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Full WCS Circuit 2019 Announced - Page 4

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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
February 07 2019 00:45 GMT
#61
On February 07 2019 07:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I had hoped to make it out to Austin again some time for another Dreamhack, sad to see that one go.

Maybe Montreal though

DH actually moved their Austin event to Dallas this year because they needed a bigger convention center. I was hoping to do that one but it looks like Montreal is the only option and that's an over 5 hour direct flight. NA is too fat
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Herbert West
Profile Joined July 2018
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-07 02:08:37
February 07 2019 02:02 GMT
#62
On February 07 2019 03:35 Elentos wrote:

Well, that would be unfortunate.

"Region lock" for russian players. And viewers too.
Kafka777
Profile Joined December 2015
361 Posts
February 07 2019 02:11 GMT
#63
Their stock is extreamly expensive, probably 5x the real value, even though it dropped significantly. They are managing the company like fools. This iteration of management just gives more reason to believe they are idiots, young people withoiut experiance, Im extreamly saddened by all this. These decisions are very poor. Blizzard, philosophy, rules, milestones. Integrity, does this ring any bells anything anywhere.Where are you going.

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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-07 04:00:59
February 07 2019 04:00 GMT
#64
Sucks that Dreamhack Dallas won't be having a WCS Circuit event since I'll be in town then, but I hope it doesn't mean they'll completely exclude SC2 or any other Blizzard game.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 07 2019 04:35 GMT
#65
I have to say I'm not sure how Starcraft only event will turn out, multi game even tend to be more hype, but I'm sure Star ladder will make good work on it.
Also I hope they will allow Russian player to play online in those Kiev events if they can't go in persons.
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blunderfulguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2016
United States1415 Posts
February 07 2019 05:00 GMT
#66
Hmm, okay, okay... Kinda bummed Dreamhack won't be having StarCraft anymore but I wouldn't have been able to attend this year anyway, and 1080p streams and potentially better production sounds alright.

What a mess with Challenger, Winter, GSL and the player rules changes-but-oops-never-mind. Glad they seem to understand it was a huge mess that should never have happened, fingers crossed that they learn from it.

The year so far (I know it's barely been more than a month) has been filled with so much confusion over rules and new events, I'm getting the feeling it'll be a rollercoaster for the rest of it. Hopefully not, hopefully the only thing I get confused about is thinking Dreamhack = StarCraft or being awful at a new map or something trivial...
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Cluster__
Profile Joined September 2013
United States328 Posts
February 07 2019 05:30 GMT
#67
Please just have 1 event in the bay area
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 07 2019 07:02 GMT
#68
On February 07 2019 14:30 Cluster__ wrote:
Please just have 1 event in the bay area


Don't you have Blizzcon every year just around the corner?
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PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
February 07 2019 07:47 GMT
#69
On February 07 2019 06:58 youngjiddle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2019 04:51 ThxSub~ wrote:
Surprised that everyone is so negative in here. I for one am glad that this year will continue at all. Considering the state that Blizzard seems to be in right now, I was already preparing myself for a cancel of the rest of the year.


If we say we are happy we are essentially telling blizzard that they can get away with cutting our program.

It's like taking a pay cut, we are a union and we can't let it happen


Prizepool is the same? So they essentially took the cut else where to keep the money for the players.. so idk?
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Rail_sc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Russian Federation205 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-07 09:10:34
February 07 2019 09:04 GMT
#70
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DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-07 09:09:52
February 07 2019 09:09 GMT
#71
On February 07 2019 03:16 Musicus wrote:

Residency Requirements

"We tested a rule change for players competing in Season 1 of GSL, restricting them from participating in Season 1 of WCS Challenger. Our goal was to limit the number of WCS Circuit players who would compete in the Korean tournament, but instead it caused all but one of the registered Circuit players to pull out of the GSL competition. That was not our intention, and we are rolling back this rule for Season 2 and 3, bringing the residency rules back to as they were in 2018."

So when something Blizzard does actually works it irritates them so much the just roll it back?
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6997 Posts
February 07 2019 10:20 GMT
#72
On February 07 2019 04:40 Charoisaur wrote:
So koreans stealing foreign money is bad but foreigners stealing korean money is good? What's the difference between this region-lock and the WCS region-lock? That foreigners benefit from one and koreans benefit from the other but koreans aren't supposed to benefit from the system??


It sucks for the players but from a marketing point of view I can understand this decision. Foreigner in GSL will skyrocket viewernumbers for GSL but Koreans in WCS will not. I doubt many Koreans would watch WCS and most other ppl who would, watch it anyway. I don't have numbers to back this, just a guess.
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fronkschnonk
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany622 Posts
February 07 2019 10:52 GMT
#73
On February 07 2019 03:27 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2019 03:16 Musicus wrote:
"We tested a rule change for players competing in Season 1 of GSL, restricting them from participating in Season 1 of WCS Challenger. Our goal was to limit the number of WCS Circuit players who would compete in the Korean tournament, but instead it caused all but one of the registered Circuit players to pull out of the GSL competition. That was not our intention, and we are rolling back this rule for Season 2 and 3, bringing the residency rules back to as they were in 2018."


I don't understand this part. The goal was to limit the number of WCS Circuit players in GSL, but instead it limited the number of WCS players in GSL? Didn't it do what it set out to accomplish? So now they're reverting back to 2018 rules? I guess the Unity house survives.

They worded it badly but their intention obviously was to make foreigners either fully commit to GSL or only play WCS. They didn't want almost everyone to choose only one of the two options.
Furthermore, I consider that some kind of Code A must be reestablished.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
February 07 2019 12:12 GMT
#74
On February 07 2019 19:52 fronkschnonk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2019 03:27 argonautdice wrote:
On February 07 2019 03:16 Musicus wrote:
"We tested a rule change for players competing in Season 1 of GSL, restricting them from participating in Season 1 of WCS Challenger. Our goal was to limit the number of WCS Circuit players who would compete in the Korean tournament, but instead it caused all but one of the registered Circuit players to pull out of the GSL competition. That was not our intention, and we are rolling back this rule for Season 2 and 3, bringing the residency rules back to as they were in 2018."


I don't understand this part. The goal was to limit the number of WCS Circuit players in GSL, but instead it limited the number of WCS players in GSL? Didn't it do what it set out to accomplish? So now they're reverting back to 2018 rules? I guess the Unity house survives.

They worded it badly but their intention obviously was to make foreigners either fully commit to GSL or only play WCS. They didn't want almost everyone to choose only one of the two options.

And what they expected? When you have to choose the easy way or the hard way not that many players will choose the hard way...
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Rob-Zero
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany460 Posts
February 07 2019 12:18 GMT
#75
Always the same, most of the guys here complaining and nitpicking, so sad. A lot are even complaining about Kiev already even though the events didn´t even happen. Maybe just let them show what they got? I´m sure they can do a good job, and it´s not like WCS was always at four different locations.
I´m quite happy with the announcement. The full season is safe and confirmed now, the prize pool did not change, there are as many events as last year, now everything is set for another great year of SC2.
Please calm down a bit guys, lay back and try to enjoy your favourite esport. It´s really not that bad of a situation.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
February 07 2019 12:25 GMT
#76
On February 07 2019 21:18 Rob-Zero wrote:
Always the same, most of the guys here complaining and nitpicking, so sad. A lot are even complaining about Kiev already even though the events didn´t even happen. Maybe just let them show what they got? I´m sure they can do a good job, and it´s not like WCS was always at four different locations.
I´m quite happy with the announcement. The full season is safe and confirmed now, the prize pool did not change, there are as many events as last year, now everything is set for another great year of SC2.
Please calm down a bit guys, lay back and try to enjoy your favourite esport. It´s really not that bad of a situation.

People are complaining that for 2 WCS events they banned Russian males in fighting age. I didn't see any other complaints.

And yeah, people are complaining that foreigners can steal Korean money from S2 again. Yay?
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Rob-Zero
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany460 Posts
February 07 2019 12:46 GMT
#77
On February 07 2019 21:25 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2019 21:18 Rob-Zero wrote:
Always the same, most of the guys here complaining and nitpicking, so sad. A lot are even complaining about Kiev already even though the events didn´t even happen. Maybe just let them show what they got? I´m sure they can do a good job, and it´s not like WCS was always at four different locations.
I´m quite happy with the announcement. The full season is safe and confirmed now, the prize pool did not change, there are as many events as last year, now everything is set for another great year of SC2.
Please calm down a bit guys, lay back and try to enjoy your favourite esport. It´s really not that bad of a situation.

People are complaining that for 2 WCS events they banned Russian males in fighting age. I didn't see any other complaints.

And yeah, people are complaining that foreigners can steal Korean money from S2 again. Yay?


Yay. As i said, people are just complaining, so sad. Thanks for your support.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16017 Posts
February 07 2019 23:06 GMT
#78
On February 07 2019 19:20 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2019 04:40 Charoisaur wrote:
So koreans stealing foreign money is bad but foreigners stealing korean money is good? What's the difference between this region-lock and the WCS region-lock? That foreigners benefit from one and koreans benefit from the other but koreans aren't supposed to benefit from the system??


It sucks for the players but from a marketing point of view I can understand this decision. Foreigner in GSL will skyrocket viewernumbers for GSL but Koreans in WCS will not. I doubt many Koreans would watch WCS and most other ppl who would, watch it anyway. I don't have numbers to back this, just a guess.

Are you sure? I think quite a few people would watch WCS if Maru plays there who otherwise wouldn't watch WCS. Global events always have higher viewership than foreign only events.
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TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
February 07 2019 23:07 GMT
#79
Am I the only one excited by this?
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
February 07 2019 23:08 GMT
#80
I’m super happy that Montreal is back
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