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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4408 Posts
October 27 2019 14:46 GMT
#21
Damn they couldn't even give Maru a match against Reynor to start :/ With the current balance and his bracket he is the automatic goat if he wins this event. Hoping for the soO over Serral upset.
TaDaSoLa1
Profile Joined March 2018
4 Posts
October 27 2019 14:54 GMT
#22
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FBTsingLoong
Profile Joined April 2018
China410 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-27 15:03:11
October 27 2019 14:59 GMT
#23
We'll have 4 Z players in Ro4.Then Serral will prove the world's best ZvZ and win another trophy.
TyInnoMaruByunAlive,TIMBA
RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
October 27 2019 15:20 GMT
#24
Champion is Zerg
Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
October 27 2019 15:37 GMT
#25
Dear Maru, deliver us from an all ZvZ semifinals.
Mine gas, build tanks.
Poaktree
Profile Joined January 2017
165 Posts
October 27 2019 15:47 GMT
#26
This could easily be Dark-Serral finals. If Dark beats Maru, Rogue is not going to stop him.
Trizz
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1318 Posts
October 27 2019 15:48 GMT
#27
anything but zvz finals please holy fuck it is such a boring mu
nope
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
October 27 2019 15:51 GMT
#28
Ah these zerg... at least i'll go to sleep early
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
October 27 2019 15:57 GMT
#29
On October 28 2019 00:47 Poaktree wrote:
This could easily be Dark-Serral finals. If Dark beats Maru, Rogue is not going to stop him.


Darks only chance to reach final is to hope Classic somehow gets rid of Rogue. Dark almost never beats Rogue, his ZvZ is at least 1 tier below and Rogue is also a lot better at these kind of tournaments.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
October 27 2019 15:58 GMT
#30
Serral vs soO:
This was probably the best draw for Serral: soO did beat him at IEM but he’s fallen off considerably since that day. The style Serral plays is simply superior. soO will put up a fight of course but Serral is the best player in the world for a reason.

Reynor vs Trap:
Of all the initial matches we gave this one might be the most evenly matched. You have two players making their first RO76. The meta clearly favors Reynor, but Trap is a JAG and no doubt will have some time to bring out some special ideas. His PvZ approach was very interesting to watch last night and Reynor has been known to forget to make infestors. As for Reynor, just ask Serral how good he is.

Rogue vs Classic:
IEM Katowice 2018 Final Rematch. The state of high level PvZ is in a pretty bad way. Rogue knows it. So does Classic. Rogue had to be pretty happy with this draw. That being said, don’t underestimate how motivated Classic is with his impending doom/military service, AND... if there is one Protoss who is able to answer our current PvZ meta questions... can you think of a better Toss player to solve it? Rogue is the favorite because he’s the Zerg but if I’m betting on any Protoss to upset him....

Dark vs Maru:
What a difference a year makes, huh? A year ago at this time, Maru was crushing it on his way to #1 Korea. Now Dark has that moniker. As some of you have mentioned before, Maru is one if the players they trust to get TvZ figured out. You’re right. Dark is also significantly better. He showed good form over the year and looked frightening in ST2. For once the meta isn’t in a place he can whine about it. As with Trap, Maru does have JAG to help him out though and has said he remembers the sOs debacle last year as much as we do. Both of these players are highly motivated so I’m expect this match to go to the distance and I have no idea who should come out on top. It all depends on what version of Maru shows up

Predictions: Serral (confidence: Extreme), Reynor (confidence: none), Classic -calling for the upset (Confidence: Low), Dark (Confidence: 50-50).

Ro4 Predictions: Serral over Reynor: Confidence High, Dark over Classic: Confidence Moderate

Final: Serral over Dark: Confidence High

There is my two cents.
youaremysin
Profile Joined August 2015
119 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-27 15:59:48
October 27 2019 15:59 GMT
#31
(Z)(Z)Serral - (Z)(Z)soO 3:1
(Z)(Z)Reynor - (P)(P)Trap 3:2
(Z)(Z)Rogue - (P)(P)Classic 1:3
(Z)(Z)Dark - (T)(T)Maru 3:0

(Z)(Z)Serral - (Z)(Z)Reynor 3:1
(P)(P)Classic - (Z)(Z)Dark 0:3

(Z)(Z)Serral - (Z)(Z)Dark 4:1
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 27 2019 16:17 GMT
#32
It's a shame Dark will beat Maru because he has zero chance getting past Rogue
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
October 27 2019 16:21 GMT
#33
On October 27 2019 22:33 Veluvian wrote:
Zerg is so IMBA that they can burrow units under glass surface :D :D :D

You are joking but you will probably be able to do it next ladder season.
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StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
October 27 2019 16:23 GMT
#34
On October 28 2019 01:21 Superouman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2019 22:33 Veluvian wrote:
Zerg is so IMBA that they can burrow units under glass surface :D :D :D

You are joking but you will probably be able to do it next ladder season.


He’s actually not - Winter’s Gate :-)
Monster3
Profile Joined October 2018
16 Posts
October 27 2019 16:34 GMT
#35
A number of players got their best match-ups;

Serral (best ZvZ in the world)
Rogue (best ZvP in the world)
Dark (best ZvT in the world)

They are also the three form players (won the last three major tournaments). I'm hard pressed to see how they don't win their respective Ro8s as both form and historical strength is in their favor. The only one I'd question probably is Dark vs Maru, as historically Maru has had the best TvZ in the world.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4953 Posts
October 27 2019 16:39 GMT
#36
Maru needs revenge! Remember how people doubt Maru in their GSL rematch vs Stats after ST1? Then Maru 2-0d Stats in GSL. I think the same is going to happen this time. Maru 3 Dark 1
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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od1himself
Profile Joined January 2014
Austria7 Posts
October 27 2019 16:55 GMT
#37
I am a huge Maru fan... but I can't see him winning this year with that meta. Zerg is currently too favored on top lvl. He must play a level above Dark, Rogue and Serral. Which is pretty hard

So I would bet on zvz semis... awesome...
MKP!
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 27 2019 17:00 GMT
#38
On October 28 2019 01:55 od1himself wrote:
I am a huge Maru fan... but I can't see him winning this year with that meta. Zerg is currently too favored on top lvl. He must play a level above Dark, Rogue and Serral. Which is pretty hard

So I would bet on zvz semis... awesome...

It's not undoable, the issue is that even if he gets to the finals he played 2 high profiled TvZs, any zerg who would face him already has enough of material... there's a reason why everyone and their mother say that Terran gets the most from preparation and the less when they cannot prepare. And now this ...
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
DreamlnCode
Profile Joined December 2018
United Kingdom77 Posts
October 27 2019 17:05 GMT
#39
Please tell me this bracket is a joke.

What have they done to this game?
Vazalemma
Profile Joined March 2017
Estonia18 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-27 17:28:43
October 27 2019 17:16 GMT
#40
Here's my prediction:

(Z)Serral 3 : 0 (Z)soO
soO will meet a brick wall and Serral continues his lossless win streak
(Z)Reynor 3 : 1 (P)Trap
Traps chances are very slim, but he will try hard and gets one point on the board
(Z)Rogue 3 : 0 (P)Classic
Rogue will devour Classic for breakfast
(Z)Dark 3 : 2 (T)Maru
Maru will fight valiantly, but will still succumb to the swarm of zerg

Full zerg semifinals incoming

(Z)Serral 3 : 0 (Z)Reynor
Serral forgets how to lose, and is looking to literally clean sweep Blizzcon
(Z)Rogue 3 : 2 (Z)Dark
This will be a close bloodbath on a knife-edge, but Rogue will barely come out with the victory

(Z)Serral 4 : 1 (Z)Rogue
Rogue tries to prove korean zerg strength to Serral, but Serral slaps it down and nearly clean sweeps Blizzcon

I will be rooting for the non-zerg though, especially Maru. Would love to see Serral vs Maru (as does everyone), but I think this is a curse now and we will never see it happen lmao
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