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SSL 2017 announced, ft SC2 and BW

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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 06:07:42
February 28 2017 05:02 GMT
#1

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Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
February 28 2017 05:04 GMT
#2
Wow awesome:D
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
February 28 2017 05:07 GMT
#3
Very nice. And the prelims are quite soon too (March 8-9).
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
February 28 2017 05:09 GMT
#4
Definitey the best outcome to have both games as two separate tournaments. BW gets an invitational, and SC2 gets a leaner WCS/GSL-style tournament.
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Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
February 28 2017 05:13 GMT
#5
Sweet
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50119 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 05:15:27
February 28 2017 05:15 GMT
#6
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
February 28 2017 05:17 GMT
#7
Awesome. The more Starcraft the better.
Denominator of the Universe
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 28 2017 05:18 GMT
#8
Yes! We get SSL and Wolf back, this is a good day!
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atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1710 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 05:20:09
February 28 2017 05:19 GMT
#9
aww yes, best outcome

and I didn't read the tweet yay for valdes
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 05:26:17
February 28 2017 05:20 GMT
#10
Very nice. Can't wait for more BW.

Hoping Blizzard can get SC2 in a slightly better state before then. Happy for it regardless.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19231 Posts
February 28 2017 05:25 GMT
#11
Yes! Great news for BW!
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
February 28 2017 05:26 GMT
#12
Cool! And Wolf is back too!
egernya
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada352 Posts
February 28 2017 05:30 GMT
#13
http://imgur.com/a/fioTF
for sc2 part:
2 seasons, each seasons consist of preliminary-challenge 1- premier - challenge 2.
first day of the preliminary: 20 top players advance
second day: bo3 4 people groups statge, 2 winners go to the premier the other 2 go to the challenge

premier
pennant race: full league bo3
top 4 goes to the play offs
bottom 2 goes to the ssl challenge

challenge first stage
2 groups of 5 people (5 weeks)
top 6 goes to the second stage of the challenge.

Play off (bw and sc2 done at the same day)

po round 1 and 2
bw bo3, sc2 bo5 (4th vs 3rd, the winner vs 2nd)

finals
bw bo5, sc2 bo7 (the winner vs 1st)

challenge 2nd stage
6 people bo5 full league( 5 week)
1st: seeded to the premier next season
2nd to 4th: seeded to the up and down matches "fast lane"

season 2

fast lane (up and downs)
bo3 group stage (of 4)
1st day: premier 6th and 7th of the premier, and 2nd, 3rd of the challenge. Top 2 to the premier season 2, the others to the 2nd day.
2nd day: the two losers of the first day, 8th of the premier, and 4th of the challenge. Top two to the premier, the others to the challenge

pennant race
premier
10 people, top 5 from the season 1 premier, the 1st place from the challenge second place, and 4 from the fast lane

challenge
2 fast lane losers, 9th and 10th of premier, 6 new players through preliminary.
lechatnoir
Profile Joined November 2016
386 Posts
February 28 2017 05:30 GMT
#14
Dead games? Not at all!
egernya
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada352 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 05:41:40
February 28 2017 05:36 GMT
#15
prizepool (all numbers in krw, all numbers per season)
post season (bw and sc2 same)
1st 10,000,000
2nd 5,000,000
3rd 2,000,000

pennant race
premier (45,000,000 in total)
1,000,000 per a match, 45 matches (bo3)
2:0 (8:2 for winner/loser)/ 2:1(7:3)

challenge first(6,000,000)
300,000 per match, 20 matches in total(bo3)
200,000 for the winner, 100,000 for the loser

challenger second(7,500,000)
500,000 per match(bo5) 15 matches total
300,000 for the winner, 200,000 for the loser

bw
500,000 per match(bo1)
28 and 45 total for season 1 and 2
the winner takes 400,000, and the loser takes 100,000

no prize money for rematches or fast lane matches.

Total 2017 prize pool (sc2+bw)
221,500,000

Total season 1 prize pool
106,500,000

Total season 2 prize pool
115,000,000

WCS points (premier only)
1st 1500
2nd 1050
3rd and 4th 675
3900 in total per season
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
February 28 2017 05:37 GMT
#16
dat reverse hybrid league tho :D
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egernya
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada352 Posts
February 28 2017 05:38 GMT
#17
bw: ssl classic
1st season
8 players from the fan vote. (10 for 2nd)

pennant race
full league bo1, top 4 to the play off

play off matches done with sc2.
bo3 for play off round 1 and 2, bo5 for the finals.

season 2
top 4 from season 1, 6 from another fan vote.
AshC
Profile Joined August 2016
United States328 Posts
February 28 2017 05:46 GMT
#18
Great news for SSL SC2. Personally don't like the involvement of BW but whatever. Also, need a bit clarification of format, prize pool and WCS points (which I see on the image). egernya tried to explain the format a bit but I'm still very confused.
AshC
Profile Joined August 2016
United States328 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 05:51:32
February 28 2017 05:49 GMT
#19
Nevermind.

Here is the picture in English in case someone wants to know:

https://twitter.com/spotv_games_en
agsub
Profile Joined May 2012
Singapore368 Posts
February 28 2017 05:49 GMT
#20
Great news =)
blunderfulguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2016
United States1415 Posts
February 28 2017 05:50 GMT
#21
Blunder Man doing everything thing a blunder can.
AshC
Profile Joined August 2016
United States328 Posts
February 28 2017 05:56 GMT
#22
I'm curious if they open SSL for foreigners as well. GSL got quite a bit of attention with Scarlett in Ro32 so would be nice if we can have some non-Korean players at SSL.
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
February 28 2017 05:59 GMT
#23
SSL has wcs points if you look at picture 4
Icebound Esports
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
February 28 2017 06:22 GMT
#24
This is amazing. I'm so glad SSL is back. What an incredible announcement Oo;;
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
February 28 2017 06:29 GMT
#25
10 player round robin. Sick city!
kobe00
Profile Joined July 2015
United States4 Posts
February 28 2017 06:34 GMT
#26
I've enjoyed both years of SSL and love their production quality. Last year, 2016 S1 with DingIt was an utter disaster, but I'll forgive that. So glad they're coming back, I hope it is on Twitch.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24194 Posts
February 28 2017 06:44 GMT
#27
Great !!!
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 06:56:20
February 28 2017 06:55 GMT
#28
omg really more bw im happy,


the (SSL) name will be awkward with sonics starleague history


(edit ohw wait wut no korean bw pro's?)
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 28 2017 06:55 GMT
#29
YESSSSS
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
February 28 2017 06:59 GMT
#30
Great to see that both games get some love here. Win-win.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
February 28 2017 07:00 GMT
#31
On February 28 2017 15:55 onlystar wrote:
omg really more bw im happy,


the (SSL) name will be awkward with sonics starleague history


(edit ohw wait wut no korean bw pro's?)

They are almost definitely gonna be invited Korean pros.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1199 Posts
February 28 2017 07:11 GMT
#32
This is absolutely great :D
sOs TY PartinG
blunderfulguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2016
United States1415 Posts
February 28 2017 07:13 GMT
#33
On February 28 2017 16:00 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 15:55 onlystar wrote:
omg really more bw im happy,


the (SSL) name will be awkward with sonics starleague history


(edit ohw wait wut no korean bw pro's?)

They are almost definitely gonna be invited Korean pros.

Fan vote, so unless everyone votes for amateurs...
Blunder Man doing everything thing a blunder can.
Nagetony
Profile Joined November 2016
2 Posts
February 28 2017 07:19 GMT
#34
I love StarCraft! 3 GSL Seasons, 2 SSL Seasons, 2 GSL Super tournaments in Korea in the next 8 months... man... we have a packed year!!!
KaiserCommander
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico290 Posts
February 28 2017 07:30 GMT
#35
Hell yeah, moar tournaments please, such a good moment to be back in my beloved game.
Jinro, Polt, Bomber, ForGG, MajOr, Flash, Maru. Terran Fighting...
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
February 28 2017 07:32 GMT
#36
This is how to is should have been from the start
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 07:40:20
February 28 2017 07:37 GMT
#37
*faints*

2017 > 2016 already
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
February 28 2017 07:37 GMT
#38
Is it only me that get really confused by the format of this tournament? no? anyone?
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
Fatam
Profile Joined June 2012
1986 Posts
February 28 2017 07:39 GMT
#39
Siiick. Aliev games
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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
February 28 2017 07:40 GMT
#40
On February 28 2017 16:19 Nagetony wrote:
I love StarCraft! 3 GSL Seasons, 2 SSL Seasons, 2 GSL Super tournaments in Korea in the next 8 months... man... we have a packed year!!!

Meanwhile, in the rest of the world...
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3374 Posts
February 28 2017 07:43 GMT
#41
...great great news! super hyped for this!
ModeratorSC2 LP Admin - My Life for Aiur - Let the Metal flow - @Cynical_Death
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3374 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 08:05:49
February 28 2017 07:57 GMT
#42
On February 28 2017 16:37 NinjaToss wrote:
Is it only me that get really confused by the format of this tournament? no? anyone?

...to simplify: qualifiers, top 20 advance to 5 gsl style groups... top 2 each go to Premier bottom 2 to Challenge....
Premier is a single 10 players round robin... top 4 advance and bottom 2 (9-10) are "locked" in challenge next season... top 4 players then go koth and premier is completed....
Challenge: 2 round robin groups of 5 players, top 3 each advance bottom 2 are left on a distant planet's surface to die... the 6 advancing players fight in a round robin single group... first qualifies directly to s2premier, 2 to 4 go to "fast lane for s2" and bottom 2 join the ones on the distant planet...
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 28 2017 08:05 GMT
#43
So sick, great news.

Man this format and everything is awesome. They even managed to secure WCS points, seems like 2017 is not set in stone after all.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
February 28 2017 08:09 GMT
#44
That info-graph could use some work. I didn't really understand it after a while. It might just be because the format is really unique and switches up each phase.
Someone call down the Thunder?
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
February 28 2017 08:23 GMT
#45
On February 28 2017 16:57 CynicalDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 16:37 NinjaToss wrote:
Is it only me that get really confused by the format of this tournament? no? anyone?

...to simplify: qualifiers, top 20 advance to 5 gsl style groups... top 2 each go to Premier bottom 2 to Challenge....
Premier is a single 10 players round robin... top 4 advance and bottom 2 (9-10) are "locked" in challenge next season... top 4 players then go koth and premier is completed....
Challenge: 2 round robin groups of 5 players, top 3 each advance bottom 2 are left on a distant planet's surface to die... the 6 advancing players fight in a round robin single group... first qualifies directly to s2premier, 2 to 4 go to "fast lane for s2" and bottom 2 join the ones on the distant planet...


Okay, now I understand. they should have put it like that in the infographic
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 08:24:50
February 28 2017 08:24 GMT
#46
Why do Korean tournaments insist on calling promotion tournament things like 'Fast Lane' and 'Super Week'??
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15930 Posts
February 28 2017 08:32 GMT
#47
Best news in a long time. This is awesome.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15930 Posts
February 28 2017 08:34 GMT
#48
On February 28 2017 16:37 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
*faints*

2017 > 2016 already

Nah no proleague

Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1195 Posts
February 28 2017 08:37 GMT
#49
Awesome news. The 2017 prize money pool of 221,550,000 KRW is roughly 196,000 USD which is nice. Also, Valdes and Rapid are casting this, so what's not to like.
starcraft2.fi
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
February 28 2017 08:42 GMT
#50
If you don't make S1 Challenger, you can't make Premier in Season 2 and can't get WCS points. that seems a bit unfair
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ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1685 Posts
February 28 2017 08:51 GMT
#51
I may be missing something, but I don't see where the casters are listed. I would be very keen to know whether there's an English BW cast, and if so, who is doing it.
EleGant[AoV]
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
February 28 2017 08:53 GMT
#52
On February 28 2017 17:51 ImbaTosS wrote:
I may be missing something, but I don't see where the casters are listed. I would be very keen to know whether there's an English BW cast, and if so, who is doing it.


Wolf and Rapid it seems.

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fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
February 28 2017 08:59 GMT
#53
That is SICK. I am so happy for both games
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
February 28 2017 09:07 GMT
#54
Seems like SC2 is finally throwing BW a bone to let it catch up. [image loading]
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
February 28 2017 09:08 GMT
#55
Wow SPOTV really likes to have weird formats for their SC2 tournaments huh?

Well I'm not gonna complain, great news.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
February 28 2017 09:14 GMT
#56
jesus christ, mental formats are back

God I love SSL
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SKNielsen1989
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
174 Posts
February 28 2017 09:15 GMT
#57
Awesome news
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 09:27:14
February 28 2017 09:24 GMT
#58
The main tournament (SSL Premier) has the same format as Proleague, that's easy enough to understand. But they really went mental with all the "Fast Lane" and "Challenge" stuff.

Also there's money on the line for every bo3 match, that's cool.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
February 28 2017 09:33 GMT
#59
On February 28 2017 18:24 Elentos wrote:
The main tournament (SSL Premier) has the same format as Proleague, that's easy enough to understand. But they really went mental with all the "Fast Lane" and "Challenge" stuff.

Also there's money on the line for every bo3 match, that's cool.


If there was no money on the line for each match, this format would be hell.
Go through Challenger 5man group into a 6man group into 4man group to qualify into a 10man group for a chance at $1000
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PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
February 28 2017 09:34 GMT
#60
So finally no more elitist BS and we work together now? That's good to hear...
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ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
February 28 2017 09:37 GMT
#61
On February 28 2017 14:56 AshC wrote:
I'm curious if they open SSL for foreigners as well. GSL got quite a bit of attention with Scarlett in Ro32 so would be nice if we can have some non-Korean players at SSL.


Korean tournaments have been always open for foreigners as long as they come to Korea (it's offline event, ofc). The reason you had to wait such a long time to see a foreigner in GSL (Scarlett) is the dificulty of the tournament makes foreigners feel not worthy to travel all the way to Korea and then get rekt
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 09:40:39
February 28 2017 09:39 GMT
#62
On February 28 2017 17:34 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 16:37 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
*faints*

2017 > 2016 already

Nah no proleague



meh. Wasn't the same anyway.

Team identity was being stripped away with increasingly less and less player retention between teams. It wasn't like in the old days where guys like DRG were the face of their team or where you could watch the saplings on teams like IM develop into pillars for their team. Felt like anyone could jump teams and that ruins a lot of the team rivalry hype imo.

Also, at least we now have a parade of top-tier players in online events. Used to be that guy's like ByuL would only be seen once every blue moon.

I do miss FPL though ;;
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
February 28 2017 09:41 GMT
#63
On February 28 2017 18:33 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 18:24 Elentos wrote:
The main tournament (SSL Premier) has the same format as Proleague, that's easy enough to understand. But they really went mental with all the "Fast Lane" and "Challenge" stuff.

Also there's money on the line for every bo3 match, that's cool.


If there was no money on the line for each match, this format would be hell.
Go through Challenger 5man group into a 6man group into 4man group to qualify into a 10man group for a chance at $1000

Well the worst thing about the format is that if you didn't get through the qualifiers in season 1, you can't make Premier in season 2. But yeah no money for the matches would also not have been great.

The prelims are on the 8th/9th, I hope the IEM Katowice champion is sober by then
On February 28 2017 14:56 AshC wrote:
I'm curious if they open SSL for foreigners as well. GSL got quite a bit of attention with Scarlett in Ro32 so would be nice if we can have some non-Korean players at SSL.

It's a WCS Korea event so it should be open for foreigners since WCS Korea isn't region-locked. That aside, SSL was always open for foreigners and back in 2015 they would always invite big foreign names to play SSL Challenge.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
February 28 2017 09:45 GMT
#64
Poor Jim.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 09:49:45
February 28 2017 09:49 GMT
#65
On February 28 2017 18:39 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Team identity was being stripped away with increasingly less and less player retention between teams. It wasn't like in the old days where guys like DRG were the face of their team or where you could watch the saplings on teams like IM develop into pillars for their team. Felt like anyone could jump teams and that ruins a lot of the team rivalry hype imo.

The part about the "saplings" is true, but that's a general issue of the Korean scene, there aren't that many promising saplings to be found right now. But I disagree with the part about there being "no faces" and a feeling that anyone could jump team. I felt quite the opposite actually. In other sports during the off-season there's always this feeling of "Maybe big player X will join another team because he got a better offer". Not a feeling I got with Proleague. Players like Zest, Stats, Maru, sOs, herO and others, the faces of their teams, I never had the feeling that any of them would leave their team. Unless their team disbanded.
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negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
February 28 2017 09:49 GMT
#66
siiiiiiiiiiiiiiick ciiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiity
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1893 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 09:49:53
February 28 2017 09:49 GMT
#67
On February 28 2017 18:34 PharaphobiaSC wrote:
So finally no more elitist BS and we work together now? That's good to hear...


Yeah, I really like the direction this is going. There are people who are interested in both games and this time it's not about forced transitions, so we will have high quality matches in both games. For me it's a win/win And they even have up&down matches from GSL :D
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
February 28 2017 09:50 GMT
#68
On February 28 2017 18:41 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 18:33 Inflicted wrote:
On February 28 2017 18:24 Elentos wrote:
The main tournament (SSL Premier) has the same format as Proleague, that's easy enough to understand. But they really went mental with all the "Fast Lane" and "Challenge" stuff.

Also there's money on the line for every bo3 match, that's cool.


If there was no money on the line for each match, this format would be hell.
Go through Challenger 5man group into a 6man group into 4man group to qualify into a 10man group for a chance at $1000

Well the worst thing about the format is that if you didn't get through the qualifiers in season 1, you can't make Premier in season 2. But yeah no money for the matches would also not have been great.

The prelims are on the 8th/9th, I hope the IEM Katowice champion is sober by then
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 14:56 AshC wrote:
I'm curious if they open SSL for foreigners as well. GSL got quite a bit of attention with Scarlett in Ro32 so would be nice if we can have some non-Korean players at SSL.

It's a WCS Korea event so it should be open for foreigners since WCS Korea isn't region-locked. That aside, SSL was always open for foreigners and back in 2015 they would always invite big foreign names to play SSL Challenge.


Possibly reading too much into this, but it also suggests SSL is here to stay. This format is essentially Code A / Code S from 2011 when they were separate tournaments; it doesn't make sense that they'd set up such a long term format if it's not continuing into more seasons
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
February 28 2017 09:52 GMT
#69
On February 28 2017 18:50 munch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 18:41 Elentos wrote:
On February 28 2017 18:33 Inflicted wrote:
On February 28 2017 18:24 Elentos wrote:
The main tournament (SSL Premier) has the same format as Proleague, that's easy enough to understand. But they really went mental with all the "Fast Lane" and "Challenge" stuff.

Also there's money on the line for every bo3 match, that's cool.


If there was no money on the line for each match, this format would be hell.
Go through Challenger 5man group into a 6man group into 4man group to qualify into a 10man group for a chance at $1000

Well the worst thing about the format is that if you didn't get through the qualifiers in season 1, you can't make Premier in season 2. But yeah no money for the matches would also not have been great.

The prelims are on the 8th/9th, I hope the IEM Katowice champion is sober by then
On February 28 2017 14:56 AshC wrote:
I'm curious if they open SSL for foreigners as well. GSL got quite a bit of attention with Scarlett in Ro32 so would be nice if we can have some non-Korean players at SSL.

It's a WCS Korea event so it should be open for foreigners since WCS Korea isn't region-locked. That aside, SSL was always open for foreigners and back in 2015 they would always invite big foreign names to play SSL Challenge.


Possibly reading too much into this, but it also suggests SSL is here to stay. This format is essentially Code A / Code S from 2011 when they were separate tournaments; it doesn't make sense that they'd set up such a long term format if it's not continuing into more seasons

True. One can hope.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15930 Posts
February 28 2017 09:59 GMT
#70
On February 28 2017 18:39 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 17:34 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 28 2017 16:37 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
*faints*

2017 > 2016 already

Nah no proleague



meh. Wasn't the same anyway.

Team identity was being stripped away with increasingly less and less player retention between teams. It wasn't like in the old days where guys like DRG were the face of their team or where you could watch the saplings on teams like IM develop into pillars for their team. Felt like anyone could jump teams and that ruins a lot of the team rivalry hype imo.

Also, at least we now have a parade of top-tier players in online events. Used to be that guy's like ByuL would only be seen once every blue moon.

I do miss FPL though ;;

at the big teams (JA, KT, SKT, CJ, SAMSUNG) the players weren't really jumping teams. Only MVP, Afreeca/Sbenu, Prime and IM (before disbandment) were constantly changing.
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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
February 28 2017 10:00 GMT
#71
GG yo
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killerm12
Profile Joined November 2014
Slovakia601 Posts
February 28 2017 10:09 GMT
#72
aw yis

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MushinSSC
Profile Joined April 2016
31 Posts
February 28 2017 10:36 GMT
#73
wow, this is super awsome!
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
February 28 2017 10:50 GMT
#74
Really happy for this. More Starcraft content on both fronts.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
February 28 2017 10:56 GMT
#75
Sweet!
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
February 28 2017 10:59 GMT
#76
I like this format a lot. Less content to keep up w/ during each week, making it easier to create and follow storylines, and round robin format helps with the same.
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LaughNgamez
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada523 Posts
February 28 2017 11:02 GMT
#77
wooo! 4 day a week KR SC2 it looks like :D
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
February 28 2017 11:04 GMT
#78
March 20 is a Monday

I'm so happy Korean SC2 is returning to Monday.

I missed watching Proleague on the otherwise shittiest day of the week.
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bObA
Profile Joined May 2012
France300 Posts
February 28 2017 11:12 GMT
#79
this is awesome !!!!!!!!!
bObA
Profile Joined May 2012
France300 Posts
February 28 2017 11:13 GMT
#80
On February 28 2017 20:04 Elentos wrote:
March 20 is a Monday

I'm so happy Korean SC2 is returning to Monday.

I missed watching Proleague on the otherwise shittiest day of the week.


I agree lol
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 11:26:25
February 28 2017 11:22 GMT
#81
On February 28 2017 18:41 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 18:33 Inflicted wrote:
On February 28 2017 18:24 Elentos wrote:
The main tournament (SSL Premier) has the same format as Proleague, that's easy enough to understand. But they really went mental with all the "Fast Lane" and "Challenge" stuff.

Also there's money on the line for every bo3 match, that's cool.


If there was no money on the line for each match, this format would be hell.
Go through Challenger 5man group into a 6man group into 4man group to qualify into a 10man group for a chance at $1000

Well the worst thing about the format is that if you didn't get through the qualifiers in season 1, you can't make Premier in season 2. But yeah no money for the matches would also not have been great.


nvm.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
February 28 2017 11:25 GMT
#82
On February 28 2017 20:22 PVJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 18:41 Elentos wrote:
On February 28 2017 18:33 Inflicted wrote:
On February 28 2017 18:24 Elentos wrote:
The main tournament (SSL Premier) has the same format as Proleague, that's easy enough to understand. But they really went mental with all the "Fast Lane" and "Challenge" stuff.

Also there's money on the line for every bo3 match, that's cool.


If there was no money on the line for each match, this format would be hell.
Go through Challenger 5man group into a 6man group into 4man group to qualify into a 10man group for a chance at $1000

Well the worst thing about the format is that if you didn't get through the qualifiers in season 1, you can't make Premier in season 2. But yeah no money for the matches would also not have been great.


I think the bottom of the graph says that Season 2 also has a challenger, with 6 players entering. So whoever loses out in season 1 may have another chance. If I'm reading it right, that is.

The players from Challenge don't get to go into that season of Premier though. If you read the graph, it says the top players of season 1 Challenge can get into season 2 Premier. So if you qualify for season 2 Challenge, you can win money, but you can't get into season 2 Premier where the WCS points are given out.
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
February 28 2017 11:27 GMT
#83
On February 28 2017 20:25 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 20:22 PVJ wrote:
On February 28 2017 18:41 Elentos wrote:
On February 28 2017 18:33 Inflicted wrote:
On February 28 2017 18:24 Elentos wrote:
The main tournament (SSL Premier) has the same format as Proleague, that's easy enough to understand. But they really went mental with all the "Fast Lane" and "Challenge" stuff.

Also there's money on the line for every bo3 match, that's cool.


If there was no money on the line for each match, this format would be hell.
Go through Challenger 5man group into a 6man group into 4man group to qualify into a 10man group for a chance at $1000

Well the worst thing about the format is that if you didn't get through the qualifiers in season 1, you can't make Premier in season 2. But yeah no money for the matches would also not have been great.


I think the bottom of the graph says that Season 2 also has a challenger, with 6 players entering. So whoever loses out in season 1 may have another chance. If I'm reading it right, that is.

The players from Challenge don't get to go into that season of Premier though. If you read the graph, it says the top players of season 1 Challenge can get into season 2 Premier. So if you qualify for season 2 Challenge, you can win money, but you can't get into season 2 Premier where the WCS points are given out.

Yeah, I just removed my comment, I misunderstood what you're saying. You're right, whoever does Season 2 Challenge will only be able to get WCS points for 2018.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 28 2017 11:48 GMT
#84
Wow this is great. I basically got what i hoped for
Also really like that SPOTV is creative with the format
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
February 28 2017 11:57 GMT
#85
Finally a return back to hybrid league!
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
February 28 2017 11:58 GMT
#86
This format is... interesting... but I do like the whole round-robin thing. Should make for a lot of interesting matches! As for the promotion/relegation thing, I'm waiting eagerly to hear Wolf and Valdes try to explain that...
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
February 28 2017 11:59 GMT
#87
This is great
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AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
February 28 2017 12:02 GMT
#88
THIS IS SIIIICK!!! HOW DO I DONATE!!!?? TAKE MY MONEY!!!
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
February 28 2017 12:21 GMT
#89
Im wondering when the voting starts for the BW players. Any info on that?
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KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
February 28 2017 12:21 GMT
#90
Wolf is back, sweet!
AlexGPunkt
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany258 Posts
February 28 2017 12:28 GMT
#91
This is great news!
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
February 28 2017 13:06 GMT
#92
Twitch or Youtube?
MrMischelito
Profile Joined February 2014
347 Posts
February 28 2017 13:30 GMT
#93
I feel so spoiled! ... excellent news!
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
February 28 2017 13:37 GMT
#94
On February 28 2017 22:06 paralleluniverse wrote:
Twitch or Youtube?


I hope it's gonna be both. From my school I can only watch YouTube, but I know a lot of people prefer Twitch and Twitch also generally gets a better viewers count
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Profile Joined July 2013
Germany53 Posts
February 28 2017 13:45 GMT
#95
nice!
kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary474 Posts
February 28 2017 13:45 GMT
#96
Is this going be run at the same time as GSL Season 2? Because as i see it from last year, gsl and ssl games were kinda overlapping. Then most of the time people simply practiced for their GSL game. Even tough in theory they should have the same prestige, it seems SSL is threated 2nd Grade amongst many of the players. Therefore it would have been better in my opinion if it would not run in the same time as GSL or at least make it overlap as least as possible.
Why so serious?
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19231 Posts
February 28 2017 13:47 GMT
#97
On February 28 2017 22:30 MrMischelito wrote:
I feel so spoiled! ... excellent news!

TL has a checkbox for that now. :D
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 13:50:16
February 28 2017 13:49 GMT
#98
On February 28 2017 22:45 kajtarp wrote:
Is this going be run at the same time as GSL Season 2? Because as i see it from last year, gsl and ssl games were kinda overlapping. Then most of the time people simply practiced for their GSL game. Even tough in theory they should have the same prestige, it seems SSL is threated 2nd Grade amongst many of the players. Therefore it would have been better in my opinion if it would not run in the same time as GSL or at least make it overlap as least as possible.

They're gonna overlap at some point, even though GSL season 2 starts in April (as this looks to be a very long event). I don't really remember anyone clearly prioritizing GSL though.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 28 2017 13:56 GMT
#99
I mean these days where there isn't even proleague each week to prepare for it shouldn't be a problem tbh
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 28 2017 13:56 GMT
#100
Wow! This is awesome.

I particularly llike the Premier format. If the best 10 players actually make it in there, we could have a situation where each of the best 10 SC2 players in the world play each other, we could really get some solid evidence for who is the best. No relying on a single preferable matchup, no eliminations on a single off-day, and so on.

Hype!
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LaughNgamez
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada523 Posts
February 28 2017 14:10 GMT
#101
Trying to fully figure out this format [image loading]

User was warned for this post
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oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
February 28 2017 15:06 GMT
#102
On February 28 2017 23:10 LaughNgamez wrote:
Trying to fully figure out this format [image loading]

From what i understood, people good at starcraft will compete against each other. That makes me happy
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Negius
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands290 Posts
February 28 2017 15:16 GMT
#103
So:

• Broodwar gets an 8-man/10-man round robin tournament with play-offs where players are qualified by fan-votes
• SC2 gets a league system.
- SC2 SSL Premier is a 10-man round robin tournament with play-offs where players are qualified for from Challenge or last seasons Premier
- SC2 SSL Challenge is a two 5-man groups round robin tournament with open qualifiers

Sounds awesome, really glad this is happening. And it seems like they want to continue this for multiple years.
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
February 28 2017 15:20 GMT
#104
10 player round robin bo3 so sick
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Hadronsbecrazy
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom551 Posts
February 28 2017 15:24 GMT
#105
LETS GO MARU
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Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
February 28 2017 15:26 GMT
#106
On February 28 2017 20:57 Heartland wrote:
Finally a return back to hybrid league!

Not quite. It's still just two separate leagues that happen to be broadcast back-to-back on on certain days.
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n3p
Profile Blog Joined July 2016
93 Posts
February 28 2017 15:35 GMT
#107
Really excited to watch the BW side of things!
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hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland931 Posts
February 28 2017 15:42 GMT
#108
Looking forward to some excellent leagues with great casters.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
February 28 2017 16:07 GMT
#109
Looks like they caved in and bought blizzard's license.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 28 2017 16:12 GMT
#110
I don't quite understand why the format between bw and sc2 is so different though tbh.
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samVimes
Profile Joined January 2017
2 Posts
February 28 2017 16:23 GMT
#111
hope this means more wolf and valdes
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
February 28 2017 16:25 GMT
#112
On March 01 2017 01:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I don't quite understand why the format between bw and sc2 is so different though tbh.

The BW pros were all too old to understand the SC2 format

I think they're just testing the waters because they've never done BW.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 28 2017 16:32 GMT
#113
On March 01 2017 01:25 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 01:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I don't quite understand why the format between bw and sc2 is so different though tbh.

The BW pros were all too old to understand the SC2 format

I think they're just testing the waters because they've never done BW.

I mean i get that they don't wanna do the whole qualifier thing because for maximum viewer numbers you really need TBLS in your tournament. Also for ASL there were like 500 people trying to qualify, that's just so much work.
Well doesn't matter too much i guess, i am hyped for both events
Still a bit sad because someone like Rain has pretty much no chance to get in now
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
February 28 2017 16:33 GMT
#114
On March 01 2017 01:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 01:25 Elentos wrote:
On March 01 2017 01:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I don't quite understand why the format between bw and sc2 is so different though tbh.

The BW pros were all too old to understand the SC2 format

I think they're just testing the waters because they've never done BW.

I mean i get that they don't wanna do the whole qualifier thing because for maximum viewer numbers you really need TBLS in your tournament. Also for ASL there were like 500 people trying to qualify, that's just so much work.
Well doesn't matter too much i guess, i am hyped for both events
Still a bit sad because someone like Rain has pretty much no chance to get in now

Maybe they'll hire him to cast again.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 28 2017 16:35 GMT
#115
On March 01 2017 01:33 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 01:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 01 2017 01:25 Elentos wrote:
On March 01 2017 01:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I don't quite understand why the format between bw and sc2 is so different though tbh.

The BW pros were all too old to understand the SC2 format

I think they're just testing the waters because they've never done BW.

I mean i get that they don't wanna do the whole qualifier thing because for maximum viewer numbers you really need TBLS in your tournament. Also for ASL there were like 500 people trying to qualify, that's just so much work.
Well doesn't matter too much i guess, i am hyped for both events
Still a bit sad because someone like Rain has pretty much no chance to get in now

Maybe they'll hire him to cast again.

Ouch :D The guy who recently won a fairly competitive bw online tournament has to cast
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
February 28 2017 16:38 GMT
#116
On February 28 2017 23:10 LaughNgamez wrote:
Trying to fully figure out this format [image loading]

User was warned for this post



Hey, why was this warned?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
February 28 2017 16:42 GMT
#117
On March 01 2017 01:38 Cosmos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 23:10 LaughNgamez wrote:
Trying to fully figure out this format [image loading]

User was warned for this post



Hey, why was this warned?

The gif
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
February 28 2017 16:46 GMT
#118
We're not allowed image macros or memes like that on TL - it's in the commandments.
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Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
February 28 2017 17:14 GMT
#119
On March 01 2017 01:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:

Still a bit sad because someone like Rain has pretty much no chance to get in now



May I ask why?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
February 28 2017 17:15 GMT
#120
On March 01 2017 02:14 Mun_Su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 01:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:

Still a bit sad because someone like Rain has pretty much no chance to get in now



May I ask why?

He's a big name in SC2 but not really in BW. In a popularity vote like this he's unlikely to get top 10 or better.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 17:17:07
February 28 2017 17:16 GMT
#121
On March 01 2017 02:14 Mun_Su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 01:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:

Still a bit sad because someone like Rain has pretty much no chance to get in now



May I ask why?

Well i don't see him being popular enough to be in the top8 of fan votes.

On March 01 2017 02:15 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 02:14 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 01 2017 01:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:

Still a bit sad because someone like Rain has pretty much no chance to get in now



May I ask why?

He's a big name in SC2 but not really in BW. In a popularity vote like this he's unlikely to get top 10 or better.


I doubt he would make it in sc2 either (fan vote), i might be wrong though.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 17:19:20
February 28 2017 17:18 GMT
#122
On March 01 2017 02:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 02:14 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 01 2017 01:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:

Still a bit sad because someone like Rain has pretty much no chance to get in now



May I ask why?

Well i don't see him being popular enough to be in the top8 of fan votes.

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 02:15 Elentos wrote:
On March 01 2017 02:14 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 01 2017 01:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:

Still a bit sad because someone like Rain has pretty much no chance to get in now



May I ask why?

He's a big name in SC2 but not really in BW. In a popularity vote like this he's unlikely to get top 10 or better.


I doubt he would make it in sc2 either (fan vote), i might be wrong though.

He'd have a much better shot since he's basically a legend in SC2. He's one of the best things to ever happen to SC2 Protoss. Maybe the best.

Of course the first 4 spots in a popularity vote would all be Terrans.
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
February 28 2017 17:19 GMT
#123
On March 01 2017 02:15 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 02:14 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 01 2017 01:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:

Still a bit sad because someone like Rain has pretty much no chance to get in now



May I ask why?

He's a big name in SC2 but not really in BW. In a popularity vote like this he's unlikely to get top 10 or better.

Yeah that sucks, which is a shame because his game vs Effort was probably among my favorites in the last season of the ASL.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 28 2017 17:28 GMT
#124
On March 01 2017 02:18 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 02:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 01 2017 02:14 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 01 2017 01:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:

Still a bit sad because someone like Rain has pretty much no chance to get in now



May I ask why?

Well i don't see him being popular enough to be in the top8 of fan votes.

On March 01 2017 02:15 Elentos wrote:
On March 01 2017 02:14 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 01 2017 01:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:

Still a bit sad because someone like Rain has pretty much no chance to get in now



May I ask why?

He's a big name in SC2 but not really in BW. In a popularity vote like this he's unlikely to get top 10 or better.


I doubt he would make it in sc2 either (fan vote), i might be wrong though.

He'd have a much better shot since he's basically a legend in SC2. He's one of the best things to ever happen to SC2 Protoss. Maybe the best.

Of course the first 4 spots in a popularity vote would all be Terrans.


Oh i am not denying that, imo Rain is one of the most important players in sc2 for sure. But that doesn't necessarily translate into a lot of fans. Hard to say for sure, though he surely had the looks so he probably had a lot of fans :D


On March 01 2017 02:19 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 02:15 Elentos wrote:
On March 01 2017 02:14 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 01 2017 01:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:

Still a bit sad because someone like Rain has pretty much no chance to get in now



May I ask why?

He's a big name in SC2 but not really in BW. In a popularity vote like this he's unlikely to get top 10 or better.

Yeah that sucks, which is a shame because his game vs Effort was probably among my favorites in the last season of the ASL.


Oh yeah that game was awesome. In general Rain seems to be pretty good atm, one of the better toss players in bw.
No chance to make it into the top8 though i think.
TBLS are a sure bet i would imagine, then there are big streamers like terror who might wanna participate (which would be bad for the quality of the tournament imo).
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
February 28 2017 17:29 GMT
#125
On March 01 2017 02:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 02:18 Elentos wrote:
On March 01 2017 02:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 01 2017 02:14 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 01 2017 01:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:

Still a bit sad because someone like Rain has pretty much no chance to get in now



May I ask why?

Well i don't see him being popular enough to be in the top8 of fan votes.

On March 01 2017 02:15 Elentos wrote:
On March 01 2017 02:14 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 01 2017 01:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:

Still a bit sad because someone like Rain has pretty much no chance to get in now



May I ask why?

He's a big name in SC2 but not really in BW. In a popularity vote like this he's unlikely to get top 10 or better.


I doubt he would make it in sc2 either (fan vote), i might be wrong though.

He'd have a much better shot since he's basically a legend in SC2. He's one of the best things to ever happen to SC2 Protoss. Maybe the best.

Of course the first 4 spots in a popularity vote would all be Terrans.


Oh i am not denying that, imo Rain is one of the most important players in sc2 for sure. But that doesn't necessarily translate into a lot of fans. Hard to say for sure, though he surely had the looks so he probably had a lot of fans :D

He'd have every Protoss fan on his side. So like 20% of the player base
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
February 28 2017 17:33 GMT
#126
was it expected ? anyway good news
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
February 28 2017 17:35 GMT
#127
On March 01 2017 02:33 Makro wrote:
was it expected ? anyway good news

SPOTV has been teasing an SSL continuation for a month or so yeah.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
February 28 2017 17:35 GMT
#128
Whoa those are some pretty good prizes in terms of money and WCS points. Really looking forward to this now.
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evolsiefil
Profile Joined October 2015
143 Posts
February 28 2017 17:35 GMT
#129
pretty smart decision doing a hybrid. we need to get rid of that sc2 ded gaem broodwar on the rise mindset. instead we should focus on the fact that the starcraft franchise in general is amazing and alive. cheers to spotv.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 28 2017 17:37 GMT
#130
On March 01 2017 02:29 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 02:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 01 2017 02:18 Elentos wrote:
On March 01 2017 02:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 01 2017 02:14 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 01 2017 01:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:

Still a bit sad because someone like Rain has pretty much no chance to get in now



May I ask why?

Well i don't see him being popular enough to be in the top8 of fan votes.

On March 01 2017 02:15 Elentos wrote:
On March 01 2017 02:14 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 01 2017 01:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:

Still a bit sad because someone like Rain has pretty much no chance to get in now



May I ask why?

He's a big name in SC2 but not really in BW. In a popularity vote like this he's unlikely to get top 10 or better.


I doubt he would make it in sc2 either (fan vote), i might be wrong though.

He'd have a much better shot since he's basically a legend in SC2. He's one of the best things to ever happen to SC2 Protoss. Maybe the best.

Of course the first 4 spots in a popularity vote would all be Terrans.


Oh i am not denying that, imo Rain is one of the most important players in sc2 for sure. But that doesn't necessarily translate into a lot of fans. Hard to say for sure, though he surely had the looks so he probably had a lot of fans :D

He'd have every Protoss fan on his side. So like 20% of the player base


Haha. I think Zest or herO would have more fans? Dunno.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
February 28 2017 17:39 GMT
#131
On March 01 2017 02:37 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 02:29 Elentos wrote:
On March 01 2017 02:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 01 2017 02:18 Elentos wrote:
On March 01 2017 02:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 01 2017 02:14 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 01 2017 01:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:

Still a bit sad because someone like Rain has pretty much no chance to get in now



May I ask why?

Well i don't see him being popular enough to be in the top8 of fan votes.

On March 01 2017 02:15 Elentos wrote:
On March 01 2017 02:14 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 01 2017 01:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:

Still a bit sad because someone like Rain has pretty much no chance to get in now



May I ask why?

He's a big name in SC2 but not really in BW. In a popularity vote like this he's unlikely to get top 10 or better.


I doubt he would make it in sc2 either (fan vote), i might be wrong though.

He'd have a much better shot since he's basically a legend in SC2. He's one of the best things to ever happen to SC2 Protoss. Maybe the best.

Of course the first 4 spots in a popularity vote would all be Terrans.


Oh i am not denying that, imo Rain is one of the most important players in sc2 for sure. But that doesn't necessarily translate into a lot of fans. Hard to say for sure, though he surely had the looks so he probably had a lot of fans :D

He'd have every Protoss fan on his side. So like 20% of the player base


Haha. I think Zest or herO would have more fans? Dunno.

If he made a comeback to SC2 I think a lot of people would be super happy though. Not gonna happen unfortunately.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 28 2017 17:44 GMT
#132
On March 01 2017 02:39 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 02:37 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 01 2017 02:29 Elentos wrote:
On March 01 2017 02:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 01 2017 02:18 Elentos wrote:
On March 01 2017 02:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 01 2017 02:14 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 01 2017 01:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:

Still a bit sad because someone like Rain has pretty much no chance to get in now



May I ask why?

Well i don't see him being popular enough to be in the top8 of fan votes.

On March 01 2017 02:15 Elentos wrote:
On March 01 2017 02:14 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 01 2017 01:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:

Still a bit sad because someone like Rain has pretty much no chance to get in now



May I ask why?

He's a big name in SC2 but not really in BW. In a popularity vote like this he's unlikely to get top 10 or better.


I doubt he would make it in sc2 either (fan vote), i might be wrong though.

He'd have a much better shot since he's basically a legend in SC2. He's one of the best things to ever happen to SC2 Protoss. Maybe the best.

Of course the first 4 spots in a popularity vote would all be Terrans.


Oh i am not denying that, imo Rain is one of the most important players in sc2 for sure. But that doesn't necessarily translate into a lot of fans. Hard to say for sure, though he surely had the looks so he probably had a lot of fans :D

He'd have every Protoss fan on his side. So like 20% of the player base


Haha. I think Zest or herO would have more fans? Dunno.

If he made a comeback to SC2 I think a lot of people would be super happy though. Not gonna happen unfortunately.

Hm yeah would be interesting for sure. Especially because Rain is one of the guys who could be GOAT.
I enjoy his play in bw though so there is that :D
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
February 28 2017 17:45 GMT
#133
On March 01 2017 02:35 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 02:33 Makro wrote:
was it expected ? anyway good news

SPOTV has been teasing an SSL continuation for a month or so yeah.

now you say it, i remember spotting it on twitter a while ago, but totally forgot about it

nicely done then
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Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 19:04:56
February 28 2017 18:06 GMT
#134
On March 01 2017 02:15 Elentos wrote:

He's a big name in SC2 but not really in BW. In a popularity vote like this he's unlikely to get top 10 or better.



On March 01 2017 02:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:

He's a big name in SC2 but not really in BW. In a popularity vote like this he's unlikely to get top 10 or better.




Thanks guys

I'm not sure if Rain could win a popularity vote in sc2 because he left the scene since quite a long time. But in his prime he would have been chosed, he played so well I found myself lacking of argument against protoss

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Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
February 28 2017 18:46 GMT
#135
Huge news for the franchise, good move, spotv
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therabit
Profile Joined August 2011
795 Posts
February 28 2017 18:50 GMT
#136
Nice. I really like SSL production from the past 2 years
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 19:33:04
February 28 2017 19:32 GMT
#137
Really excited for the BW portion, hoping it can live up to the expectations and keep going into the future.

Great news for the SC2 guys as well of course!
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iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
February 28 2017 19:49 GMT
#138
This is awesome, are there any dates announced yet?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
February 28 2017 19:51 GMT
#139
On March 01 2017 02:35 evolsiefil wrote:
pretty smart decision doing a hybrid. we need to get rid of that sc2 ded gaem broodwar on the rise mindset. instead we should focus on the fact that the starcraft franchise in general is amazing and alive. cheers to spotv.

We absolutely do NOT have to get rid of the BW on the rise mindset!

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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24194 Posts
February 28 2017 19:57 GMT
#140
On March 01 2017 02:18 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 02:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 01 2017 02:14 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 01 2017 01:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:

Still a bit sad because someone like Rain has pretty much no chance to get in now



May I ask why?

Well i don't see him being popular enough to be in the top8 of fan votes.

On March 01 2017 02:15 Elentos wrote:
On March 01 2017 02:14 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 01 2017 01:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:

Still a bit sad because someone like Rain has pretty much no chance to get in now



May I ask why?

He's a big name in SC2 but not really in BW. In a popularity vote like this he's unlikely to get top 10 or better.


I doubt he would make it in sc2 either (fan vote), i might be wrong though.

He's one of the best things to ever happen to SC2 Protoss. Maybe the best.

Definitely the best.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
February 28 2017 20:01 GMT
#141
On March 01 2017 04:49 iamho wrote:
This is awesome, are there any dates announced yet?

Qualifiers on the 8th/9th, tournament start on March 20.
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Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 20:28:46
February 28 2017 20:28 GMT
#142
guys, this is probably the best league format we ever had

definition of group of dead may not even exist and all the favorites clashes

and I hope foreigners considering to take a part in qualis
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Majick
Profile Joined August 2016
416 Posts
February 28 2017 21:11 GMT
#143
Wow, what a great league format!
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24194 Posts
February 28 2017 21:15 GMT
#144
It's an atypical format but I can see it working
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
February 28 2017 21:28 GMT
#145
I'm a bit confused. Are the premiere SC2 players and classic BW players going to go head to head also?

Or are the players only going to stick to their respective game, but the matches will be shown in tandem?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
February 28 2017 21:42 GMT
#146
On March 01 2017 06:28 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
I'm a bit confused. Are the premiere SC2 players and classic BW players going to go head to head also?

Or are the players only going to stick to their respective game, but the matches will be shown in tandem?

The second one.
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Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain877 Posts
February 28 2017 22:21 GMT
#147
This a great news!

2016=year of foreignerworld
2017=year of Korea
2018=balance?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 28 2017 23:17 GMT
#148
Any word on what time the broadcasts will start? Hoping it's not the usual 2-3am pacific time
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
March 01 2017 00:12 GMT
#149
holy shit this is hype! can't wait to see this, formats seem very intriguing!
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10057 Posts
March 01 2017 00:12 GMT
#150
hyped AF but im a little confused about the format... will check it again when im no tired. SSL is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1707 Posts
March 01 2017 01:00 GMT
#151
only invitational for bw? can we vote? tbls please!!!
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TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-01 01:23:01
March 01 2017 01:18 GMT
#152
On March 01 2017 10:00 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
only invitational for bw? can we vote? tbls please!!!

Don't worry. TBLS is gonna be voted into the tournament anyways alongside Terror, Britney, Larva and one of Sea, BeSt, EffOrt, hero. Probably Sea or BeSt because of popularity
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 01 2017 01:27 GMT
#153
On March 01 2017 10:18 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 10:00 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
only invitational for bw? can we vote? tbls please!!!

Don't worry. TBLS is gonna be voted into the tournament anyways alongside Terror, Britney, Larva and one of Sea, BeSt, EffOrt, hero. Probably Sea or BeSt because of popularity

I really hope you cannot vote for Terror/Britney. The league should be somewhat competitive and with only 8 spots in the first season 1/4 of them being wasted would be sad. On the other hand it would be arbitrary to not allow them to participate so yeah not a good solution either.
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Aegwynn
Profile Joined September 2015
Italy460 Posts
March 01 2017 04:01 GMT
#154
I always wanted to see this kind of format in starcraft scene, pretty exiting news!
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
March 01 2017 12:21 GMT
#155
On March 01 2017 10:27 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 10:18 TheNewEra wrote:
On March 01 2017 10:00 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
only invitational for bw? can we vote? tbls please!!!

Don't worry. TBLS is gonna be voted into the tournament anyways alongside Terror, Britney, Larva and one of Sea, BeSt, EffOrt, hero. Probably Sea or BeSt because of popularity

I really hope you cannot vote for Terror/Britney. The league should be somewhat competitive and with only 8 spots in the first season 1/4 of them being wasted would be sad. On the other hand it would be arbitrary to not allow them to participate so yeah not a good solution either.

I share the same concerns. It's really annoying how it feels like people are so excited for the greats of Brood War being back, that they feel the need to go for invitational/streamer showmatches for the rest of our days. I'm sure all these players have the competitive fire still, but its like the powers that be are putting the storyline ahead of the competition, which isnt good long-term.
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 01 2017 12:50 GMT
#156
Best tournament format for a long long time.
Zest fanboy.
Dungeontai2
Profile Joined March 2017
2 Posts
March 01 2017 13:55 GMT
#157
SSL pretty much shows SC and SC2 are on the same level now: no korean teams, no korean pros in teams, unpopular overall
I was wondering how long it takes a company to fuck a game dead, got my answer now. i just genuinely hope something bad happens to blizzard as a company and DK as a person.

please continue trying to kill a dead game, fuck blizzard with a cactus and also fuck the mod, who is gonna ban me after he reads this.
Dungeontai2
Profile Joined March 2017
2 Posts
March 01 2017 13:56 GMT
#158
and fuck you TL-mods, you arrogant pieces of dogshit


User was banned for this post.
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Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
March 01 2017 13:58 GMT
#159
On March 01 2017 22:56 Dungeontai2 wrote:
and fuck you TL-mods, you arrogant pieces of dogshit

is everything ok sweetie ? Missed your nap-nap ?
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
March 01 2017 14:33 GMT
#160
On March 01 2017 22:55 Dungeontai2 wrote:
SSL pretty much shows SC and SC2 are on the same level now: no korean teams, no korean pros in teams, unpopular overall
I was wondering how long it takes a company to fuck a game dead, got my answer now. i just genuinely hope something bad happens to blizzard as a company and DK as a person.

please continue trying to kill a dead game, fuck blizzard with a cactus and also fuck the mod, who is gonna ban me after he reads this.

Just another clown getting mad at video games...
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
March 01 2017 19:11 GMT
#161
On March 01 2017 22:56 Dungeontai2 wrote:
and fuck you TL-mods, you arrogant pieces of dogshit


User was banned for this post.


absolutely incredible
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
March 01 2017 23:05 GMT
#162
On March 02 2017 04:11 munch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 22:56 Dungeontai2 wrote:
and fuck you TL-mods, you arrogant pieces of dogshit


User was banned for this post.


absolutely incredible

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Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
March 02 2017 01:12 GMT
#163
My two favourite games, played by the best players. How could I not be overjoyed? :D
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oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
March 02 2017 16:10 GMT
#164
On March 02 2017 04:11 munch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 22:56 Dungeontai2 wrote:
and fuck you TL-mods, you arrogant pieces of dogshit


User was banned for this post.


absolutely incredible

funny thing is that he got angry all by himself with no context or anything ^^
I like starcraft
oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-02 16:11:59
March 02 2017 16:10 GMT
#165
oops wrong thread
I like starcraft
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
March 02 2017 18:49 GMT
#166
On March 03 2017 01:10 oGoZenob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2017 04:11 munch wrote:
On March 01 2017 22:56 Dungeontai2 wrote:
and fuck you TL-mods, you arrogant pieces of dogshit


User was banned for this post.


absolutely incredible

funny thing is that he got angry all by himself with no context or anything ^^

If it's RedAlert1 (based on my research I am inclined to suspect this), he was banned recently for similar sentiments so he came out guns blazing.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 02 2017 18:57 GMT
#167
On March 03 2017 03:49 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2017 01:10 oGoZenob wrote:
On March 02 2017 04:11 munch wrote:
On March 01 2017 22:56 Dungeontai2 wrote:
and fuck you TL-mods, you arrogant pieces of dogshit


User was banned for this post.


absolutely incredible

funny thing is that he got angry all by himself with no context or anything ^^

If it's RedAlert1 (based on my research I am inclined to suspect this), he was banned recently for similar sentiments so he came out guns blazing.

Well I'd assume his previous account was Dungeontay. Because of the creative username.
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Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3329 Posts
March 02 2017 19:10 GMT
#168
Wow that's a lot of money ~ LETS GO BW 5EVER
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AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
March 03 2017 21:47 GMT
#169
More StarCraft, good news.

And an interesting tournament format with it.
wmfms
Profile Joined February 2015
6 Posts
March 07 2017 13:26 GMT
#170
Will there be a stream provided for tmr's qualifier?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 07 2017 13:42 GMT
#171
No info yet but probably not.
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
March 07 2017 13:48 GMT
#172
Tbf ssl normally do have a kr qualifier stream at least
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 07 2017 13:57 GMT
#173
On March 07 2017 22:48 munch wrote:
Tbf ssl normally do have a kr qualifier stream at least

True.

I reckon though if they do a stream it'd only be for the 2nd stage on Thursday. 5 GSL style groups are easier for them to monitor and get matches in than all those separate brackets.
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Hadronsbecrazy
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom551 Posts
March 07 2017 14:43 GMT
#174
FeelsGoodMan more sc2 :D
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egernya
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada352 Posts
March 07 2017 14:49 GMT
#175
https://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=5536543#!0
The schedule has changed. It will be done in a day, and every group plays at the same time (morning)
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 07 2017 15:20 GMT
#176
Hm will they still do the gsl style groups?
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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
March 07 2017 18:34 GMT
#177
Brackets for Round 1 will be here.
Brackets for Round 2 will be here
Aiingel
Profile Joined May 2016
243 Posts
March 07 2017 21:49 GMT
#178
On March 08 2017 03:34 Solar424 wrote:
Brackets for Round 1 will be here.
Brackets for Round 2 will be here


Thank you!!
Alarak89
Profile Joined January 2016
United States882 Posts
March 08 2017 01:16 GMT
#179
I guess the qualifier should start in few hours, right?
sOs is THE ONLY player I pay attention to
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 08 2017 02:24 GMT
#180
Good question actually
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 08 2017 02:42 GMT
#181


There it is
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 02:54:06
March 08 2017 02:52 GMT
#182
On March 08 2017 03:34 Solar424 wrote:
Brackets for Round 1 will be here.
Brackets for Round 2 will be here

Brackets are beginning to go up. Apparently Kelazhur's name is just Diego, no last name.

edit: can anyone get the other groups to load? I can only get one
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 08 2017 02:57 GMT
#183
On March 08 2017 11:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2017 03:34 Solar424 wrote:
Brackets for Round 1 will be here.
Brackets for Round 2 will be here

Brackets are beginning to go up. Apparently Kelazhur's name is just Diego, no last name.

edit: can anyone get the other groups to load? I can only get one

At the bottom of the page you can change groups
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10057 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 03:00:20
March 08 2017 02:57 GMT
#184
On March 08 2017 11:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2017 03:34 Solar424 wrote:
Brackets for Round 1 will be here.
Brackets for Round 2 will be here

Brackets are beginning to go up. Apparently Kelazhur's name is just Diego, no last name.

edit: can anyone get the other groups to load? I can only get one

all the links for the other groups redirect to the 1st one :/

edit: thx The_Red_Viper
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
March 08 2017 03:13 GMT
#185
There are 2 Classic's in the bracket. Fortunately the amateur one was a no-show, so that confusion was averted.
Darkn3ssFallz
Profile Joined April 2013
Australia114 Posts
March 08 2017 03:29 GMT
#186
Scarlett and MajOr both eliminated.
[SKT1.Rain] is the Postman Protoss, because by.Sun or by.Rain he delivers.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 03:33:48
March 08 2017 03:33 GMT
#187
(P)NightMare 2-0 (Z)Scarlett ?!? Uh that's unexpected... she doesn't even get a loser's bracket :/
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showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
March 08 2017 03:34 GMT
#188
Nightmare 2-0 Scarlett.

This makes me smile
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Linkinparktoss
Profile Joined March 2017
16 Posts
March 08 2017 03:36 GMT
#189
Hey so is there a stream or just the results?
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
March 08 2017 03:37 GMT
#190
I fully expect jjakji to beat TY.
Darkn3ssFallz
Profile Joined April 2013
Australia114 Posts
March 08 2017 03:42 GMT
#191
Jim and NoRegreT are also knocked out. Not a good day for foreigners so far =/
[SKT1.Rain] is the Postman Protoss, because by.Sun or by.Rain he delivers.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 03:43:27
March 08 2017 03:42 GMT
#192
Nightmare 2-0 Scarlett
Seed 2-0 NoRegret
Creator 2-1 MajOr
Rogue 2-0 Jim
Hush 2-1 Toodming

Foreigners plz

Someone named Aswell 2-0'd Pet though, that's neat
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 08 2017 03:46 GMT
#193
WTF this is today?

Oh god foreigner getting trash
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DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
March 08 2017 03:48 GMT
#194
AWWWWWWWW DAMN!!!
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 08 2017 03:53 GMT
#195
(P)Cloudy 2-1 (T)KeeN

FOREIGNER HOPE
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Darkn3ssFallz
Profile Joined April 2013
Australia114 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 03:58:17
March 08 2017 03:56 GMT
#196
Creator 2-0'd Dark :O
He plays vs ByuL next in the qualifying match.

Classic vs Ryung to see who advances to first in Group 4.

Go my fellow protoss >:D

EDIT: and jjakji 2-1 TY
[SKT1.Rain] is the Postman Protoss, because by.Sun or by.Rain he delivers.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
March 08 2017 03:56 GMT
#197
Lol yup Jjakji beat TY.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 08 2017 03:56 GMT
#198
(T)jjakji vs (T)Cure to qualify
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
March 08 2017 03:57 GMT
#199
On March 08 2017 12:34 showstealer1829 wrote:
Nightmare 2-0 Scarlett.

This makes me smile

What did she do to you?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 03:59:12
March 08 2017 03:58 GMT
#200
(P)Classic vs (T)Ryung to qualify
(T)ByuN vs (T)Maru to qualify
(P)Creator vs (Z)ByuL to qualify


Also (Z)Losira vs (T)Kelazhur has to be epic
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 03:59:07
March 08 2017 03:58 GMT
#201
On March 08 2017 12:57 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2017 12:34 showstealer1829 wrote:
Nightmare 2-0 Scarlett.

This makes me smile

What did she do to you?

She's a dirty foreigner who played a glorious Korean
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 08 2017 03:59 GMT
#202
On March 08 2017 12:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
(P)Classic vs (T)Ryung to qualify
(T)ByuN vs (T)Maru to qualify
(P)Creator vs (Z)ByuL to qualify


Also (Z)Losira vs (T)Kelazhur has to be epic

quote for visibility
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 04:00:46
March 08 2017 03:59 GMT
#203
(P)Here we go for the interesting result

(P)Creator 2-0 (Z)Dark, (Z)Dark in the lower bracket
(Z)soO 2-1 (T)Bunny
(P)HerO 2-1 (Z)Impact
(T)INnoVation 2-0 (Z)Curious
(T)jjakji 2-1 (T)TY

All the losers are still in lower bracket.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 04:01:08
March 08 2017 04:00 GMT
#204
Creator beats Dark wtf.
I thought SSL was like his thing. No finals appearance this time?
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 08 2017 04:00 GMT
#205
Losira 2-1 Kelazhur

ALL ABOARD THE CLOUDY HYPE TRAIN CHOO CHOO
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SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
March 08 2017 04:01 GMT
#206
On March 08 2017 13:00 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Losira 2-1 Kelazhur

ALL ABOARD THE CLOUDY HYPE TRAIN CHOO CHOO

WHAT ABOUT RUSHCRAZY D;
Icebound Esports
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 08 2017 04:02 GMT
#207
ByuN vs Maru to qualify. Sucks that they're in the same group.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 08 2017 04:02 GMT
#208
On March 08 2017 13:01 SNSeigifried wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2017 13:00 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Losira 2-1 Kelazhur

ALL ABOARD THE CLOUDY HYPE TRAIN CHOO CHOO

WHAT ABOUT RUSHCRAZY D;

oh THATS who Aswell is. Okay he can be hype too
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 08 2017 04:02 GMT
#209
(P)Dear 2-0 (P)Super , (P)herO[jOin] 2-1 (Z)Impact
(P)Dear vs (P)herO[jOin] to qualify
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Darkn3ssFallz
Profile Joined April 2013
Australia114 Posts
March 08 2017 04:04 GMT
#210
On March 08 2017 13:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
(P)Dear 2-0 (P)Super , (P)herO[jOin] 2-1 (Z)Impact
(P)Dear vs (P)herO[jOin] to qualify


Go Dear!!!!!!!
[SKT1.Rain] is the Postman Protoss, because by.Sun or by.Rain he delivers.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 08 2017 04:04 GMT
#211
oh shit I should have looked at the qualifier dates. Missed out on the hype
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 04:06:25
March 08 2017 04:05 GMT
#212
Looking at the way Round 2 groups are decided, there's a pretty good chance Group D is gonna be TY, either Maru or ByuN, Classic, and INnoVation.

Talk about a Group of Death. In the qualifiers to boot!
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 08 2017 04:06 GMT
#213
(P)Zest 2-0 (P)Seed, (Z)soO 2-1 (T)Bunny
(P)Zest vs (Z)soO to qualify
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 08 2017 04:06 GMT
#214
On March 08 2017 13:05 pvsnp wrote:
Looking at the way Round 2 groups are decided, there's a pretty good chance Group D is gonna be TY, either Maru or ByuN, Classic, and INnoVation.

Talk about a Group of Death. In the qualifiers to boot!

TY with a buncha scrubs?
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 08 2017 04:09 GMT
#215
On March 08 2017 13:05 pvsnp wrote:
Looking at the way Round 2 groups are decided, there's a pretty good chance Group D is gonna be TY, either Maru or ByuN, Classic, and INnoVation.

Talk about a Group of Death. In the qualifiers to boot!

Yeah that sucks :/ TY shouldn't have lost to jjakji ...
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
March 08 2017 04:10 GMT
#216
On March 08 2017 13:09 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2017 13:05 pvsnp wrote:
Looking at the way Round 2 groups are decided, there's a pretty good chance Group D is gonna be TY, either Maru or ByuN, Classic, and INnoVation.

Talk about a Group of Death. In the qualifiers to boot!

Yeah that sucks :/ TY shouldn't have lost to jjakji ...

Hating on my boy jjakji i see i will let you know jjakji barely didn't get out of the group of death at iem !!!
Icebound Esports
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 08 2017 04:12 GMT
#217
On March 08 2017 13:10 SNSeigifried wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2017 13:09 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 08 2017 13:05 pvsnp wrote:
Looking at the way Round 2 groups are decided, there's a pretty good chance Group D is gonna be TY, either Maru or ByuN, Classic, and INnoVation.

Talk about a Group of Death. In the qualifiers to boot!

Yeah that sucks :/ TY shouldn't have lost to jjakji ...

Hating on my boy jjakji i see i will let you know jjakji barely didn't get out of the group of death at iem !!!

Haha not hating but TY surely is the better player
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 08 2017 04:12 GMT
#218
On March 08 2017 13:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2017 13:10 SNSeigifried wrote:
On March 08 2017 13:09 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 08 2017 13:05 pvsnp wrote:
Looking at the way Round 2 groups are decided, there's a pretty good chance Group D is gonna be TY, either Maru or ByuN, Classic, and INnoVation.

Talk about a Group of Death. In the qualifiers to boot!

Yeah that sucks :/ TY shouldn't have lost to jjakji ...

Hating on my boy jjakji i see i will let you know jjakji barely didn't get out of the group of death at iem !!!

Haha not hating but TY surely is the better player

TY > Mvp at his peak
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 08 2017 04:12 GMT
#219
Yeah that sucks :/ TY shouldn't have lost to jjakji ...

I get the feeling that TY just gives absolutely no fucks about playing well anymore.
He's rich beyond rich and already has a Blizzcon seed. What more does he want?
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 08 2017 04:13 GMT
#220
On March 08 2017 13:12 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
Yeah that sucks :/ TY shouldn't have lost to jjakji ...

I get the feeling that TY just gives absolutely no fucks about playing well anymore.
He's rich beyond rich and already has a Blizzcon seed. What more does he want?

More money and prestige? It's not like he'd have gotten worse in the two days since IEM
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SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
March 08 2017 04:14 GMT
#221
On March 08 2017 13:12 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
Yeah that sucks :/ TY shouldn't have lost to jjakji ...

I get the feeling that TY just gives absolutely no fucks about playing well anymore.
He's rich beyond rich and already has a Blizzcon seed. What more does he want?

Just an fyi 300k is not rich lol
Icebound Esports
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 08 2017 04:14 GMT
#222
On March 08 2017 13:12 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
Yeah that sucks :/ TY shouldn't have lost to jjakji ...

I get the feeling that TY just gives absolutely no fucks about playing well anymore.
He's rich beyond rich and already has a Blizzcon seed. What more does he want?

a Korean title and more money?
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SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 04:18:14
March 08 2017 04:15 GMT
#223
(T)aLive 2-0 (P)Hush
(T)jjakji 2-0 (T)Cure to qualify
(Z)Solar 2-0 (Z)Losira
(P)Billowy 2-0 (P)NightMare eliminating him.
Icebound Esports
Darkn3ssFallz
Profile Joined April 2013
Australia114 Posts
March 08 2017 04:15 GMT
#224
On March 08 2017 13:12 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
Yeah that sucks :/ TY shouldn't have lost to jjakji ...

I get the feeling that TY just gives absolutely no fucks about playing well anymore.
He's rich beyond rich and already has a Blizzcon seed. What more does he want?


At least 300 viewers for his victory stream last night. I think he capped at ~250 =[
[SKT1.Rain] is the Postman Protoss, because by.Sun or by.Rain he delivers.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
March 08 2017 04:15 GMT
#225
On March 08 2017 13:14 SNSeigifried wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2017 13:12 pvsnp wrote:
Yeah that sucks :/ TY shouldn't have lost to jjakji ...

I get the feeling that TY just gives absolutely no fucks about playing well anymore.
He's rich beyond rich and already has a Blizzcon seed. What more does he want?

Just an fyi 300k is not rich lol

It is by SC2 standards
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 08 2017 04:16 GMT
#226
More money and prestige? It's not like he'd have gotten worse in the two days since IEM

I guess but I fully expect him to drop off at least a bit, and I can't blame him if he does. I find it hard to believe that he will just put his head down and practice harder than ever when he's basically got it made right now.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 08 2017 04:17 GMT
#227
On March 08 2017 13:15 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2017 13:14 SNSeigifried wrote:
On March 08 2017 13:12 pvsnp wrote:
Yeah that sucks :/ TY shouldn't have lost to jjakji ...

I get the feeling that TY just gives absolutely no fucks about playing well anymore.
He's rich beyond rich and already has a Blizzcon seed. What more does he want?

Just an fyi 300k is not rich lol

It is by SC2 standards

It's the most any SC2 player made in a single year.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 04:22:47
March 08 2017 04:17 GMT
#228
Just an fyi 300k is not rich lol

Over a lifetime, not at all. Over a few years, not really.
Over 3 months? That's pretty fucking rich.

Not very common in life that you get a lump sum that big all at once.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 08 2017 04:18 GMT
#229
(Z)Solar 2-0 (Z)Losira
(P)Stats 2-1 (Z)Rogue
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SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
March 08 2017 04:19 GMT
#230
On March 08 2017 13:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2017 13:15 Solar424 wrote:
On March 08 2017 13:14 SNSeigifried wrote:
On March 08 2017 13:12 pvsnp wrote:
Yeah that sucks :/ TY shouldn't have lost to jjakji ...

I get the feeling that TY just gives absolutely no fucks about playing well anymore.
He's rich beyond rich and already has a Blizzcon seed. What more does he want?

Just an fyi 300k is not rich lol

It is by SC2 standards

It's the most any SC2 player made in a single year.

actually ByuN had him beat last year by 2k :D
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Winnings
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 08 2017 04:19 GMT
#231
actually ByuN had him beat last year by 2k :D
(Wiki)Winnings

TY is waiting for Afreeca to send him his GSL Ro8 check for $4200.
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SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 04:20:51
March 08 2017 04:19 GMT
#232
(Z)Leenock 2-0 (P)Rushcrazy
(P)Patience 2-0 (P)Cloudy
Icebound Esports
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 08 2017 04:20 GMT
#233
On March 08 2017 13:19 SNSeigifried wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2017 13:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On March 08 2017 13:15 Solar424 wrote:
On March 08 2017 13:14 SNSeigifried wrote:
On March 08 2017 13:12 pvsnp wrote:
Yeah that sucks :/ TY shouldn't have lost to jjakji ...

I get the feeling that TY just gives absolutely no fucks about playing well anymore.
He's rich beyond rich and already has a Blizzcon seed. What more does he want?

Just an fyi 300k is not rich lol

It is by SC2 standards

It's the most any SC2 player made in a single year.

actually ByuN had him beat last year by 2k :D
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Winnings

Ah I had heard differently.

Well I really doubt TY will fail to make 2k more this year so that'll change
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 04:21:48
March 08 2017 04:21 GMT
#234
Ah I had heard differently.

Well I really doubt TY will fail to make 2k more this year so that'll change

TY is guaranteed $4200 from GSL, and $10,000 from Blizzcon. He's already made more, he just hasn't gotten the checks yet.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 04:23:57
March 08 2017 04:21 GMT
#235
(P)Patience 2-0 (P)Cloudy, the dream is not dead Cloudy is still in lower bracket!
(P)Classic 2-0 (T)Ryung and move on to the next round
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Darkn3ssFallz
Profile Joined April 2013
Australia114 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 04:26:07
March 08 2017 04:22 GMT
#236
NightMare 0-2 김도경 (P) and is eliminated. This guy took a map off Classic :O

edit: 김도경 = Billowy
[SKT1.Rain] is the Postman Protoss, because by.Sun or by.Rain he delivers.
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
March 08 2017 04:23 GMT
#237
On March 08 2017 13:22 Darkn3ssFallz wrote:
NightMare 0-2 김도경 (P) and is eliminated. This guy took a map off Classic :O

thats Billowy
Icebound Esports
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 08 2017 04:23 GMT
#238
NightMare 0-2 김도경 (P) and is eliminated. This guy took a map off Classic :O

김도경 is Kim Doh Kyung. Billowy.
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SetGuitarsToKill
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Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 04:24:26
March 08 2017 04:23 GMT
#239
On March 08 2017 13:22 Darkn3ssFallz wrote:
NightMare 0-2 김도경 (P) and is eliminated. This guy took a map off Classic :O

He has sick PvP apparently, let's see how his PvT is vs Ryung

edit: n/m it's Billowy that's not as interesting
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 08 2017 04:24 GMT
#240
(P)Classic 2-0 (T)Ryung and qualifies for round 2
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 04:25:08
March 08 2017 04:24 GMT
#241
(P)Classic 2-0 (T)Ryung and qualifies for round 2

Trying to imagine his face as he checks the other guys in his group....

"So who else is gonna join me in Group D?
.....ah, shit."
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Darkn3ssFallz
Profile Joined April 2013
Australia114 Posts
March 08 2017 04:24 GMT
#242
On March 08 2017 13:23 SNSeigifried wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2017 13:22 Darkn3ssFallz wrote:
NightMare 0-2 김도경 (P) and is eliminated. This guy took a map off Classic :O

thats Billowy


Oh. Not that big of a suprise then =/
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Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 04:26:34
March 08 2017 04:26 GMT
#243
(Z)ByuL 2-1 (P)Creator
(Z)Dark 2-1 (P)Trust
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 08 2017 04:26 GMT
#244
(Z)Dark 2-1 (P)Trust, (Z)Dark vs (P)Creator to advance
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Nakajin
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Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 04:30:35
March 08 2017 04:26 GMT
#245
(Z)Impact 2-0 (P)Super, (P)Super is out

(T)TY 2-0 (P)Hurricane, next up vs (T)Cure to advance

(P)Zest 2-0 (Z)soO (Z)soO vs (T)Bunny in the lower bracket final
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 08 2017 04:28 GMT
#246
(T)Bunny 2-0 (P)Seed, (P)Seed is out
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 08 2017 04:29 GMT
#247
wow ByuN Maru and Leenock fighting for 2 spots and I like all 3
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Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 08 2017 04:30 GMT
#248
(P)Zest 2-0 (Z)soO, (Z)soO plays vs (T)Bunny to advance
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Alarak89
Profile Joined January 2016
United States882 Posts
March 08 2017 04:32 GMT
#249
Hmm, seems like sOs vs Hero is a an epic PvP ever
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Profile Joined April 2013
Australia114 Posts
March 08 2017 04:34 GMT
#250
Big brother beats down little brother - ByuN 2-1 Maru to qualify.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 08 2017 04:34 GMT
#251
(T)ByuN 2-1 (T)Maru => advances
(T)Maru plays vs sabo to advance
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Nakajin
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Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 04:35:24
March 08 2017 04:34 GMT
#252
(T)ByuN 2-1 (T)Maru, (T)Maru vs some guy named Sabo
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Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
March 08 2017 04:34 GMT
#253
On March 08 2017 13:34 Nakajin wrote:
Buyn 2-1 (T)Maru, (T)Maru vs some guy named Sabo

Sabo = Leenock
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 08 2017 04:39 GMT
#254
good to see ByuN's TvT is not hopeless. But maybe Maru's is just not that good lately either
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Last Edited: 2017-03-08 04:41:48
March 08 2017 04:41 GMT
#255
good to see ByuN's TvT is not hopeless. But maybe Maru's is just not that good lately either

Well Maru did lose 1-3 to Ryung in GSL, so it can't be that great.
Don't think current TvT suits ByuN or Maru's style very well.
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Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 04:47:17
March 08 2017 04:41 GMT
#256
(Z)Solar 2-0 (P)Trap
(P)HerO 2-0 (P)Dear (P)Dear vs (Z)Impact to qualify
(P)Patience 2-1 (T)INnoVation
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March 08 2017 04:46 GMT
#257
(P)Patience 2-1 (T)INnoVation
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United States97276 Posts
March 08 2017 04:49 GMT
#258
On March 08 2017 13:41 Nakajin wrote:
(Z)Solar 2-0 (P)Trap
(P)HerO 2-0 (P)Dear (P)Dear vs (Z)Impact to qualify
(P)Patience 2-1 (T)INnoVation

had to double check to make sure that was former cj herO that qualified and not former liquid HerO. would have been a shocker
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March 08 2017 04:50 GMT
#259
On March 08 2017 13:49 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2017 13:41 Nakajin wrote:
(Z)Solar 2-0 (P)Trap
(P)HerO 2-0 (P)Dear (P)Dear vs (Z)Impact to qualify
(P)Patience 2-1 (T)INnoVation

had to double check to make sure that was former cj herO that qualified and not former liquid HerO. would have been a shocker


Oh. I was just about to make fun of Dear for losing to scrub HerO
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Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
March 08 2017 04:50 GMT
#260
(P)Stats 2-0 (T)GuMiho to qualify
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Australia18228 Posts
March 08 2017 04:50 GMT
#261
Patience ruined the group of death
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Aiingel
Profile Joined May 2016
243 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 04:52:32
March 08 2017 04:50 GMT
#262
Why does it seem as though soO is *always* meeting Bunny? They clashed in the upper brackets, and now again in the lower brackets. Even in online cups, they keep getting seeded to play against each other o.O
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 08 2017 04:51 GMT
#263
(P)Stats 2-0 (T)GuMiho
(Z)Rogue 2-1 (T)Forte
(T)GuMiho vs (Z)Rogue next
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Darkn3ssFallz
Profile Joined April 2013
Australia114 Posts
March 08 2017 04:51 GMT
#264
On March 08 2017 13:41 Nakajin wrote:
(Z)Solar 2-0 (P)Trap
(P)HerO 2-0 (P)Dear (P)Dear vs (Z)Impact to qualify
(P)Patience 2-1 (T)INnoVation


Was going to say INno wanted to dodge a potential group of death but Group B has ByuN and Stats...
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pvsnp
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Last Edited: 2017-03-08 04:54:59
March 08 2017 04:51 GMT
#265
Oh so it looks like Group B will be the qualifier Group of Death then. ByuN and Stats in already, and unless Inno chokes against Curious, he will be in there too.
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Last Edited: 2017-03-08 04:53:01
March 08 2017 04:52 GMT
#266
Was going to say INno wanted to dodge a potential group of death but Group B has ByuN and Stats...

ByuN, Stats and Dear/Impact is still easier than Classic, TY, and Maru tho.
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United States1640 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 04:54:38
March 08 2017 04:53 GMT
#267
(Z)Curious 2-0 (P)Cloudy
(Z)Losira 2-1 (Z)Armani
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Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 08 2017 04:53 GMT
#268
E is pretty scary if it ends up as herO/GuMiho/Zest/Dark
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Profile Joined January 2017
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March 08 2017 04:53 GMT
#269
(Z)Curious 2-0 (P)Cloudy

Inno vs Curious rematch for the second spot then.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 08 2017 04:55 GMT
#270
RIP Cloudy the foreign hope, short was your reign
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Darkn3ssFallz
Profile Joined April 2013
Australia114 Posts
March 08 2017 04:56 GMT
#271
On March 08 2017 13:52 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
Was going to say INno wanted to dodge a potential group of death but Group B has ByuN and Stats...

ByuN, Stats and Dear/Impact is still easier than Classic, TY, and Maru tho.


Not by much though. They're tough groups either way.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
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March 08 2017 04:58 GMT
#272
Not by much though. They're tough groups either way.

Well yeah, absurdly tough given that this is a qualifier. But still Dear/Impact definitely aren't on the same level as everyone else.
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Profile Joined February 2015
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March 08 2017 04:58 GMT
#273
Will there be a kr stream for the final round?
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Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 08 2017 05:00 GMT
#274
wtf is happening in sOs vs HerO :O
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
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Last Edited: 2017-03-08 05:00:18
March 08 2017 05:00 GMT
#275
Groups B, D, and E are all shaping up to look very painful...
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March 08 2017 05:01 GMT
#276
On March 08 2017 14:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
wtf is happening in sOs vs HerO :O

probably something weird. like a draw
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Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 05:02:02
March 08 2017 05:01 GMT
#277
(P)sOs 2-1 (P)HerO
(P)sOs 2-1 (T)aLive to qualify
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Darkn3ssFallz
Profile Joined April 2013
Australia114 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 05:04:43
March 08 2017 05:03 GMT
#278
On March 08 2017 13:58 pvsnp wrote:
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Not by much though. They're tough groups either way.

Well yeah, absurdly tough given that this is a qualifier. But still Dear/Impact definitely aren't on the same level as everyone else.


Yea, Impact has been in good form recently but not yet at that level for sure. On the other hand, Dear has only recently started playing in tournaments again and won Olimoleague last night so I'm hoping for a return to glory for him :D

EDIT: Bunny 2-0 soO in losers
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Alarak89
Profile Joined January 2016
United States882 Posts
March 08 2017 05:03 GMT
#279
On March 08 2017 14:01 SNSeigifried wrote:
(P)sOs 2-1 (P)HerO
(P)sOs 2-1 (T)aLive to qualify

There we are. I thought they just went somewhere for lunch already
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 08 2017 05:03 GMT
#280
On March 08 2017 14:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
wtf is happening in sOs vs HerO :O


sOs won! 2-1
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 08 2017 05:04 GMT
#281
(T)TY 2-0 (T)Cure and advances.
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Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
March 08 2017 05:04 GMT
#282
(T)TY 2-0 (T)Cure to qualify
(T)Bunny 2-0 (Z)soO to qualify
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 08 2017 05:05 GMT
#283
On March 08 2017 14:04 SNSeigifried wrote:
(T)TY 2-0 (T)Cure to qualify
(T)Bunny 2-0 (Z)soO to qualify


Jesus Christ soO stop breaking my heart...
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blunderfulguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2016
United States1415 Posts
March 08 2017 05:05 GMT
#284
On March 08 2017 13:58 wmfms wrote:
Will there be a kr stream for the final round?

No, I don't believe anything is streamed until the Challenge or Premier stages. I'm not sure exactly what or where it will be streamed, I just hope it isn't on Dingit unless it's gotten 5,000X better since I was on there last.
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Alarak89
Profile Joined January 2016
United States882 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 05:07:34
March 08 2017 05:06 GMT
#285
soO is out of SSL S1...I hope it's because he's preparing GSL semi hard...
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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
March 08 2017 05:07 GMT
#286
It's a tough time to be Zerg. Looks like we'll have no more than 4 in the last 20.
blunderfulguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2016
United States1415 Posts
March 08 2017 05:08 GMT
#287
soO will win GSL, don't worry! *worries* D:
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 05:09:11
March 08 2017 05:08 GMT
#288
(P)Dear 2-0 (Z)Impact and is in the next round
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SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
March 08 2017 05:08 GMT
#289
(P)Dear 2-0 (Z)Impact to qualify.
(Z)Dark 2-1 (P)Creator to qualify.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 08 2017 05:12 GMT
#290
(T)Ryung 2-1 I think (P)Billowy
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SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
March 08 2017 05:13 GMT
#291
(Z)Losira 2-0 (P)Trap to qualify.
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Linkinparktoss
Profile Joined March 2017
16 Posts
March 08 2017 05:17 GMT
#292
group E looks epic
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
March 08 2017 05:25 GMT
#293
Btw we can probably assume that (T)Dream (Z)DRGLing (Z)Symbol and (Z)HyuN all retired
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Darkn3ssFallz
Profile Joined April 2013
Australia114 Posts
March 08 2017 05:26 GMT
#294
Not updated in groups but Maru has been placed in Group D for final qualifier.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
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Last Edited: 2017-03-08 05:30:29
March 08 2017 05:27 GMT
#295
Not updated in groups but Maru has been placed in Group D for final qualifier.

Same for INnoVation in Group B.
No such luck for Groups 2 and 7 though.
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United States1640 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 05:49:46
March 08 2017 05:45 GMT
#296
(P)Hush 2-1 (P)HerO
(T)Maru 2-0 (Z)Leenock
(T)INnoVation 2-0 (Z)Curious
(T)GuMiho 2-1 (Z)Rogue
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CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3374 Posts
March 08 2017 05:50 GMT
#297
...all groups are pretty stacked: Group C seems the weaker one but Groups B and E (assuming Gumigod wins) are quite crazy!
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
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Last Edited: 2017-03-08 05:56:05
March 08 2017 05:55 GMT
#298
...all groups are pretty stacked: Group C seems the weaker one but Groups B and E (assuming Gumigod wins) are quite crazy!

You forgot Group D.
B, D, and E all have 3 top-tiers in them.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 08 2017 06:03 GMT
#299
On March 08 2017 14:25 SNSeigifried wrote:
Btw we can probably assume that (T)Dream (Z)DRGLing (Z)Symbol and (Z)HyuN all retired

I think HyuN streams BW on Afreeca now
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Darkn3ssFallz
Profile Joined April 2013
Australia114 Posts
March 08 2017 06:04 GMT
#300
aLive 2-1 Hush, groups are set!
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Alarak89
Profile Joined January 2016
United States882 Posts
March 08 2017 06:05 GMT
#301
So when will group stage 2 start? Right after stage 1 is over?
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Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3374 Posts
March 08 2017 06:11 GMT
#302
Race distribution for the 20 qualified players is:
7 Protoss
9 Terran
4 Zerg
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Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 08 2017 06:14 GMT
#303
Rigged groups, now we can't end up with 9 Terrans and Dark
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Australia18228 Posts
March 08 2017 06:38 GMT
#304
sOs 2-0 Losira
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Profile Joined January 2016
United States882 Posts
March 08 2017 06:41 GMT
#305
Group stage 2 started already, any streams?
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United States882 Posts
March 08 2017 06:42 GMT
#306
Well, there must be a difference between sOs and Trap.
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Australia18228 Posts
March 08 2017 06:47 GMT
#307
Solar 2-0 aLive
INno 2-0 ByuN
TY 2-0 Classic
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Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 06:58:56
March 08 2017 06:52 GMT
#308
Dear 2-1 Stats
herO 2-1 GuMiho
Maru 2-0 Patience
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LaughNgamez
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada523 Posts
March 08 2017 07:04 GMT
#309
So are these 10 players the players locked in for season 2 of SSL as well? From what I understand there is no second qualifier for next season?
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Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 07:06:27
March 08 2017 07:06 GMT
#310
On March 08 2017 16:04 LaughNgamez wrote:
So are these 10 players the players locked in for season 2 of SSL as well? From what I understand there is no second qualifier for next season?


The 10 players who qualify for Premier are guaranteed to be in either Premier or Challenge next season (depending on their placement & promotion results)
Next season qualifier will be 6 slots for Season 2 Challenge
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Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 07:08:34
March 08 2017 07:06 GMT
#311
Ryung 2-1 jjakji
Zest 2-1 Dark
ByuL 2-0 Bunny
sOs 2-0 ByuL & qualifies for Premier
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Alarak89
Profile Joined January 2016
United States882 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 07:11:39
March 08 2017 07:10 GMT
#312
RIP soO, you are already a dead man in GSL...
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
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Last Edited: 2017-03-08 07:16:04
March 08 2017 07:14 GMT
#313
I take that back, Dear beat Stats?
Wow, maybe he's making a comeback. Would be sick.
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Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 08 2017 07:21 GMT
#314
Woah wtf! Didn't even know this was today. I've missed so much f5'ing ><

What stacked groups. Shame there's no stream..
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
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Australia18228 Posts
March 08 2017 07:21 GMT
#315
INno 2-0 Dear & qualifies for Premier
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Australia18228 Posts
March 08 2017 07:28 GMT
#316
Stats 2-1 ByuN
Losira 2-1 Bunny

ByuN & Bunny fall to Challenge
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
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Last Edited: 2017-03-08 07:33:02
March 08 2017 07:32 GMT
#317
ByuN & Bunny fall to Challenge

Damn, sucks for ByuN. He's not doing well at all this year.
But there were too many Terrans here anyhow. Zerg needs to do disproportionately well just to get a good ratio in Ro10.

Also lol Bunny > soO but Losira > Bunny.
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Australia18228 Posts
March 08 2017 07:34 GMT
#318
aLive 2-1 jjakji
Patience 2-1 Classic

jjakji & Classic fall to Challenge
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pvsnp
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Last Edited: 2017-03-08 07:36:41
March 08 2017 07:36 GMT
#319
jjakji & Classic fall to Challenge

3 Terrans a 1 Protoss out already. Hey, we might actually get a nicely even racial distribution for Premier
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Austria24417 Posts
March 08 2017 07:39 GMT
#320
God these groups are tough
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pvsnp
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Last Edited: 2017-03-08 07:40:59
March 08 2017 07:39 GMT
#321
(P)Zest 2-1 (P)HerO to Premier.

God these groups are tough

Well this format is pretty rushed. This is basically the SSL version of GSL Ro32 + Ro16 crammed into 1 day.
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Australia18228 Posts
March 08 2017 07:39 GMT
#322
Zest 2-1 herO & qualifies for Premier
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Austria24417 Posts
March 08 2017 07:40 GMT
#323
On March 08 2017 16:39 Inflicted wrote:
Zest 2-1 herO & qualifies for Premier


Awwwww yeah
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Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 08 2017 07:41 GMT
#324
Dark probably out now that he has to go through herO
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Profile Joined January 2017
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Last Edited: 2017-03-08 07:42:36
March 08 2017 07:42 GMT
#325
Dark probably out now that he has to go through herO

I really hope not, Zerg needs him in the Ro10 for there to be 3 Zergs.
Also his ZvT is awesome and I wanna see it in the finals.
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United States30730 Posts
March 08 2017 07:45 GMT
#326
On March 08 2017 16:42 pvsnp wrote:
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Dark probably out now that he has to go through herO

I really hope not, Zerg needs him in the Ro10 for there to be 3 Zergs.
Also his ZvT is awesome and I wanna see it in the finals.


Yeah, post-patch I'd imagine Dark is going to be quite lethal in ZvT given his corruptor play.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 08 2017 07:45 GMT
#327
Solar 2-0 Ryung & qualifies for Premier
Maru 2-1 TY & qualifies for Premier
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 08 2017 07:51 GMT
#328
Dark 2-1 GuMiho

GuMiho falls to Challenge
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 08 2017 07:53 GMT
#329
Stats 2-0 Dear & advances to Premier

Dear falls to Challenge
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 08 2017 07:54 GMT
#330
Rematch curse gets Dear
Was hoping he was making a comeback.
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 08 2017 07:59 GMT
#331
ByuL 2-1 Losira & advances to Premier

Losira falls to Challenge
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 08 2017 08:04 GMT
#332
Yee ByuL!

Wish both him and Losira could've made it, but the better representative of the Swarm made it.

Can we get a third?!
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
machokj
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria74 Posts
March 08 2017 08:16 GMT
#333
when does the premier start ?
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 08:21:22
March 08 2017 08:19 GMT
#334
aLive 2-0 Ryung & qualifies for Premier

Ryung falls to ChallengeTvT
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 08 2017 08:22 GMT
#335
On March 08 2017 17:16 machokj wrote:
when does the premier start ?


20th
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 08 2017 08:27 GMT
#336
Patience 2-1 TY
Dark 2-0 herO

Patience & Dark qualify for Premier
TY & herO fall to Challenge
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 08 2017 08:27 GMT
#337
(P)Patience advances over (T)TY and (Z)Dark over (P)herO[jOin]
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 08 2017 08:27 GMT
#338
TY ffs -.-
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 08 2017 08:28 GMT
#339
Daarrrrrrrkk
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 08:29:51
March 08 2017 08:29 GMT
#340
Lose to Creator and Zest. Stomp herO. k

3rd Zerg :O
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 08 2017 08:30 GMT
#341
On March 08 2017 17:27 The_Red_Viper wrote:
TY ffs -.-

Patience could never beat TY in HotS but somehow in LotV when Protoss is supposed to have a weak phase he's just fine.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 08 2017 08:30 GMT
#342
4/3/3, praise David
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 08 2017 08:31 GMT
#343
On March 08 2017 17:30 Inflicted wrote:
4/3/3, praise David

Challenge is 3/6/1 what the hell David?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 08:33:41
March 08 2017 08:33 GMT
#344
On March 08 2017 17:31 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2017 17:30 Inflicted wrote:
4/3/3, praise David

Challenge is 3/6/1 what the hell David?


Only took one day for David to cull the Patch Terrans
amazing
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 08 2017 08:36 GMT
#345
On March 08 2017 17:33 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2017 17:31 Elentos wrote:
On March 08 2017 17:30 Inflicted wrote:
4/3/3, praise David

Challenge is 3/6/1 what the hell David?


Only took one day for David to cull the Patch Terrans
amazing

Patch isn't even live yet in Korea and they're dropping like flies. David Kim rules through fear.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
zakadar
Profile Joined December 2015
Germany409 Posts
March 08 2017 08:48 GMT
#346
TY is still celebrating his victory
TY my boy gogo
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 08 2017 09:04 GMT
#347
Patience seems like the weakest player in Premier. So I fully expect him to make top 4 just to spite everyone.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 08 2017 10:14 GMT
#348

Premier starts on the 20th at 19:00 KST, Challenge starts on the 24th at 22:00 KST.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
March 08 2017 12:55 GMT
#349
Huh? Was hoping for qualifiers etc instead of only invites but whatever, still cool!

I suppose the invites will be flash, bisu, jaedong, sea, soulkey, stork, last and effort, given that jaedong wants to play...
maru G5L pls
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
March 08 2017 13:07 GMT
#350
On March 08 2017 21:55 neptunusfisk wrote:
Huh? Was hoping for qualifiers etc instead of only invites but whatever, still cool!

I suppose the invites will be flash, bisu, jaedong, sea, soulkey, stork, last and effort, given that jaedong wants to play...

Do you really believe Last, Soulkey or EffOrt are getting voted in over Terror, Britney or Larva?
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neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
March 08 2017 13:21 GMT
#351
On March 08 2017 22:07 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2017 21:55 neptunusfisk wrote:
Huh? Was hoping for qualifiers etc instead of only invites but whatever, still cool!

I suppose the invites will be flash, bisu, jaedong, sea, soulkey, stork, last and effort, given that jaedong wants to play...

Do you really believe Last, Soulkey or EffOrt are getting voted in over Terror, Britney or Larva?


Well, I had forgotten and blanked out that those people existed. But if I could choose, I would have Soulkey and Rain over those any day.
maru G5L pls
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
March 08 2017 13:48 GMT
#352
DAYUMMMM :D
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 15:57:45
March 08 2017 15:57 GMT
#353
This tournament will be so much fun. Wolfdes casting again, a 10 man round robin with
(T)Maru, (T)aLive, (T)INnoVation, (P)Zest, (P)sOs, (P)Stats, (P)Patience, (Z)Solar, (Z)Dark and (Z)ByuL.
Pretty awesome tbh
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 08 2017 16:27 GMT
#354
On March 09 2017 00:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:
This tournament will be so much fun. Wolfdes casting again, a 10 man round robin with
(T)Maru, (T)aLive, (T)INnoVation, (P)Zest, (P)sOs, (P)Stats, (P)Patience, (Z)Solar, (Z)Dark and (Z)ByuL.
Pretty awesome tbh

And that's just half the tournament
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 08 2017 17:12 GMT
#355
True. Challenge looks nice as well. I think the premier format is more interesting though
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 08 2017 17:47 GMT
#356
On March 09 2017 02:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:
True. Challenge looks nice as well. I think the premier format is more interesting though

Eh, the entire format depends on having every stage. They come together to make a whole and confuse everyone the first time they see it.

They really took a liking to round robin last year though. "People liked RR Challenge groups? MAKE EVERYTHING ROUND ROBIN NEXT SEASON!"
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 08 2017 18:12 GMT
#357
On March 09 2017 02:47 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2017 02:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:
True. Challenge looks nice as well. I think the premier format is more interesting though

Eh, the entire format depends on having every stage. They come together to make a whole and confuse everyone the first time they see it.

They really took a liking to round robin last year though. "People liked RR Challenge groups? MAKE EVERYTHING ROUND ROBIN NEXT SEASON!"

Sure everything feeds into each other. I will also watch both stages because there are great players in both, but premier > challenge regardless
The only thing i don't like (you already mentioned it) is that nobody can qualify for premier season two if he didn't make it into stage 2 this qualifier. That's a bit harsh imo
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 08 2017 18:47 GMT
#358
Great group for Premiere. Only real outliers look like Bogus and perhaps Maru and even they could drop a few. Everyone else looks competitive with each other.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 08 2017 18:55 GMT
#359
I think this will be very close tbh, i doubt any player will just cruise through the round robin stage. Best players will be like 6-3 imo
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16699 Posts
March 08 2017 18:59 GMT
#360
good test for the new patch
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 08 2017 19:07 GMT
#361
On March 09 2017 03:55 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I think this will be very close tbh, i doubt any player will just cruise through the round robin stage. Best players will be like 6-3 imo

Especially because it's over 9 weeks, not on one day like each Challenge group last year. So much can change in the span of 9 weeks.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Wardi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
England897 Posts
March 08 2017 20:44 GMT
#362
Is there a full schedule? I see the leagues start 20th & 24th, are they going to be every Monday & Friday then?
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12169 Posts
March 08 2017 21:05 GMT
#363
Probably slightly too few players involved but other than that this is probably the best format I've seen, if they managed to get this to 32 or 40 I'd be all for it.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 08 2017 22:16 GMT
#364
Embarrassing for Byun and TY
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
March 08 2017 22:20 GMT
#365
On March 09 2017 05:44 Wardi wrote:
Is there a full schedule? I see the leagues start 20th & 24th, are they going to be every Monday & Friday then?

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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 22:32:31
March 08 2017 22:27 GMT
#366
Probably slightly too few players involved but other than that this is probably the best format I've seen, if they managed to get this to 32 or 40 I'd be all for it.

Round robin format means a lot of matches. They're already taking 9 weeks for 10 players and 45 matches.
If they had 32 players, that would mean 496 matches. 40 players = 780 matches. At the current rate of 5 matches per week, 32 players would need 99 weeks and 40 players would need 156 weeks.

So yeah, 40 players would need 3 years to play all their matches.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 22:56:29
March 08 2017 22:53 GMT
#367
I guess he means overall 32 players. Right now 20 players are competing (premier + challenge)


Also i am interested in bw news regarding the tournament. When can we vote? Is JD gonna participate? :O
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Di4s
Profile Joined January 2017
8 Posts
March 09 2017 04:52 GMT
#368
where can i find the vods???
Z- Drg, Nestea, Dark, soO, Dimaga, Moon T- MVP, MMA, Polt, Bomber, Inno, TY P- Huk, white-ra
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 09 2017 16:30 GMT
#369
There are no vods yet. The main tournament will start on the 20th.



Anybody wanna translate that?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
ShAd_1337
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany1042 Posts
March 09 2017 17:46 GMT
#370
are there streams known yet? youtube only again or twitch maybe?
I like Dark
Di4s
Profile Joined January 2017
8 Posts
March 09 2017 21:35 GMT
#371
i mean the qualifiers vod
Z- Drg, Nestea, Dark, soO, Dimaga, Moon T- MVP, MMA, Polt, Bomber, Inno, TY P- Huk, white-ra
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 09 2017 21:41 GMT
#372
Yes there are no vods for qualifiers, this wasn't streamed
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