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ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
February 28 2017 09:37 GMT
#61
On February 28 2017 14:56 AshC wrote:
I'm curious if they open SSL for foreigners as well. GSL got quite a bit of attention with Scarlett in Ro32 so would be nice if we can have some non-Korean players at SSL.


Korean tournaments have been always open for foreigners as long as they come to Korea (it's offline event, ofc). The reason you had to wait such a long time to see a foreigner in GSL (Scarlett) is the dificulty of the tournament makes foreigners feel not worthy to travel all the way to Korea and then get rekt
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 09:40:39
February 28 2017 09:39 GMT
#62
On February 28 2017 17:34 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 16:37 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
*faints*

2017 > 2016 already

Nah no proleague



meh. Wasn't the same anyway.

Team identity was being stripped away with increasingly less and less player retention between teams. It wasn't like in the old days where guys like DRG were the face of their team or where you could watch the saplings on teams like IM develop into pillars for their team. Felt like anyone could jump teams and that ruins a lot of the team rivalry hype imo.

Also, at least we now have a parade of top-tier players in online events. Used to be that guy's like ByuL would only be seen once every blue moon.

I do miss FPL though ;;
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
February 28 2017 09:41 GMT
#63
On February 28 2017 18:33 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 18:24 Elentos wrote:
The main tournament (SSL Premier) has the same format as Proleague, that's easy enough to understand. But they really went mental with all the "Fast Lane" and "Challenge" stuff.

Also there's money on the line for every bo3 match, that's cool.


If there was no money on the line for each match, this format would be hell.
Go through Challenger 5man group into a 6man group into 4man group to qualify into a 10man group for a chance at $1000

Well the worst thing about the format is that if you didn't get through the qualifiers in season 1, you can't make Premier in season 2. But yeah no money for the matches would also not have been great.

The prelims are on the 8th/9th, I hope the IEM Katowice champion is sober by then
On February 28 2017 14:56 AshC wrote:
I'm curious if they open SSL for foreigners as well. GSL got quite a bit of attention with Scarlett in Ro32 so would be nice if we can have some non-Korean players at SSL.

It's a WCS Korea event so it should be open for foreigners since WCS Korea isn't region-locked. That aside, SSL was always open for foreigners and back in 2015 they would always invite big foreign names to play SSL Challenge.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
February 28 2017 09:45 GMT
#64
Poor Jim.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 09:49:45
February 28 2017 09:49 GMT
#65
On February 28 2017 18:39 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Team identity was being stripped away with increasingly less and less player retention between teams. It wasn't like in the old days where guys like DRG were the face of their team or where you could watch the saplings on teams like IM develop into pillars for their team. Felt like anyone could jump teams and that ruins a lot of the team rivalry hype imo.

The part about the "saplings" is true, but that's a general issue of the Korean scene, there aren't that many promising saplings to be found right now. But I disagree with the part about there being "no faces" and a feeling that anyone could jump team. I felt quite the opposite actually. In other sports during the off-season there's always this feeling of "Maybe big player X will join another team because he got a better offer". Not a feeling I got with Proleague. Players like Zest, Stats, Maru, sOs, herO and others, the faces of their teams, I never had the feeling that any of them would leave their team. Unless their team disbanded.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
February 28 2017 09:49 GMT
#66
siiiiiiiiiiiiiiick ciiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiity
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1917 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 09:49:53
February 28 2017 09:49 GMT
#67
On February 28 2017 18:34 PharaphobiaSC wrote:
So finally no more elitist BS and we work together now? That's good to hear...


Yeah, I really like the direction this is going. There are people who are interested in both games and this time it's not about forced transitions, so we will have high quality matches in both games. For me it's a win/win And they even have up&down matches from GSL :D
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
February 28 2017 09:50 GMT
#68
On February 28 2017 18:41 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 18:33 Inflicted wrote:
On February 28 2017 18:24 Elentos wrote:
The main tournament (SSL Premier) has the same format as Proleague, that's easy enough to understand. But they really went mental with all the "Fast Lane" and "Challenge" stuff.

Also there's money on the line for every bo3 match, that's cool.


If there was no money on the line for each match, this format would be hell.
Go through Challenger 5man group into a 6man group into 4man group to qualify into a 10man group for a chance at $1000

Well the worst thing about the format is that if you didn't get through the qualifiers in season 1, you can't make Premier in season 2. But yeah no money for the matches would also not have been great.

The prelims are on the 8th/9th, I hope the IEM Katowice champion is sober by then
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 14:56 AshC wrote:
I'm curious if they open SSL for foreigners as well. GSL got quite a bit of attention with Scarlett in Ro32 so would be nice if we can have some non-Korean players at SSL.

It's a WCS Korea event so it should be open for foreigners since WCS Korea isn't region-locked. That aside, SSL was always open for foreigners and back in 2015 they would always invite big foreign names to play SSL Challenge.


Possibly reading too much into this, but it also suggests SSL is here to stay. This format is essentially Code A / Code S from 2011 when they were separate tournaments; it doesn't make sense that they'd set up such a long term format if it's not continuing into more seasons
WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
February 28 2017 09:52 GMT
#69
On February 28 2017 18:50 munch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 18:41 Elentos wrote:
On February 28 2017 18:33 Inflicted wrote:
On February 28 2017 18:24 Elentos wrote:
The main tournament (SSL Premier) has the same format as Proleague, that's easy enough to understand. But they really went mental with all the "Fast Lane" and "Challenge" stuff.

Also there's money on the line for every bo3 match, that's cool.


If there was no money on the line for each match, this format would be hell.
Go through Challenger 5man group into a 6man group into 4man group to qualify into a 10man group for a chance at $1000

Well the worst thing about the format is that if you didn't get through the qualifiers in season 1, you can't make Premier in season 2. But yeah no money for the matches would also not have been great.

The prelims are on the 8th/9th, I hope the IEM Katowice champion is sober by then
On February 28 2017 14:56 AshC wrote:
I'm curious if they open SSL for foreigners as well. GSL got quite a bit of attention with Scarlett in Ro32 so would be nice if we can have some non-Korean players at SSL.

It's a WCS Korea event so it should be open for foreigners since WCS Korea isn't region-locked. That aside, SSL was always open for foreigners and back in 2015 they would always invite big foreign names to play SSL Challenge.


Possibly reading too much into this, but it also suggests SSL is here to stay. This format is essentially Code A / Code S from 2011 when they were separate tournaments; it doesn't make sense that they'd set up such a long term format if it's not continuing into more seasons

True. One can hope.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16006 Posts
February 28 2017 09:59 GMT
#70
On February 28 2017 18:39 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 17:34 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 28 2017 16:37 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
*faints*

2017 > 2016 already

Nah no proleague



meh. Wasn't the same anyway.

Team identity was being stripped away with increasingly less and less player retention between teams. It wasn't like in the old days where guys like DRG were the face of their team or where you could watch the saplings on teams like IM develop into pillars for their team. Felt like anyone could jump teams and that ruins a lot of the team rivalry hype imo.

Also, at least we now have a parade of top-tier players in online events. Used to be that guy's like ByuL would only be seen once every blue moon.

I do miss FPL though ;;

at the big teams (JA, KT, SKT, CJ, SAMSUNG) the players weren't really jumping teams. Only MVP, Afreeca/Sbenu, Prime and IM (before disbandment) were constantly changing.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
February 28 2017 10:00 GMT
#71
GG yo
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
killerm12
Profile Joined November 2014
Slovakia601 Posts
February 28 2017 10:09 GMT
#72
aw yis

HYPE
Byun | Neeb | Ryung | Solar | ShoWTimE | uThermal | Nerchio | TY | soO | MMA | Crank
MushinSSC
Profile Joined April 2016
31 Posts
February 28 2017 10:36 GMT
#73
wow, this is super awsome!
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4184 Posts
February 28 2017 10:50 GMT
#74
Really happy for this. More Starcraft content on both fronts.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 28 2017 10:56 GMT
#75
Sweet!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
February 28 2017 10:59 GMT
#76
I like this format a lot. Less content to keep up w/ during each week, making it easier to create and follow storylines, and round robin format helps with the same.
The heart's eternal vow
LaughNgamez
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada525 Posts
February 28 2017 11:02 GMT
#77
wooo! 4 day a week KR SC2 it looks like :D
(◕‿◕✿) Hopefully one day a decent caster http://www.youtube.com/LaughNgamez (◠‿◠✿)
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
February 28 2017 11:04 GMT
#78
March 20 is a Monday

I'm so happy Korean SC2 is returning to Monday.

I missed watching Proleague on the otherwise shittiest day of the week.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
bObA
Profile Joined May 2012
France300 Posts
February 28 2017 11:12 GMT
#79
this is awesome !!!!!!!!!
bObA
Profile Joined May 2012
France300 Posts
February 28 2017 11:13 GMT
#80
On February 28 2017 20:04 Elentos wrote:
March 20 is a Monday

I'm so happy Korean SC2 is returning to Monday.

I missed watching Proleague on the otherwise shittiest day of the week.


I agree lol
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