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Kitai
United States867 Posts
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HolydaKing
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I hope we will see a good Maru at Blizzcon, although I wouldn't cheer for him if he plays against Serral. | ||
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Konage47
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
On October 27 2019 23:45 Nakajin wrote: Maybe, just maybe, Trap can beat Raynor? Should be all zvz for now on, Maru had the best shot but I don't see him beating Dark Maru-Dark could go either way, but Dark has to be considered the favourite right now, yeah. Trap-Reynor could be a close match, I'm not 100% sure what to expect. Trap is probably the best Protoss in the world right now. The other two matches seem more certain to me. Of course soO could always pull out something spectacular, but I think it won't be close. And Classic... we've seen that he can come out with incredible tailored prep builds. He could do it. He'll probably find some way to make a series out of it. But he should get wrecked. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On October 28 2019 03:03 Konage47 wrote: love how the odds are stacked against Maru here compared to Serrals bracket. Most likely he will have to somehow beat rogue and dark, and face serral after showing him all his builds. putting on my tinfoil hat and saying brackets are rigged to make it serral favor. Most likely zvz in the round of four and up Sure, Blizzard rigged the bracket in Serral's favor. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12128 Posts
On October 28 2019 03:04 neutralrobot wrote: Maru-Dark could go either way, but Dark has to be considered the favourite right now, yeah. Trap-Reynor could be a close match, I'm not 100% sure what to expect. Trap is probably the best Protoss in the world right now. The other two matches seem more certain to me. Of course soO could always pull out something spectacular, but I think it won't be close. And Classic... we've seen that he can come out with incredible tailored prep builds. He could do it. He'll probably find some way to make a series out of it. But he should get wrecked. soO is actually pretty good in vSerral even when he's slacking. I believe those 2 victories in the last NW were when he was slumping hard too. | ||
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Serimek
France2274 Posts
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Riner1212
United States337 Posts
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La1
United Kingdom659 Posts
On October 28 2019 03:03 Konage47 wrote: love how the odds are stacked against Maru here compared to Serrals bracket. Most likely he will have to somehow beat rogue and dark, and face serral after showing him all his builds. putting on my tinfoil hat and saying brackets are rigged to make it serral favor. Most likely zvz in the round of four and up Maybe.. just maybe finishing top of your group meant you got an easier ro8 match.. Its hardly unfair, maru wasn't the highest ranked in wcs points and he didn't win his group.. only has himself to blame.. I hope he gets rolled.. | ||
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dysenterymd
1166 Posts
Serral 3-1 soO Trap 3-2 Reynor Classic 3-2 Rogue (why not, a man can dream, and Rogue seemed somewhat vulnerable to Neeb's cheddar) Dark 3-0 Maru Serral 3-1 Trap Dark 3-1 Classic Serral 4-1 Dark Hoping Classic can make it to the finals, what a sexy and smart player. Going to miss him a lot. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12128 Posts
On October 28 2019 03:38 La1 wrote: Maybe.. just maybe finishing top of your group meant you got an easier ro8 match.. Its hardly unfair, maru wasn't the highest ranked in wcs points and he didn't win his group.. only has himself to blame.. I hope he gets rolled.. He's more saying that it ended with stacked one side and less takced second side... | ||
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Konage47
6 Posts
On October 28 2019 03:38 La1 wrote: Maybe.. just maybe finishing top of your group meant you got an easier ro8 match.. Its hardly unfair, maru wasn't the highest ranked in wcs points and he didn't win his group.. only has himself to blame.. I hope he gets rolled.. I was just playing devil advocate to the bracket tinfoilers, but in all honestly the bottom bracket is extremely stacked. if Maru wins he would have to go through the best ZvTer, top 3 Zerg in Rogue that knows all his build orders, and then potentially face Serral that will see how he plays ZvT which is a huge disadvantage. If he somehow wins it I would consider him goat being that the meta is zerg favor and how the brackets are. | ||
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UnLarva
458 Posts
On October 28 2019 03:03 Konage47 wrote: love how the odds are stacked against Maru here compared to Serrals bracket. Most likely he will have to somehow beat rogue and dark, and face serral after showing him all his builds. putting on my tinfoil hat and saying brackets are rigged to make it serral favor. Most likely zvz in the round of four and up Your notion is real, but (when writing this) its also valid for Reynor and SoO. Brackets now may favor Serral, but does they favor him then when we have the final match under our scrutiny (assuming Serral makes it that far)? Successful Maru will have effectively best available, relevant ZvZ tactical data in use in the Finals, naturally applicable against himself too (assuming Maru makes it that far)? Instead, its not that clear Maru must (or at least should) use his all Anti-Zerg strats before the final, as Zergs won't likely use them either unless necessary, but Zergs who use Anti-Maru strats succesfully against him also expand other Zergs' playbook when doing so, and Maru will be equally aware of that in that same moment it (may) happen. Maru's uphill is all those zergs he must struggle against if being successful (and Protoss suck as expected), but in that uphill he can still himself control to some degree what he show to his Zerg opponents. Perceiving Zergs will all see what Maru want them to see. Also Protoss players' experience vs Zerg is more beneficial for Maru, than it is for Zergs. Maru's perk in these circumstances is the fact that he is the only Terran left. No other Terran will interfere with his potential strats. Good luck Maru! Now or never! | ||
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Anc13nt
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
On October 28 2019 04:01 Konage47 wrote: I was just playing devil advocate to the bracket tinfoilers, but in all honestly the bottom bracket is extremely stacked. if Maru wins he would have to go through the best ZvTer, top 3 Zerg in Rogue that knows all his build orders, and then potentially face Serral that will see how he plays ZvT which is a huge disadvantage. If he somehow wins it I would consider him goat being that the meta is zerg favor and how the brackets are. I think Maru will be GOAT as long as he makes it to the finals. If he wins, he will be the clear GOAT as no one can keep making the argument that "he can't be GOAT because he's bad at weekenders" (while simultaneously believing Serral can become GOAT even though he has never played in Code S lol). For the record, I believe Serral can be GOAT without winning GSL but I'm just pointing out that if Maru can't be GOAT because he's weaker in weekender tournaments, then neither can Serral unless you believe that Serral winning GSLs in a counterfactual is almost as good as winning them in reality. | ||
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mindover
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I come from the future | ||
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Conut
Canada1026 Posts
Really hating the design of zergy bois, wish you couldnt neural massive units it kinda destroyed every army I have seen out of terran and protoss, if it wasnt in the game would zerg still be good? | ||
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starkiller123
United States4029 Posts
On October 28 2019 04:31 Conut wrote: Man I know everyone is complaining but I just came back from WOL very early hots I skipped hots because I hated swarmhosts so basically I'm coming from infestor broodlord and swarmhost to current meta of infestor broodlord and swarm host. Really hating the design of zergy bois, wish you couldnt neural massive units it kinda destroyed every army I have seen out of terran and protoss, if it wasnt in the game would zerg still be good? I'm sure zerg would still be fine, right now I'm not bothered by broodlord infestor in my ladder games I just find it incredibly awful to watch | ||
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Conut
Canada1026 Posts
On October 28 2019 04:36 starkiller123 wrote: I'm sure zerg would still be fine, right now I'm not bothered by broodlord infestor in my ladder games I just find it incredibly awful to watch Its boiled over for me from spectator to player, the zerg seem to have an answer for everything, mass air units mass ground units, chokepoints early defense movable buildings I usually dont look at balance since I'm just like low masters and I am always macroing and controlling my army like garbage but i still cant help but hate the balance. At least I'm not protoss lol | ||
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starkiller123
United States4029 Posts
On October 28 2019 04:44 Conut wrote: Its boiled over for me from spectator to player, the zerg seem to have an answer for everything, mass air units mass ground units, chokepoints early defense movable buildings I usually dont look at balance since I'm just like low masters and I am always macroing and controlling my army like garbage but i still cant help but hate the balance. At least I'm not protoss lol yeah I'm diamond 1 right now and I'm so bad balance dosent really effect my games lol | ||
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