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Message from the staff on spoilers
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 03 2016 18:13 GMT
#21
I hate it. Completely spoiled Kespa Cup for me too. Good thing I was blinded with happiness at seeing Neeb win.

Their reasoning is silly too. This is really more of a forum to me.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-03 18:13:57
October 03 2016 18:13 GMT
#22
On October 04 2016 03:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:
The best would be to still do those recaps, but with vague titles like "KeSPA Cup winner crowned" or "KeSPA Cup 2016 comes to an end".


This was brought up. The people who have more clout seemed to think that this was too much of an inconvenience for those who sought the results.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24226 Posts
October 03 2016 18:15 GMT
#23
On October 04 2016 03:13 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 03:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:
The best would be to still do those recaps, but with vague titles like "KeSPA Cup winner crowned" or "KeSPA Cup 2016 comes to an end".


This was brought up. The people who have more clout seemed to think that this was too much of an inconvenience for those who sought the results.

I think that's silly, but hey, I'm not the guy in charge. Just giving my opinion.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 03 2016 18:17 GMT
#24
On October 04 2016 03:09 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 03:05 blade55555 wrote:
On October 04 2016 02:49 Kaizor wrote:
One of the TL staff or web admin posted that they had a discussion among themselves before finally deciding that since TL.net is meant for be a news site for SC2 news, it just did not make sense to hide the news behind spoilers so that is why they stop doing it.

And i agree with them.


I've always agreed with those type of things. If I didn't want spoilers, I would not go to the website that may have spoilers (intentional or not).

It's like other sports, you don't go to their website and then get mad about spoilers when it's pasted on the front page.


That's because other sports have most people watching in the same time zone, not all the way around the world.

This is a website for English-speakers to watch matches that are aired for the Korean time zone. Real sports analogies don't apply.

In BW, this was obvious, and there weren't spoilers. At some point, because there were so many NA and EU timezone matches, people started wanting instant results threads with spoilers since they watched the matches live. And that's fine! But applying the same logic to Korean matches makes no sense.

Agree, doesn't make sense to spoil the results when the timezone plays a huge difference. A grace period seems appropriate considering TL is a community, not just a news site. In our current BW coverage, we still don't use spoilers and I would hate to think that I spoiled the tournament for a reader.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
October 03 2016 18:17 GMT
#25
On October 04 2016 03:13 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 03:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:
The best would be to still do those recaps, but with vague titles like "KeSPA Cup winner crowned" or "KeSPA Cup 2016 comes to an end".


This was brought up. The people who have more clout seemed to think that this was too much of an inconvenience for those who sought the results.

If I just want the results of something I don't go this far, I stop on Liquipedia.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
I wasbanned fromthis
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
113 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-03 18:19:38
October 03 2016 18:18 GMT
#26
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
October 03 2016 18:19 GMT
#27
On October 04 2016 03:18 I wasbanned fromthis wrote:
Freedom is speech is great.
What an interesting topical discussion...

(exorbitant sarcasm)... TL needs a website that has nothing but results... ... ... (liquipedia maybe?)

Trouble with kids is they need to grow up.

wah im seeing spoilers, it flucuates my mood, ahmmerrrgerrd.. no minds.

The fuck did I just read?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
jake1138
Profile Joined September 2011
United States82 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-03 18:22:17
October 03 2016 18:20 GMT
#28
I'm very upset that TL gives spoilers in headlines. I want to come here to read about what is going on with the game, with future patches, with team rosters, not to have tournament results ruined for me! I can understand why they may no longer have a spoiler checkbox but can they at least adhere to a "no spoiler" policy with front page headline and images? It's not that hard for someone interested in a headline to click the link to find out who won!
seopthi
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
391 Posts
October 03 2016 18:22 GMT
#29
As OP, I am not even upset about the change itself; I find the main problem in not announcing it on the front page and damaging KeSPA Cup experience to many -- as could have been easily expected
FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4952 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-03 18:43:15
October 03 2016 18:42 GMT
#30
It was announced on the front page ages ago, seems no one reads announcements (to be fair, it was a long time ago)
In fact there hasn't been a no spoiler policy since 2012

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tl-community/314832-tl-frontpage-redesign-and-event-coverage-changes
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-03 18:49:56
October 03 2016 18:48 GMT
#31
On October 04 2016 03:42 FO-nTTaX wrote:
It was announced on the front page ages ago, seems no one reads announcements (to be fair, it was a long time ago)
In fact there hasn't been a no spoiler policy since 2012

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tl-community/314832-tl-frontpage-redesign-and-event-coverage-changes

Although there was the "hide spoilers" option back then to be fair. Back then Plexa said:

On February 24 2012 14:44 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 14:43 MountainGoat wrote:
Yes! The spoiler whiners lose! The war is over!

I wouldn't view it as that, rather now both sides win since those who want to avoid spoilers can, and those who don't get what they want.


This is no longer the case.

Of course the change was not recent, but KeSPA Cup has brought to light how problematic it is for Korean events in which international fans are heavily interested in.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
jake1138
Profile Joined September 2011
United States82 Posts
October 03 2016 18:49 GMT
#32
So one of the prevailing thoughts in this thread is "If you don't want spoilers, don't go to the website". Is that really what TL wants? For us to not come to the website? I wouldn't think so. What are the serious arguments for not having spoiler-free headlines on the website? It's not like the headline frequency is that high that someone can't flag or modify spoiler content before it's published. What is it, once or twice a day at most?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
October 03 2016 18:53 GMT
#33
On October 04 2016 03:48 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 03:42 FO-nTTaX wrote:
It was announced on the front page ages ago, seems no one reads announcements (to be fair, it was a long time ago)
In fact there hasn't been a no spoiler policy since 2012

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tl-community/314832-tl-frontpage-redesign-and-event-coverage-changes

Although there was the "hide spoilers" option back then to be fair. Of course the change was not recent, but KeSPA Cup has brought to light how problematic it is for Korean events in which international fans are heavily interested in.

Well, KeSPA Cup was an entirely new situation when it comes to news. First, the only coverage for Korean events is usually previews with silly puns in the title, with no specific recaps. Second this was the first tournament this year, and the only I recall at all, which got an individual recap for every day. This is usually not a thing TL does even for multi-day tournaments.

It was so... different.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
jake1138
Profile Joined September 2011
United States82 Posts
October 03 2016 18:58 GMT
#34
Ok, so TL's argument is, "Everyone watches these events live now". Well, I'm not one of them. I view the VODs on a spoiler-free website the following evening. I can't stay up and catch them live when I have to work five hours later! And like Musicus said, they had the "Hide Spoilers" option back then, so that worked as a compromise. But now that is gone. So now you alienate those of us who cannot watch events live that happen in the middle of the night. I guess if we're in the minority and the rest of your viewership doesn't care, then we have no choice but to not go to TL. That sucks.
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-03 19:03:28
October 03 2016 18:59 GMT
#35
I dislike it as well since i come here multiple times everyday, even before watching every single match. I was surprised to see a headline like "Neeb wins KeSPA Cup Group A with 4-0 score; Zest knocks out ByuN" a week ago.

I can totally understand why they are doing it but TL was my go to website for finding vods of events, i will use reddit or youtube/twitch if i really don't want to get spoiled from now. Although, reddit isn't any better. I could understand Neeb was the kespa cup champion since /r/starcraft was filled with posts like "Didn't think I would ever see something like this in Korea" or "Remember when people were laughing at Aligulac because it ranked Neeb in the top 10?"

P.S: I normally don't miss on events this big so it is not a big problem for me. But i didn't have access to internet at all times for the last week, so i had to watch kespa cup from my cellphone later
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33451 Posts
October 03 2016 19:02 GMT
#36
On October 04 2016 03:05 travis wrote:
It's something that is discussed internally a bunch and there are lots of different opinions. A solution/compromise is trying to be reached.

haha
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
jake1138
Profile Joined September 2011
United States82 Posts
October 03 2016 19:04 GMT
#37
So there is no solution? No compromise? This is not something that will change?
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17683 Posts
October 03 2016 19:08 GMT
#38
On October 04 2016 03:01 207aicila wrote:
Maybe once the pageviews go down enough they might reconsider.

yep, use reddit/twitch/youtube to find VODs instead
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jake1138
Profile Joined September 2011
United States82 Posts
October 03 2016 19:12 GMT
#39
On October 04 2016 03:59 Isualin wrote:I can totally understand why they are doing it but TL was my go to website for finding vods of events, i will use reddit or youtube/twitch if i really don't want to get spoiled from now. Although, reddit isn't any better.

I use sc2links, they do a really good job of posting spoiler-free VODs quickly for GSL, SSL, Proleague, and other major tournaments.
Ignorant prodigy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States385 Posts
October 03 2016 19:13 GMT
#40
I'm just visiting way less now.
If I was paying to put up ads I'd probably not like the removal of this feature.. since people like myself will simply avoid the site until they can catch up on the vods
http://www.twitch.tv/ignorantprodigy playing masters random with no hotkeys......big pimpin'
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