarlett can make up a 145 point gap (difficult, but DOABLE), she can get Future to IEM There could also be a world, where Scarletts, Specials and Astreas GSL Points are added up towards their regional points, where Scarlett allready would be the player with most points. That would probably an even worse option, than what we re thinking about here right now, but someone brought that up to me, that that would as well be possible.. Anyway, this all boils down to figuring out if it's TaeJa or Future who chances into a last ticket? How should Teaja get the spot? He s place 32 in the Korean standing, no? If we asume Special, Gabe and Showtime qualify for Ro24 through their home regions, the next player in the Korean standings is Bunny. E.: Oh you were asuming, that Stats and Zest can t compete, because of military.
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On November 13 2020 04:04 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2020 03:53 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 13 2020 03:47 Waxangel wrote:On November 13 2020 03:42 Xain0n wrote:On November 13 2020 03:32 Waxangel wrote:On November 13 2020 00:12 Waxangel wrote:On November 13 2020 00:06 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 12 2020 23:14 Waxangel wrote:So, uhhh, what happens to the 36th IEM Katowice spot that was originally planned to be awarded through this tournament Seems realy wired: https://twitter.com/RealHeyoka/status/1326900739948601344As the points from different regions are not realy compareable. Those players would as of now be: Dark (KR Rank 11): 1115 pts Scarlett (NA Rank 3): 730pts Nice (TW Rank 1): 702 pts uThermal (EU Rank 6): 657 pts Kelazhur (LA Rank 2): 423 pts Probe (Oce Rank 1): 355 pts Cyan (Ch Rank 2): 160 pts Yah, it's 99.9999% Korea getting another spot unless someone from another region goes on an INSANE run at Last Chance, TSL6, and ASUS ROG online. oh wait, Rogue has the direct seed from IEM Katowice, so KR's 10th place cutoff player is actually DongRaeGu at 915 points I think. Closer, but still hard for another region to take the spot. Not to mention Stats and Zest may be forced to enlist. okay, if you account for all that, you arrive at Armani as the winning player at 875 points.... which would get TaeJa to IEM Still, if Scarlett can make up a 145 point gap (difficult, but DOABLE), she can get Future to IEM There could also be a world, where Scarletts, Specials and Astreas GSL Points are added up towards their regional points, where Scarlett allready would be the player with most points. That would probably an even worse option, than what we re thinking about here right now, but someone brought that up to me, that that would as well be possible.. Anyway, this all boils down to figuring out if it's TaeJa or Future who chances into a last ticket?
TaeJa has only 280 points and he hasn't even been playing recently. Creator, Byun or even Lambo could qualify through korean standings at this point!
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On November 13 2020 04:33 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2020 04:04 Waxangel wrote:On November 13 2020 03:53 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 13 2020 03:47 Waxangel wrote:On November 13 2020 03:42 Xain0n wrote:On November 13 2020 03:32 Waxangel wrote:On November 13 2020 00:12 Waxangel wrote:On November 13 2020 00:06 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 12 2020 23:14 Waxangel wrote:So, uhhh, what happens to the 36th IEM Katowice spot that was originally planned to be awarded through this tournament Seems realy wired: https://twitter.com/RealHeyoka/status/1326900739948601344As the points from different regions are not realy compareable. Those players would as of now be: Dark (KR Rank 11): 1115 pts Scarlett (NA Rank 3): 730pts Nice (TW Rank 1): 702 pts uThermal (EU Rank 6): 657 pts Kelazhur (LA Rank 2): 423 pts Probe (Oce Rank 1): 355 pts Cyan (Ch Rank 2): 160 pts Yah, it's 99.9999% Korea getting another spot unless someone from another region goes on an INSANE run at Last Chance, TSL6, and ASUS ROG online. oh wait, Rogue has the direct seed from IEM Katowice, so KR's 10th place cutoff player is actually DongRaeGu at 915 points I think. Closer, but still hard for another region to take the spot. Not to mention Stats and Zest may be forced to enlist. okay, if you account for all that, you arrive at Armani as the winning player at 875 points.... which would get TaeJa to IEM Still, if Scarlett can make up a 145 point gap (difficult, but DOABLE), she can get Future to IEM There could also be a world, where Scarletts, Specials and Astreas GSL Points are added up towards their regional points, where Scarlett allready would be the player with most points. That would probably an even worse option, than what we re thinking about here right now, but someone brought that up to me, that that would as well be possible.. Anyway, this all boils down to figuring out if it's TaeJa or Future who chances into a last ticket? TaeJa has only 280 points and he hasn't even been playing recently. Creator, Byun or even Lambo could qualify through korean standings at this point! They have 227, 185 and 165 Points respectivly. So they would need between 54 to 115 points to surpass him. Not impossible, but not easy either. Still I agree with you, all 3 would be more deserving than Teaja, who hasn t done anything apart from qualifing for Code S this year.
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For this to be the last chance tourney, already qualified players should not be playing surely. To make any sense it ought to be the players scrambling to get in duking it out tooth and nail for the last few spots.
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