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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
February 27 2017 15:09 GMT
#61
On February 28 2017 00:00 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2017 23:45 munch wrote:
On February 27 2017 23:34 Elentos wrote:
On February 27 2017 23:33 royalroadweed wrote:
Ryung's too low.

There aren't that many Terrans

How Bunny ended up behind Impact or jjakji is beyond me though. Bunny is a top 16 GSL player who just barely didn't make it through the online qualifiers on EU. Impact didn't even make Code S and has no other notable results this year, and jjakji's form got worse almost immediately after Ggyeongi.


Rankings by everyone else


:/

Fire everyone else, have munch do everything.

Wasn't that last year? xD

Seriously though, I've had a couple of big courseworks over the past two months so I haven't been able to watch as much as I'd wanted, so I let everyone else do the rankings
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HardRevenge
Profile Joined February 2016
United States17 Posts
February 27 2017 15:24 GMT
#62
On February 27 2017 16:57 Alucen-Will- wrote:
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On February 27 2017 16:54 HardRevenge wrote:
I'm pretty sure there were other foreigners to win a tournament in Korea, right? Either way Neeb stomps the floor with most Koreans. And why do people keep underestimating TRUE? I feel these predictions are going to be laughed at like last years Dreamhack.


No other foreigners have won a tournament in Korea other than Neeb in sc2. And I wouldn't say he stomps the floor with most Koreans although he is solid


Maybe not the top 8, but Neeb is better than the vast majority of Koreans.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
February 27 2017 15:35 GMT
#63
On February 28 2017 00:24 HardRevenge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2017 16:57 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On February 27 2017 16:54 HardRevenge wrote:
I'm pretty sure there were other foreigners to win a tournament in Korea, right? Either way Neeb stomps the floor with most Koreans. And why do people keep underestimating TRUE? I feel these predictions are going to be laughed at like last years Dreamhack.


No other foreigners have won a tournament in Korea other than Neeb in sc2. And I wouldn't say he stomps the floor with most Koreans although he is solid


Maybe not the top 8, but Neeb is better than the vast majority of Koreans.

It's not the vast majority he's dealing with at this tournament though. It's the top.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-27 15:47:48
February 27 2017 15:43 GMT
#64
Neeb is very good, probably the best foreigner right now, but do people really think he's as good as Stats or herO right now?
Even those two have trouble standing up to the Korean Terrans.

In global events, it's usually the Korean Terrans that look invincible, and I'm pretty sure ByuN, TY, and INnoVation are not going to disappoint.


Showtime in particular got screwed over by the brackets. He has the skill to go far, but if anyone else strong gets put into his group then there's a good chance he won't be making it out. As good as he is, Dark stomps foreign hopes (Blizzcon anyone?) and INnoVation made him look like a scrub at NationWars and Inno hasn't exactly gotten weaker since then. Quite the opposite.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 27 2017 18:17 GMT
#65
Its such a shame Maru didn't qualify, out of all the koreans that wreck foreigners he is most fun to watch for sure. aLive better put in some work.

Also last time zest was in this cup no one thought he had a chance and he still won 😉
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-27 19:58:29
February 27 2017 19:58 GMT
#66
On February 27 2017 11:24 Shellshock wrote:
I can't wait to circlejerk about the power rank being wrong at the first upset. Thanks TL!


A good power rank can predict upsets.

I bet this one will turn out bad. I am smart.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 27 2017 20:05 GMT
#67
I appreciate that there are still Power Ranks for these tournament, but why is there none for korea ?
Cmon guys
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jpg06051992
Profile Joined July 2015
United States580 Posts
February 27 2017 20:17 GMT
#68
Still, it doesn’t excuse the fact that 2017 has been a little lacklustre.


Not sure I agree with this entirely, Dark has had a lack luster 2017 because Terran has been buffed significantly and Zerg has become slightly weaker in the meta, pretty sure these were major contributions. Zerg was a bit stronger in the meta in 2016 and Dark was on fire, right place at the right time scenario.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
February 27 2017 20:24 GMT
#69
How can Dark be behind ByuN?
Like ByuN got roflstomped by everyone recently :/ (when it mattered)
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
February 27 2017 20:27 GMT
#70
On February 28 2017 05:17 jpg06051992 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Still, it doesn’t excuse the fact that 2017 has been a little lacklustre.


Not sure I agree with this entirely, Dark has had a lack luster 2017 because Terran has been buffed significantly and Zerg has become slightly weaker in the meta, pretty sure these were major contributions. Zerg was a bit stronger in the meta in 2016 and Dark was on fire, right place at the right time scenario.


Dark patchzerg confirmed?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
February 27 2017 22:12 GMT
#71
Dark patchzerg confirmed?

Just like Inno is a patchterran. And Zest was a patchtoss in Season 1 2016. And how every progamer doing well that you don't personally like is a patch[insert-race-you-dislike].
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sickkkciiityyy
Profile Joined February 2017
34 Posts
February 28 2017 09:37 GMT
#72
Well, it shoud be terran patch but Inno Maru and TY got eliminated in 24h. Weakest race this patch (zerg) can take code s in season 1 At the end of day winner just wants it more then rest. Look PiliPili yesterday, dude was in a zone and BANG games were looking amazing.
Raineeb
Profile Joined September 2016
Philippines39 Posts
February 28 2017 14:43 GMT
#73
Rankings like these will always get some complaints. For me however my reference point is the recent WESG where the Koreans and the Foreigners met. Basing on that tourney Neeb and Showtime should be ranked higher. These 2 are the top foreigners right now (w/ Nerchio as the 3rd). They only bow to top tier Korean Terrans as shown in WESG. Neeb rekked Showtime in the 3rd place match so I say he should be ranked higher than Showtime
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AVirtualGigolo
Profile Joined December 2016
12 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 18:48:32
February 28 2017 18:47 GMT
#74
Why is innovation #1? I'm not doubting he's a great player, definitely top 5, but it just seems like people jump on the innovation band wagon the second he shows some sparks and are ready to name him the GOAT automatically. Byun at #3? I realize he's reigning blizzcon champ, which is huge, but he hasn't had his mojo lately at all. Weak power rank all around. There is no forumula for these things, just the opinions of the author.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 18:55:46
February 28 2017 18:55 GMT
#75
On March 01 2017 03:47 AVirtualGigolo wrote:
Why is innovation #1? .

Lack of arguments for practically everyone else attending this tournament when compared to INnoVation.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 20:06:58
February 28 2017 20:06 GMT
#76
Why is innovation #1?


Who is stronger than him right now? (Hint: Nobody)
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NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
February 28 2017 20:11 GMT
#77
what the writers couldn't possibly foresee was The Passport's potential destructive power that could possibly upset this entire tournament
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 20:14:21
February 28 2017 20:12 GMT
#78
On March 01 2017 03:47 AVirtualGigolo wrote:
There is no forumula for these things, just the opinions of the author.


what kind of formula do you suggest then? unless you just use aligulac it ain't happening
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
March 01 2017 10:52 GMT
#79
On March 01 2017 03:47 AVirtualGigolo wrote:
Why is innovation #1? I'm not doubting he's a great player, definitely top 5, but it just seems like people jump on the innovation band wagon the second he shows some sparks and are ready to name him the GOAT automatically. Byun at #3? I realize he's reigning blizzcon champ, which is huge, but he hasn't had his mojo lately at all. Weak power rank all around. There is no forumula for these things, just the opinions of the author.


in terms of formula, Inno is also #1 atm, his winrate recently is insanely high. Tell me anyone is performing better than him ?
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
March 01 2017 14:01 GMT
#80
Come on, argue some more. It's funny!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
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