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On October 30 2016 21:58 207aicila wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2016 21:05 opisska wrote:
All the doomsayers did so only for their own benefit - to sound smart or just to be assholes. Yes, every single one of us did so only for our own benefit. Not because we don't want to see a game and franchise and scene we love go down the fucking drain after following it for over a decade. No sir-ee, everyone did it just to sound smart. OR HOW ABOUT THIS Maybe instead of plugging your ears and circlejerking about how it's fine and on the up and up because Apollo said so even though very clearly numbers and retirements prove otherwise, maybe, just maybe, you should have fucking listened and helped pressure Blizzard to fucking do something right for once in 6 fucking years. Jesus fucking christ. It's Sunday afternoon and this somehow manages to be the dumbest post I've read all week. Like literally you deserve to be banned for saying something this objectively incorrect and almost maliciously stupid.
The scene only started declining when Blizz actually started implementing what the community asked for. So its really the community's fault.
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On November 01 2016 03:32 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2016 21:58 207aicila wrote:On October 30 2016 21:05 opisska wrote:
All the doomsayers did so only for their own benefit - to sound smart or just to be assholes. Yes, every single one of us did so only for our own benefit. Not because we don't want to see a game and franchise and scene we love go down the fucking drain after following it for over a decade. No sir-ee, everyone did it just to sound smart. OR HOW ABOUT THIS Maybe instead of plugging your ears and circlejerking about how it's fine and on the up and up because Apollo said so even though very clearly numbers and retirements prove otherwise, maybe, just maybe, you should have fucking listened and helped pressure Blizzard to fucking do something right for once in 6 fucking years. Jesus fucking christ. It's Sunday afternoon and this somehow manages to be the dumbest post I've read all week. Like literally you deserve to be banned for saying something this objectively incorrect and almost maliciously stupid. The scene only started declining when Blizz actually started implementing what the community asked for. So its really the community's fault.
When did the community at large ask for Koreans to be banned from every high profile international LAN? I sure as hell don't remember asking for that.
The first signs of decline happened when we went from 5 million WoL accounts (official numbers at the end of 2010) to less than 200K active players at the height of Brood Lord Infestor in 2012 before they nerfed it and HotS gave the game a shot in the arm. Need I remind you this was a period before Blizzard listened to any requests at all?
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On November 01 2016 03:39 207aicila wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2016 03:32 Thieving Magpie wrote:On October 30 2016 21:58 207aicila wrote:On October 30 2016 21:05 opisska wrote:
All the doomsayers did so only for their own benefit - to sound smart or just to be assholes. Yes, every single one of us did so only for our own benefit. Not because we don't want to see a game and franchise and scene we love go down the fucking drain after following it for over a decade. No sir-ee, everyone did it just to sound smart. OR HOW ABOUT THIS Maybe instead of plugging your ears and circlejerking about how it's fine and on the up and up because Apollo said so even though very clearly numbers and retirements prove otherwise, maybe, just maybe, you should have fucking listened and helped pressure Blizzard to fucking do something right for once in 6 fucking years. Jesus fucking christ. It's Sunday afternoon and this somehow manages to be the dumbest post I've read all week. Like literally you deserve to be banned for saying something this objectively incorrect and almost maliciously stupid. The scene only started declining when Blizz actually started implementing what the community asked for. So its really the community's fault. When did the community at large ask for Koreans to be banned from every high profile international LAN? I sure as hell don't remember asking for that. The first signs of decline happened when we went from 5 million WoL accounts (official numbers at the end of 2010) to less than 200K active players at the height of Brood Lord Infestor in 2012 before they nerfed it and HotS gave the game a shot in the arm. Need I remind you this was a period before Blizzard listened to any requests at all?
Oh right,
And the non-stop patching, rebalancing, Bunker build times, Barracks Build Times, Warp Gate research times etc... that was happening non-stop did not lead to that scene? The non-stop zerg complaint asking for anything and everything to be nerfed to oblivion was not happening at the time.
Selective memory is a bitch isn't it?
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On October 30 2016 22:06 opisska wrote:
So you seriously believe that you know better than the whole of Blizzard and that your rational view of the situation could save the situation if only people listened to you? You really don't realize how laughably childish that is?
Please wake up and realize that you do not matter at all, that you are not helping anything and the only effect your great reasonability has is degrading the fun atmosphere around the game.
I quote you so much.. I completely agree with this post! I don't have anything else to say but I wanted to support this statement 100%!
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On October 31 2016 23:34 207aicila wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2016 21:18 ejozl wrote:
You know the real life doomsayers that every year says that the world will end, will eventually be right one day. You can keep going on and on about how the game is dead, but please don't.. enjoy it while you can, I know I will. And when one day planet Earth dies, hopefully we will have found other planets to go to and hopefully there will be a new RTS. This is the dumbest analogy I've ever seen. Please put more thought into your posts.
Do you even realize how terrible your behaviour is? The condescending tone of this post would likely earn you a physical injury in real life. Maybe if you were an important figure with a track record, it could somewhat fly, but you are a complete nobody, yet you are asking people to "put more thought"? Did it never occur to you that maybe you should put more thought into how you deal with othet people? You are not superior to othet posters, stop acting like that.
Back to the topic: my first post was specifically targeted towards people who constantly felt the need to discusd how bad the game is, how the scene is devolving and how bad it will be and then specifically to one guy who expressed the "i told you" attitude.
I have in principle nothing agaisnt discussing possible improvements and debating weaknesses of the game. thats what the forum is for But the sheer amount of people who kept insisting thay sc2 is terrible and only their super scientific game design will save it grew simply out of reasonable proportions. As a sc2 hardcore fan, i had a hell of a party for the last six years - the only bad part was that so many people came to this party to take a shit in the middle of the living room. I cant see how i can be blamed for not enjoying the feaces on my table....
Finally the "I TOLD YOU" attitude is just stupid, by telling us you helped exactly nothing, because the party ended anyway and the ending was not made happier by being forecast in advance
I am gonna keep playing until the servers are down or empty and kerp watching as long as there is something to watch. During all of that, I will cotinue to enjoy all the great things we have despite the vocal wishes of the "community'.
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On November 01 2016 05:05 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2016 23:34 207aicila wrote:On October 31 2016 21:18 ejozl wrote:
You know the real life doomsayers that every year says that the world will end, will eventually be right one day. You can keep going on and on about how the game is dead, but please don't.. enjoy it while you can, I know I will. And when one day planet Earth dies, hopefully we will have found other planets to go to and hopefully there will be a new RTS. This is the dumbest analogy I've ever seen. Please put more thought into your posts. Do you even realize how terrible your behaviour is? The condescending tone of this post would likely earn you a physical injury in real life. Maybe if you were an important figure with a track record, it could somewhat fly, but you are a complete nobody, yet you are asking people to "put more thought"? Did it never occur to you that maybe you should put more thought into how you deal with othet people? You are not superior to othet posters, stop acting like that. Back to the topic: my first post was specifically targeted towards people who constantly felt the need to discusd how bad the game is, how the scene is devolving and how bad it will be and then specifically to one guy who expressed the "i told you" attitude. I have in principle nothing agaisnt discussing possible improvements and debating weaknesses of the game. thats what the forum is for But the sheer amount of people who kept insisting thay sc2 is terrible and only their super scientific game design will save it grew simply out of reasonable proportions. As a sc2 hardcore fan, i had a hell of a party for the last six years - the only bad part was that so many people came to this party to take a shit in the middle of the living room. I cant see how i can be blamed for not enjoying the feaces on my table.... Finally the "I TOLD YOU" attitude is just stupid, by telling us you helped exactly nothing, because the party ended anyway and the ending was not made happier by being forecast in advance I am gonna keep playing until the servers are down or empty and kerp watching as long as there is something to watch. During all of that, I will cotinue to enjoy all the great things we have despite the vocal wishes of the "community'.
Also, there was sc2 before kespa, there will be sc2 after kespa.
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On November 01 2016 03:39 207aicila wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2016 03:32 Thieving Magpie wrote:On October 30 2016 21:58 207aicila wrote:On October 30 2016 21:05 opisska wrote:
All the doomsayers did so only for their own benefit - to sound smart or just to be assholes. Yes, every single one of us did so only for our own benefit. Not because we don't want to see a game and franchise and scene we love go down the fucking drain after following it for over a decade. No sir-ee, everyone did it just to sound smart. OR HOW ABOUT THIS Maybe instead of plugging your ears and circlejerking about how it's fine and on the up and up because Apollo said so even though very clearly numbers and retirements prove otherwise, maybe, just maybe, you should have fucking listened and helped pressure Blizzard to fucking do something right for once in 6 fucking years. Jesus fucking christ. It's Sunday afternoon and this somehow manages to be the dumbest post I've read all week. Like literally you deserve to be banned for saying something this objectively incorrect and almost maliciously stupid. The scene only started declining when Blizz actually started implementing what the community asked for. So its really the community's fault. When did the community at large ask for Koreans to be banned from every high profile international LAN? I sure as hell don't remember asking for that. The first signs of decline happened when we went from 5 million WoL accounts (official numbers at the end of 2010) to less than 200K active players at the height of Brood Lord Infestor in 2012 before they nerfed it and HotS gave the game a shot in the arm. Need I remind you this was a period before Blizzard listened to any requests at all?
Do you have source for these numbers?
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I found in opisska someone who is voicing everything I think, with a much better wording than I could ever achieve 
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On November 01 2016 03:39 207aicila wrote:
The first signs of decline happened when we went from 5 million WoL accounts (official numbers at the end of 2010) to less than 200K active players at the height of Brood Lord Infestor in 2012 before they nerfed it and HotS gave the game a shot in the arm. Need I remind you this was a period before Blizzard listened to any requests at all?
Maybe if from 10 games at least 4 ended up without huge lag and drops - and I'm counting vs AI here nonetheless - would have been better. To quote someone "when I stop having fun, I stop playing".
I have reinstalled LotV one week ago (for the last time) and 10 games ended up in 8 completely army loss without being able to click something. The LAN removal was one of the dumbest decisions ever, but I digress.
Fact is, SPL is dead. Even if staying on the shoulder of BW era, it wasn't enough. Tons of money, international tournaments (including lagged MLG, truly awful, even worse than GomTV at its lowest), and still nothing.
That is usually happening for any software (not especially games) when decisions are took by nontechnical persons, marketeers, agilists etc. This, plus the Blizzard-vs-KeSPA piss contest. Plus trying to make something shiny but still capitalizing on BW.
It's been tried.
There is a reason tons of people still play Doom 1 and Quake 1 while Doom 3 is into oblivion, not to mention Quake 4 (a very good game).
It is playable. Immersive. Fun.
When a BW zealot attacked it made you tremble even when attacking ultras.
Now it looks like a waiter carrying a latte.
Imagine that. (One of) the most iconic unit in Starcraft ending up as a mineral dump.
If this is the end result of endless balancing, lag and mineral dump, then indeed was the last time.
Maybe I will reinstall it some day just to make aberrations. At least they look awesome.
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On November 01 2016 05:32 ndesktop wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2016 03:39 207aicila wrote:
The first signs of decline happened when we went from 5 million WoL accounts (official numbers at the end of 2010) to less than 200K active players at the height of Brood Lord Infestor in 2012 before they nerfed it and HotS gave the game a shot in the arm. Need I remind you this was a period before Blizzard listened to any requests at all? Maybe if from 10 games at least 4 ended up without huge lag and drops - and I'm counting vs AI here nonetheless - would have been better. To quote someone "when I stop having fun, I stop playing". I have reinstalled LotV one week ago (for the last time) and 10 games ended up in 8 completely army loss without being able to click something. The LAN removal was one of the dumbest decisions ever, but I digress.
Are you saying that the game is not fun because of your internet connection issues?
How many people would you play with if LAN existed and how decentralized, ladder-less playerbase could lead to a better game?
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On November 01 2016 03:32 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2016 21:58 207aicila wrote:On October 30 2016 21:05 opisska wrote:
All the doomsayers did so only for their own benefit - to sound smart or just to be assholes. Yes, every single one of us did so only for our own benefit. Not because we don't want to see a game and franchise and scene we love go down the fucking drain after following it for over a decade. No sir-ee, everyone did it just to sound smart. OR HOW ABOUT THIS Maybe instead of plugging your ears and circlejerking about how it's fine and on the up and up because Apollo said so even though very clearly numbers and retirements prove otherwise, maybe, just maybe, you should have fucking listened and helped pressure Blizzard to fucking do something right for once in 6 fucking years. Jesus fucking christ. It's Sunday afternoon and this somehow manages to be the dumbest post I've read all week. Like literally you deserve to be banned for saying something this objectively incorrect and almost maliciously stupid. The scene only started declining when Blizz actually started implementing what the community asked for. So its really the community's fault.
How can you put on "the community" the fault of the decisions of game design of the developer? it's up to the developer to properly interpret and sort feedback and to come forward with an overall vision for the game. Hasn't there been a demagogic method with simplistic "balanced numbers" goals and "race vs race" that only helped create an inconsistent game with people fighting each other over details? Hasn't there been a lot of ignoring detailed feedback pointing out major issues in the game for a long time?
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On November 01 2016 05:35 aQuaSC wrote:Are you saying that the game is not fun because of your internet connection issues?
Sure, is a lot of fun playing normally, making a 200/200 army, and lose it in 5 seconds while looking at some Pending, glass cursor, modal dialog or so.
And I am saying that no other software have these issues; SC2 have them.
I'm located in Romania in one of the top 10 places with internet speed, so it's not *my* internet issue. Guess who's.
On November 01 2016 05:35 aQuaSC wrote:How many people would you play with if LAN existed and how decentralized, ladder-less playerbase could lead to a better game?
This is not the point. I payed for all three games and I expect them to work in any way I see suitable. When they don't work, uninstall. It's that simple.
I played - and my friends - quite a number of games online. And despite the considerable number of trolls and assholes, nothing infuriated me more than not being able to do nothing. Sorry, if they fail to handle sockets asynchronous or do proper UDP, it's not my fault.
Let me repeat: I payed for a game which not only is unplayable - now, not in the WoL era ! - and still is plagued by the same problems. Not the number of people I would play against is the issue. The quality of this Quake with minerals which LotV has become is. At least from my point of view.
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On November 01 2016 05:36 ProMeTheus112 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2016 03:32 Thieving Magpie wrote:On October 30 2016 21:58 207aicila wrote:On October 30 2016 21:05 opisska wrote:
All the doomsayers did so only for their own benefit - to sound smart or just to be assholes. Yes, every single one of us did so only for our own benefit. Not because we don't want to see a game and franchise and scene we love go down the fucking drain after following it for over a decade. No sir-ee, everyone did it just to sound smart. OR HOW ABOUT THIS Maybe instead of plugging your ears and circlejerking about how it's fine and on the up and up because Apollo said so even though very clearly numbers and retirements prove otherwise, maybe, just maybe, you should have fucking listened and helped pressure Blizzard to fucking do something right for once in 6 fucking years. Jesus fucking christ. It's Sunday afternoon and this somehow manages to be the dumbest post I've read all week. Like literally you deserve to be banned for saying something this objectively incorrect and almost maliciously stupid. The scene only started declining when Blizz actually started implementing what the community asked for. So its really the community's fault. How can you put on "the community" the fault of the decisions of game design of the developer? it's up to the developer to properly interpret and sort feedback and to come forward with an overall vision for the game. Hasn't there been a demagogic method with simplistic "balanced numbers" goals and "race vs race" that only helped create an inconsistent game with people fighting each other over details? Hasn't there been a lot of ignoring detailed feedback pointing out major issues in the game for a long time?
Well first they did nothing. And the community got mad because they were out of touch. So they did something, then the community got mad because they were meddling. So they went hands off, then the community got mad because balance. So they jumped back in. Then the community got mad that they were coddling casuals.
The conclusion from watching years of data suggests that the community has absolutely zero knowledge of what a good game is and should not be listened to at all for any advice when it comes to making a good game. Blizzard would have been better off patching for 2-3 months after release and just letting the community fix itself instead of the community only wanting fixes from ladder patches.
The game is dead in Korea because the community complained that too many koreans competed in the US and EU. Kespa is dead because of community influence. The korean scene is hurting because of community influence. The community is what is hurting everything about this game.
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On November 01 2016 05:44 ndesktop wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2016 05:35 aQuaSC wrote:Are you saying that the game is not fun because of your internet connection issues? Sure, is a lot of fun playing normally, making a 200/200 army, and lose it in 5 seconds while looking at some Pending, glass cursor, modal dialog or so. And I am saying that no other software have these issues; SC2 have them. I'm located in Romania in one of the top 10 places with internet speed, so it's not *my* internet issue. Guess who's. Show nested quote +On November 01 2016 05:35 aQuaSC wrote:How many people would you play with if LAN existed and how decentralized, ladder-less playerbase could lead to a better game? This is not the point. I payed for all three games and I expect them to work in any way I see suitable. When they don't work, uninstall. It's that simple. I played - and my friends - quite a number of games online. And despite the considerable number of trolls and assholes, nothing infuriated me more than not being able to do nothing. Sorry, if they fail to handle sockets asynchronous or do proper UDP, it's not my fault. Let me repeat: I payed for a game which not only is unplayable - now, not in the WoL era ! - and still is plagued by the same problems. Not the number of people I would play against is the issue. The quality of this Quake with minerals which LotV has become is. At least from my point of view.
Perhaps you should contact them and not sit in silence complaining here on how they screwed up the game, it's literally first time I'm seeing someone complaining about battle.net servers. Or maybe you should accept the possibility that your ISP has something wrong on it's side.
Maxing out and then clashing both armies in a single battle for a win or loss is players' choice, if you had fun with BW and it's 12-unit selection you shouldn't have any problems with multi-pronged attacks all over the map I think.
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On November 01 2016 05:50 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2016 05:36 ProMeTheus112 wrote:On November 01 2016 03:32 Thieving Magpie wrote:On October 30 2016 21:58 207aicila wrote:On October 30 2016 21:05 opisska wrote:
All the doomsayers did so only for their own benefit - to sound smart or just to be assholes. Yes, every single one of us did so only for our own benefit. Not because we don't want to see a game and franchise and scene we love go down the fucking drain after following it for over a decade. No sir-ee, everyone did it just to sound smart. OR HOW ABOUT THIS Maybe instead of plugging your ears and circlejerking about how it's fine and on the up and up because Apollo said so even though very clearly numbers and retirements prove otherwise, maybe, just maybe, you should have fucking listened and helped pressure Blizzard to fucking do something right for once in 6 fucking years. Jesus fucking christ. It's Sunday afternoon and this somehow manages to be the dumbest post I've read all week. Like literally you deserve to be banned for saying something this objectively incorrect and almost maliciously stupid. The scene only started declining when Blizz actually started implementing what the community asked for. So its really the community's fault. How can you put on "the community" the fault of the decisions of game design of the developer? it's up to the developer to properly interpret and sort feedback and to come forward with an overall vision for the game. Hasn't there been a demagogic method with simplistic "balanced numbers" goals and "race vs race" that only helped create an inconsistent game with people fighting each other over details? Hasn't there been a lot of ignoring detailed feedback pointing out major issues in the game for a long time? Well first they did nothing. And the community got mad because they were out of touch. So they did something, then the community got mad because they were meddling. So they went hands off, then the community got mad because balance. So they jumped back in. Then the community got mad that they were coddling casuals. The conclusion from watching years of data suggests that the community has absolutely zero knowledge of what a good game is and should not be listened to at all for any advice when it comes to making a good game. Blizzard would have been better off patching for 2-3 months after release and just letting the community fix itself instead of the community only wanting fixes from ladder patches. The game is dead in Korea because the community complained that too many koreans competed in the US and EU. Kespa is dead because of community influence. The korean scene is hurting because of community influence. The community is what is hurting everything about this game.
"The community" is not one voice, everybody doesn't make bad suggestions, and it's up to the developer to properly sort it out and not make bad decisions and build things coherently.. I think they went for a demagogic approach.
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On November 01 2016 05:54 aQuaSC wrote:
Perhaps you should contact them and not sit in silence complaining here on how they screwed up the game, it's literally first time I'm seeing someone complaining about battle.net servers. Or maybe you should accept the possibility that your ISP has something wrong on it's side.
I did. Several times, since 2010 until two days ago. The same. I posted those details not to whine, but to show they may care (I hope) about the user but they don't fix a critical flaw. And it's not only my ISP. Me and my friends played using 3 different ISPs with the same results.
We use to argue all day about SC. Heck, we insulted each other using the respective races. And it was fun. Now not a single one plays anymore. Or at least watch streams. Because they had enough on spending money on lag.
On November 01 2016 05:54 aQuaSC wrote:
Maxing out and then clashing both armies in a single battle for a win or loss is players' choice, if you had fun with BW and it's 12-unit selection you shouldn't have any problems with multi-pronged attacks all over the map I think.
Ah, no. It wasn't one single army loss as a (bad) strategy decision. It was army loss because the game freezes.
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On November 01 2016 06:24 ProMeTheus112 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2016 05:50 Thieving Magpie wrote:On November 01 2016 05:36 ProMeTheus112 wrote:On November 01 2016 03:32 Thieving Magpie wrote:On October 30 2016 21:58 207aicila wrote:On October 30 2016 21:05 opisska wrote:
All the doomsayers did so only for their own benefit - to sound smart or just to be assholes. Yes, every single one of us did so only for our own benefit. Not because we don't want to see a game and franchise and scene we love go down the fucking drain after following it for over a decade. No sir-ee, everyone did it just to sound smart. OR HOW ABOUT THIS Maybe instead of plugging your ears and circlejerking about how it's fine and on the up and up because Apollo said so even though very clearly numbers and retirements prove otherwise, maybe, just maybe, you should have fucking listened and helped pressure Blizzard to fucking do something right for once in 6 fucking years. Jesus fucking christ. It's Sunday afternoon and this somehow manages to be the dumbest post I've read all week. Like literally you deserve to be banned for saying something this objectively incorrect and almost maliciously stupid. The scene only started declining when Blizz actually started implementing what the community asked for. So its really the community's fault. How can you put on "the community" the fault of the decisions of game design of the developer? it's up to the developer to properly interpret and sort feedback and to come forward with an overall vision for the game. Hasn't there been a demagogic method with simplistic "balanced numbers" goals and "race vs race" that only helped create an inconsistent game with people fighting each other over details? Hasn't there been a lot of ignoring detailed feedback pointing out major issues in the game for a long time? Well first they did nothing. And the community got mad because they were out of touch. So they did something, then the community got mad because they were meddling. So they went hands off, then the community got mad because balance. So they jumped back in. Then the community got mad that they were coddling casuals. The conclusion from watching years of data suggests that the community has absolutely zero knowledge of what a good game is and should not be listened to at all for any advice when it comes to making a good game. Blizzard would have been better off patching for 2-3 months after release and just letting the community fix itself instead of the community only wanting fixes from ladder patches. The game is dead in Korea because the community complained that too many koreans competed in the US and EU. Kespa is dead because of community influence. The korean scene is hurting because of community influence. The community is what is hurting everything about this game. "The community" is not one voice, everybody doesn't make bad suggestions, and it's up to the developer to properly sort it out and not make bad decisions and build things coherently.. I think they went for a demagogic approach.
Painters don't edit their work after the audience looks at it. Neither should developers. The reason Blizzard listened to the community was PR, nothing more. It was a bad idea and they should have just told the community that the map editor exists for a reason.
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On November 01 2016 05:05 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2016 23:34 207aicila wrote:On October 31 2016 21:18 ejozl wrote:
You know the real life doomsayers that every year says that the world will end, will eventually be right one day. You can keep going on and on about how the game is dead, but please don't.. enjoy it while you can, I know I will. And when one day planet Earth dies, hopefully we will have found other planets to go to and hopefully there will be a new RTS. This is the dumbest analogy I've ever seen. Please put more thought into your posts. Do you even realize how terrible your behaviour is? The condescending tone of this post would likely earn you a physical injury in real life. Maybe if you were an important figure with a track record, it could somewhat fly, but you are a complete nobody, yet you are asking people to "put more thought"? Did it never occur to you that maybe you should put more thought into how you deal with othet people? You are not superior to othet posters, stop acting like that.
No I don't realize, it's not like I've lived on this beautiful Earth for longer than at least 90% of the people on this website, growing up in the Eastern Bloc in fairly austere conditions.
But if all you have to say is ad hominems and empty rhetoric then I'll leave you to your delusional Stockholm Syndrome ways and go have fun with a game where the developers don't piss in the faces of their most loyal fans for years.
Like I'll be honest I understand some of you were not even alive or at best filling up diapers when we were enjoying the fuck out of Brood War, but try to understand at least.
User was warned for this post
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Sheesh so much negativity wow
I'm happy for all the wonderful memories and good times this game has created. 6 years is a really good lifespan for a game. LoL and DOTA are just easier to get into and less stressful. I don't really think it would have made much of a difference if blizzard had done things differently. The WCS changes were dumb and it did accelerate the death of the korean scene and reduced frequency of tourneys. But even if blizzard hadn't done that, LoL and DOTA would have continued to dominate regardless.
I will watch blizzcon and enjoy tremendously.
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On November 01 2016 08:20 207aicila wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2016 05:05 opisska wrote:On October 31 2016 23:34 207aicila wrote:On October 31 2016 21:18 ejozl wrote:
You know the real life doomsayers that every year says that the world will end, will eventually be right one day. You can keep going on and on about how the game is dead, but please don't.. enjoy it while you can, I know I will. And when one day planet Earth dies, hopefully we will have found other planets to go to and hopefully there will be a new RTS. This is the dumbest analogy I've ever seen. Please put more thought into your posts. Do you even realize how terrible your behaviour is? The condescending tone of this post would likely earn you a physical injury in real life. Maybe if you were an important figure with a track record, it could somewhat fly, but you are a complete nobody, yet you are asking people to "put more thought"? Did it never occur to you that maybe you should put more thought into how you deal with othet people? You are not superior to othet posters, stop acting like that. No I don't realize, it's not like I've lived on this beautiful Earth for longer than at least 90% of the people on this website, growing up in the Eastern Bloc in fairly austere conditions. But if all you have to say is ad hominems and empty rhetoric then I'll leave you to your delusional Stockholm Syndrome ways and go have fun with a game where the developers don't piss in the faces of their most loyal fans for years. Like I'll be honest I understand some of you were not even alive or at best filling up diapers when we were enjoying the fuck out of Brood War, but try to understand at least. User was warned for this post
"I'm older than you and faced more hardships, so your opinion is not that relevant" argument is one of the worst I've ever seen
Being older does not earn you any right to be condescending to others, put more thought into your posts
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