• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:35
CET 17:35
KST 01:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises0Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced! What's the best tug of war?
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
What are former legends up to these days? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion How soO Began His ProGaming Dreams Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Has Anyone Tried Kamagra Chewable for ED? 12 Days of Starcraft The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Saturation point
Uldridge
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1356 users

IEM Katowice 2019: RO24 Group Stage Preview - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
28 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
Xophy
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany79 Posts
February 28 2019 08:36 GMT
#21
On February 28 2019 12:23 droppanda wrote:
Great write up. However, I wouldn’t say Neeb and trap lead for third place. I know leenock hasn’t been in form for a long time, but I would give his experience and tenacity an edge over both these players in extremely competitive high stakes game.


Normally, I would agree with you ... However, the Artosis curse is still strong
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
February 28 2019 09:06 GMT
#22
I believe Zest, Special and coinflip will advance form group A.

Maru, Dark and Trap form group B

Serral/Rogue and Gumiho from C. I think Gumis special terran style will overcome Serral, especially since Serral doesn't play on the korean ladder and probably has limited experience with Gumis style executed at the level that he does it.

TY, soO and then it will be really close between Scarlett and Dear!

Hoping soO, Maru or Serral win this whole thing =D
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-28 09:21:43
February 28 2019 09:13 GMT
#23
On February 28 2019 18:06 Shuffleblade wrote:
I believe Zest, Special and coinflip will advance form group A.

Maru, Dark and Trap form group B

Serral/Rogue and Gumiho from C. I think Gumis special terran style will overcome Serral, especially since Serral doesn't play on the korean ladder and probably has limited experience with Gumis style executed at the level that he does it.

TY, soO and then it will be really close between Scarlett and Dear!

Hoping soO, Maru or Serral win this whole thing =D


uthermal was the one that pioneered the new style of battle mech at HSC, and Serral was specifically asked about it during an interview. Gumiho will probably do something non-standard in any case, but if he goes for battle mech it won't be a surprise for the viewers or Serral.

Also I'd argue that regular mech is actually stronger than battle mech, just not as exciting to watch.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7021 Posts
February 28 2019 09:27 GMT
#24
On February 28 2019 18:13 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 18:06 Shuffleblade wrote:
I believe Zest, Special and coinflip will advance form group A.

Maru, Dark and Trap form group B

Serral/Rogue and Gumiho from C. I think Gumis special terran style will overcome Serral, especially since Serral doesn't play on the korean ladder and probably has limited experience with Gumis style executed at the level that he does it.

TY, soO and then it will be really close between Scarlett and Dear!

Hoping soO, Maru or Serral win this whole thing =D


uthermal was the one that pioneered the new style of battle mech at HSC, and Serral was specifically asked about it during an interview. Gumiho will probably do something non-standard in any case, but if he goes for battle mech it won't be a surprise for the viewers or Serral.

Also I'd argue that regular mech is actually stronger than battle mech, just not as exciting to watch.


I imagine Serral had a good long talk with Reynor on Gumiho. Reynor just let it get out of hand, Serral won't make that mistake (i hope)
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
February 28 2019 09:59 GMT
#25
On February 28 2019 18:13 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 18:06 Shuffleblade wrote:
I believe Zest, Special and coinflip will advance form group A.

Maru, Dark and Trap form group B

Serral/Rogue and Gumiho from C. I think Gumis special terran style will overcome Serral, especially since Serral doesn't play on the korean ladder and probably has limited experience with Gumis style executed at the level that he does it.

TY, soO and then it will be really close between Scarlett and Dear!

Hoping soO, Maru or Serral win this whole thing =D


uthermal was the one that pioneered the new style of battle mech at HSC, and Serral was specifically asked about it during an interview. Gumiho will probably do something non-standard in any case, but if he goes for battle mech it won't be a surprise for the viewers or Serral.

Also I'd argue that regular mech is actually stronger than battle mech, just not as exciting to watch.

Battlemech is a surprise to no one that is true however Gumiho is actually playing like Gumigod right now. The level of play Gumi showed in his games vs Reynor were S+ class, never been much of a fan of his but I was in awe during those games.

I very much doubt Uthermal plays at the same level as Gumiho and I also think that its not only a question of normal mech, bio or battlemech play the question is also what is the build to get there. Serral might be surprised, if not by the build then by the execution. Maru has killed world class players with standard builds over and over, not because its a surprise in itself but because of how surprising the execution and macro behind it is.

Just genuinely impressed by Gumiho and hyped for his games!
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
herwo
Profile Joined January 2019
199 Posts
February 28 2019 10:00 GMT
#26
On February 28 2019 18:06 Shuffleblade wrote:
I believe Zest, Special and coinflip will advance form group A.

Maru, Dark and Trap form group B

Serral/Rogue and Gumiho from C. I think Gumis special terran style will overcome Serral, especially since Serral doesn't play on the korean ladder and probably has limited experience with Gumis style executed at the level that he does it.

TY, soO and then it will be really close between Scarlett and Dear!

Hoping soO, Maru or Serral win this whole thing =D


serral does play on the korean ladder, and i doubt gumiho's gimmicks can keep up with serral's mechanics
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-28 10:36:05
February 28 2019 10:35 GMT
#27
On February 28 2019 18:59 Shuffleblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 18:13 pvsnp wrote:
On February 28 2019 18:06 Shuffleblade wrote:
I believe Zest, Special and coinflip will advance form group A.

Maru, Dark and Trap form group B

Serral/Rogue and Gumiho from C. I think Gumis special terran style will overcome Serral, especially since Serral doesn't play on the korean ladder and probably has limited experience with Gumis style executed at the level that he does it.

TY, soO and then it will be really close between Scarlett and Dear!

Hoping soO, Maru or Serral win this whole thing =D


uthermal was the one that pioneered the new style of battle mech at HSC, and Serral was specifically asked about it during an interview. Gumiho will probably do something non-standard in any case, but if he goes for battle mech it won't be a surprise for the viewers or Serral.

Also I'd argue that regular mech is actually stronger than battle mech, just not as exciting to watch.

Battlemech is a surprise to no one that is true however Gumiho is actually playing like Gumigod right now. The level of play Gumi showed in his games vs Reynor were S+ class, never been much of a fan of his but I was in awe during those games.

I very much doubt Uthermal plays at the same level as Gumiho and I also think that its not only a question of normal mech, bio or battlemech play the question is also what is the build to get there. Serral might be surprised, if not by the build then by the execution. Maru has killed world class players with standard builds over and over, not because its a surprise in itself but because of how surprising the execution and macro behind it is.

Just genuinely impressed by Gumiho and hyped for his games!


If you say so.

I thought Gumiho was playing solidly but not spectacularly, and I'd be surprised to see Serral lose to him. Rogue and Inno have a much better chance of beating Serral imo, simply because Gumiho can't remotely match Serral's mechanics whereas guys like Rogue and Inno can at least keep up mechanically.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7021 Posts
February 28 2019 10:43 GMT
#28
About to start!!! HYYYYYPEEEEEE

It seems my workday is over now. Sorry boss
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
easyway6
Profile Joined November 2015
8 Posts
February 28 2019 12:10 GMT
#29
Group A SpeCial, Zest, Stats
Group B Neeb, Dark, Maru
Group C Serral, INnoVation, Rogue
Group D Bunny, TY, Soo

Respects to all the other players. this is so stacked. long live Sc2
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 55m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko484
Livibee 196
Harstem 184
SC2Nice 40
trigger 37
UpATreeSC 23
RushiSC 22
DivinesiaTV 16
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 1661
Soma 903
Mini 866
Stork 745
Larva 600
Snow 272
ZerO 236
Aegong 190
Rush 189
Sharp 164
[ Show more ]
BeSt 115
Barracks 115
sorry 74
Hyun 72
EffOrt 70
Shuttle 67
910 46
Mind 33
JYJ 27
ToSsGirL 25
soO 25
Terrorterran 19
Sexy 17
Shine 16
Movie 15
eros_byul 0
Dota 2
qojqva2793
Dendi775
syndereN464
420jenkins371
Counter-Strike
allub254
edward125
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor126
Other Games
Grubby4922
singsing2086
hiko972
Mlord450
FrodaN410
B2W.Neo383
Hui .360
Fuzer 349
RotterdaM206
Liquid`VortiX156
ArmadaUGS152
QueenE112
BRAT_OK 56
Mew2King52
Trikslyr32
ZerO(Twitch)17
MindelVK11
Organizations
Other Games
WardiTV732
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 48
• naamasc236
• poizon28 26
• Adnapsc2 3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV575
• lizZardDota264
Upcoming Events
RotterdaM Event
55m
OSC
19h 25m
Solar vs MaxPax
ByuN vs Krystianer
Spirit vs TBD
OSC
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
OSC
4 days
OSC
5 days
OSC
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W2
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.