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Stats: Eclipsed No More - Road to BlizzCon 2018 (#8)

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Stats: Eclipsed No More - Road to BlizzCon 2018 (#8)

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October 17th, 2018 16:15 GMT
Photo: Helena Kristiansson (via Blizzard)
Stats
Kim Dae Yeob
Splyce

Eclipsed No More

by CosmicSpiral


Out of all the players who evoke pity upon hearing their pseudonym, Stats ranks near the bottom of the list. If you want to shed tears upon reading his oeuvre, best reserve them for boredom...or envy. The GSL and SSL champion enjoys a privileged career that would even make his peers turn green. Stats is physically unmarred by injury and bereft of misfortune. Unlike a few unmentionable pariahs his achievements are scandal-free; the former ChinToss has successfully dodged hubris and appears committed to staying on bad terms with it into the future. With the exception of his sluggish entrance into SC2, he never succumbed to inertia like certain promising Protosses we’ll refrain from naming (starter Pokemon included). Stats’ placid countenance masks his refusal to let the metagame—or any other outside force—determine his fate. Whenever PvZ devolved into agonizing wars of attrition or PvT was rebranded as Russian roulette, proxy version, he doggedly pushed forward while his contemporaries stumbled. Bad performances, such as IEM Katowice this year, run off him like rain on a windshield.

Even in 2018, an unambiguous downturn from 2017, Stats coasted to a comfortable third place finish in the Korean WCS standings. Maru's historic rampage throughout the year created a power vacuum where any high placements were worth their weight in gold. Between 2 second place finishes and winning the first Super Tournament, Stats was only bested by Classic (riding off a last-minute win of GSL Super Tournament 2) at the end of the year.

His nascent steps were anything but smooth though. At the beginning of the year, Stats hardly looked like a powerhouse. Nothing in his gameplay indicated discernible flaws, but almost all his wins were born from craftiness rather than consistently superior decision-making. In particular he struggled to come out of the gate strong in BO5+ series. His journey throughout GSL Season 1 was as tenuous and nail biting as skinny dipping in the Amazon river. Both playoff affairs against Classic and soO went down to the wire, requiring monumental comebacks from the brink of elimination. When it came time to battle Maru in the finals, Stats had exhausted his bag of tricks. His foe controlled the rhythm of the series from beginning to end. Some feckless attempts at proxy play only highlighted how flummoxed he was in the face of Maru’s aggression.

Rank


#3
Korea Standings

WCS Points


6825

2018 Season Stats*


111–63 (63.79%) vs. Terran
128-76 (62.75%) vs. Protoss
100–81 (55.25%) vs. Zerg
*Via Aligulac.com. Matches between 2017-11-15 and 2018-10-16.

Déjà vu almost struck again at the Super Tournament finals. After discarding ByuN, Solar, and herO, Stats found himself disconcertingly outmaneuvered versus Dark. The Zerg mastermind took a page from Maru’s book with his emphasis on early-game timings, punishing listless scouting with proxy hatchery and baneling bust shenanigans. Once again Stats found himself at a 3-1 deficit with little recourse other than seasoned nerves and an indefatigable will. This time those traits proved to be sufficient...with a little help from Dark’s stubborn lack of tech transitions. Stats claimed the trophy by the skin of his teeth—hardly a comforting win, but reassurance he still belonged at the top.

At first GSL vs. The World was a welcome relief from the stress that characterized the first half of the year. Providence gifted him an easy road to the semifinals. Stats bowled over Cyan in the most egregious mismatch of the RO16, winning each team fight in foul or fair conditions. SpeCial offered slightly more resistance. He managed to force a base trade in the second game that eventually petered out thanks to Stats’ superior economy. Sadly that was the acme of his performance.

After running through some flimsy fences, Stats confronted the Great Wall himself at full speed. Maru, who had claimed two consecutive Code S titles and his opponent’s head earlier this year, looked in top form against ShoWTimE in the last round. Commentators and analysts anticipated a reiteration of the dynamic that played out in the GSL Season 1 finals. Maru would ruthlessly seek to exploit the smallest cracks in Stats’ early game while Stats gamely deflected all pressure until the midgame.

The question of clashing playstyles turned out to be moot. Far from resigning himself to being the defender in every game, Stats flipped the script and bullied Maru around in the midgame with surprising vigor. With the exception of a brutal medivac timing on the second map, Stats executed the same formula in every win: he bided his time for a specific confluence of events—3 colossi, Thermal Lance, and +2 attack—then blitzed Maru’s fourth before he could amass a critical number of liberators. It didn’t matter if Maru backstabbed him during the move out (Acid Plant) or if he managed to wipe out the core of the intruding force (Catalyst). It was a clinical dissection that made the GSL champion look shockingly impotent.

Finally, Stats demonstrated he could rise heads and shoulders above the field when occasion demanded it. His lambasting of Maru certainly raised his stock for the finals. Against Serral, the ne plus ultra of Western Zerg, Stats commenced the finals with alarming celerity. An archon-zealot all-in followed by a cannon rush ensured a quick 2-0 in his favor. But once Serral regained his bearings, he made the macro games look lopsided in his favor; twice he caught Stats flatfooted with devastating tech switches to spire. This back and forth exchange of strategies led to the standout game of the night. 16-Bit showcased Stats’ famous defense against Serral’s excellent macro and on-the-fly thinking. Unlike the last two games he rebuffed the roach-hydra pokes, parried the muta transition, and fended off the late lurker offensive to eke out victory. One game away from the trophy he switched back on standard play on Lost and Found. Perhaps the adrenaline-fueled win lulled him into a sense of false security, for Serral overwhelmed him with a powerful ling-bane midgame. Soon after the Finnish Zerg delivered the finishing blow with a roach-queen all-in on Dreamcatcher.




GSL vs. The World encapsulated everything that makes Stats great. He is adept at synthesizing various builds from other players’ repertoires into his bank; he knows how to exploit his reputation as a passive player to turn high risk, high reward tactics into guaranteed wins. A poor result in a previous tournament is an absolutely meaningless indicator—the tireless Stats is bound to show up prime form again.

And yet Stats evinces an apprehension and doubt befitting a declining star instead of one at his zenith. Whenever he matches against the cream of the crop, he is treated as the underdog. Discussion is laced with equivocation and pussyfooting of the highest order. Here's the sum of every cliché spoken of Stats on an analysis desk, internet forum, or Twitch chat: “He's is a respectable opponent, so he’ll make this a tough series”. Why is the Protoss with the most finals appearances in LotV a horse experts only begrudgingly bet on? MC, Rain, and PartinG all stoked more enthusiasm and confidence in their abilities when they occupied the limelight.

The reasoning is instinctive and deplorably accurate. For all the platitudes deservedly heaped upon him over the years, Stats has never established a period of dominance around his tournament victories. His career is one of scattered triumphs, sharp peaks briefly jutting out of a plateau. All his championships are interspersed between 6-7 month intervals without accompanying wins at foreign events or smaller local tournaments. Every memorable champion, from Mvp to PartinG to INnoVation to Maru this year, used their initial victory as a springboard to propel them to additional ones. However protracted the length of said period, they were unequivocally considered the best in the world. Meanwhile Stats’ moments of triumph evaporate as soon as they materialize.

All of these have been hard-fought wins that invite suspicion. Out of his four championships, three of them were earned at the expense of Dark, who is now widely expected to collapse at the finish line. The sole exception to this dance was soO, the most notorious Kong to ever climb the GSL tower. During both his 2017 championship runs Stats was never heralded as the absolute best player. Classic ran neck and neck with him during the SSL group stage and despite accruing the best overall record, he was still considered the runner-up to Dark among the desk. Stats looked quite mortal on the road to his GSL trophy as well. He scraped by INnoVation after an ugly 0-2 start only to face Ryung, instead of Maru, in the semis. To echo Tacitus’ wry observation of Galba, he seemed worthy of the throne of emperor—until he was forced to actually hold it.

In the never-ending struggle to carve out a legacy, Stats is still waiting for that tournament win. Five years of sweat and toil has not prevented the moment of genius from eluding him again and again. As the culmination of the WCS circuit, BlizzCon is the ideal catalyst to push Stats past his invisible ceiling. Only the best of the best will be in attendance, guaranteeing his road will be respectable. There will be plenty of opportunity to demolish old adversaries who have hindered him in the past. Most importantly, Stats can secure a decisive triumph that will change his reputation once and for all. No longer will he be pigeonholed as the Shield of Aiur, the connoisseur of close calls. BlizzCon is where Stats will attempt to be more than Rain's epigone. A player of Stats’ caliber will strive to be his better.







Writer: CosmicSpiral
Editors: Wax
Photos: Carlton Beener, Blizzard, ESL, Leimmia, Bart Oerbekke, Helena Kristiansson
Graphics: 3StrakGames
Statistics: Aligulac
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-17 16:32:24
October 17 2018 16:27 GMT
#2
Both his GSL finals run and Super Tournament win are more impressive than his GSL vs the World run.

His win at supertournament has to be the most unappreciated championship of the year. Literally no one ever mentions it.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13975 Posts
October 17 2018 16:38 GMT
#3
Stats is the most underrated player in a long ass time
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ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
October 17 2018 16:57 GMT
#4
The stats never lie. As a famous shitposter once said, "I wouldn't be surprised" if Stats won Blizzcon.
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
October 17 2018 17:06 GMT
#5
I think he will at least make semi finals
ElPres1dente
Profile Joined February 2016
89 Posts
October 17 2018 17:13 GMT
#6
Blizzcon 2016 hype
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
October 17 2018 17:14 GMT
#7
If Stats outright wins the whole thing, I wouldn't be too surprised.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 17 2018 17:15 GMT
#8
On October 18 2018 01:57 ArtyK wrote:
The stats never lie. As a famous shitposter once said, "I wouldn't be surprised" if Stats won Blizzcon.


On October 18 2018 02:14 Musicus wrote:
If Stats outright wins the whole thing, I wouldn't be too surprised.


I would be mildly surprised if he won blizzcon
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-17 17:20:11
October 17 2018 17:18 GMT
#9
I feel like Stats and Classic enter the tournament in pretty much the same spot, as player who could very much win the whole things but will be expected to lose every series pass group stage.
On October 18 2018 02:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2018 01:57 ArtyK wrote:
The stats never lie. As a famous shitposter once said, "I wouldn't be surprised" if Stats won Blizzcon.


Show nested quote +
On October 18 2018 02:14 Musicus wrote:
If Stats outright wins the whole thing, I wouldn't be too surprised.


I would be mildly surprised if he won blizzcon


Well that's because your only a mildly famous shitposter.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
October 17 2018 17:21 GMT
#10
On October 18 2018 01:57 ArtyK wrote:
The stats never lie. As a famous shitposter once said, "I wouldn't be surprised" if Stats won Blizzcon.

He's not that famous tbh.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13975 Posts
October 17 2018 17:21 GMT
#11
On October 18 2018 02:18 Nakajin wrote:
I feel like Stats and Classic enter the tournament in pretty much the same spot, as player who could very much win the whole things but will be expected to lose every series pass group stage.
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2018 02:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 18 2018 01:57 ArtyK wrote:
The stats never lie. As a famous shitposter once said, "I wouldn't be surprised" if Stats won Blizzcon.


On October 18 2018 02:14 Musicus wrote:
If Stats outright wins the whole thing, I wouldn't be too surprised.


I would be mildly surprised if he won blizzcon


Well that's because your only a mildly famous shitposter.
JK

It's especially strange as Stats has a better chance than anyone else to take out Maru and Serral.
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
October 17 2018 17:23 GMT
#12
It'd be nice to see him win Blizzcon
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 17 2018 17:32 GMT
#13
Looks like we're going back in time
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 17 2018 17:42 GMT
#14
On October 18 2018 02:18 Nakajin wrote:
I feel like Stats and Classic enter the tournament in pretty much the same spot, as player who could very much win the whole things but will be expected to lose every series pass group stage.
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2018 02:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 18 2018 01:57 ArtyK wrote:
The stats never lie. As a famous shitposter once said, "I wouldn't be surprised" if Stats won Blizzcon.


On October 18 2018 02:14 Musicus wrote:
If Stats outright wins the whole thing, I wouldn't be too surprised.


I would be mildly surprised if he won blizzcon


Well that's because your only a mildly famous shitposter.
JK

I never claimed otherwise :D


Good article though, well written and on point. One of the best so far
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Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
October 17 2018 17:49 GMT
#15
Why is the featured video on this piece a match that Stats lost? Why not one of his many brilliant victories? It's not even like that tournament was a missed opportunity to assert his legacy. Winning GSL vs The World would have done next to nothing for him.

Stats isn't even underrated. He's considered as the best protoss along with Classic. Serral beating Stats was considered a massive upset; it feels like the writer doesn't think highly of Stats.
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Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
October 17 2018 18:04 GMT
#16
On October 18 2018 02:49 Rodya wrote:
Why is the featured video on this piece a match that Stats lost? Why not one of his many brilliant victories? It's not even like that tournament was a missed opportunity to assert his legacy. Winning GSL vs The World would have done next to nothing for him.

Stats isn't even underrated. He's considered as the best protoss along with Classic. Serral beating Stats was considered a massive upset; it feels like the writer doesn't think highly of Stats.


Yeah but teamliquid, as acknowledged in this piece, consistently underrate Stats.
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
October 17 2018 18:10 GMT
#17
On October 18 2018 02:21 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2018 01:57 ArtyK wrote:
The stats never lie. As a famous shitposter once said, "I wouldn't be surprised" if Stats won Blizzcon.

He's not that famous tbh.


He is in our hearts
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
October 17 2018 18:22 GMT
#18
On October 18 2018 03:10 ArtyK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2018 02:21 Elentos wrote:
On October 18 2018 01:57 ArtyK wrote:
The stats never lie. As a famous shitposter once said, "I wouldn't be surprised" if Stats won Blizzcon.

He's not that famous tbh.


He is in our hearts


He's a true legend never to be forgotten for all eternity... We are all talking about the great Philosopher king YokoKano right?

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Seriously tho I don't have a clue who you guys are talking about, I'm guessing Lorning or Seeker?
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4950 Posts
October 17 2018 19:26 GMT
#19
I wouldn't be surprised if Stats wins Blizzcon.
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Toua
Profile Joined February 2017
Denmark318 Posts
October 17 2018 19:29 GMT
#20
Rooting for Stats alongside Dark.
Stats is also the most hilarious progamer atleast for me, such a awesome dude
Stats, Dark, Maru <3
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12888 Posts
October 17 2018 19:34 GMT
#21
On October 18 2018 02:49 Rodya wrote:
Why is the featured video on this piece a match that Stats lost? Why not one of his many brilliant victories? It's not even like that tournament was a missed opportunity to assert his legacy. Winning GSL vs The World would have done next to nothing for him.

Stats isn't even underrated. He's considered as the best protoss along with Classic. Serral beating Stats was considered a massive upset; it feels like the writer doesn't think highly of Stats.

It wasn’t a massive upset, a lot of people liquidbetted it (I did so I could see I didn’t gain much places after Serral victory).
Stats is one of the best Protosses as always but Serral was top 3 Zerg world after his runs at the time.
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ToToRo87
Profile Joined June 2011
Greece8 Posts
October 17 2018 19:52 GMT
#22
Aside from that wild "Nerchio" that popped on the link in the main page, very well written!

Rooting for Stats atm, will be happy to see a Toss player besides $o$ win Blizzcon. One of the most stable players out there.
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
October 17 2018 20:12 GMT
#23
Dream Blizzcon scenario: Stats beats Maru in the semi and revenge on Serral in the finals.
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
October 17 2018 20:15 GMT
#24
I have to agree that Stats is pretty underrated. I think it can fairly be said that Stats is the greatest LotV player. Also, I hope him and Dark go far in Blizzcon; they quietly have a really good rivalry.
Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
October 17 2018 20:46 GMT
#25
On October 18 2018 02:49 Rodya wrote:
Why is the featured video on this piece a match that Stats lost? Why not one of his many brilliant victories? It's not even like that tournament was a missed opportunity to assert his legacy. Winning GSL vs The World would have done next to nothing for him.

Stats isn't even underrated. He's considered as the best protoss along with Classic. Serral beating Stats was considered a massive upset; it feels like the writer doesn't think highly of Stats.

I think they picked it because GSL v World is basically the mini-Blizzcon. It's one of the only opportunities to pit the best foreigners against best Koreans in the year now - also I would argue that if Stats could claim to be the only player that Serral couldn't beat in 2018, that would indeed have helped him assert his legacy. Instead he remains one of a long list of Koreans that Serral has bested this year.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4950 Posts
October 17 2018 21:12 GMT
#26
On October 18 2018 05:46 Dave4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2018 02:49 Rodya wrote:
Why is the featured video on this piece a match that Stats lost? Why not one of his many brilliant victories? It's not even like that tournament was a missed opportunity to assert his legacy. Winning GSL vs The World would have done next to nothing for him.

Stats isn't even underrated. He's considered as the best protoss along with Classic. Serral beating Stats was considered a massive upset; it feels like the writer doesn't think highly of Stats.

I think they picked it because GSL v World is basically the mini-Blizzcon. It's one of the only opportunities to pit the best foreigners against best Koreans in the year now - also I would argue that if Stats could claim to be the only player that Serral couldn't beat in 2018, that would indeed have helped him assert his legacy. Instead he remains one of a long list of Koreans that Serral has bested this year.



It is not that long, INno Dark and Stats.
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Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-17 22:12:02
October 17 2018 22:08 GMT
#27
On October 18 2018 06:12 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2018 05:46 Dave4 wrote:
On October 18 2018 02:49 Rodya wrote:
Why is the featured video on this piece a match that Stats lost? Why not one of his many brilliant victories? It's not even like that tournament was a missed opportunity to assert his legacy. Winning GSL vs The World would have done next to nothing for him.

Stats isn't even underrated. He's considered as the best protoss along with Classic. Serral beating Stats was considered a massive upset; it feels like the writer doesn't think highly of Stats.

I think they picked it because GSL v World is basically the mini-Blizzcon. It's one of the only opportunities to pit the best foreigners against best Koreans in the year now - also I would argue that if Stats could claim to be the only player that Serral couldn't beat in 2018, that would indeed have helped him assert his legacy. Instead he remains one of a long list of Koreans that Serral has bested this year.



It is not that long, INno Dark and Stats.

Bit longer than that.
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RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
October 17 2018 23:07 GMT
#28
Go go Stats!
Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
October 17 2018 23:18 GMT
#29
Serral won 27/44 of his offline games against Koreans this year. That's impressive but players like Maru, TY, Rogue and Classic all have similar win-rates, but over a larger amount of games. So I can't really see why one would think he is the best in the world at least quantitatively. If I had to say, I think he is probably like the 4th or 5th best player in the world at the moment but I think saying he is 2nd best is fair.
SootShade
Profile Joined October 2018
31 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-17 23:36:53
October 17 2018 23:36 GMT
#30
I feel like the author of this piece is getting his framing from some time in the past. I've viewed Stats as a top contender for every tournament he participates in for ages; not the top contender all that often, but if whoever is being hyped up fails to deliver then it's a fair bet that Stats is right there to pick up a win.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37029 Posts
October 17 2018 23:39 GMT
#31
On October 18 2018 03:22 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2018 03:10 ArtyK wrote:
On October 18 2018 02:21 Elentos wrote:
On October 18 2018 01:57 ArtyK wrote:
The stats never lie. As a famous shitposter once said, "I wouldn't be surprised" if Stats won Blizzcon.

He's not that famous tbh.


He is in our hearts


He's a true legend never to be forgotten for all eternity... We are all talking about the great Philosopher king YokoKano right?

+ Show Spoiler +
Seriously tho I don't have a clue who you guys are talking about, I'm guessing Lorning or Seeker?

Why the fuck is my name in there?
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Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
October 17 2018 23:43 GMT
#32
Stats is a beast, shame on the haters.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
October 17 2018 23:52 GMT
#33
On October 18 2018 08:39 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2018 03:22 Nakajin wrote:
On October 18 2018 03:10 ArtyK wrote:
On October 18 2018 02:21 Elentos wrote:
On October 18 2018 01:57 ArtyK wrote:
The stats never lie. As a famous shitposter once said, "I wouldn't be surprised" if Stats won Blizzcon.

He's not that famous tbh.


He is in our hearts


He's a true legend never to be forgotten for all eternity... We are all talking about the great Philosopher king YokoKano right?

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Seriously tho I don't have a clue who you guys are talking about, I'm guessing Lorning or Seeker?

Why the fuck is my name in there?


cause y'a famous
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October 18 2018 00:22 GMT
#34
On October 18 2018 08:52 Nakajin wrote:
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On October 18 2018 08:39 Seeker wrote:
On October 18 2018 03:22 Nakajin wrote:
On October 18 2018 03:10 ArtyK wrote:
On October 18 2018 02:21 Elentos wrote:
On October 18 2018 01:57 ArtyK wrote:
The stats never lie. As a famous shitposter once said, "I wouldn't be surprised" if Stats won Blizzcon.

He's not that famous tbh.


He is in our hearts


He's a true legend never to be forgotten for all eternity... We are all talking about the great Philosopher king YokoKano right?

+ Show Spoiler +
Seriously tho I don't have a clue who you guys are talking about, I'm guessing Lorning or Seeker?

Why the fuck is my name in there?


cause y'a famous

Ya damn right I am
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Jimmon
Profile Joined May 2011
United States112 Posts
October 19 2018 17:02 GMT
#35
STATS WINS BLIZZCON<3 LETS GO OG CHIN TOSS
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VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3614 Posts
October 19 2018 21:39 GMT
#36
Stats is basically the Stork of SC2.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10081 Posts
October 24 2018 22:18 GMT
#37
i know he is really good but i dont see him winning it all unless the momentum is in his favor... and even then...
thanks for writing this, was really good :D
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
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