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Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
August 01 2016 08:37 GMT
#21
I find it odd how skewed people's expectations are when a player who reaches the GSL ro16 ten times in a row, even going to the Finals once, on top of all his other achievents is called *only* mid Tier. The SC2 fandom's maintained attitude of "there really are only a handful of actually good players" is just bonkers. And I don't even like Parting.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-01 08:49:46
August 01 2016 08:46 GMT
#22
On August 01 2016 14:26 Phredxor wrote:
Interested to see how Parting looks. He looked terrible at the end of 2015 and I haven't seen much of him since.

A couple of weeks ago he was playing team games with the SPL casters in one of their shows. It was sad to watch PartinG be the worst player on a team with 2 casters.

Btw PartinG's elimination in the GSL qualifiers came at the hands of Sorry, so that tells you some things about his PvT.

On August 01 2016 15:09 zealotstim wrote:
Paying has never been the same since skt destroyed his soul. Still, I'm always hopeful for him.

I'm pretty sure he had one of his best years after leaving SKT.
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DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-01 18:25:19
August 01 2016 18:23 GMT
#23
Come on PartinG and Has, make me proud boys!

[Edit] ..And as soon as I check Lickpiddy I see Has is already out :`(
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dyDrawer
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada438 Posts
August 01 2016 22:14 GMT
#24
I may be biased as a PartinG fanboy, but you'd be hard pressed to find a tournament that he's been in, big or small, where he was not considered a championship contender.

The same cannot be said of some other mid tier Korean players like Super or Trap (they are really good players, but you never seriously consider them as championship caliber in big leagues like the GSL). IMO PartinG was considered to be just a tiny step back (if at all) from the Protoss giants like Zest and Rain.
Dear, Rain, PartinG, Trap - "Glory to the Firstborn"
warlocke
Profile Joined September 2015
97 Posts
August 02 2016 02:26 GMT
#25
I wonder how is parting's form now hmm
an average player whom can only F2 + a-move
thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
August 02 2016 02:44 GMT
#26
On August 02 2016 11:26 warlocke wrote:
I wonder how is parting's form now hmm


http://www.bilibili.com/video/av5377913/
PartinG vs Jieshi (Mystery)
Though PartinG won the game, his power is much less than before truly.
I love SC2
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4178 Posts
August 02 2016 08:50 GMT
#27
Really interested in the prize structure. Something I've always wanted tournaments to try, in a DE tournament, have whoever comes from the WB's get a nice bonus and have a non-winners advantage grand finals. That way you're still rewarded and the grand finals are still anyone's game/hype.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
August 02 2016 08:51 GMT
#28
On August 02 2016 17:50 lestye wrote:
Really interested in the prize structure. Something I've always wanted tournaments to try, in a DE tournament, have whoever comes from the WB's get a nice bonus and have a non-winners advantage grand finals. That way you're still rewarded and the grand finals are still anyone's game/hype.


Kung Fu Cup already does this with a DE playoffs bracket and one single BO7 grand finals.
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4178 Posts
August 02 2016 09:09 GMT
#29
On August 02 2016 17:51 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 17:50 lestye wrote:
Really interested in the prize structure. Something I've always wanted tournaments to try, in a DE tournament, have whoever comes from the WB's get a nice bonus and have a non-winners advantage grand finals. That way you're still rewarded and the grand finals are still anyone's game/hype.


Kung Fu Cup already does this with a DE playoffs bracket and one single BO7 grand finals.

....oh..... Kung Fu Cup is so far ahead of its time, I can't believe it.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-02 09:35:51
August 02 2016 09:20 GMT
#30
I still think the prize distribution format needs work. It makes no sense to me that the 2nd place player in the group stage can earn as much money as or even more than the 1st place player. And for Kung Fu Cup it's not just that.

In the last Kung Fu Cup, before the grand finals Stats had won 2888 $, he only lost 2 and no matches maps in the whole tournament up to that point. TY made 2584 $ before the grand finals. He lost 2 matches and 6 maps total. So basically if Stats lost 2 more maps he and TY would have made even money up until the finals, even though Stats went to the finals through the winner bracket and TY through the loser bracket. Meaning the only advantage the winner bracket amounted to for Stats was that he had to play a few less matches.

So yeah, I hope the distribution is looked at again in the future.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
August 02 2016 09:43 GMT
#31
On August 02 2016 18:20 Elentos wrote:
I still think the prize distribution format needs work. It makes no sense to me that the 2nd place player in the group stage can earn as much money as or even more than the 1st place player. And for Kung Fu Cup it's not just that.

In the last Kung Fu Cup, before the grand finals Stats had won 2888 $, he only lost 2 and no matches maps in the whole tournament up to that point. TY made 2584 $ before the grand finals. He lost 2 matches and 6 maps total. So basically if Stats lost 2 more maps he and TY would have made even money up until the finals, even though Stats went to the finals through the winner bracket and TY through the loser bracket. Meaning the only advantage the winner bracket amounted to for Stats was that he had to play a few less matches.

So yeah, I hope the distribution is looked at again in the future.


I talked about this with xiaose extensively on this issue, and he came up with the conclusion that they are going to keep this as it is. For the winning player he gets to rest more and prepare for easier opponents, thus getting potentially more money than the 2nd place finisher, for the 2nd place player he can win more money but also bear the risk of going out with only one life.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
August 02 2016 09:50 GMT
#32
On August 02 2016 18:43 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 18:20 Elentos wrote:
I still think the prize distribution format needs work. It makes no sense to me that the 2nd place player in the group stage can earn as much money as or even more than the 1st place player. And for Kung Fu Cup it's not just that.

In the last Kung Fu Cup, before the grand finals Stats had won 2888 $, he only lost 2 and no matches maps in the whole tournament up to that point. TY made 2584 $ before the grand finals. He lost 2 matches and 6 maps total. So basically if Stats lost 2 more maps he and TY would have made even money up until the finals, even though Stats went to the finals through the winner bracket and TY through the loser bracket. Meaning the only advantage the winner bracket amounted to for Stats was that he had to play a few less matches.

So yeah, I hope the distribution is looked at again in the future.


I talked about this with xiaose extensively on this issue, and he came up with the conclusion that they are going to keep this as it is. For the winning player he gets to rest more and prepare for easier opponents, thus getting potentially more money than the 2nd place finisher, for the 2nd place player he can win more money but also bear the risk of going out with only one life.

But you can't guarantee the opponents are actually "easier" just because they finished 2nd in their group.
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