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Regardless of the situation, we will still action upon "dead game" comments. As this is a sensitive issue for SC2 fans, please do not come into this thread and talk about SC2 players switching over to BW. This thread is also not about bashing Blizzard, David Kim, or the WCS system.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 18 2016 02:42 GMT
#81
On October 18 2016 11:37 Fran_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2016 11:36 mGGrinehart wrote:
KT players were just moving houses!

Anyway, foreigner sc2 is actually pretty stable now, with there even being some new and upcoming players. I really do expect sc2 to pivot even further towards the foreign scene and especially China. Big market there.

Yeah it is sad, but it won't mean the end of the world.


China was the biggest viewing market for Proleague, if that could not sustain them, I'm not very optimistic on the future unless Blizzard intervenes directly.


Chinese Proleague viewership wasn't relevant. The sponsors to Proleague were only interested in domestic viewership (since their products are Korea specific except for Samsung).
Mahavishnu
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada396 Posts
October 18 2016 02:43 GMT
#82
Starcraft we knew ye so well, and so will forever.
everything is gravity
FvRGg
Profile Joined June 2016
68 Posts
October 18 2016 02:43 GMT
#83
On October 18 2016 11:33 Ve5pa wrote:
I don't even play SC2 I play LoL, but I watch Sc2 religiously as an eSport it had so much going for it. RTS seems to be dying so sad as it was the truest of all genres. How much of this is to do with Blizzard??


Well, it has everything to do with blizzard, the question is was it preventable and can you blame them, no one really knows. There is some reasonable justification that you can
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3306 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-18 02:43:54
October 18 2016 02:43 GMT
#84
Sigh, this was a long time coming, but it still hurts. =\

SC2 won't survive in Korea through passion like BW has.
T P Z sagi
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-18 02:44:19
October 18 2016 02:43 GMT
#85
Sad day.

On October 18 2016 11:37 Fran_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2016 11:36 mGGrinehart wrote:
KT players were just moving houses!

Anyway, foreigner sc2 is actually pretty stable now, with there even being some new and upcoming players. I really do expect sc2 to pivot even further towards the foreign scene and especially China. Big market there.

Yeah it is sad, but it won't mean the end of the world.


China was the biggest viewing market for Proleague, if that could not sustain them, I'm not very optimistic on the future unless Blizzard intervenes directly.


Chinese viewer numbers have never mattered for leagues outside of china. I assume that is true for overwatch/heroes of the storm/hearthstone/whatever as well.

There's always been like huge viewership in china for BW, WC3, dota/dota 2, i assume LOL, absolutely insane numbers would just casually drop in to a tournament (like chinese resteams would have 150,000+) but that translate to absolutely nothing.

I dont know SC2 viewership in China but I assume it was healthy for some period of time
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 18 2016 02:45 GMT
#86
After the awful 2016 season, it was only a matter of time

The sad times continue.
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
October 18 2016 02:45 GMT
#87
I'm kinda here cuz I started keeping stats for proleague and then the dude at TL who did it went mia and I lent a hand and that's how TL roped me in. And my heart stayed fooooooreveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer.

I will always have fond memories of you, Mr League.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-18 02:46:18
October 18 2016 02:46 GMT
#88
RIP SC2. This is truly sad.
Ve5pa
Profile Joined December 2014
United Kingdom252 Posts
October 18 2016 02:46 GMT
#89
maybe all the 'dead game' memes were true.......... so fucking sad right now
SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
October 18 2016 02:46 GMT
#90
Very sad but not unexpected, it seems Korean fans just do not care about Starcraft2

Before everyone jumps on the Blizzard/WCS hate train remember proleague is almost 100% funded by Korean companies, with Korean fans moving away from sc2 to overwatch and LoL etc there is just no reason for Korean companies, which only care about the Korean viewers, to continue funding an expensive sc2 tournament. The WCS changes have pretty much nothing to do with the health of Teams like SKT or KT, they literally could care less about a Dreamhack tournament in Europe.

Also iirc Blizzard has actually provided more total prize pool inside Korea(where Korean sponsers actually care) in 2016 compared to 2015.

Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
October 18 2016 02:46 GMT
#91
Liquipedia"Expert"
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 18 2016 02:47 GMT
#92
I wouldn't be where I am today without Korean SC2.

It was a good run. I'll see you in my heart.
Moderator
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
October 18 2016 02:47 GMT
#93
Honestly, end of Proleague doesn't bother me much. I think I've always been much more into the stories of individual players than teams. Still, though, all of my favorite teams other than Liquid have always been Korean. With this, we see behemoths not only of SC1/SC2 but eSports in general deciding the time has come, and that really does make me sad.

I hope everything works out for the players still committed and successful enough to keep playing. And while I do see the negatives in this situation, I think the end of Kespa is healthy for the scene overall. Proleague and Kespa going away doesn't mean shit to the foreign scene, and could in fact end up being a good thing. Don't cry, kids.

RIP to my favorite SC2 team ever. SKT dies the best KT.
Zealots, not zee-lots. | Never forget, KTViolet, Go)Space. | You will never be as good as By.Flash, and your drops will never be as sick as MMA.
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
October 18 2016 02:48 GMT
#94
A more serious question: what will happen to the english casters of PL? (Wolf and company).
BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
October 18 2016 02:48 GMT
#95
damn dude this game deserved so much better for everyone involved
ilililililililiii
Profile Joined October 2013
United States93 Posts
October 18 2016 02:50 GMT
#96
can someone tell me when the bad news for sc2 comes to an end?
ilililililililiii
Profile Joined October 2013
United States93 Posts
October 18 2016 02:50 GMT
#97
please?
TanksALot
Profile Joined December 2002
United States153 Posts
October 18 2016 02:50 GMT
#98
FUCK
Big up
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
October 18 2016 02:51 GMT
#99
On October 18 2016 11:50 ilililililililiii wrote:
can someone tell me when the bad news for sc2 comes to an end?


Today. That's pretty much the end of the game.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
October 18 2016 02:51 GMT
#100
I blame oov.
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