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2019 Season 4 Ladder Maps Announced

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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33326 Posts
November 12 2019 20:46 GMT
#1
Original Blizzard Post

1v1 Map pool
  • Triton LE
  • Ephemeron LE
  • World of Sleepers LE
  • Zen LE
  • Simulacrum LE
  • Nightshade LE
  • Eternal Empire LE


New 1v1 Maps

Eternal Empire

Actually the modern interpretation of Cloud Kingdom. It takes the good parts of that map to make a larger and a more suited version for Legacy of the Void. This version emphasizes even more of the idea of “The longer path gives a better angle”.

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Nightshade

Nightshade might not offer anything revolutionary but it has a solid standard layout that allows players to choose from a wide range of different playstyles. Rocks at both third base options help with early defense. The aesthetics of the map are like an organic version of cyberpunk with bright purples, pinks and blues to contrast the darker base textures.

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Simulacrum

This digital battleground provides the standard complement of chokes, open areas, and choices of expansion. Defend the central bridges, or control the forward high ground bases as a late game focal point.

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Zen

This map is set in a Zen garden, it even had two Koi ponds on the sides. The main feature of the map is the two small entrances to the natural. The first one gives a direct and short path to the opponent but is only one tile wide but it can be enlarged by mining the minerals. The other choke is 6 tiles wide and lead to the third base. In the middle, there are two sets of mineral walls that make the path one tile wide. These paths make large armies extremely slow unless you mine these paths. This map also has more advanced custom cliffs that were shaped into pillars.

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GreasedUpDeafGuy
Profile Joined August 2018
United States398 Posts
November 12 2019 21:02 GMT
#2
inb4 the whining.


They seem fine. Getting tired of all the standard shit though
Cant catch me. You're wasting your time
Obamarauder
Profile Joined June 2015
697 Posts
November 12 2019 21:08 GMT
#3
How do you end the game on eternal empire?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
November 12 2019 21:15 GMT
#4
Eternal Empire seems like another amazing zerg map
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
November 12 2019 21:37 GMT
#5
But when?
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Howard_Kao
Profile Joined September 2018
China261 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-12 21:43:46
November 12 2019 21:43 GMT
#6
On November 13 2019 06:15 johnnywup wrote:
Eternal Empire seems like another amazing zerg map

I think that map won't be as good as it got a lot of potential choke point and not every place is wide open, in contrast, nightshade seems to be a very zerg flavored map
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Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
November 12 2019 22:14 GMT
#7
On November 13 2019 06:43 Howard_Kao wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2019 06:15 johnnywup wrote:
Eternal Empire seems like another amazing zerg map

I think that map won't be as good as it got a lot of potential choke point and not every place is wide open, in contrast, nightshade seems to be a very zerg flavored map

Yes, Nightshade has all the traits of a map good for zerg. It's big, has few chokes, has wide ramps, and both third locations are quite open with few simcity opportunities for protoss or terran. It will likely be a definite veto for terrans and probably for protoss too.

And yes, Eternal Empire is big but it has a lot of chokes, narrower ramps, and most of the large ramps have rocks on them. This seems like a much better compromise for a big map than what we saw with the current map pool.

Simulacrum is aggressively generic, but honestly after the mess of a map pool we had this season, I'm fine with that. A medium-sized map with standard expansion layouts sounds pretty good right about now.

Curious to see how the zen garden map will play out. The mineral patches have been a neat idea so far, and this map takes them to new extremes.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
Kantuva
Profile Joined April 2010
Uruguay206 Posts
November 12 2019 23:09 GMT
#8
Can I just make a note, and give congrats to all the mapmakers? The art has been steadily improving for years, and we have reached a period where they just look soooo goooooddddd

On a different note, I'm 100% interested on what will happen to Zen, if DevTeam will decide to make changes to it, or if they are confident the gameplay of it will be sturdy enough to warrant ladder spot, tho it is the offseason, so I would imagine they, themselves are interested on how this map would play out!
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Steelghost1
Profile Joined June 2019
43 Posts
November 12 2019 23:31 GMT
#9
Someday, some high level player will actually make a proper guide on competitive map making for starcraft I hope, still waiting...
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2141 Posts
November 12 2019 23:40 GMT
#10
On November 13 2019 08:31 Steelghost1 wrote:
Someday, some high level player will actually make a proper guide on competitive map making for starcraft I hope, still waiting...

let's be honest, if you asked 5 pro players what a good competitive map looks like, you'd end up with 7 different answers lol
vibeo gane,
FBTsingLoong
Profile Joined April 2018
China410 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-12 23:55:06
November 12 2019 23:51 GMT
#11
I really hope Blizzard can make more bright-color maps,just like Eternal Empire and Zen.Bright colors make me feel delighted and easy.And Nightshade,please fxxk off,OK?
TyInnoMaruByunAlive,TIMBA
LHK
Profile Joined May 2015
204 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-12 23:53:28
November 12 2019 23:52 GMT
#12
I really love the aesthetic of Zen. It even has koi ponds ^^; But the layout and aesthetic is very nice, and I really like the bases to the side of the mains. Very defensible location, I think it'll help T and P to have a base like that against Zerg. Eternal Empire seems like a nice balance of big map (good for zerg) and lots of chokes / good fighting locations (good for T/P). Interested to see how that plays out.

Hats off to whoever made Zen. Even if it's wildly imbalanced, i quite like the way it looks and am stoked to play on it.
-Laura
Obamarauder
Profile Joined June 2015
697 Posts
November 12 2019 23:52 GMT
#13
Sc2 needs to revive the hots style maps like overgrowth and echo. Triangle/straight line main/natural/third, straight attack path down middle, watchtower at center or 1 at each side not too far away, medium rush distance, no excessive chokes/ramps/dead space that allows terrain abuse from tanks or air units
Sc2Nebula
Profile Joined March 2019
15 Posts
November 13 2019 00:42 GMT
#14
I want more interesting maps like purity and industry tho. :/
St0nedas
Profile Joined July 2019
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-13 00:57:12
November 13 2019 00:51 GMT
#15
I just want to know which ones I can pull cannon rush shenanigans on :D
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19225 Posts
November 13 2019 01:33 GMT
#16
I thought a lot of people were upset with the balance of world of sleepers. Is this something I am remembering wrong?
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TheAnarchy
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-13 02:10:26
November 13 2019 02:09 GMT
#17
Isn’t Lost Temple on the map Pool anymore? Pretty much anti zergs maps
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2830 Posts
November 13 2019 03:29 GMT
#18
Where's Purity and Industry?

aka wilted_kale
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 13 2019 03:52 GMT
#19
Interesting that they picked maps 4,6,8 and 9 from TLMC 13--usually they just grab whatever tops the category.
RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
November 13 2019 05:16 GMT
#20
I want pure and industry.
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