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Northern Ireland27280 Posts
I like the nod to Starcraft’s spiritual home, plus I like the Bo5 change a lot too, more Starcraft and theoretically makes it more likely the better players make the Ro8
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The only part of this I don’t like is all of one group’s matches being on one day. By the last match both players are going to be gassed after playing two high-pressure Bo5’s. Four matches per day, one per group would make more sense, but I guess Blizzard wants the tournament to be as done as quickly as possible.
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On September 28 2019 19:33 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2019 19:30 sneakyfox wrote:
This is a nice move by Blizzard. It brings some hype to the Korean scene and gives us the stellar Afreeca production with a real studio audience instead of the empty-studio-nasl-sound-guy-waiting-fest we're used to. I bet it even saves Blizzard money.
This also means that we will finally get a blizzcon where everyone is equally jetlagged. Way to achieve balance, guys.
As for the foreigners, since they have nothing else to do at the moment they can just fly in to Seoul early to get used to the time zone and enjoy the advantage of the superior practice environment.
If they get there too early they will accidentally teach the Korean Zergs how to play ZvZ, seems risky.
LOL, lost my coffee on that one, well played. 
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On September 30 2019 01:04 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2019 19:42 sneakyfox wrote:On September 29 2019 10:01 Waxangel wrote:On September 29 2019 04:46 BaneRiders wrote:
Stupid. Stupid stupid stupid. Between 6-12k watched the GSL final this morning. WCS EU qualifiers attracted more viewers than that. Well, for context, Korean fans have dealt with bad time zones for Global Finals for the entire time modern WCS has existed (2013~). Even if Korea has a relatively small fanbase (last night's Code S finals peaked at like 3700 viewers on AfreecaTV), Korean players still account for HALF of the Global Finals, while Koreans account for like 95%+ of all the success in high level SC2 progaming. I think it's reasonable enough to cater to Korea this ONE time out of six seven Global Finals  . I agree, but this isn't really catering to Korean fans. 12 pm on a weekday? That's not a good time slot. Really it seems that blizzard are catering to NA fans (west coast fans) with that evening broadcast. Well in that case the California broadcast wasn't even good for NA fans, because they started on a Thursday at 9:30AM Pacific time. TL;DR: unite against greedy Europeans? 
Are we talking about the same thing? I was referring to the global finals ro16 in Seoul which will be held at 8:00 pm pacific and noon in Korea. And Europeans have to get up at 4 am.
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Canada8990 Posts
On September 30 2019 04:33 sneakyfox wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2019 01:04 Waxangel wrote:On September 29 2019 19:42 sneakyfox wrote:On September 29 2019 10:01 Waxangel wrote:On September 29 2019 04:46 BaneRiders wrote:
Stupid. Stupid stupid stupid. Between 6-12k watched the GSL final this morning. WCS EU qualifiers attracted more viewers than that. Well, for context, Korean fans have dealt with bad time zones for Global Finals for the entire time modern WCS has existed (2013~). Even if Korea has a relatively small fanbase (last night's Code S finals peaked at like 3700 viewers on AfreecaTV), Korean players still account for HALF of the Global Finals, while Koreans account for like 95%+ of all the success in high level SC2 progaming. I think it's reasonable enough to cater to Korea this ONE time out of six seven Global Finals . I agree, but this isn't really catering to Korean fans. 12 pm on a weekday? That's not a good time slot. Really it seems that blizzard are catering to NA fans (west coast fans) with that evening broadcast. Well in that case the California broadcast wasn't even good for NA fans, because they started on a Thursday at 9:30AM Pacific time. TL;DR: unite against greedy Europeans? Are we talking about the same thing? I was referring to the global finals ro16 in Seoul which will be held at 8:00 pm pacific and noon in Korea. And Europeans have to get up at 4 am.
Are European really bitching about getting up at 4am once to watch Blizzcon.
It's like zerg players complaining about that one time they lose a late game zvp
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Northern Ireland27280 Posts
On September 30 2019 04:37 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2019 04:33 sneakyfox wrote:On September 30 2019 01:04 Waxangel wrote:On September 29 2019 19:42 sneakyfox wrote:On September 29 2019 10:01 Waxangel wrote:On September 29 2019 04:46 BaneRiders wrote:
Stupid. Stupid stupid stupid. Between 6-12k watched the GSL final this morning. WCS EU qualifiers attracted more viewers than that. Well, for context, Korean fans have dealt with bad time zones for Global Finals for the entire time modern WCS has existed (2013~). Even if Korea has a relatively small fanbase (last night's Code S finals peaked at like 3700 viewers on AfreecaTV), Korean players still account for HALF of the Global Finals, while Koreans account for like 95%+ of all the success in high level SC2 progaming. I think it's reasonable enough to cater to Korea this ONE time out of six seven Global Finals . I agree, but this isn't really catering to Korean fans. 12 pm on a weekday? That's not a good time slot. Really it seems that blizzard are catering to NA fans (west coast fans) with that evening broadcast. Well in that case the California broadcast wasn't even good for NA fans, because they started on a Thursday at 9:30AM Pacific time. TL;DR: unite against greedy Europeans? Are we talking about the same thing? I was referring to the global finals ro16 in Seoul which will be held at 8:00 pm pacific and noon in Korea. And Europeans have to get up at 4 am. Are European really bitching about getting up at 4am once to watch Blizzcon?
Staying up is surely the better option? How the fuck does one wake up at 3:30am?
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Canada8990 Posts
On September 30 2019 04:39 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2019 04:37 Nakajin wrote:On September 30 2019 04:33 sneakyfox wrote:On September 30 2019 01:04 Waxangel wrote:On September 29 2019 19:42 sneakyfox wrote:On September 29 2019 10:01 Waxangel wrote:On September 29 2019 04:46 BaneRiders wrote:
Stupid. Stupid stupid stupid. Between 6-12k watched the GSL final this morning. WCS EU qualifiers attracted more viewers than that. Well, for context, Korean fans have dealt with bad time zones for Global Finals for the entire time modern WCS has existed (2013~). Even if Korea has a relatively small fanbase (last night's Code S finals peaked at like 3700 viewers on AfreecaTV), Korean players still account for HALF of the Global Finals, while Koreans account for like 95%+ of all the success in high level SC2 progaming. I think it's reasonable enough to cater to Korea this ONE time out of six seven Global Finals . I agree, but this isn't really catering to Korean fans. 12 pm on a weekday? That's not a good time slot. Really it seems that blizzard are catering to NA fans (west coast fans) with that evening broadcast. Well in that case the California broadcast wasn't even good for NA fans, because they started on a Thursday at 9:30AM Pacific time. TL;DR: unite against greedy Europeans? Are we talking about the same thing? I was referring to the global finals ro16 in Seoul which will be held at 8:00 pm pacific and noon in Korea. And Europeans have to get up at 4 am. Are European really bitching about getting up at 4am once to watch Blizzcon? Staying up is surely the better option? How the fuck does one wake up at 3:30am?
Get up at 4:30, skip the talking, watch the first game on your cell in bed, take a shower during the break, second match with your coffee
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On September 30 2019 04:45 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2019 04:39 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 30 2019 04:37 Nakajin wrote:On September 30 2019 04:33 sneakyfox wrote:On September 30 2019 01:04 Waxangel wrote:On September 29 2019 19:42 sneakyfox wrote:On September 29 2019 10:01 Waxangel wrote:On September 29 2019 04:46 BaneRiders wrote:
Stupid. Stupid stupid stupid. Between 6-12k watched the GSL final this morning. WCS EU qualifiers attracted more viewers than that. Well, for context, Korean fans have dealt with bad time zones for Global Finals for the entire time modern WCS has existed (2013~). Even if Korea has a relatively small fanbase (last night's Code S finals peaked at like 3700 viewers on AfreecaTV), Korean players still account for HALF of the Global Finals, while Koreans account for like 95%+ of all the success in high level SC2 progaming. I think it's reasonable enough to cater to Korea this ONE time out of six seven Global Finals . I agree, but this isn't really catering to Korean fans. 12 pm on a weekday? That's not a good time slot. Really it seems that blizzard are catering to NA fans (west coast fans) with that evening broadcast. Well in that case the California broadcast wasn't even good for NA fans, because they started on a Thursday at 9:30AM Pacific time. TL;DR: unite against greedy Europeans? Are we talking about the same thing? I was referring to the global finals ro16 in Seoul which will be held at 8:00 pm pacific and noon in Korea. And Europeans have to get up at 4 am. Are European really bitching about getting up at 4am once to watch Blizzcon? Staying up is surely the better option? How the fuck does one wake up at 3:30am? Get up at 4:30, skip the talking, watch the first game on your cell in bed, take a shower during the break, second match with your coffee
Then after the 2nd match call in sick for work because it's not the weekend yet and you're gonna have to sleep at some point.
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Northern Ireland27280 Posts
On September 30 2019 05:12 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2019 04:45 Nakajin wrote:On September 30 2019 04:39 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 30 2019 04:37 Nakajin wrote:On September 30 2019 04:33 sneakyfox wrote:On September 30 2019 01:04 Waxangel wrote:On September 29 2019 19:42 sneakyfox wrote:On September 29 2019 10:01 Waxangel wrote:On September 29 2019 04:46 BaneRiders wrote:
Stupid. Stupid stupid stupid. Between 6-12k watched the GSL final this morning. WCS EU qualifiers attracted more viewers than that. Well, for context, Korean fans have dealt with bad time zones for Global Finals for the entire time modern WCS has existed (2013~). Even if Korea has a relatively small fanbase (last night's Code S finals peaked at like 3700 viewers on AfreecaTV), Korean players still account for HALF of the Global Finals, while Koreans account for like 95%+ of all the success in high level SC2 progaming. I think it's reasonable enough to cater to Korea this ONE time out of six seven Global Finals . I agree, but this isn't really catering to Korean fans. 12 pm on a weekday? That's not a good time slot. Really it seems that blizzard are catering to NA fans (west coast fans) with that evening broadcast. Well in that case the California broadcast wasn't even good for NA fans, because they started on a Thursday at 9:30AM Pacific time. TL;DR: unite against greedy Europeans? Are we talking about the same thing? I was referring to the global finals ro16 in Seoul which will be held at 8:00 pm pacific and noon in Korea. And Europeans have to get up at 4 am. Are European really bitching about getting up at 4am once to watch Blizzcon? Staying up is surely the better option? How the fuck does one wake up at 3:30am? Get up at 4:30, skip the talking, watch the first game on your cell in bed, take a shower during the break, second match with your coffee Then after the 2nd match call in sick for work because it's not the weekend yet and you're gonna have to sleep at some point.
Be a NEET and not have to deal with the sick call stress is clearly the superior solution
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On September 30 2019 05:21 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2019 05:12 Elentos wrote:On September 30 2019 04:45 Nakajin wrote:On September 30 2019 04:39 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 30 2019 04:37 Nakajin wrote:On September 30 2019 04:33 sneakyfox wrote:On September 30 2019 01:04 Waxangel wrote:On September 29 2019 19:42 sneakyfox wrote:On September 29 2019 10:01 Waxangel wrote:On September 29 2019 04:46 BaneRiders wrote:
Stupid. Stupid stupid stupid. Between 6-12k watched the GSL final this morning. WCS EU qualifiers attracted more viewers than that. Well, for context, Korean fans have dealt with bad time zones for Global Finals for the entire time modern WCS has existed (2013~). Even if Korea has a relatively small fanbase (last night's Code S finals peaked at like 3700 viewers on AfreecaTV), Korean players still account for HALF of the Global Finals, while Koreans account for like 95%+ of all the success in high level SC2 progaming. I think it's reasonable enough to cater to Korea this ONE time out of six seven Global Finals . I agree, but this isn't really catering to Korean fans. 12 pm on a weekday? That's not a good time slot. Really it seems that blizzard are catering to NA fans (west coast fans) with that evening broadcast. Well in that case the California broadcast wasn't even good for NA fans, because they started on a Thursday at 9:30AM Pacific time. TL;DR: unite against greedy Europeans? Are we talking about the same thing? I was referring to the global finals ro16 in Seoul which will be held at 8:00 pm pacific and noon in Korea. And Europeans have to get up at 4 am. Are European really bitching about getting up at 4am once to watch Blizzcon? Staying up is surely the better option? How the fuck does one wake up at 3:30am? Get up at 4:30, skip the talking, watch the first game on your cell in bed, take a shower during the break, second match with your coffee Then after the 2nd match call in sick for work because it's not the weekend yet and you're gonna have to sleep at some point. Be a NEET and not have to deal with the sick call stress is clearly the superior solution
Too late for me to join that glorious group of people. So my plan for the group stage is to catch a bit of the action on my phone and then watch VODs when I get home.
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Czech Republic12133 Posts
On September 30 2019 04:39 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2019 04:37 Nakajin wrote:On September 30 2019 04:33 sneakyfox wrote:On September 30 2019 01:04 Waxangel wrote:On September 29 2019 19:42 sneakyfox wrote:On September 29 2019 10:01 Waxangel wrote:On September 29 2019 04:46 BaneRiders wrote:
Stupid. Stupid stupid stupid. Between 6-12k watched the GSL final this morning. WCS EU qualifiers attracted more viewers than that. Well, for context, Korean fans have dealt with bad time zones for Global Finals for the entire time modern WCS has existed (2013~). Even if Korea has a relatively small fanbase (last night's Code S finals peaked at like 3700 viewers on AfreecaTV), Korean players still account for HALF of the Global Finals, while Koreans account for like 95%+ of all the success in high level SC2 progaming. I think it's reasonable enough to cater to Korea this ONE time out of six seven Global Finals . I agree, but this isn't really catering to Korean fans. 12 pm on a weekday? That's not a good time slot. Really it seems that blizzard are catering to NA fans (west coast fans) with that evening broadcast. Well in that case the California broadcast wasn't even good for NA fans, because they started on a Thursday at 9:30AM Pacific time. TL;DR: unite against greedy Europeans? Are we talking about the same thing? I was referring to the global finals ro16 in Seoul which will be held at 8:00 pm pacific and noon in Korea. And Europeans have to get up at 4 am. Are European really bitching about getting up at 4am once to watch Blizzcon? Staying up is surely the better option? How the fuck does one wake up at 3:30am?
YOu don't and skip it?
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Northern Ireland27280 Posts
On September 30 2019 06:02 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2019 04:39 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 30 2019 04:37 Nakajin wrote:On September 30 2019 04:33 sneakyfox wrote:On September 30 2019 01:04 Waxangel wrote:On September 29 2019 19:42 sneakyfox wrote:On September 29 2019 10:01 Waxangel wrote:On September 29 2019 04:46 BaneRiders wrote:
Stupid. Stupid stupid stupid. Between 6-12k watched the GSL final this morning. WCS EU qualifiers attracted more viewers than that. Well, for context, Korean fans have dealt with bad time zones for Global Finals for the entire time modern WCS has existed (2013~). Even if Korea has a relatively small fanbase (last night's Code S finals peaked at like 3700 viewers on AfreecaTV), Korean players still account for HALF of the Global Finals, while Koreans account for like 95%+ of all the success in high level SC2 progaming. I think it's reasonable enough to cater to Korea this ONE time out of six seven Global Finals . I agree, but this isn't really catering to Korean fans. 12 pm on a weekday? That's not a good time slot. Really it seems that blizzard are catering to NA fans (west coast fans) with that evening broadcast. Well in that case the California broadcast wasn't even good for NA fans, because they started on a Thursday at 9:30AM Pacific time. TL;DR: unite against greedy Europeans? Are we talking about the same thing? I was referring to the global finals ro16 in Seoul which will be held at 8:00 pm pacific and noon in Korea. And Europeans have to get up at 4 am. Are European really bitching about getting up at 4am once to watch Blizzcon? Staying up is surely the better option? How the fuck does one wake up at 3:30am? YOu don't and skip it?
Nah if something occurs before like 6am I just stay up, not much of an early riser!
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Super change.
We are gonna have an an actual audience, and BO5 helps the better player. Wonder who will cast the games in Korea and in America?
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Russian Federation193 Posts
Serral 4th place in group would be awesome
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On September 30 2019 05:21 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2019 05:12 Elentos wrote:On September 30 2019 04:45 Nakajin wrote:On September 30 2019 04:39 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 30 2019 04:37 Nakajin wrote:On September 30 2019 04:33 sneakyfox wrote:On September 30 2019 01:04 Waxangel wrote:On September 29 2019 19:42 sneakyfox wrote:On September 29 2019 10:01 Waxangel wrote:On September 29 2019 04:46 BaneRiders wrote:
Stupid. Stupid stupid stupid. Between 6-12k watched the GSL final this morning. WCS EU qualifiers attracted more viewers than that. Well, for context, Korean fans have dealt with bad time zones for Global Finals for the entire time modern WCS has existed (2013~). Even if Korea has a relatively small fanbase (last night's Code S finals peaked at like 3700 viewers on AfreecaTV), Korean players still account for HALF of the Global Finals, while Koreans account for like 95%+ of all the success in high level SC2 progaming. I think it's reasonable enough to cater to Korea this ONE time out of six seven Global Finals . I agree, but this isn't really catering to Korean fans. 12 pm on a weekday? That's not a good time slot. Really it seems that blizzard are catering to NA fans (west coast fans) with that evening broadcast. Well in that case the California broadcast wasn't even good for NA fans, because they started on a Thursday at 9:30AM Pacific time. TL;DR: unite against greedy Europeans? Are we talking about the same thing? I was referring to the global finals ro16 in Seoul which will be held at 8:00 pm pacific and noon in Korea. And Europeans have to get up at 4 am. Are European really bitching about getting up at 4am once to watch Blizzcon? Staying up is surely the better option? How the fuck does one wake up at 3:30am? Get up at 4:30, skip the talking, watch the first game on your cell in bed, take a shower during the break, second match with your coffee Then after the 2nd match call in sick for work because it's not the weekend yet and you're gonna have to sleep at some point. Be a NEET and not have to deal with the sick call stress is clearly the superior solution
If you really love starcraft it's the only way to do it.
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Northern Ireland27280 Posts
On September 30 2019 06:17 sneakyfox wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2019 05:21 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 30 2019 05:12 Elentos wrote:On September 30 2019 04:45 Nakajin wrote:On September 30 2019 04:39 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 30 2019 04:37 Nakajin wrote:On September 30 2019 04:33 sneakyfox wrote:On September 30 2019 01:04 Waxangel wrote:On September 29 2019 19:42 sneakyfox wrote:On September 29 2019 10:01 Waxangel wrote:[quote] Well, for context, Korean fans have dealt with bad time zones for Global Finals for the entire time modern WCS has existed (2013~). Even if Korea has a relatively small fanbase (last night's Code S finals peaked at like 3700 viewers on AfreecaTV), Korean players still account for HALF of the Global Finals, while Koreans account for like 95%+ of all the success in high level SC2 progaming. I think it's reasonable enough to cater to Korea this ONE time out of six seven Global Finals . I agree, but this isn't really catering to Korean fans. 12 pm on a weekday? That's not a good time slot. Really it seems that blizzard are catering to NA fans (west coast fans) with that evening broadcast. Well in that case the California broadcast wasn't even good for NA fans, because they started on a Thursday at 9:30AM Pacific time. TL;DR: unite against greedy Europeans? Are we talking about the same thing? I was referring to the global finals ro16 in Seoul which will be held at 8:00 pm pacific and noon in Korea. And Europeans have to get up at 4 am. Are European really bitching about getting up at 4am once to watch Blizzcon? Staying up is surely the better option? How the fuck does one wake up at 3:30am? Get up at 4:30, skip the talking, watch the first game on your cell in bed, take a shower during the break, second match with your coffee Then after the 2nd match call in sick for work because it's not the weekend yet and you're gonna have to sleep at some point. Be a NEET and not have to deal with the sick call stress is clearly the superior solution If you really love starcraft it's the only way to do it.
Hate life, love Starcraft.
(For the record I’m not actually a NEET)
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On September 30 2019 06:11 EEk1TwEEk wrote:
Serral 4th place in group would be awesome
Just as much as a BlizzCon final without koreans.
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This is a fantastic event. Great work by Blizzard to create and support this.
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I really like this idea. To anyone saying “oh no the foreigners” have to travel are forgetting the Koreans have to travel to BlizzCon every year.
Hoping for good performances from special, Serral, trap and TY if he can make it
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Only a few days to get from Korea to California? The jet lag is gonna suck.
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