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Code S RO16 Preview: TY, SpeCial, Scarlett, DRG

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July 14th, 2020 12:39 GMT

2020 GSL Code S Season 2 - Round of 16

by Wax

Code S Season 2 continues on with the round-of-16 group stage, where the four seeded players from Season 1 finally enter the fray. The first one up is none other than #1 overall seed and reigning Code S champion TY, who has picked himself two non-Koreans and a military returnee as his first opponents.

More info: GSL Code S Season 2 on Liquipedia

Group A Preview: TY, SpeCial, Scarlett, DongRaeGu

Start time: Tuesday, Jul 14 10:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)

Following in Code S tradition, TY used the overwhelming drafting power of the #1 seed to assemble a trio of the softest group-mates possible: Scarlett, SpeCial, and DongRaeGu (the RO16 group selection/draft mechanics are pretty complicated, so I recommend just watching the full group selections if you want to know the details). What's odd, however, is that I had to stop and wonder if TY actually needed this advantage to advance.

If you only tune into major tournament matches, your last memory of TY is probably his one-sided, 4-0 sweep over Cure in the last Code S finals. Since then, that kind of dominance has been almost entirely absent from TY's games. TY has been ambling along with a terrible post-championship hangover, putting up only a 7-5 match record with a meager 22-15 (59.46% win-rate) map score. Here's the list of players he's lost to in that period: ShowTimE, Armani, Bly, Solar, and soO. That's more than enough to warrant some concern.

Still, I'm struggling to determine how much these results really matter. After all, I've often said that one can't read too deeply into online tournament performances—it's common to see top players scale their efforts up and down depending on the importance of the competition. However, TY wasn't just sandbagging in small weekly tournaments. He suffered an embarrassing group stage elimination from the Douyu Cup—one of the biggest online competitions this year with around $21,000 in prize money. It's not a tournament you expect players to take lightly.

On the other hand, the content of TY's Douyu Cup games made me think he truly was just playing casually, saving his best strategies and performances for GSL Code S. A TvZ Ghost-Hellion rush, a TvT BC rush, a handful of different proxy-Barracks variations—if TY is the man of one-hundred builds, it certainly felt like he was reaching for the ones at the bottom of the barrel. It was the kind of performance that would have had the Korean community saying he was "playing with YouTube in mind," using entertaining strategies which could form the basis of his next video. Who knows? Maybe TY really does have the luxury of not having to go all-out in one of the biggest online events of the year.

After considering all the factors, I've come to a boring and safe conclusion. Until proven otherwise, the accomplished, establish, star player deserves the benefit of the doubt. No matter TY's struggles in online competition, I still believe he'll be playing on an entirely different level in Code S.

Alright, let's look at the race for second place. One of the bizarre side-effects of letting the #1 seed draft the weakest three RO16 players into their group is that one of them gets to sneak into the quarterfinals. While this sucks for the viewers, it's the reason why the RO16 underdogs actually like getting picked into the #1 seed's group—they'd barely have a chance of advancing to the quarterfinals otherwise. Thus, during the group selections, Scarlett, SpeCial, and DRG seemed pretty content with joining TY in Group A, even if it meant accepting that ignominious label of being the worst players of the RO16. Sure, it probably hurt their pride in the moment, but the extra $2000 in prize money from advancing to the quarterfinals would help assuage that pain.

Scarlett surely can't quibble with TY perceiving her as the easiest opponent among the RO16 players. She's lucky to be in the RO16 at all, as she was nearly eliminated in the RO24 by amateur player Prince and his creative cheeses. Fortunately for Scarlett, Prince's hands couldn't quite keep up with his brains, and she was able to pull out a comeback victory. More recently, in DreamHack Masters North America, she came in fourth place behind Neeb, Astrea, and Future—not a great sign when you consider NA isn't exactly considered a fiercely competitive region.

Up until a few weeks ago, I'd have said Scarlett would have been happy due to the no-Protoss nature of this group, as she has possibly the worst Glaive-Adept defense of all the GSL Zergs. Unfortunately, recent games suggest that ZvT is now her most pressing problem. She's on a three-match ZvT losing streak in July, with losses to Future, TY, and uThermal. While some of those losses were due to weird cheeses (the aforementioned Ghost rush from TY), Scarlett seems to generally struggle in the macro-duel of Muta-Ling-Bane versus the endless Terran parade push. It doesn't seem like it's just her problem—looking at the RO16 selections as a whole, it was clear that Korean Terrans felt really good about the state of the TvZ match-up right now (that might change when they face Serral and Reynor). Not only did the four Terran top seeds all pick Zerg opponents, but #4 seed INnoVation actually took mother-fungalling Dark with players like Bunny and PartinG still on the board.

As is often the case with Scarlett in these later rounds, her advancement seems to hinge on preparing, hiding, and executing deadly all-ins. Even though her cheesy reputation precedes her, she always seems to have enough creativity to get at least one series win over a supposedly stronger opponent. A cheesy win against either SpeCial or TY, combined with a regular ZvZ win against DongRaeGu might be enough to see Scarlett through to the RO16. (By the way, I just saw Bly proxy-hatch his way to a victory against TY. That should remind you that in Starcraft, nothing is truly impossible.)

While I'm not optimistic about Scarlett's form, I feel like her foreigner compatriot SpeCial has a great chance to become the first non-Korean to reach the Code S playoffs since Neeb in 2018. He comes in with the momentum from winning Dreamhack Masters Latin America, which marked his seventh straight title win in regional LATAM competitions. While it wasn't a Code S-tier competition, he won it in especially dominating fashion by not dropping a single map (14-0 total record).

SpeCial had a solid outing in the RO24 of Code S, where he upset soO with two 2-0 wins to advance in second place from his group. Those series were a great demonstration of why he's at his best in the Code S format. Not only did he prepare different kinds of early-game harassment to keep soO off guard, but he played a great big-picture mind game as well. After using turtle mech to defeat soO in two games, SpeCial completely broke soO's ankles with the fake-out move of transitioning his mech opener into standard bio. Even if SpeCial doesn't have the lightning quick hands of the best GSL Terrans, he certainly works hard to make up for it with his intelligence.

To be fair, I have to consider the possibility that I'm overrating SpeCial, due to the fact that soO was basically a perfect sandbag for him to beat up on: a macro oriented player who tries to play predictable and safe against a perceived weaker opponent. If SpeCial ends up being the one who has to face unorthodox plays from his opponents, things could get very unpredictable. Given Scarlett's recent ZvT games, I don't think that she's going to sit back and try to play defensive Muta-Ling-Bane against SpeCial. Whether it's with Nydus tactics or proxy-hatches, I get the feeling Scarlett is going to try to take SpeCial outside of his comfort zone. As for DongRaeGu....

DongRaeGu encapsulates one of the dilemmas players returning from military service face. Since DRG's return, he's preferred to play a standard macro style, somewhat similar to the one he played during his prime during WoL. While DRG's macro play has been respectable, it definitely felt like he had hit his ceiling in the Code S RO24.

Now, one might wonder why these old veterans stubbornly try to keep pace in standard games with pros who have basically been practicing non-stop for years (looking at you, TaeJa). Maybe that's just the nature of the world, where it's hard for old dogs to learn new tricks. Or maybe it's because changing styles would be conceding defeat, admitting that there is no road to full recovery for anyone returning from 20 months of military service. Damn, I depressed myself just typing that.

Whatever the reason, DongRaeGu was notable to me this season because he made a very conscious decision to finally adapt. He played against his reputation and went for two incisive speedling all-ins against Dear, for which he was rewarded with RO16 advancement. I think that approach is the right one for a player of DRG's caliber at the moment, as he's a solid macro player but can't really force that style in every single game. He needs to resist the temptation of looking at SpeCial as one of the weaker opponents and going for solely macro games. That's something 2012 DRG could have done—2020 DRG has to be more cunning than that.

Predictions: TY will easily advance in first place. If SpeCial and Scarlett meet, they will play a terrible, terrible mech vs Zerg turtle game on Ice and Chrome. If Scarlett and DRG meet, we'll see at least one 12-pool Spine Crawler rush. The winning lottery numbers will be 29 06 25 32 11.

TY > Scarlett
SpeCial > DRG
TY > SpeCial
Scarlett > DRG
SpeCial > Scarlett

TY and SpeCial advance.



Credits and acknowledgements

Writer: Wax
Images: AfreecaTV
Statistics: Aligulac.com and Liquipedia

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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
July 14 2020 12:57 GMT
#2
Considering how Scarlett looked both at Doyou and DH Masters NA, I think she ll finish in last place here.
A shame for DRG, to be in a non P group, his Adept defense is talked up a lot, would be nice to see it in action
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Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4958 Posts
July 14 2020 13:00 GMT
#3
Nice Preview. I can see DRG sneaking in and defeating both TY and Special, sadly I cant see any way Scarlett makes it through, but cheese is the last, and first for some, resort. Anyway, Special is specially aware of the sneaky play of Scarlett and, with less confidence, I would assume DRG saw Scarlett vs Rogue last season.
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France24237 Posts
July 14 2020 13:52 GMT
#4
Rooting for TY and DRG, but as long as TY qualifies every outcome is good for me.
rickzou
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46 Posts
July 14 2020 14:18 GMT
#5
GSL on the same day with ESL?
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
July 14 2020 14:34 GMT
#6
Nice write-up wax, however in regards to this, I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about in this paragraph:

Now, one might wonder why these old veterans stubbornly try to keep pace in standard games with pros who have basically been practicing non-stop for years (looking at you, TaeJa). Maybe that's just the nature of the world, where it's hard for old dogs to learn new tricks. Or maybe it's because changing styles would be conceding defeat, admitting that there is no road to full recovery for anyone returning from 20 months of military service. Damn, I depressed myself just typing that.


Both DRG and TaeJa have been playing since WoL, and both have been have come back from military service (TaeJa for longer I believe). Can you explain what you mean by that?. Is this a TL bias joke that I've neglected to realise and fell for? .
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55560 Posts
July 14 2020 14:40 GMT
#7
On July 14 2020 23:34 DSK wrote:
Nice write-up wax, however in regards to this, I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about in this paragraph:

Show nested quote +
Now, one might wonder why these old veterans stubbornly try to keep pace in standard games with pros who have basically been practicing non-stop for years (looking at you, TaeJa). Maybe that's just the nature of the world, where it's hard for old dogs to learn new tricks. Or maybe it's because changing styles would be conceding defeat, admitting that there is no road to full recovery for anyone returning from 20 months of military service. Damn, I depressed myself just typing that.


Both DRG and TaeJa have been playing since WoL, and both have been have come back from military service (TaeJa for longer I believe). Can you explain what you mean by that?. Is this a TL bias joke that I've neglected to realise and fell for? .

What Wax is talking about or rather questioning is why military returnees like DRG and TaeJa favor bog standard macro games so heavily as opposed to making things a bit more wacky and whether they're unwilling or unable to change, on the basis that the other active players have been able to practice and refine such games undisturbed for many years.

And then there's a jab at TaeJa for his reputation of never practicing much in the past.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 14 2020 14:53 GMT
#8
I wouldn't be surprised at all to see DRG make a good showing here. I think he's favoured to advance after TY. But Special could upset anyone, he could even snipe TY although admittedly that does rarely happen.

On July 14 2020 23:18 rickzou wrote:
GSL on the same day with ESL?


ESL doesn't start until Thursday. But yes both tournaments have matches this Saturday, which is kinda unbelievable.
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DSK
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England1110 Posts
July 14 2020 15:09 GMT
#9
On July 14 2020 23:40 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2020 23:34 DSK wrote:
Nice write-up wax, however in regards to this, I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about in this paragraph:

Now, one might wonder why these old veterans stubbornly try to keep pace in standard games with pros who have basically been practicing non-stop for years (looking at you, TaeJa). Maybe that's just the nature of the world, where it's hard for old dogs to learn new tricks. Or maybe it's because changing styles would be conceding defeat, admitting that there is no road to full recovery for anyone returning from 20 months of military service. Damn, I depressed myself just typing that.


Both DRG and TaeJa have been playing since WoL, and both have been have come back from military service (TaeJa for longer I believe). Can you explain what you mean by that?. Is this a TL bias joke that I've neglected to realise and fell for? .

What Wax is talking about or rather questioning is why military returnees like DRG and TaeJa favor bog standard macro games so heavily as opposed to making things a bit more wacky and whether they're unwilling or unable to change, on the basis that the other active players have been able to practice and refine such games undisturbed for many years.

And then there's a jab at TaeJa for his reputation of never practicing much in the past.


Thanks, Elentos-sensei!.
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loppy2345
Profile Joined August 2015
39 Posts
July 14 2020 15:59 GMT
#10
Given how angry TY was at Special for picking Stats, would love to see TY vs Special.
johnnywup
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United States3858 Posts
July 14 2020 17:02 GMT
#11
im excited for the inevitable ty vs special
pvsnp
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Last Edited: 2020-07-14 23:04:51
July 14 2020 23:04 GMT
#12
On July 14 2020 23:53 sneakyfox wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised at all to see DRG make a good showing here. I think he's favoured to advance after TY. But Special could upset anyone, he could even snipe TY although admittedly that does rarely happen.

Show nested quote +
On July 14 2020 23:18 rickzou wrote:
GSL on the same day with ESL?


ESL doesn't start until Thursday. But yes both tournaments have matches this Saturday, which is kinda unbelievable.


Parting and Inno woukd both be in a pretty rough spot since it's their group that overlaps. I wouldn't be surprised if GSL reschedules, since they have for conflicts in the past.
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col_jung
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July 15 2020 00:53 GMT
#13
Would love to see TY vs Special
wchigo
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China71 Posts
July 15 2020 01:37 GMT
#14
Uh-oh, I have the same picks as the writers again. That means either TY or SpeCial won’t be getting out of the group... :/

I notice the start time here is listed as 7:30pm HKT... which would mean the games are taking place at 8:30 KST? That seems way too late. The YouTube stream shows as being scheduled for 5:20pm, which is the usual HKT start time.
AirbladeOrange
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United States2573 Posts
July 15 2020 02:14 GMT
#15
Great write-up! I'm cautiously optimistic for Special.
Nakajin
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Canada8989 Posts
July 15 2020 03:19 GMT
#16
Alright, hot take of the season: TY's not getting out of that group
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United States33495 Posts
July 15 2020 03:23 GMT
#17
On July 15 2020 12:19 Nakajin wrote:
Alright, hot take of the season: TY's not getting out of that group


u could make a case for it, he HAS really sucked after winning the GSL.

I just find that betting on reputation has a higher hit rate than predicting the upset based on online results
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Last Edited: 2020-07-15 03:31:16
July 15 2020 03:28 GMT
#18
On July 15 2020 12:19 Nakajin wrote:
Alright, hot take of the season: TY's not getting out of that group


I mean, he would hardly be the first champion to get knocked out first round next season. Not even the first this year, since it happened to Rogue last season.
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Singapore3054 Posts
July 15 2020 03:47 GMT
#19
Hot take 2: DRG to advance in first place
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July 15 2020 05:52 GMT
#20
Hottest take: Scarlett will advance in first place
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July 15 2020 07:43 GMT
#21
On July 15 2020 14:52 litwos28 wrote:
Hottest take: Scarlett will advance in first place


That is pretty hot tbh
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United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-15 08:49:57
July 15 2020 08:43 GMT
#22
The games TY lost online were sort of inconsequential and I don't think we should put much stock in them here. At least one or two of them were build order losses to unscouted cheese, and the other losses were to solid-enough players.

I think its fairly safe betting odds to say TY will advance, likely first. After TY however, there is some clear volatility; I suspect Special has Mech builds in line for both DRG and Scarlett and I know little of their respective ability' to play against the Mech strategies he brought out in the ro24 series against soO.

I suspect we'll see some quick games and a very few long ones, although assessing the current level of play of the three beyond TY relative to one another is somewhat difficult. Scarlett has mentioned in previous interviews and on streams here and there that Mech is quite difficult to deal with at the moment. So aggressive 1/2 base builds are probably likely from her.

I favor TY and DRG by skill, but the 2nd place in this group could go to anyone really.
deacon.frost
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
July 15 2020 08:50 GMT
#23
On July 15 2020 17:43 Alucen-Will- wrote:
The games TY lost online were sort of inconsequential and I don't think we should put much stock in them here. At least one or two of them were build order losses to unscouted cheese, and the other losses were to solid-enough players.

I think its fairly safe betting odds to say TY will advance, likely first. After TY however, there is some clear volatility; I suspect Special has Mech builds in line for both DRG and Scarlett and I know little of their respective ability' to play against the Mech strategies he brought out in the ro24 series against soO.

I suspect we'll see some quick games and a very few long ones, although assessing the level of play of the three players beyond TY relative to one another is somewhat difficult. Scarlett has mentioned in previous interviews and on streams here and there that Mech is quite difficult to deal with. So aggressive 1/2 base builds are probably likely from her.

I favor TY and DRG by skill, but the 2nd place in this group could go to anyone really.

Don't know hwat's Scarlett's current form, but shes the full package. Dirty cheeser, long games with patience(or against Patience ), she has it all IMO
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July 15 2020 11:53 GMT
#24
On July 15 2020 12:47 sudete wrote:
Hot take 2: DRG to advance in first place


Welcome back to 2012 everyone
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The Dong is officially back!
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#26
On July 15 2020 20:53 sudete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2020 12:47 sudete wrote:
Hot take 2: DRG to advance in first place


Welcome back to 2012 everyone


Well he did say in the interview that he emulated Serral's play so I guess not.
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